Re: What you need to know about unlocked phones vs. locked phones - CNET

[Gerry Cook]

as a matter of fact in australia telstra and optus the two biggest telcos still 
do it.  vodafone have just stopped the practice,  i believe you should be able 
to switch carriers if you find a better deal rather than being locked into a 
two or three year contract and maybe just pay the phone off.  someone tell me 
if i’m wrong! but maybe i’ve missed something. 
cheers gerry have a nice day
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> On 18 Feb 2018, at 1:08 pm, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Locking phones is an antitrust practice, and should be illegal. In December, 
> Canada made it illegal to sell locked phones on a carrier. This is a giant 
> step forward for Wireless in Canada, and I love it!
> 
> Third-party providers sell unlock codes for 5 or $10 a piece, and so, locking 
> a phone is no deterrent at all to someone who can get $1,000 for scamming an 
> iPhone from Verizon.
> 
> Cell phone providers have gotten away with running roughshod over customers 
> for 40 years, and it's time they paid back what they owe. Not that I'm in 
> favor of stealing phones from carriers. I just don't see why the customer 
> should have to pay the cost of theft from a large corporation.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
> On February 17, 2018 8:49:21 PM "M. Taylor"  wrote:
> 
> Unlocked phones vs. locked phones: Why you should care
> In this edition of Ask Maggie, CNET's Marguerite Reardon breaks down what
> you need to know about the carrier practice of locking phones.
> By Marguerite Reardon, February 17, 2018 5:00 AM PST
> 
> FAQ
> 
> Should you get an unlocked phone?
> The US wireless market is more competitive than ever, which is great news
> for consumers who have lots of choices when it comes choosing a service
> provider.
> But one barrier still exists when trying to switch carriers: the locked
> smartphone.
> 
> The end of wireless contracts marked a watershed trend for consumers because
> it finally opened the door for them to more easily shop around for
> alternative wireless carriers. But the software locks that carriers put on
> phones restricting its use on other networks still prevent many consumers
> from having total freedom when it comes to choosing a provider.
> 
> Now Verizon, the only wireless carrier that sold its phones unlocked out of
> the box, is reversing course. The company said earlier this week it would
> begin locking the phones it sells to consumers for an undetermined period of
> time, which will prevent them from using a SIM card from another carrier.
> But Verizon promised it would eventually unlock the device after activation.
> The company hasn't said how long that period would be.
> 
> Verizon said it's doing this to deter criminals from stealing phones, which
> are often stolen en route to retail stores or from the stores themselves.
> Unlocked phones make attractive targets because they can be resold on the
> black market or used overseas with different carriers. That's particularly
> the case for iPhones, which are a top target for thieves because of their
> high resale value.
> 
> Because I get so many questions about the difference between locked versus
> unlocked phones and what it means to the average wireless customer, I've put
> together this FAQ for my Ask Maggie readers to summarize the basics.
> 
> What's the difference between a locked and unlocked phone?
> The difference is that a locked phone has a software code on it that
> prevents you from using it on another network. An unlocked phone either
> doesn't have the software lock on it or someone was able to get a code that
> unlocks the software. Once a device is unlocked, you can pop out the SIM
> card and put in a different SIM and get service.
> 
> What's the benefit of having an unlocked phone?
> The biggest benefit of having an unlocked phone is that if you want to
> switch wireless operators, you can easily do that. All you have to do is pop
> in a new SIM and sign up for service. There's no need to buy a new phone.
> This is great because it lets you shop around for the cheapest service
> instead of being stuck with a particular carrier because you don't want to
> buy a new phone.
> 
> This flexibility can also come in handy for people traveling overseas. It's
> usually less expensive to use a local wireless service while traveling
> abroad. And again, you simply pop out the SIM card in your phone and replace
> it with one from a local carrier. And voila! You will have a new local
> number and it will be cheaper to make calls in country and access the
> internet than if you used a US carrier's service that would require roaming
> on the foreign network.
> 
> Does GSM vs CDMA still matter?
> Yes, the voice networks of US wireless carriers still use two fundamentally
> different technologies GSM and CDMA. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, while AT
> and T-Mobile along with most of the rest of the world use GSM.
> 
> The good news is that phones are a 

wanting to sell my Mac laptop

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I got permission from Mark Taylor to make this posting.


I would like to sell my Mac. It's running Yosemite, and from what I 
understand it can not be upgraded.

I tried looking up the specs, and writing them down as I heard them. I 
do apologize if any of this information isn't correct. But if any of you 
have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask them.


when I looked up the information, it stated version 2 duo, 22 GZ, 2 
core, 4 MB cash.


My reason for wanting to sell it is that I don't use it. I got it about 
a year ago, if I am remembering correctly. I've only turned it on twice. 
It does start up pretty quickly, and I was able to figure out how to 
connect it to my wIFI.


It will come with just the charger. Also, it has a battery, but it 
doesn't hold a charge.


If anyone might be interested in purchasing this Mac, please contact me 
off-list with offers. I ask that you pay using Paypal, or the Cash App.

My email address is below.


icecreamlove...@outlook.com


Thank you, and I look forward to hearing from you.


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Re: What you need to know about unlocked phones vs. locked phones - CNET

[Erik Burggraaf]

Locking phones is an antitrust practice, and should be illegal. In 
December, Canada made it illegal to sell locked phones on a carrier. This 
is a giant step forward for Wireless in Canada, and I love it!


Third-party providers sell unlock codes for 5 or $10 a piece, and so, 
locking a phone is no deterrent at all to someone who can get $1,000 for 
scamming an iPhone from Verizon.


Cell phone providers have gotten away with running roughshod over customers 
for 40 years, and it's time they paid back what they owe. Not that I'm in 
favor of stealing phones from carriers. I just don't see why the customer 
should have to pay the cost of theft from a large corporation.


Best,

Erik


On February 17, 2018 8:49:21 PM "M. Taylor"  wrote:

Unlocked phones vs. locked phones: Why you should care
In this edition of Ask Maggie, CNET's Marguerite Reardon breaks down what
you need to know about the carrier practice of locking phones.
By Marguerite Reardon, February 17, 2018 5:00 AM PST

FAQ

Should you get an unlocked phone?
The US wireless market is more competitive than ever, which is great news
for consumers who have lots of choices when it comes choosing a service
provider.
But one barrier still exists when trying to switch carriers: the locked
smartphone.

The end of wireless contracts marked a watershed trend for consumers because
it finally opened the door for them to more easily shop around for
alternative wireless carriers. But the software locks that carriers put on
phones restricting its use on other networks still prevent many consumers
from having total freedom when it comes to choosing a provider.

Now Verizon, the only wireless carrier that sold its phones unlocked out of
the box, is reversing course. The company said earlier this week it would
begin locking the phones it sells to consumers for an undetermined period of
time, which will prevent them from using a SIM card from another carrier.
But Verizon promised it would eventually unlock the device after activation.
The company hasn't said how long that period would be.

Verizon said it's doing this to deter criminals from stealing phones, which
are often stolen en route to retail stores or from the stores themselves.
Unlocked phones make attractive targets because they can be resold on the
black market or used overseas with different carriers. That's particularly
the case for iPhones, which are a top target for thieves because of their
high resale value.

Because I get so many questions about the difference between locked versus
unlocked phones and what it means to the average wireless customer, I've put
together this FAQ for my Ask Maggie readers to summarize the basics.

What's the difference between a locked and unlocked phone?
The difference is that a locked phone has a software code on it that
prevents you from using it on another network. An unlocked phone either
doesn't have the software lock on it or someone was able to get a code that
unlocks the software. Once a device is unlocked, you can pop out the SIM
card and put in a different SIM and get service.

What's the benefit of having an unlocked phone?
The biggest benefit of having an unlocked phone is that if you want to
switch wireless operators, you can easily do that. All you have to do is pop
in a new SIM and sign up for service. There's no need to buy a new phone.
This is great because it lets you shop around for the cheapest service
instead of being stuck with a particular carrier because you don't want to
buy a new phone.

This flexibility can also come in handy for people traveling overseas. It's
usually less expensive to use a local wireless service while traveling
abroad. And again, you simply pop out the SIM card in your phone and replace
it with one from a local carrier. And voila! You will have a new local
number and it will be cheaper to make calls in country and access the
internet than if you used a US carrier's service that would require roaming
on the foreign network.

Does GSM vs CDMA still matter?
Yes, the voice networks of US wireless carriers still use two fundamentally
different technologies GSM and CDMA. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, while AT
and T-Mobile along with most of the rest of the world use GSM.

The good news is that phones are a bit more compatible and portable among
carriers than they were a few years ago. But phone makers, like Apple, still
tend to make multiple versions of their phones so you need to know which
model you're buying before you can know if you can take it to another
carrier.
For instance, Apple sells two versions of  the iPhone 7, 7 Plus, 8, 8 Plus
and X. Unlocked versions of these phones that aren't sold through a carrier
are compatible on all four US carriers. The iPhones sold through Verizon or
Sprint can also be used on both CDMA and GSM networks, which means they are
compatible with AT and T-Mobile. But iPhones sold through AT and
T-Mobile don't include modems for CDMA, so they can't be used for voice
service on 

What you need to know about unlocked phones vs. locked phones - CNET

[M. Taylor]

Unlocked phones vs. locked phones: Why you should care
In this edition of Ask Maggie, CNET's Marguerite Reardon breaks down what
you need to know about the carrier practice of locking phones.
By Marguerite Reardon, February 17, 2018 5:00 AM PST

FAQ 
 
Should you get an unlocked phone?
The US wireless market is more competitive than ever, which is great news
for consumers who have lots of choices when it comes choosing a service
provider. 
But one barrier still exists when trying to switch carriers: the locked
smartphone. 

The end of wireless contracts marked a watershed trend for consumers because
it finally opened the door for them to more easily shop around for
alternative wireless carriers. But the software locks that carriers put on
phones restricting its use on other networks still prevent many consumers
from having total freedom when it comes to choosing a provider. 
 
Now Verizon, the only wireless carrier that sold its phones unlocked out of
the box, is reversing course. The company said earlier this week it would
begin locking the phones it sells to consumers for an undetermined period of
time, which will prevent them from using a SIM card from another carrier.
But Verizon promised it would eventually unlock the device after activation.
The company hasn't said how long that period would be. 

Verizon said it's doing this to deter criminals from stealing phones, which
are often stolen en route to retail stores or from the stores themselves.
Unlocked phones make attractive targets because they can be resold on the
black market or used overseas with different carriers. That's particularly
the case for iPhones, which are a top target for thieves because of their
high resale value. 

Because I get so many questions about the difference between locked versus
unlocked phones and what it means to the average wireless customer, I've put
together this FAQ for my Ask Maggie readers to summarize the basics.

What's the difference between a locked and unlocked phone? 
The difference is that a locked phone has a software code on it that
prevents you from using it on another network. An unlocked phone either
doesn't have the software lock on it or someone was able to get a code that
unlocks the software. Once a device is unlocked, you can pop out the SIM
card and put in a different SIM and get service. 

What's the benefit of having an unlocked phone?
The biggest benefit of having an unlocked phone is that if you want to
switch wireless operators, you can easily do that. All you have to do is pop
in a new SIM and sign up for service. There's no need to buy a new phone.
This is great because it lets you shop around for the cheapest service
instead of being stuck with a particular carrier because you don't want to
buy a new phone. 

This flexibility can also come in handy for people traveling overseas. It's
usually less expensive to use a local wireless service while traveling
abroad. And again, you simply pop out the SIM card in your phone and replace
it with one from a local carrier. And voila! You will have a new local
number and it will be cheaper to make calls in country and access the
internet than if you used a US carrier's service that would require roaming
on the foreign network. 

Does GSM vs CDMA still matter?
Yes, the voice networks of US wireless carriers still use two fundamentally
different technologies GSM and CDMA. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, while AT
and T-Mobile along with most of the rest of the world use GSM.  

The good news is that phones are a bit more compatible and portable among
carriers than they were a few years ago. But phone makers, like Apple, still
tend to make multiple versions of their phones so you need to know which
model you're buying before you can know if you can take it to another
carrier. 
For instance, Apple sells two versions of  the iPhone 7, 7 Plus, 8, 8 Plus
and X. Unlocked versions of these phones that aren't sold through a carrier
are compatible on all four US carriers. The iPhones sold through Verizon or
Sprint can also be used on both CDMA and GSM networks, which means they are
compatible with AT and T-Mobile. But iPhones sold through AT and
T-Mobile don't include modems for CDMA, so they can't be used for voice
service on Verizon or Sprint. 

The bottom line is that you should check before you buy if you think there's
a chance you'll be switching carriers. 

How do I get my phone unlocked?
Depending on how you bought your phone, it may already be unlocked. For
example, if you didn't buy your phone through a US carrier or you purchased
it directly from Apple or on Amazon and either company indicated it was
unlocked, you don't have to do anything. 

Prior to the change, Verizon phones came unlocked out of the box.
Phones bought through AT, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon (starting later
this year) will have locks on them. And you'll need to find out what
criteria needs to be satisfied before you can ask for a code to unlock it. 

So what are the criteria for 

Re: Howto save web page to desktop?

[E.T.]

   Add these two lines to a text file. Edit the URL.

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://www.apple.com

   Press enter. End the filename with .url.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/17/2018 11:45 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

Hello,
I’m trying to save a link to a web page to my desktop.  I think I’ve done this 
in the past but can’t remember how!

TIA
Chris



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Copying some text from an iBook does not seem to be possible

[Mary Otten]

I have tried to use voice over text selection process to enable me to copy 
short segments of text from iBooks. But text selection does not show up in the 
road or when I have an iBook open. This is really annoying. I know they don’t 
want people copying the whole book. But really? Not even a quote? This is 
ridiculous. I hope I am missing something.
Mary


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Re: Downloading a PDF from the Internet

[Tim Kilburn]

Or try going under the History menu. 


 Later... 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Or CMD + [.
> 
> Gena
> 
> “Blindness is not a handicap, it is something I have always lived with. The 
> real handicap is the prejudices people have about blindness.”
> 
> Michael Hinson 2011
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2018, at 19:49, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello there
>> 
>> Try using command left arrow and see if that doesn’t take you back otherwise 
>> it will be command W that might take you to the last webpage might’ve opened 
>> a window
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:02, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> I need to download some manuals using safari, when I press VO-Space on
>>> a pdf, it opens it, and I press export to PDF, to get it on my
>>> computer, but, don't kno whow I can go out from this manual and go
>>> back to my web page that I was browsing.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> Faculty ofmusical education
>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>>> Harmony Recording Studio
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Re: VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie?

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Some use Imovie to do this.  I, however, cannot install Imovie on my Mac 
because it’s too old.  So, I use Screenflow.  Let me clarify.  The latest 
version of Imovie will not install on my mid 2009 Mac book pro because it’s too 
old.


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Feb 17, 2018, at 3:10 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> Subject says it all!
> Whats a  VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie 
> I have a screen cast done in quicktime that I half to edit and then export it 
> as a quicktime movie, and then  get it to a software company to demonstrate 
> what needs fixed for VoiceOver accessibility.
> Any app suggestions that are easy to use?
> Thanks
> Chuck
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Re: HomePod question

[Terje Strømberg]

They are not finished with airplay 2 yet. Need airplay 2 to play stereo.

Take care



17. feb. 2018 kl. 01:42 skrev Tim Kilburn :

Simon,

It's a little more complicated than that.  I can have two speakers, each 
playing the same channel, thus it is not stereo sound.  In true stereo sound, 
the left and right speakers play different audio and are synchronized to make 
things sound like they come out of one, the other or both.

Later...
]
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 16, 2018, at 14:17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

I thought stereo sound would be a hardware thing rather  than a software thing.

2 speakers give you stereo 

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On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 2:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HomePod question

True stereo sound is coming in a software update soon.

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> If memory serves, something I read said that the HomePod can't do stereo 
> sound the way the Sonos speakers can.  Does anyone know if that is a hardware 
> or software limitation?  I was thinking about picking up a HomePod this 
> weekend, but eventually having the ability to have stereo sound would be 
> important to me, so if it's a hardware issue, I'd probably be better off 
> waiting.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Downloading a PDF from the Internet

[Georgina Joyce]

Or CMD + [.

Gena

“Blindness is not a handicap, it is something I have always lived with. The 
real handicap is the prejudices people have about blindness.”

Michael Hinson 2011

> On 17 Feb 2018, at 19:49, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> Hello there
> 
> Try using command left arrow and see if that doesn’t take you back otherwise 
> it will be command W that might take you to the last webpage might’ve opened 
> a window
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:02, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I need to download some manuals using safari, when I press VO-Space on
>> a pdf, it opens it, and I press export to PDF, to get it on my
>> computer, but, don't kno whow I can go out from this manual and go
>> back to my web page that I was browsing.
>> Thanks
>> 
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VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi List,
Subject says it all!
Whats a  VoiceOver friendly application for editing a QuickTime movie 
I have a screen cast done in quicktime that I half to edit and then export it 
as a quicktime movie, and then  get it to a software company to demonstrate 
what needs fixed for VoiceOver accessibility.
Any app suggestions that are easy to use?
Thanks
Chuck

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RE: resetting Mac to factory settings

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah,

Turn it off completely and then hold down the command key and letter R keys at 
the same time.

 While holding those down press the power on key, and keep holding command and 
r for approx. 30 seconds.

This puts you in the recovery console 

You can start up voiceover using command f5 
Then find the disk utility option,
 Open disk utilities,
Find the volume name for your drive, 
Not the physical drive name,
 Normally the volume name is something like Macintosh HD 
And is the second level in the disk listings.

Then on the volume use eraise to wipe it compleyely,
 
Don't eraise anything other than that one volume 

 Then once eraised close disk utilities and then use the install mac os  
utility to install the os from sctrach 

 When the new installation gets to the request for nation or language stop and 
turn the machine off as it's ready to be reinstalled as the new owner requires.

Hoe that helps.


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On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
Sent: Sunday, 18 February 2018 3:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: resetting Mac to factory settings

Hello everyone,


I am wanting to sell my Macbook.


Could someone please tell me how to reset it back to factory settings, so it's 
like brand new?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Major Numbers Issue Question

[John JD Denning]

The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is make sure you don’t 
have any filters active. If you’re doing any filtering you can’t type in there. 
Turn off the filtering and you should be able to.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2018, at 14:29, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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> Hey All,
> 
> Not sure if this is device specific. I am running the latest build of High 
> Sierra and Numbers. And Numbers will not allow me to type anything in the 
> Column header rows. I am talking about the first row going down vertically. 
> Anyone else having this issue? Thanks, 
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Re: Major Numbers Issue Question

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all, Just spoke to Apple Accessibility and we figured it out together 
definitely messed up, as if you want to type in the A rows you need to VO space 
bar then type and do not stop interacting to get out of the cell which you do 
have to d in the rest of the spread sheet. Very confusing but we got it 
working. 

> On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> Not sure if this is device specific. I am running the latest build of High 
> Sierra and Numbers. And Numbers will not allow me to type anything in the 
> Column header rows. I am talking about the first row going down vertically. 
> Anyone else having this issue? Thanks, 
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Re: Downloading a PDF from the Internet

[Scott Berry]

Hello there

Try using command left arrow and see if that doesn’t take you back otherwise it 
will be command W that might take you to the last webpage might’ve opened a 
window

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:02, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I need to download some manuals using safari, when I press VO-Space on
> a pdf, it opens it, and I press export to PDF, to get it on my
> computer, but, don't kno whow I can go out from this manual and go
> back to my web page that I was browsing.
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Howto save web page to desktop?

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
I’m trying to save a link to a web page to my desktop.  I think I’ve done this 
in the past but can’t remember how!

TIA
Chris

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Major Numbers Issue Question

[Brian Fischler]

Hey All,

Not sure if this is device specific. I am running the latest build of High 
Sierra and Numbers. And Numbers will not allow me to type anything in the 
Column header rows. I am talking about the first row going down vertically. 
Anyone else having this issue? Thanks, 

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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Harry Bell]

Today I repeatedly asked Siri on my HomePod to play the latest episode of the 
Apple Insider podcast - and each time she played a programme called Apple 
Cider! I wonder whether it was her sense of humour...
Harry

> On 17 Feb 2018, at 18:19, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I've been wondering that, too, Tim.  I can't imagine what it would be, but 
> I've never had problems with Siri before.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It doesn't seem logical, as they're all running the same iOS, but this makes 
>> me wonder if it is something to do with the iPhone 10.  My 8 seems to handle 
>> Siri stuff just fine, except when it's 30 below outside and she just doesn't 
>> want to behave at all :).
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 06:52, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not tried this, Shawn.  But I will do it this morning.  For me, 
>> Siri's gotten to the point where it's more work to try and use her than it's 
>> worth.  I'll report back to the list if toggling Siri and dictation off and 
>> on again helps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:38 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lol Simon. That was good. In all seriousness though, has anyone tried 
>>> turning off and on both Siri and dictation? I hear that supposedly any 
>>> issue you've had with those two things should clear up after toggling them 
>>> on and off.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 That's it,
 Siri is sexest!
 
 
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 4:50 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?
 
 Ha!  You sound like my husband. He swears that Siri hates him.
 
 This is interesting. I always got very good results from Siri until 
 switching to the iPhone X. Given that this phone supposedly has better 
 hardware and a faster processor, it makes no sense that dictation results 
 would worsen. But that has certainly been my experience.
 Eileen, I’m somewhat relieved to hear that you are having a similar 
 experience. At least that makes it sound like it’s the phone rather than 
 something that I am doing.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 9:41 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I find issues with it sometimes. I swear siri hates my voice because, 
> I keep having to repeat messages at times.
> 
>> On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> There are certainly dictation mistakes. And every once in a while 
>> there is a real hash. But for the most part, it’s decent. I’m not using 
>> an iPhone X.
>> I’m using 7+. I don’t do it on my iPad Mini too, because it is 
>> incredibly slow.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the 
>>> recognition is absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time 
>>> correcting dictation than I ever used to.  Just wondering if anyone 
>>> else--either using a X or not--has noticed the same thing?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Downloading a PDF from the Internet

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

I need to download some manuals using safari, when I press VO-Space on
a pdf, it opens it, and I press export to PDF, to get it on my
computer, but, don't kno whow I can go out from this manual and go
back to my web page that I was browsing.
Thanks


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Re: braille edge is slow

[Dionipher Herrera]

nope on my iphone i works well, but on my mac seems to have a log. can somebody 
direct me how to install the usb drive to my mac maybe this would work.
and can somebody give me a tutorial how to use the braile edge. 
I haven’t seen a tutorial either on applevis. thanks


> Il giorno 15 feb 2018, alle ore 21:30, Pablo Sandoval 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> Hi, are you using it in combination with either IOS or MacOS?
> There is a definite lag when using it as a terminal with IOS. 
> This is IOS though, not the Edge.
> Are you experiencing lag when typing on the notepad?
> 
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello guys, can somebody explain me how to type faster on the braille edge, 
>> it seems to recognize the letters four seconds later after pressing the 
>> buttons. can i use the cable too? because it seems i won’t connect with the 
>> cable. i just bought it 2 days ago. thanks i advance
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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Donna Goodin]

I've been wondering that, too, Tim.  I can't imagine what it would be, but I've 
never had problems with Siri before.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It doesn't seem logical, as they're all running the same iOS, but this makes 
> me wonder if it is something to do with the iPhone 10.  My 8 seems to handle 
> Siri stuff just fine, except when it's 30 below outside and she just doesn't 
> want to behave at all :).
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 06:52, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I have not tried this, Shawn.  But I will do it this morning.  For me, Siri's 
> gotten to the point where it's more work to try and use her than it's worth.  
> I'll report back to the list if toggling Siri and dictation off and on again 
> helps.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:38 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> Lol Simon. That was good. In all seriousness though, has anyone tried 
>> turning off and on both Siri and dictation? I hear that supposedly any issue 
>> you've had with those two things should clear up after toggling them on and 
>> off.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
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>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's it,
>>> Siri is sexest!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 4:50 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?
>>> 
>>> Ha!  You sound like my husband. He swears that Siri hates him.
>>> 
>>> This is interesting. I always got very good results from Siri until 
>>> switching to the iPhone X. Given that this phone supposedly has better 
>>> hardware and a faster processor, it makes no sense that dictation results 
>>> would worsen. But that has certainly been my experience.
>>> Eileen, I’m somewhat relieved to hear that you are having a similar 
>>> experience. At least that makes it sound like it’s the phone rather than 
>>> something that I am doing.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2018, at 9:41 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
 
 I find issues with it sometimes. I swear siri hates my voice because, 
 I keep having to repeat messages at times.
 
> On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
> There are certainly dictation mistakes. And every once in a while 
> there is a real hash. But for the most part, it’s decent. I’m not using 
> an iPhone X.
> I’m using 7+. I don’t do it on my iPad Mini too, because it is 
> incredibly slow.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the 
>> recognition is absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time 
>> correcting dictation than I ever used to.  Just wondering if anyone 
>> else--either using a X or not--has noticed the same thing?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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RE: UEB and other commands using the Focus new Gen on the I phone.

[M. Taylor]

Hello David,

I believe Kawal is saying that, unlike on the previous generations of Focus 
Braille displays, the standard keyboard Braille entry commands, such as dot-4, 
1, for the @ symbol, are not working on her fifth generation Focus 40 Blue.  

It will be interesting to see if any other Focus Fifth Generation user is 
experiencing the same problem.

Mark

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of David Chittenden
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: UEB and other commands using the Focus new Gen on the I phone.

In UEB, for at sign, it is dot 4 followed by dot 1.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Feb 2018, at 09:07, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Hello All. 
> 
> I have been using my new generation Focus 40 for just over a week now.
> 
> I have a few questions to ask regarding UEB as I normally write in UEB these 
> days as I can't remember the Standard English Braille Code although that is 
> what I grew up with!
> 
> Anyway, I have noticed that some of the operations have changed with this new 
> Focus, as before I could do Chord e for new line. Now this doesn't seem to 
> work and instead I am pressing dot 8 for a new line.
> 
> However, this is not the case when you want to send a message, as new line 
> sends the message. So how can I do new line which doesn't send the message?
> 
> Also if I want to put the at sign in, how would one do this,  as I use to do 
> dot four a for the at sign but that is not the case and so I am just pressing 
> dot 4. Each time I press dots 2 5 6 it says DD rather than the full stop. 
> 
> i hope that you David will reply although I am happy for anyone to reply to 
> me.
> 
> thank you.
> 
> Kawal.  
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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It doesn't seem logical, as they're all running the same iOS, but this makes me 
wonder if it is something to do with the iPhone 10.  My 8 seems to handle Siri 
stuff just fine, except when it's 30 below outside and she just doesn't want to 
behave at all :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 17, 2018, at 06:52, Donna Goodin  wrote:

I have not tried this, Shawn.  But I will do it this morning.  For me, Siri's 
gotten to the point where it's more work to try and use her than it's worth.  
I'll report back to the list if toggling Siri and dictation off and on again 
helps.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:38 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Lol Simon. That was good. In all seriousness though, has anyone tried turning 
> off and on both Siri and dictation? I hear that supposedly any issue you've 
> had with those two things should clear up after toggling them on and off.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
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> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> That's it,
>> Siri is sexest!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 4:50 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?
>> 
>> Ha!  You sound like my husband. He swears that Siri hates him.
>> 
>> This is interesting. I always got very good results from Siri until 
>> switching to the iPhone X. Given that this phone supposedly has better 
>> hardware and a faster processor, it makes no sense that dictation results 
>> would worsen. But that has certainly been my experience.
>> Eileen, I’m somewhat relieved to hear that you are having a similar 
>> experience. At least that makes it sound like it’s the phone rather than 
>> something that I am doing.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 9:41 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find issues with it sometimes. I swear siri hates my voice because, 
>>> I keep having to repeat messages at times.
>>> 
 On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
 There are certainly dictation mistakes. And every once in a while 
 there is a real hash. But for the most part, it’s decent. I’m not using an 
 iPhone X.
 I’m using 7+. I don’t do it on my iPad Mini too, because it is 
 incredibly slow.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the 
> recognition is absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time 
> correcting dictation than I ever used to.  Just wondering if anyone 
> else--either using a X or not--has noticed the same thing?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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RE: Location of data on a hard drive

[dan d.]

The fusion drive works by smashing atoms of hydrogen into each other to release 
energy.

Because of this the data is entirely lost due to radiition.

A trick answer.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> And then how does the fusion drive work then?
>
>  Is the data closer to the middle or the edge of a fusion drive?
>
> Trick question by the way.
>
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>
> I think it is the oppisite.  THe read/wright speed at the rim is fastest.  It 
> has to be faster at the rim to cover for example 90 degrees of rotation then 
> a point at the center for the same 90 degrees.
>
> My thinking was that if there are some things for which I want fastestt 
> read/write speeds it would be from the 2nd partition if it is created closer 
> to the edge of a platter, assuming a single one in a hard drive.
>
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2018, Tim Kilburn wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't have specs to confirm, but my understanding is that the OS is 
> > stored the inner most and data beyond that.  This is to give the drive the 
> > quickest access to the system files when needed.  Since the first partition 
> > contains your MacOS, then this behaviour should be maintained.
> >
> > Later...
> >
> > Tim Kilburn
> > Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 20:23, dan d.  wrote:
> >
> > Hello listers,
> >
> >
> > I have a 1t mac hardrive which I split into two partitions.
> >
> > With the first partition containing the os and other data is the data 
> > stored nearer the center or the edge of a platter?.
> >
> > How is this os location affected if there are multiple platters?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
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toggling Siri and Dictation off and on?

[Donna Goodin]

Where does one do this?  I'm looking in settings, but not finding it.  Running 
latest version of IOS.
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Re: resetting Mac to factory settings

[Oriol Gómez]

Hi!
You can use the recovery tool (command r on startup) or if your mac is
old, just use a USB installer, then reinstall it and don't configure
it with any apple id.

hth

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> Could someone please tell me how to reset it back to factory settings,
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resetting Mac to factory settings

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I am wanting to sell my Macbook.


Could someone please tell me how to reset it back to factory settings, 
so it's like brand new?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Donna Goodin]

Yep.  Same here, Erik.  I'm hoping Shawn's suggestion works.
Cheers,
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> On Feb 16, 2018, at 11:47 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> you aren't the only one. even simple sentences have been bolloxed badly. I 
> have seen changes in pronouns, had entire words appear that I didn't speak 
> and even had one sentence get badly mangled.
> It's gotten so that I have to use a bluetooth keyboard to compose messages, 
> Facebook posts and even tweets.
> 
> -eric
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 5:25 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the recognition 
>> is absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time correcting dictation than I 
>> ever used to.  Just wondering if anyone else--either using a X or not--has 
>> noticed the same thing?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Okay, I have to Admit It, HomePod Is The Best

[Donna Goodin]

Ha!  thanks, Mark!  You gave me great amo to send to my husband.  He's being a 
cheap skate, and doesn't want to spend the money.  And our current speakers are 
ones he built when he was in high school.  They really do have an amazing 
sound, but they're great big behemoths, standing about five feet high and a 
couple feet deep.  I've forwarded him your review of the HomePod.
Cheers,
Donna.
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:21 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> I promise I won't flood the list with these kinds of posts but I have to
> admit that I found myself doing something this evening that I haven't done
> in over 10 years.  I actually sat in my living room, with a hardcopy Braille
> novel and enjoyed listening to my music on my HomePod, in front of my
> fireplace.  The sound was so pleasant that I can actually see myself doing
> this on a regular basis.  
> 
> During the past 10 years I've purchased over 10 Bluetooth speakers and none
> have compelled me to just sit and listen and read.  In fact, I ended up
> giving all of them away but not this time.  
> 
> Regardless of the lack of AI skills, the sound alone is definitely worth the
> 400+ dollars I paid for the device.  
> 
> Okay, no more unsolicited testimonials' from me.   
> 
> My only regret is that I cannot have all of you, my brothers and sisters,
> here, so we can experience these beautiful moments, together.
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> Sincerely,
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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Donna Goodin]

I have not tried this, Shawn.  But I will do it this morning.  For me, Siri's 
gotten to the point where it's more work to try and use her than it's worth.  
I'll report back to the list if toggling Siri and dictation off and on again 
helps.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:38 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
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> Lol Simon. That was good. In all seriousness though, has anyone tried turning 
> off and on both Siri and dictation? I hear that supposedly any issue you've 
> had with those two things should clear up after toggling them on and off.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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>> That's it,
>> Siri is sexest!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2018 4:50 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?
>> 
>> Ha!  You sound like my husband. He swears that Siri hates him.
>> 
>> This is interesting. I always got very good results from Siri until 
>> switching to the iPhone X. Given that this phone supposedly has better 
>> hardware and a faster processor, it makes no sense that dictation results 
>> would worsen. But that has certainly been my experience.
>> Eileen, I’m somewhat relieved to hear that you are having a similar 
>> experience. At least that makes it sound like it’s the phone rather than 
>> something that I am doing.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 9:41 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find issues with it sometimes. I swear siri hates my voice because, 
>>> I keep having to repeat messages at times.
>>> 
 On 2/16/18, Mary Otten  wrote:
 There are certainly dictation mistakes. And every once in a while 
 there is a real hash. But for the most part, it’s decent. I’m not using an 
 iPhone X.
 I’m using 7+. I don’t do it on my iPad Mini too, because it is 
 incredibly slow.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the 
> recognition is absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time 
> correcting dictation than I ever used to.  Just wondering if anyone 
> else--either using a X or not--has noticed the same thing?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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