RE: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[Simon Fogarty]

Tried that but he hung up.

 Had one trying to sell me travel and I kept putting the phone down to go cook 
dinner and answr the door,
 Then told him thanks for the waiting as it gave us more time to track his call 
and Interpol should be with him soon,
 The guy was off the phone in seconds.

I love being smarter than them.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 4:22 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

Simon,
I think you need to find other avenues for recreation. (smiles) But if you 
insist, see how long you can keep one of those scammers on the line and tell 
him help is on the way. You know, Interpol or Scotland Yard or MI5. See if he 
buys it.

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On 4/2/2018 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
> 
>   We got a lot of this stuff last year at work,
> 
> The record of keeping a spam caller on the phone was 15minutes by one of my 
> colleagues.
> 
> It's great when they call an it service desk who can play them for everthing 
> they are asking.
> 
> I confused one caller when he aske if I could see the ctrl key in the 
> bottom left of my keyboard,
> 
> I said no,
> 
>   And when asked what key could I see I said nothing, Next time I'm 
> telling him what's on the braille keyboard not than I'm a braille user.
> They're so dum it's not funny.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 6:00 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple
> 
>  Its pointless to report scam calla/emails. I never answer calls from 
> those not in my contacts. If the cal is legitimate, the caller will leave 
> voicemail. Amusing to note that I have only received 2 voicemails from 
> scammers in the last 5 years.
> 
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 4/2/2018 10:18 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> Attention all apple product users..
>>
>> I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from 
>> Apple Care notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a 
>> little "phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation 
>> with a customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as 
>> apple will not, under all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about 
>> such things. They will attempt to notify by email only or they will require 
>> you reset your password credentials via their apple ID website. If you get 
>> one of these calls, report it to reportph...@apple.com and include any 
>> information you can get (such as caller ID info, time of call, etc).
>>
>> It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
>> caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
>> active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).
>>
>> anyway, report these calls as you get them.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Eric Oyen
>>
> 
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RE: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[Simon Fogarty]

I have not yet heard that one but I'm going to remember it,
 I'll use the Fn key, what's it for?
 Is it not for Fun!

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 2:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

Have  you ever heard the one where the customer keeps asking the scammer what 
the FN key is for, and the phone guy keeps telling her that key is for 
programmers, just ignore it.


On 4/2/2018 10:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
>
>   We got a lot of this stuff last year at work,
>
> The record of keeping a spam caller on the phone was 15minutes by one of my 
> colleagues.
>
> It's great when they call an it service desk who can play them for everthing 
> they are asking.
>
> I confused one caller when he aske if I could see the ctrl key in the 
> bottom left of my keyboard,
>
> I said no,
>
>   And when asked what key could I see I said nothing, Next time I'm 
> telling him what's on the braille keyboard not than I'm a braille user.
> They're so dum it's not funny.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 6:00 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple
>
>  Its pointless to report scam calla/emails. I never answer calls from 
> those not in my contacts. If the cal is legitimate, the caller will leave 
> voicemail. Amusing to note that I have only received 2 voicemails from 
> scammers in the last 5 years.
>
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
>
> On 4/2/2018 10:18 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> Attention all apple product users..
>>
>> I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from 
>> Apple Care notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a 
>> little "phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation 
>> with a customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as 
>> apple will not, under all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about 
>> such things. They will attempt to notify by email only or they will require 
>> you reset your password credentials via their apple ID website. If you get 
>> one of these calls, report it to reportph...@apple.com and include any 
>> information you can get (such as caller ID info, time of call, etc).
>>
>> It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
>> caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
>> active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).
>>
>> anyway, report these calls as you get them.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Eric Oyen
>>
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Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[E.T.]

Simon,
   I think you need to find other avenues for recreation. (smiles) But 
if you insist, see how long you can keep one of those scammers on the 
line and tell him help is on the way. You know, Interpol or Scotland 
Yard or MI5. See if he buys it.


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On 4/2/2018 7:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

  We got a lot of this stuff last year at work,

The record of keeping a spam caller on the phone was 15minutes by one of my 
colleagues.

It's great when they call an it service desk who can play them for everthing 
they are asking.

I confused one caller when he aske if I could see the ctrl key in the bottom 
left of my keyboard,

I said no,

  And when asked what key could I see I said nothing,
Next time I'm telling him what's on the braille keyboard not than I'm a braille 
user.
They're so dum it's not funny.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 6:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

 Its pointless to report scam calla/emails. I never answer calls from those 
not in my contacts. If the cal is legitimate, the caller will leave voicemail. 
Amusing to note that I have only received 2 voicemails from scammers in the 
last 5 years.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/2/2018 10:18 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

Attention all apple product users..

I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from Apple Care 
notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a little 
"phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation with a 
customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple will not, under 
all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such things. They will attempt to 
notify by email only or they will require you reset your password credentials via their 
apple ID website. If you get one of these calls, report it to reportph...@apple.com and 
include any information you can get (such as caller ID info, time of call, etc).

It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).

anyway, report these calls as you get them.

thanks,

Eric Oyen



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Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[Steve Matzura]

Have  you ever heard the one where the customer keeps asking the scammer 
what the FN key is for, and the phone guy keeps telling her that key is 
for programmers, just ignore it.



On 4/2/2018 10:35 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

  We got a lot of this stuff last year at work,

The record of keeping a spam caller on the phone was 15minutes by one of my 
colleagues.

It's great when they call an it service desk who can play them for everthing 
they are asking.

I confused one caller when he aske if I could see the ctrl key in the bottom 
left of my keyboard,

I said no,

  And when asked what key could I see I said nothing,
Next time I'm telling him what's on the braille keyboard not than I'm a braille 
user.
They're so dum it's not funny.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 6:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

 Its pointless to report scam calla/emails. I never answer calls from those 
not in my contacts. If the cal is legitimate, the caller will leave voicemail. 
Amusing to note that I have only received 2 voicemails from scammers in the 
last 5 years.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/2/2018 10:18 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

Attention all apple product users..

I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from Apple Care 
notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a little 
"phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation with a 
customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple will not, under 
all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such things. They will attempt to 
notify by email only or they will require you reset your password credentials via their 
apple ID website. If you get one of these calls, report it to reportph...@apple.com and 
include any information you can get (such as caller ID info, time of call, etc).

It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).

anyway, report these calls as you get them.

thanks,

Eric Oyen


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RE: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

 We got a lot of this stuff last year at work,

The record of keeping a spam caller on the phone was 15minutes by one of my 
colleagues.

It's great when they call an it service desk who can play them for everthing 
they are asking.

I confused one caller when he aske if I could see the ctrl key in the bottom 
left of my keyboard,

I said no,

 And when asked what key could I see I said nothing,
Next time I'm telling him what's on the braille keyboard not than I'm a braille 
user.
They're so dum it's not funny.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 6:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

Its pointless to report scam calla/emails. I never answer calls from those 
not in my contacts. If the cal is legitimate, the caller will leave voicemail. 
Amusing to note that I have only received 2 voicemails from scammers in the 
last 5 years.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/2/2018 10:18 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> Attention all apple product users..
> 
> I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from 
> Apple Care notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a 
> little "phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation 
> with a customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple 
> will not, under all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such 
> things. They will attempt to notify by email only or they will require you 
> reset your password credentials via their apple ID website. If you get one of 
> these calls, report it to reportph...@apple.com and include any information 
> you can get (such as caller ID info, time of call, etc).
> 
> It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
> caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
> active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).
> 
> anyway, report these calls as you get them.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Eric Oyen
> 

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Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[E.T.]

   I saw a similar story on a news channel. Interesting.

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On 4/2/2018 12:12 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

There was an interesting two segment story on Reply All on just this scheme. 
The reply all team went to India and hunted down a person that was running a 
call center based on this scheme.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

On Apr 2, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

Attention all apple product users..

I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from Apple Care 
notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a little 
"phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation with a 
customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple will not, under 
all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such things. They will attempt to 
notify by email only or they will require you reset your password credentials via their 
apple ID website. If you get one of these calls, report it to reportph...@apple.com and 
include any information you can get (such as caller ID info, time of call, etc).

It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).

anyway, report these calls as you get them.

thanks,

Eric Oyen

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Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[E.T.]

   99% of the phone numbers are used once. Its easier and cheaper to 
take advantage of the Favorites feature in the phone app. And when 
things get hot and heavy during election campaigns, the mute switch is 
handy. The strategies that scammers use are constantly evolving. When/if 
the powes that be get their heads of that place where there is no 
sunshine, we will see change.


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On 4/2/2018 12:05 PM, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
A week or two ago, I purchased a device from QVC, called “CPR.” As soon 
as I got it I hooked it up to my phone and it is great!! The purpose of 
it is to block out and prevent all of the unsolicited calls and scammers 
from calling you. The unit comes with a list of 5,000 phone numbers that 
are known to be nuisance calls. And if when I answer the phone and find 
its one that wasn’t on the list of 5,000, there is a large button to 
press and that caller’s number gets added to the list of calls you don’t 
want getting through to be a bother.

I think it is a fantastic product and well worth the $50 price.
Eileen
*From:* Eric Oyen
*Sent:* Monday, April 2, 2018 1:18 PM
*To:* [MacVisionaries]
*Subject:* possible scam purporting to be from Apple
Attention all apple product users..

I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from 
Apple Care notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding 
this a little "phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this 
situation with a customer support rep. He reports that this is a 
phishing scam as apple will not, under all but the most dire of 
circumstances, call you about such things. They will attempt to notify 
by email only or they will require you reset your password credentials 
via their apple ID website. If you get one of these calls, report it to 
reportph...@apple.com and include any information you can get (such as 
caller ID info, time of call, etc).


It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line 
and caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a 
list of active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local 
bank, etc.).


anyway, report these calls as you get them.

thanks,

Eric Oyen

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Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[Jonathan Cohn]

There was an interesting two segment story on Reply All on just this scheme. 
The reply all team went to India and hunted down a person that was running a 
call center based on this scheme.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn
> On Apr 2, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> Attention all apple product users..
> 
> I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from 
> Apple Care notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a 
> little "phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation 
> with a customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple 
> will not, under all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such 
> things. They will attempt to notify by email only or they will require you 
> reset your password credentials via their apple ID website. If you get one of 
> these calls, report it to reportph...@apple.com and include any information 
> you can get (such as caller ID info, time of call, etc). 
> 
> It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
> caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
> active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).
> 
> anyway, report these calls as you get them. 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Eric Oyen
> 
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Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[Eileen Scrivani]

A week or two ago, I purchased a device from QVC, called “CPR.” As soon as I 
got it I hooked it up to my phone and it is great!! The purpose of it is to 
block out and prevent all of the unsolicited calls and scammers from calling 
you. The unit comes with a list of 5,000 phone numbers that are known to be 
nuisance calls. And if when I answer the phone and find its one that wasn’t on 
the list of 5,000, there is a large button to press and that caller’s number 
gets added to the list of calls you don’t want getting through to be a bother. 

I think it is a fantastic product and well worth the $50 price.

Eileen


From: Eric Oyen 
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:18 PM
To: [MacVisionaries] 
Subject: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

Attention all apple product users..

I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from Apple 
Care notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a little 
"phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation with a 
customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple will 
not, under all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such things. 
They will attempt to notify by email only or they will require you reset your 
password credentials via their apple ID website. If you get one of these calls, 
report it to reportph...@apple.com and include any information you can get 
(such as caller ID info, time of call, etc). 

It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).

anyway, report these calls as you get them. 

thanks,

Eric Oyen

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Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[E.T.]

   Its pointless to report scam calla/emails. I never answer calls from 
those not in my contacts. If the cal is legitimate, the caller will 
leave voicemail. Amusing to note that I have only received 2 voicemails 
from scammers in the last 5 years.


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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/2/2018 10:18 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

Attention all apple product users..

I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from Apple Care 
notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a little 
"phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation with a 
customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple will not, under 
all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such things. They will attempt to 
notify by email only or they will require you reset your password credentials via their 
apple ID website. If you get one of these calls, report it to reportph...@apple.com and 
include any information you can get (such as caller ID info, time of call, etc).

It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).

anyway, report these calls as you get them.

thanks,

Eric Oyen



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possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[Eric Oyen]

Attention all apple product users..

I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from Apple 
Care notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a little 
"phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation with a 
customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple will 
not, under all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such things. 
They will attempt to notify by email only or they will require you reset your 
password credentials via their apple ID website. If you get one of these calls, 
report it to reportph...@apple.com and include any information you can get 
(such as caller ID info, time of call, etc). 

It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).

anyway, report these calls as you get them. 

thanks,

Eric Oyen

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RE: problems navigating in mail and the menu bar

[Jennifer Parry]

Hi Alex

Thanks for this suggestion. This has solved my issue and things are now back to 
normal.

 

Sincerely

Jennifer Parry

 

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On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 1:26 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: problems navigating in mail and the menu bar

 

It really sounds like Quick Nav has been enabled. Try pressing the left and 
right arrows at the same time. If VoiceOver says, "Quick Nav off", you should 
be back to normal. If it says, "Quick Nav on", press the two keys again to turn 
it back off and let us know that this wasn't the issue.


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On Mar 30, 2018, at 22:53, Jennifer Parry mailto:music...@bigpond.net.au> > wrote:

 

Hello all

After installing yesterday’s updates, I’m encountering a couple of strange 
issues.

In mail, once I have navigated in to the inbox I need and interacted with it, I 
find that I cannot up or down arrow through the list of emails. The Focus keeps 
jumping in to a search box. 

when I am on the  desktop an press voiceover M to go in the the apple menu to 
shut down, I can get as far as the listing for apple, but can not down or up 
arrow to get to the shut down option.

Is anyone else having these issues or is there a setting I need to look for.

I am using a macbook pro with touch bar and voiceover.

 

Sincerely

Jennifer Parry

 

 

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