Re: Changing VoiceOver Voice

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I just looked at Siri in settings. I don't know how much interplay 
there is here but it might be worth looking at.


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On 11/30/2018 8:12 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:
Thank you. It seems like Karen is usd for siri and Daniel is used for 
the System Voice. I just wish their is a good Female Scotish voice for 
the System Voice.


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Re: Changing VoiceOver Voice

[Angus MacKinnon]

Thank you. It seems like Karen is usd for siri and Daniel is used for the 
System Voice. I just wish their is a good Female Scotish voice for the System 
Voice.

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RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[KellyFord]

Hi,

I have checked the sound cards that the screen readers are configured for and 
all of that is correct.  So far I've not found any errors in logs.

I use virtual machines from both VMWare and VirtualBox daily on Windows but 
wanted to add a Mac to my environment for some work I'm doing and hopefully 
still have access to Windows on that machine.

If nothing else, I'll just stick to the USB sound card option.  That does work 
well.

Kelly



-Original Message-
From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 6:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

I'm probably stating the obvious, but have you checked that the screen readers 
are configured for the default Windows sound device? They should be, but under 
the VM, it's still worth verifying just to be sure.

Do any relevant error messages appear in the Windows event logs?

I haven't tried a VM on the Mac, so I can't offer advice from experience.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kelly Ford
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

I have checked this and to be clear, computer sounds, music and such plays just 
fine without the USB sound card.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

O it isn't needed 
Have you checked your vm settings or config to make sure you have an audio 
device installed to your vm for audio to be heard.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2018 2:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is always required but by using a USB audio device, I was 
able to get screen reader audio to work on the VMs.  This doesn't seem like I 
should have to do this but so far at least the VMs are now usable.



On 11/29/18, 1:40 PM, "Kelly Ford"  wrote:

The plot thickens!  Audio from JAWS and NVDA also does not work, although 
music and computer sounds all play fine.

Anyone who has resolved this sort of situation, any thoughts on what to try 
are appreciated.

Kelly

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

A new wrinkle has emerged here. I am curious if anyone else is experiencing 
this.

I used an ISO from Windows 10 version 1809 to create my virtual machine. 
Sound for the VM in general is working. However, Narrator text to speech does 
not seem to work correctly.

I can play music or other audio from the VM and it plays fine. In addition, 
when Narrator is running, I hear the sounds Narrator makes just not the speech.

I haven't tried other TTS, such as Eloquence with JAWS yet and am also 
following up with Narrator contacts.

Kelly

On 11/28/18, 6:57 PM, "kelly ford"  wrote:

Thank you for this information. Also, thank you to others who replied.

This solution fixed at least getting the program launched. I had to 
going to privacy and then accessibility and indicate that I wanted to allow 
VMware to control my computer. Then when I launched VMware fusion, I had to go 
allow the extension.

I am creating my first virtual machine so we'll see how that goes.
 Again thank you to everyone who replied here.
Kelly

On 11/28/18, 11:24 AM, "Maurice Mines"  wrote:

  Good morning, I might have an idea as to what your problem might 
be. 
Are you running OS X  Mojave? Just salute you know  if you are 
running 
the current version of VMware, you have to go into system 
preferences 
and make sure that in the privacy and/or security settings that 
VMware 
is permitted to access those resources a.k.a. the extension for 
VMware 
needs to be allowed to run. If the item is not chocked your Mac 
forbids 
the program to be run because did use it as a potential security 
risk 
when it is not. Give that a shot? And I think your problem will 
hopefully go away.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Amateur station call kd0iko.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 17:15, kelly ford wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or 
other 
> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get 
VMWare 
> Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and 

Re: Changing VoiceOver Voice

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   The voice you select will become the default for the language you 
choose.


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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/30/2018 6:43 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:
Thank you. How does someone delete a voice? So the default takes over. 
The Voice says Karen and I hear Daniel.


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Re: Changing VoiceOver Voice

[Angus MacKinnon]

Thank you. How does someone delete a voice? So the default takes over. The 
Voice says Karen and I hear Daniel.

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RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[Simon Fogarty]

HI, yeah I really do agree with this.

I’m actually having issues with my VM Fusion windows 10 machine at the moment 

I need to have both platforms available to me at the same time and the VM has 
worked best for that situation so far, however now I need to do a full reimage 
of my 2018 mac book pro and I wanted to save the vm to a flash drive but can't 
find the vm files.

 This would be so much easier with a second machine 


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2018 11:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

I work in tech support and have gotten some calls from users of our windows 
software having issues with a virtual machine both on Fusion and Parallels. 
I've pretty much come to the conclusion that if you want to run Windows, use a 
separate PC, you will have far less problems.
Original message:
> Jonathan,
> It is starting to look lihe running a VM is not as good a deal as 
> a standalone Windows machine. I am also losing faith in the VMware forums.

>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?

> On 11/30/2018 7:57 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> This is the second person I have heard having issues with a Focus 
>> display and current versions. ET was unable to get the Focus driver 
>> installed. Does anybody know if these issues have been discussed with 
>> VMWare? I guess the one other major issue we in the Blind community 
>> have experienced with VMWare is that the Caps lock does not get 
>> transferred over to the VM without major hacks. Personally, I would 
>> love to have my Windows USB keyboard hard attached to the VM but I 
>> have no idea if this is possible.
>>> On Nov 28, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:

>>> Hi Kelly,

>>> I’ve struggled with VMWare Fusion lots as well, but do have it going 
>>> pretty much all the time now. The one trick I’ve noticed you have to 
>>> do is toggle back and forth in and out of your machine’s screen 
>>> while it’s starting up. I hope I can explain this correctly, here goes:

>>> When your machine starts, you’ll eventually hear VO say “suspend 
>>> this guest operating system”. At that point, press 
>>> Command+control+f. You’ll probably hear VO say something like space 
>>> with applications followed by whatever is currently running, like finder, 
>>> Mail, Messages or whatever.
>>> Press Control+command+f again, and you should hear VO say “Space 
>>> with the name of your Windows machine full-screen”. At that point, 
>>> you know you are in the VMWare window. Press Control+G to give 
>>> keyboard focus to the VM machine. Oh yeah, and the keystroke to 
>>> start Narrator won’t work, because VO is picking up the 
>>> Control+Windows combination as its command. I normally do Windows+R, 
>>> then type Narrator, and it does come up. Then, to get out of 
>>> Narrator, I have to alt-tab to the Narrator Settings window, and 
>>> when I press Alt+F4, Narrator does exit. If you can get to the point 
>>> where you can in fact install JAWS, it does work pretty nicely, by 
>>> the way. I started out with VMWare 10, and my USB devices, including 
>>> my Focus 40 Blue, connected just fine. But then I tried upgrading to 
>>> VMWare Version 11, and for some reason I couldn't get any of my USB devices 
>>> going, so I had to go back to version 10.

>>> I hope this isn’t confusing, and that maybe others can chime in with 
>>> clarifications or other thoughts. Good luck and I hope you can get it going.

>>> Pete De Vasto

 On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:15 PM, kelly ford  wrote:

 Hi,

 These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or 
 other resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get 
 VMWare Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  
 I launch the program and it opens but then stops responding. 
 Eventually I force quit the program.

 Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? 
 I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.

 The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.

 Thank you,

 Kelly

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RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I'm probably stating the obvious, but have you checked that the screen readers 
are configured for the default Windows sound device? They should be, but under 
the VM, it's still worth verifying just to be sure.

Do any relevant error messages appear in the Windows event logs?

I haven't tried a VM on the Mac, so I can't offer advice from experience.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kelly Ford
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

I have checked this and to be clear, computer sounds, music and such plays just 
fine without the USB sound card.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

O it isn't needed 
Have you checked your vm settings or config to make sure you have an audio 
device installed to your vm for audio to be heard.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2018 2:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is always required but by using a USB audio device, I was 
able to get screen reader audio to work on the VMs.  This doesn't seem like I 
should have to do this but so far at least the VMs are now usable.



On 11/29/18, 1:40 PM, "Kelly Ford"  wrote:

The plot thickens!  Audio from JAWS and NVDA also does not work, although 
music and computer sounds all play fine.

Anyone who has resolved this sort of situation, any thoughts on what to try 
are appreciated.

Kelly

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

A new wrinkle has emerged here. I am curious if anyone else is experiencing 
this.

I used an ISO from Windows 10 version 1809 to create my virtual machine. 
Sound for the VM in general is working. However, Narrator text to speech does 
not seem to work correctly.

I can play music or other audio from the VM and it plays fine. In addition, 
when Narrator is running, I hear the sounds Narrator makes just not the speech.

I haven't tried other TTS, such as Eloquence with JAWS yet and am also 
following up with Narrator contacts.

Kelly

On 11/28/18, 6:57 PM, "kelly ford"  wrote:

Thank you for this information. Also, thank you to others who replied.

This solution fixed at least getting the program launched. I had to 
going to privacy and then accessibility and indicate that I wanted to allow 
VMware to control my computer. Then when I launched VMware fusion, I had to go 
allow the extension.

I am creating my first virtual machine so we'll see how that goes.
 Again thank you to everyone who replied here.
Kelly

On 11/28/18, 11:24 AM, "Maurice Mines"  wrote:

  Good morning, I might have an idea as to what your problem might 
be. 
Are you running OS X  Mojave? Just salute you know  if you are 
running 
the current version of VMware, you have to go into system 
preferences 
and make sure that in the privacy and/or security settings that 
VMware 
is permitted to access those resources a.k.a. the extension for 
VMware 
needs to be allowed to run. If the item is not chocked your Mac 
forbids 
the program to be run because did use it as a potential security 
risk 
when it is not. Give that a shot? And I think your problem will 
hopefully go away.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Amateur station call kd0iko.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 17:15, kelly ford wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or 
other 
> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get 
VMWare 
> Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I 
launch 
> the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I 
force 
> quit the program.
>
> Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be 
up? 
> I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.
>
> The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kelly
>
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Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[kelly ford]

I have had success with VirtualBox previously and still do as long as I don't 
update to the 1809 release of Windows. There is an open ticket with Oracle for 
audio issues with VirtualBox and that version of Windows.

Kelly
On 11/30/18, 4:20 PM, "Mike Arrigo"  wrote:

I work in tech support and have gotten some calls from users of our 
windows software having issues with a virtual machine both on Fusion 
and Parallels. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that if you want 
to run Windows, use a separate PC, you will have far less problems.
Original message:
> Jonathan,
> It is starting to look lihe running a VM is not as good a deal as a
> standalone Windows machine. I am also losing faith in the VMware forums.

>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?

> On 11/30/2018 7:57 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> This is the second person I have heard having issues with a Focus 
>> display and current versions. ET was unable to get the Focus driver 
>> installed. Does anybody know if these issues have been discussed with 
>> VMWare? I guess the one other major issue we in the Blind community 
>> have experienced with VMWare is that the Caps lock does not get 
>> transferred over to the VM without major hacks. Personally, I would 
>> love to have my Windows USB keyboard hard attached to the VM but I have 
>> no idea if this is possible.
>>> On Nov 28, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Pete De Vasto  
wrote:

>>> Hi Kelly,

>>> I’ve struggled with VMWare Fusion lots as well, but do have it going 
>>> pretty much all the time now. The one trick I’ve noticed you have to do 
>>> is toggle back and forth in and out of your machine’s screen while it’s 
>>> starting up. I hope I can explain this correctly, here goes:

>>> When your machine starts, you’ll eventually hear VO say “suspend this 
>>> guest operating system”. At that point, press Command+control+f. You’ll 
>>> probably hear VO say something like space with applications followed by 
>>> whatever is currently running, like finder, Mail, Messages or whatever. 
>>> Press Control+command+f again, and you should hear VO say “Space with 
>>> the name of your Windows machine full-screen”. At that point, you know 
>>> you are in the VMWare window. Press Control+G to give keyboard focus to 
>>> the VM machine. Oh yeah, and the keystroke to start Narrator won’t 
>>> work, because VO is picking up the Control+Windows combination as its 
>>> command. I normally do Windows+R, then type Narrator, and it does come 
>>> up. Then, to get out of Narrator, I have to alt-tab to the Narrator 
>>> Settings window, and when I press Alt+F4, Narrator does exit. If you 
>>> can get to the point where you can in fact install JAWS, it does work 
>>> pretty nicely, by the way. I started out with VMWare 10, and my USB 
>>> devices, including my Focus 40 Blue, connected just fine. But then I 
>>> tried upgrading to VMWare Version 11, and for some reason I couldn't 
>>> get any of my USB devices going, so I had to go back to version 10.

>>> I hope this isn’t confusing, and that maybe others can chime in with 
>>> clarifications or other thoughts. Good luck and I hope you can get it 
going.

>>> Pete De Vasto

 On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:15 PM, kelly ford  wrote:

 Hi,

 These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other 
 resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare 
 Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I launch 
 the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I force 
 quit the program.

 Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? 
 I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.

 The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.

 Thank you,

 Kelly

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Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[Mike Arrigo]

I work in tech support and have gotten some calls from users of our 
windows software having issues with a virtual machine both on Fusion 
and Parallels. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that if you want 
to run Windows, use a separate PC, you will have far less problems.

Original message:

Jonathan,
It is starting to look lihe running a VM is not as good a deal as a
standalone Windows machine. I am also losing faith in the VMware forums.



 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?



On 11/30/2018 7:57 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
This is the second person I have heard having issues with a Focus 
display and current versions. ET was unable to get the Focus driver 
installed. Does anybody know if these issues have been discussed with 
VMWare? I guess the one other major issue we in the Blind community 
have experienced with VMWare is that the Caps lock does not get 
transferred over to the VM without major hacks. Personally, I would 
love to have my Windows USB keyboard hard attached to the VM but I have 
no idea if this is possible.

On Nov 28, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:



Hi Kelly,


I’ve struggled with VMWare Fusion lots as well, but do have it going 
pretty much all the time now. The one trick I’ve noticed you have to do 
is toggle back and forth in and out of your machine’s screen while it’s 
starting up. I hope I can explain this correctly, here goes:


When your machine starts, you’ll eventually hear VO say “suspend this 
guest operating system”. At that point, press Command+control+f. You’ll 
probably hear VO say something like space with applications followed by 
whatever is currently running, like finder, Mail, Messages or whatever. 
Press Control+command+f again, and you should hear VO say “Space with 
the name of your Windows machine full-screen”. At that point, you know 
you are in the VMWare window. Press Control+G to give keyboard focus to 
the VM machine. Oh yeah, and the keystroke to start Narrator won’t 
work, because VO is picking up the Control+Windows combination as its 
command. I normally do Windows+R, then type Narrator, and it does come 
up. Then, to get out of Narrator, I have to alt-tab to the Narrator 
Settings window, and when I press Alt+F4, Narrator does exit. If you 
can get to the point where you can in fact install JAWS, it does work 
pretty nicely, by the way. I started out with VMWare 10, and my USB 
devices, including my Focus 40 Blue, connected just fine. But then I 
tried upgrading to VMWare Version 11, and for some reason I couldn't 
get any of my USB devices going, so I had to go back to version 10.


I hope this isn’t confusing, and that maybe others can chime in with 
clarifications or other thoughts. Good luck and I hope you can get it going.



Pete De Vasto



On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:15 PM, kelly ford  wrote:



Hi,


These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other 
resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare 
Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I launch 
the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I force 
quit the program.


Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? 
I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.



The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.



Thank you,



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Re: Braille issue on Mac.

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have been trying to guess at all this multi-lingual Braille. Sometimes in DUO 
Lingo learning Hebrew I can type Hebrew Braille and sometimes it merges Hebrew 
and English and sometimes I get English letters even though the touch keyboard 
is definitely in Hebrew. We have also had questions about how to enter Latin 
accented characters recently on the list and if Eight dot computer Braille 
would help with this. 

Can anybody recommend any resources on this? Everyday I get more comfortable 
with Braille but everyday I seem to have more questions.

Jonathan Cohn in 
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:50 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> There seems to be a braille issue when reading with my Helptech Basic braille 
> 40.
> THe bug seems to appear when reading on the web and in mail.
> It seems that the braille table is automatically changed while i read on a 
> webpage.
> It changes from swedish to english or american english.
> I want the braille to be percistant at swedish grade 1 and not change to US 
> english grade 1.
> It doesn’t matter if i read a swedish or english document on the web or in 
> mail.
> I have to digg more into this but are there other not native english who have 
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Re: Pages

[Anne Robertson]

You can save the layout you prefer as a template and make it the default 
template when you open a new document.
Our book covers all of this and more.

>

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Nov 2018, at 16:46, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> hi,
> 
> Note that this is a per document thing.  I don't believe that it is an all 
> encompassing action.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 08:14, Uzzy Galiara  > wrote:
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> Thanks this has been a great help.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 30 Nov 2018, at 14:30, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Thanks, Tim!  I never use them, so I'll get rid of them, to. :)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 8:21 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Donna's solution works well, but there is actually a way to remove the 
>>> headers and footers from your document.
>>> 
>>> • Interact with the Toolbar.
>>> • Select the Document radio button.
>>> • Stop interacting with the Toolbar and navigate to the Formatter area.
>>> • Interact with it, then interact with the Scroll area.
>>> • uncheck the Show Headers and Show Footers checkboxes.
>>> • Done.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 06:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>>> I don't think there is, but if you interact with the body, you can 
>>> basically just ignore them.
>>> Cheers,
>>> donna
>>> 
 On Nov 30, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Uzzy Galiara >>> > wrote:
 
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 Is there any way of changing the way a pages document functions? I want it 
 to work like a Microsoft Word document when writing and editing. For 
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Re: Braille Display Commands

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Jonathan,
   No. I have wasted 2 days with this so after I run errands today, I 
will start over with a fresh pairing of the Focus to the iPhone. I had 
hoped to work in the iOS mail app by now.


   What I would suggest is to go into the Braille commands in VO 
settings on the iPhone and browse the list. One command that I think is 
worth adding right away is the one that opens the VO settings directly. 
I used space 1-3-6. The hard part is finding combinations that do not 
conflict. You can also "replace" commands already assigned that you will 
not use.


   There is one I think Freedom Scientific made an error with. They 
assigned the 'activate selected item' command to tap instead of double 
tap. Picky but I changed that anyway.


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On 11/30/2018 8:02 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

ET,

Did you write up a procedure for reproducing additions to Braille commanders 
that you recommend for frequent users. I’d love to learn ways to make 
processing e-mail more efficient especially on the IOS platform. Though I am 
still not getting an good concept of “QuickNav” and “single level quick nav” 
when it comes to working with a Perkins keyboard.
Thanks,

Jonathan


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 wrote:

   With the Focus Blue 5th, I have assigned some braille commands on both iPhone and 
iPad. All work fine with the exception of the "Activate selected item" which I 
assigned space 3-6 as well as the nav mode buttons. Works on the iPad, it did work on the 
iPhone but now when I execute this command on folders, the folder tries to open but goes 
back to the first item on the home screen. I can use the command to open apps or do other 
things. Any ideas? I reset the commands and redid them, same problem. Strange.

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Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Jonathan,
   It is starting to look lihe running a VM is not as good a deal as a 
standalone Windows machine. I am also losing faith in the VMware forums.


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On 11/30/2018 7:57 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

This is the second person I have heard having issues with a Focus display and 
current versions. ET was unable to get the Focus driver installed. Does anybody 
know if these issues have been discussed with VMWare? I guess the one other 
major issue we in the Blind community have experienced with VMWare is that the 
Caps lock does not get transferred over to the VM without major hacks. 
Personally, I would love to have my Windows USB keyboard hard attached to the 
VM but I have no idea if this is possible.

On Nov 28, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:

Hi Kelly,

I’ve struggled with VMWare Fusion lots as well, but do have it going pretty 
much all the time now. The one trick I’ve noticed you have to do is toggle back 
and forth in and out of your machine’s screen while it’s starting up. I hope I 
can explain this correctly, here goes:

When your machine starts, you’ll eventually hear VO say “suspend this guest 
operating system”. At that point, press Command+control+f. You’ll probably hear 
VO say something like space with applications followed by whatever is currently 
running, like finder, Mail, Messages or whatever. Press Control+command+f 
again, and you should hear VO say “Space with the name of your Windows machine 
full-screen”. At that point, you know you are in the VMWare window. Press 
Control+G to give keyboard focus to the VM machine. Oh yeah, and the keystroke 
to start Narrator won’t work, because VO is picking up the Control+Windows 
combination as its command. I normally do Windows+R, then type Narrator, and it 
does come up. Then, to get out of Narrator, I have to alt-tab to the Narrator 
Settings window, and when I press Alt+F4, Narrator does exit. If you can get to 
the point where you can in fact install JAWS, it does work pretty nicely, by 
the way. I started out with VMWare 10, and my USB devices, including my Focus 
40 Blue, connected just fine. But then I tried upgrading to VMWare Version 11, 
and for some reason I couldn't get any of my USB devices going, so I had to go 
back to version 10.

I hope this isn’t confusing, and that maybe others can chime in with 
clarifications or other thoughts. Good luck and I hope you can get it going.

Pete De Vasto


On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:15 PM, kelly ford  wrote:

Hi,

These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other resource, 
I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare Fusion to run on a 
MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I launch the program and it opens 
but then stops responding. Eventually I force quit the program.

Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? I’ve used 
VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.

The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.

Thank you,

Kelly

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Re: Braille Display Commands

[Jonathan Cohn]

ET,

Did you write up a procedure for reproducing additions to Braille commanders 
that you recommend for frequent users. I’d love to learn ways to make 
processing e-mail more efficient especially on the IOS platform. Though I am 
still not getting an good concept of “QuickNav” and “single level quick nav” 
when it comes to working with a Perkins keyboard. 
Thanks,

Jonathan

> On Nov 29, 2018, at 1:19 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   With the Focus Blue 5th, I have assigned some braille commands on both 
> iPhone and iPad. All work fine with the exception of the "Activate selected 
> item" which I assigned space 3-6 as well as the nav mode buttons. Works on 
> the iPad, it did work on the iPhone but now when I execute this command on 
> folders, the folder tries to open but goes back to the first item on the home 
> screen. I can use the command to open apps or do other things. Any ideas? I 
> reset the commands and redid them, same problem. Strange.
> 
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Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[Jonathan Cohn]

This is the second person I have heard having issues with a Focus display and 
current versions. ET was unable to get the Focus driver installed. Does anybody 
know if these issues have been discussed with VMWare? I guess the one other 
major issue we in the Blind community have experienced with VMWare is that the 
Caps lock does not get transferred over to the VM without major hacks. 
Personally, I would love to have my Windows USB keyboard hard attached to the 
VM but I have no idea if this is possible. 
> On Nov 28, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kelly,
> 
> I’ve struggled with VMWare Fusion lots as well, but do have it going pretty 
> much all the time now. The one trick I’ve noticed you have to do is toggle 
> back and forth in and out of your machine’s screen while it’s starting up. I 
> hope I can explain this correctly, here goes:
> 
> When your machine starts, you’ll eventually hear VO say “suspend this guest 
> operating system”. At that point, press Command+control+f. You’ll probably 
> hear VO say something like space with applications followed by whatever is 
> currently running, like finder, Mail, Messages or whatever. Press 
> Control+command+f again, and you should hear VO say “Space with the name of 
> your Windows machine full-screen”. At that point, you know you are in the 
> VMWare window. Press Control+G to give keyboard focus to the VM machine. Oh 
> yeah, and the keystroke to start Narrator won’t work, because VO is picking 
> up the Control+Windows combination as its command. I normally do Windows+R, 
> then type Narrator, and it does come up. Then, to get out of Narrator, I have 
> to alt-tab to the Narrator Settings window, and when I press Alt+F4, Narrator 
> does exit. If you can get to the point where you can in fact install JAWS, it 
> does work pretty nicely, by the way. I started out with VMWare 10, and my USB 
> devices, including my Focus 40 Blue, connected just fine. But then I tried 
> upgrading to VMWare Version 11, and for some reason I couldn't get any of my 
> USB devices going, so I had to go back to version 10.
> 
> I hope this isn’t confusing, and that maybe others can chime in with 
> clarifications or other thoughts. Good luck and I hope you can get it going.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:15 PM, kelly ford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other 
>> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare Fusion 
>> to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I launch the program 
>> and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I force quit the program.
>> 
>> Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? I’ve 
>> used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.
>> 
>> The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Kelly
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Re: Pages

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

hi,

Note that this is a per document thing.  I don't believe that it is an all 
encompassing action.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 30, 2018, at 08:14, Uzzy Galiara  wrote:

Thanks this has been a great help.

Sent from my iPhone

On 30 Nov 2018, at 14:30, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Thanks, Tim!  I never use them, so I'll get rid of them, to. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 8:21 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Donna's solution works well, but there is actually a way to remove the 
>> headers and footers from your document.
>> 
>> • Interact with the Toolbar.
>> • Select the Document radio button.
>> • Stop interacting with the Toolbar and navigate to the Formatter area.
>> • Interact with it, then interact with the Scroll area.
>> • uncheck the Show Headers and Show Footers checkboxes.
>> • Done.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 06:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think there is, but if you interact with the body, you can basically 
>> just ignore them.
>> Cheers,
>> donna
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Uzzy Galiara >> > wrote:
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Re: Pages

[Uzzy Galiara]

Thanks this has been a great help.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Nov 2018, at 14:30, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Tim!  I never use them, so I'll get rid of them, to. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 8:21 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Donna's solution works well, but there is actually a way to remove the 
>> headers and footers from your document.
>> 
>> • Interact with the Toolbar.
>> • Select the Document radio button.
>> • Stop interacting with the Toolbar and navigate to the Formatter area.
>> • Interact with it, then interact with the Scroll area.
>> • uncheck the Show Headers and Show Footers checkboxes.
>> • Done.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 06:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think there is, but if you interact with the body, you can basically 
>> just ignore them.
>> Cheers,
>> donna
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Uzzy Galiara  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone
>>> Is there any way of changing the way a pages document functions? I want it 
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>>> example is heir a way of removing the header and footer fields?
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RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I have checked this and to be clear, computer sounds, music and such plays just 
fine without the USB sound card.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

O it isn't needed 
Have you checked your vm settings or config to make sure you have an audio 
device installed to your vm for audio to be heard.

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Sent: Friday, 30 November 2018 2:32 PM
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Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is always required but by using a USB audio device, I was 
able to get screen reader audio to work on the VMs.  This doesn't seem like I 
should have to do this but so far at least the VMs are now usable.



On 11/29/18, 1:40 PM, "Kelly Ford"  wrote:

The plot thickens!  Audio from JAWS and NVDA also does not work, although 
music and computer sounds all play fine.

Anyone who has resolved this sort of situation, any thoughts on what to try 
are appreciated.

Kelly

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

A new wrinkle has emerged here. I am curious if anyone else is experiencing 
this.

I used an ISO from Windows 10 version 1809 to create my virtual machine. 
Sound for the VM in general is working. However, Narrator text to speech does 
not seem to work correctly.

I can play music or other audio from the VM and it plays fine. In addition, 
when Narrator is running, I hear the sounds Narrator makes just not the speech.

I haven't tried other TTS, such as Eloquence with JAWS yet and am also 
following up with Narrator contacts.

Kelly

On 11/28/18, 6:57 PM, "kelly ford"  wrote:

Thank you for this information. Also, thank you to others who replied.

This solution fixed at least getting the program launched. I had to 
going to privacy and then accessibility and indicate that I wanted to allow 
VMware to control my computer. Then when I launched VMware fusion, I had to go 
allow the extension.

I am creating my first virtual machine so we'll see how that goes.
 Again thank you to everyone who replied here.
Kelly

On 11/28/18, 11:24 AM, "Maurice Mines"  wrote:

  Good morning, I might have an idea as to what your problem might 
be. 
Are you running OS X  Mojave? Just salute you know  if you are 
running 
the current version of VMware, you have to go into system 
preferences 
and make sure that in the privacy and/or security settings that 
VMware 
is permitted to access those resources a.k.a. the extension for 
VMware 
needs to be allowed to run. If the item is not chocked your Mac 
forbids 
the program to be run because did use it as a potential security 
risk 
when it is not. Give that a shot? And I think your problem will 
hopefully go away.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Amateur station call kd0iko.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 17:15, kelly ford wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or 
other 
> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get 
VMWare 
> Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I 
launch 
> the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I 
force 
> quit the program.
>
> Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be 
up? 
> I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.
>
> The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kelly
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Re: Pages

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Tim!  I never use them, so I'll get rid of them, to. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Nov 30, 2018, at 8:21 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Donna's solution works well, but there is actually a way to remove the 
> headers and footers from your document.
> 
> • Interact with the Toolbar.
> • Select the Document radio button.
> • Stop interacting with the Toolbar and navigate to the Formatter area.
> • Interact with it, then interact with the Scroll area.
> • uncheck the Show Headers and Show Footers checkboxes.
> • Done.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 06:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I don't think there is, but if you interact with the body, you can basically 
> just ignore them.
> Cheers,
> donna
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Uzzy Galiara > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone
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Re: Pages

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Donna's solution works well, but there is actually a way to remove the headers 
and footers from your document.

• Interact with the Toolbar.
• Select the Document radio button.
• Stop interacting with the Toolbar and navigate to the Formatter area.
• Interact with it, then interact with the Scroll area.
• uncheck the Show Headers and Show Footers checkboxes.
• Done.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 30, 2018, at 06:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I don't think there is, but if you interact with the body, you can basically 
just ignore them.
Cheers,
donna

> On Nov 30, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Uzzy Galiara  wrote:
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Re: Pages

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I don't think there is, but if you interact with the body, you can basically 
just ignore them.
Cheers,
donna

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[Uzzy Galiara]

Hi everyone
Is there any way of changing the way a pages document functions? I want it to 
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