Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Mark,

I read ebooks using the Daniel voice all the time. I also listen to Audible 
books and sometimes, the Daniel voice does a better job than the human reader. 
However, when a good human reader does the job, it’s definitely better.

Cheers,

Anne




> On 16 Apr 2019, at 06:26, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark 
> 
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Mark,
I have a question about your experience.  You describe  the tts voice as 
your beloved Samantha, suggesting that you  spend allot of time with her 
as a major part of your listening?
If true, might your personal  history with the voice, the inflections the 
pronunciations impact your appreciation?

Will let you answer if you are so enclined before making a comment.
Kare



On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, M. Taylor wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark


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RE: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Andrew,

I'll go with Mark here and it sounds like yes the friends button has been 
removed.

Still the other instructions apply.

-Original Message-
From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 2:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

Thank you, Mark, it’s very reassuring.  I’ve listened to a few podcasts for 
earlier versions of Apple watch, and the presenters were talking about holding 
down “Friends” button - a rectangular button.  But I couldn’t see that button 
on the series 4 in the shop, and there was nobody on hand to ask.  So your 
response is very helpful.  Does that mean that the “friends’ button has been 
dispensed with?

I’m very excited about my watch coming.  I’ve. waited for a number of years to 
get one, and now it’s coming.

Andrew
> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:46 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> Do not be nervous with regard to how to power on your Apple Watch.
> 
> The watch is powered on by simply pressing the Digital Crown or what would be 
> considered the stem on a regular Braille watch.  
> 
> Just press and hold the stem in, for about 5 seconds and the watch will power 
> on.  
> 
> I cannot remember if VoiceOver starts up at the power on but if you do not 
> hear anything after about a minute or so, press the stem/digital crown 3 
> times to enable VoiceOver.
> 
> Please let us know how it goes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:20 PM
> To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow
> 
> Hi Listers,
> 
> In advance of my Apple watch series 4 arriving tomorrow, I’ve listened to a 
> number of podcasts on how to set it up.  One thing I’m not clear is how to 
> turn it on & off. Please give me a tip what to look for on the watch to start 
> it.  I’m feeling terribly nervous.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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RE: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Andrew,

I'm probably late in answering this as others would have said the same thing,

Turning the watch on is very simple,

There are only 2 basic buttons on the watch,

The digital crown that's the winedy thing,
And the power button 
Same side of the watch smoothish below the digital crown,

 When you get the watch and unwrap it from it's plastic covering hold the watch 
up with the digital crown top right and the power button is below it flat 
smooth  button,

Hold that in for approx. 2 seconds and then let it go,

Wait a few seconds say 10 to be sure and then press the digital crown in to the 
watch 3 times quickly 
This should start up voiceover,

>From there just follow the prompts from the watch and you should be good to 
>go.,

Good luck.
-Original Message-
From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 1:20 PM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

Hi Listers,

In advance of my Apple watch series 4 arriving tomorrow, I’ve listened to a 
number of podcasts on how to set it up.  One thing I’m not clear is how to turn 
it on & off. Please give me a tip what to look for on the watch to start it.  
I’m feeling terribly nervous.

Many thanks

Andrew

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RE: Apple watch series 4 question on cellular

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Andrew,

I believe if you get the cellular version then yes you would need to put a sim 
or have it connected to your mobile phone plan to get the full benefits out of 
it.

 The cellular version can let you run the watch with out the phone on you all 
the time but does cost in most cases slightly more dependatnt on your providers 
charging plans.

Here in Nz we don't even have the cellular versions just the gps as our 
providers cant' sort themselves out re charging 

So really unless you need to have a watch that can make phone calls directly 
from it then just go gps 
You can do everything from the watch via the Bluetooth connection with the 
phone 
F

Good luck and hope you find the watch great which ever version you get.
-Original Message-
From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 8:45 AM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Apple watch series 4 question on cellular

Hi,

As for Apple watch series 4, I am a little confused. I’m interested in the 44 
MM watch but I’m not quite clear what they mean by cellular & GPS.  Does it 
mean it will cost me more to run on top of the monthly payment for my iPhone 
because it uses cellular?  Or is the use of Apple watch series 4 cellular 
somehow incorporated into the SIM plan I have for my iPhone?  I’ve been 
searching for an answer on Apple’s website but it’s not clear on that point at 
all, which is very annoying because I don’t know which Apple watch series 4 to 
go for.  I really want the sport type but with a larger display hoping it might 
be easier to perform gestures on it or use onscreen keyboard.  Any comments, 
please?

Andrew

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A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark 


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RE: Dropbox Changes

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah it’s odd,
Dunedin won that gigabit town comp a few years back and I’ve not yet seen a 
gigabit related speed

I get mixed results both at home and work

But still it’s not good enough for what I pay.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 8:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes

See, now I find that interesting. I can’t really complain about download 
speeds. I noticed comments on different lists stating how long the IOS 12.2  
and the latest Mac OS took to download and install. But honestly, it only took 
about 10 or 15 minutes on the iPhone to download and install. The Mac took 
about the same time. I used to get very slow uploads when using Dropbox, b but 
haven’t tried it for a couple of years now.


On 15/04/2019, at 9:20 PM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

ET,

You don't know what our internet connections are like,

Snails can move faster.


I have gigabit internet and things still take dialup speed times to download.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 9:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes

   Seconds mere seconds.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/14/2019 2:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Thanks ET,
Now downloading it, how long it will take ai have know idea.


On 15/04/2019, at 8:47 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:

  Unlike the iPhone, you can get many Mac apps directly from app
developers. Dropbox link is below.



>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
true?

On 4/14/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi all,
Thought I could ask this in the current thread as it has to do with
Drop Box.
Is there an App for Drop Box on the Mac or are you using the Web? I
have the Drop Box App on my iPhone, but couldn’t find one in the Mac
App Store?
Sorry for asking a silly question.

On 15/04/2019, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

> wrote:

And, as someone mentioned, you can always share from within the
document, at least in Pages.
Cheers,
Donna



On Apr 14, 2019, at 12:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

> wrote:

 Well I got the idea that its not as simple as Dropbox but that is
because I am used to DB. Got acquainted with the Files app this
morning on the iPhone. Might like having 5gigs free as opposed to
2gigs on DB.

 I generally only share between devices but did see how one shares
with people on all 3 platforms. Not too bad

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 


Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it
were true?

On 4/13/2019 7:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hey ET,
iCloud works great under Windows.  I just like it b/c it's super
easy.  You store a file there, and you can access it on your Mac,
your phone--using Files, and for me, my PC.  I guess I just like
the interface better than either google or Dropbox.  But Ryan is
right, if you need to share the file link with others, it isn't a
good option.
Cheers,
Donna

On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

> wrote:

Hi Donna,
 That is how I use Dropbox. I also keep my shopping list there
and bring it up at the store.

 But I still run Windows as well. I suppose iCloud Drive will
not play there? Still, I should set it up and see why you like
it so much, huh. :)

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 


Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it
were true?

On 4/13/2019 6:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

No, it is not.  I had forgotten about that.  I have a dropbox
account but never use it.  But then I'm mostly just sharing
files between my own devices.
Cheers,
Donna

On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Ryan Mann
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>


> wrote:

Hello Donna.  

RE: Not All Apple Stores are Created Equally (Smile)

[Simon Fogarty]

What, go to Hawaii 
Nice weather,
Warm,
Beachs,
 Volcanoes 
Hell why go there when I can get none of that here where I live,
 Except the volcanoes that is.I'd say pretty girls in next to nothing but hey I 
live in a university town,
We have them everywhere even when it's snowing.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 2:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Not All Apple Stores are Created Equally (Smile)

Well, if this makes you want to go to Hawaii and you have a guide dog, you 
won’t want to miss Vickie Kennedy’s talk tonight on what you need to know 
before going to Hawaii. Reply to this thread if you are interested, and I will 
forward details to you from the GDB-PAWS mailing list.
Jonathan Cohn 
> On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:23 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I just returned from a short vacation to Hawaii.  
> 
> While there, I discovered that there is an Apple Store located in the 
> beautiful Royal Hawaiian Hotel and Resort down at Waikiki Beach.
> 
> Wow!  To say that the customer service was world class would be the 
> understatement of the highest degree.
> 
> Now I've never been to any of Apple's flagship stores, here on the 
> mainland, but I'll bet, beans to bacon, that the Royal Hawaiian 
> location mirrors them, precisely, in terms of enthusiasm, class, and 
> that ineffable quality that sets Apple apart from other tech companies.
> 
> As for the Apple representatives?  Well, they were the most attentive 
> and gracious employees I've yet to encounter at any Apple Store.  In 
> fact, I was so impressed that I actually visited the store twice, just 
> to see if my initial impression was accurate; and yes, it was, indeed.
> 
> Now when I travel, I like to purchase products from significant store 
> locations.  For example, I have purchased items from the first 
> Starbucks store, the first Nordstrom store, Amazon Go, etc.
> 
> So of course I had to buy something from the Royal Hawaiian  Apple 
> Store because I may never get that way, again.  The problem is that I 
> couldn't think of anything I needed, (smile).
> 
> In the end, I decided to buy a secondary iPad charger for my new iPad Pro.
> I am using it to more rapidly charge my beloved iPHone 8 Plus.
> 
> While all of my local Apple stores are great places to explore the 
> world of Apple, I can definitely say that the Royal Hawaiian location 
> is a cut above and has forever changed my idea of what world class 
> customer service looks and feels like.
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RE: Dropbox Changes

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,
Didn't think of that.

Cheers for the heads up.

I thought iCloud drive was more like that.

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 11:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes

Simon,

iCloud is basically just a folder.  You can organize it however you want.  So 
you could have a folder for books one for music, etc.
Best,
Donna


> On Apr 15, 2019, at 4:15 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to different folders 
> etc?
> 
> I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 3:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes
> 
>I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which platform 
> since iCloud Drive uses shared folders,
> 
>Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 devices here. 
> The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.
> 
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> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Donna,
>> 
>> Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac & 
>> windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now 
>> becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about 
>> number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for 
>> another storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s 
>> so handy to have a storage facility you can share among many devices 
>> for copying transferring files & folders.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB 
 free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
  There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> > wrote:
 
   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit 
 (which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be 
 an issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.
 
   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free) 
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RE: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

[M. Taylor]

Hello Andrew,

OopS!!!  

Please disregard my previous post to this thread.

I gave you the wrong instructions.

Okay, to turn VoiceOver on and off, you do, in fact, press the digital crown 3 
times.  

However, to power on the watch, you press the long side button for about 5 
seconds.

Andrew, I am so sorry for any confusion I may have caused you.  

I use the digital crown so offen that I focused on it, instead of the correct 
steps.

So, when you get your watch, you will feel a long, rectangular button, just 
below the digital crown.  That is the side button and the one you will use to 
both power on and power off the watch.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

Thank you, Mark, it’s very reassuring.  I’ve listened to a few podcasts for 
earlier versions of Apple watch, and the presenters were talking about holding 
down “Friends” button - a rectangular button.  But I couldn’t see that button 
on the series 4 in the shop, and there was nobody on hand to ask.  So your 
response is very helpful.  Does that mean that the “friends’ button has been 
dispensed with?

I’m very excited about my watch coming.  I’ve. waited for a number of years to 
get one, and now it’s coming.

Andrew
> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:46 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> Do not be nervous with regard to how to power on your Apple Watch.
> 
> The watch is powered on by simply pressing the Digital Crown or what would be 
> considered the stem on a regular Braille watch.  
> 
> Just press and hold the stem in, for about 5 seconds and the watch will power 
> on.  
> 
> I cannot remember if VoiceOver starts up at the power on but if you do not 
> hear anything after about a minute or so, press the stem/digital crown 3 
> times to enable VoiceOver.
> 
> Please let us know how it goes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:20 PM
> To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow
> 
> Hi Listers,
> 
> In advance of my Apple watch series 4 arriving tomorrow, I’ve listened to a 
> number of podcasts on how to set it up.  One thing I’m not clear is how to 
> turn it on & off. Please give me a tip what to look for on the watch to start 
> it.  I’m feeling terribly nervous.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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Re: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

[Maria Reyes]

Hi. The rectangular button is now the side button. At least on my Series 4 that 
button is right next to the digital crown.

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 10:59 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Mark, it’s very reassuring.  I’ve listened to a few podcasts for 
> earlier versions of Apple watch, and the presenters were talking about 
> holding down “Friends” button - a rectangular button.  But I couldn’t see 
> that button on the series 4 in the shop, and there was nobody on hand to ask. 
>  So your response is very helpful.  Does that mean that the “friends’ button 
> has been dispensed with?
> 
> I’m very excited about my watch coming.  I’ve. waited for a number of years 
> to get one, and now it’s coming.
> 
> Andrew
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:46 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Andrew,
>> 
>> Do not be nervous with regard to how to power on your Apple Watch.
>> 
>> The watch is powered on by simply pressing the Digital Crown or what would 
>> be considered the stem on a regular Braille watch.  
>> 
>> Just press and hold the stem in, for about 5 seconds and the watch will 
>> power on.  
>> 
>> I cannot remember if VoiceOver starts up at the power on but if you do not 
>> hear anything after about a minute or so, press the stem/digital crown 3 
>> times to enable VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Please let us know how it goes.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:20 PM
>> To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
>> Subject: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow
>> 
>> Hi Listers,
>> 
>> In advance of my Apple watch series 4 arriving tomorrow, I’ve listened to a 
>> number of podcasts on how to set it up.  One thing I’m not clear is how to 
>> turn it on & off. Please give me a tip what to look for on the watch to 
>> start it.  I’m feeling terribly nervous.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: PCloud Was Re: Dropbox Changes

[Scott Berry]

Hi there,


Please navigate to the Settings and in there should be a checkbox for 
copying a link and if that is checked then it will be in the contextual 
menu.




On 4/15/2019 7:49 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote:
That's the problem. That option isn't showing up in the contextual 
menus at all.



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 15, 2019, at 5:17 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:



Hi,
Select a file,
When you press VO+Shift+M,
there will be a option to copy download link.


On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:08 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hey guys. So I just installed PCloud on my Mac. I'm about ready to 
dump my Dropbox because of all the stupid things that they're doing. 
I'm just running into a big snag however. I just put a file in the 
PCloud Drive folder and I want to share a link to the file with 
someone. However, there's no option to do so. What do I have to do 
to make this app run properly? Thanks.


Regards,
Shawn,
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On Apr 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  As long as you do not exceed your iCloud storage.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/15/2019 2:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to 
different folders etc?

I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos
-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >

Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 3:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 


Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes
I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which 
platform since iCloud Drive uses shared folders,
Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 
devices here. The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Donna,

Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac &
windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now
becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about
number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for 
another

storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy
to have a storage facility you can share among many devices for
copying transferring files & folders.

Andrew

On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries


> wrote:

Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
Donna



On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries


> wrote:

Hi,

There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB
free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
 There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries


> wrote:

  Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit
(which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only 
be an

issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.

  So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free)
that exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.

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Re: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Thank you, Mark, it’s very reassuring.  I’ve listened to a few podcasts for 
earlier versions of Apple watch, and the presenters were talking about holding 
down “Friends” button - a rectangular button.  But I couldn’t see that button 
on the series 4 in the shop, and there was nobody on hand to ask.  So your 
response is very helpful.  Does that mean that the “friends’ button has been 
dispensed with?

I’m very excited about my watch coming.  I’ve. waited for a number of years to 
get one, and now it’s coming.

Andrew
> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:46 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> Do not be nervous with regard to how to power on your Apple Watch.
> 
> The watch is powered on by simply pressing the Digital Crown or what would be 
> considered the stem on a regular Braille watch.  
> 
> Just press and hold the stem in, for about 5 seconds and the watch will power 
> on.  
> 
> I cannot remember if VoiceOver starts up at the power on but if you do not 
> hear anything after about a minute or so, press the stem/digital crown 3 
> times to enable VoiceOver.
> 
> Please let us know how it goes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:20 PM
> To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow
> 
> Hi Listers,
> 
> In advance of my Apple watch series 4 arriving tomorrow, I’ve listened to a 
> number of podcasts on how to set it up.  One thing I’m not clear is how to 
> turn it on & off. Please give me a tip what to look for on the watch to start 
> it.  I’m feeling terribly nervous.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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Re: PCloud Was Re: Dropbox Changes

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

That's the problem. That option isn't showing up in the contextual menus at all.
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 5:17 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Select a file,
> When you press VO+Shift+M,
> there will be a option to copy download link.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:08 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys. So I just installed PCloud on my Mac. I'm about ready to dump my 
>> Dropbox because of all the stupid things that they're doing. I'm just 
>> running into a big snag however. I just put a file in the PCloud Drive 
>> folder and I want to share a link to the file with someone. However, there's 
>> no option to do so. What do I have to do to make this app run properly? 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shawn,
>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>> 
>> Want to join my Whatsapp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts or Accessibility 
>> Matters? Send me a private email with your contact information and I'll 
>> happily add you.
>> 
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
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>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   As long as you do not exceed your iCloud storage.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
 On 4/15/2019 2:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
 In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to different 
 folders etc?
 I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos
 -Original Message-
 From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 3:11 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes
 I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which platform 
 since iCloud Drive uses shared folders,
 Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 devices 
 here. The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.
  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
> On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Donna,
> 
> Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac &
> windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now
> becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about
> number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for another
> storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy
> to have a storage facility you can share among many devices for
> copying transferring files & folders.
> 
> Andrew
>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB
>>> free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
>>>  There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit
>>> (which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an
>>> issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.
>>> 
>>>   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free)
>>> that exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.
>>> 
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>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
>>> true?
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RE: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

[M. Taylor]

Hello Andrew,

Do not be nervous with regard to how to power on your Apple Watch.

The watch is powered on by simply pressing the Digital Crown or what would be 
considered the stem on a regular Braille watch.  

Just press and hold the stem in, for about 5 seconds and the watch will power 
on.  

I cannot remember if VoiceOver starts up at the power on but if you do not hear 
anything after about a minute or so, press the stem/digital crown 3 times to 
enable VoiceOver.

Please let us know how it goes.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:20 PM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Subject: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

Hi Listers,

In advance of my Apple watch series 4 arriving tomorrow, I’ve listened to a 
number of podcasts on how to set it up.  One thing I’m not clear is how to turn 
it on & off. Please give me a tip what to look for on the watch to start it.  
I’m feeling terribly nervous.

Many thanks

Andrew

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My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Listers,

In advance of my Apple watch series 4 arriving tomorrow, I’ve listened to a 
number of podcasts on how to set it up.  One thing I’m not clear is how to turn 
it on & off. Please give me a tip what to look for on the watch to start it.  
I’m feeling terribly nervous.

Many thanks

Andrew

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Re: PCloud Was Re: Dropbox Changes

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
Select a file,
When you press VO+Shift+M,
there will be a option to copy download link.


> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:08 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys. So I just installed PCloud on my Mac. I'm about ready to dump my 
> Dropbox because of all the stupid things that they're doing. I'm just running 
> into a big snag however. I just put a file in the PCloud Drive folder and I 
> want to share a link to the file with someone. However, there's no option to 
> do so. What do I have to do to make this app run properly? Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
> 
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> 
>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   As long as you do not exceed your iCloud storage.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 4/15/2019 2:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to different folders 
>>> etc?
>>> I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> >
>>> Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 3:11 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes
>>> I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which platform since 
>>> iCloud Drive uses shared folders,
>>> Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 devices 
>>> here. The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.
>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Donna,
 
 Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac &
 windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now
 becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about
 number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for another
 storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy
 to have a storage facility you can share among many devices for
 copying transferring files & folders.
 
 Andrew
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>  >> wrote:
> 
> Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB
>> free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
>>  There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> 
>>   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit
>> (which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an
>> issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.
>> 
>>   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free)
>> that exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>> >
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
>> true?
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Re: Apple watch series 4 question on cellular

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Cellular means that it will take a SIM card. Some providers offer a second SIM 
to work on the same number as your phone and yes they charge extra for that. 
You could get a SIM with another number and that will cost too. As someone else 
as already suggested ask your provider what they offer for a cellular smart 
watch.

The advantage is that you can leave your phone at home and receive and make 
calls from the watch. But it is limited because using cellular eats up the 
battery.

The GPS version means that to receive and make calls you need to have your 
phone close to the watch.

I have only used an Android watch but found it harder to talk to my wrist than 
getting my phone out of my pocket / hand-bag. Although, I know that the Apple 
Watch experience will be a lot better than the Android experience. Especially 
as far as volume.

HTH

> On 15 Apr 2019, at 21:45, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As for Apple watch series 4, I am a little confused. I’m interested in the 44 
> MM watch but I’m not quite clear what they mean by cellular & GPS.  Does it 
> mean it will cost me more to run on top of the monthly payment for my iPhone 
> because it uses cellular?  Or is the use of Apple watch series 4 cellular 
> somehow incorporated into the SIM plan I have for my iPhone?  I’ve been 
> searching for an answer on Apple’s website but it’s not clear on that point 
> at all, which is very annoying because I don’t know which Apple watch series 
> 4 to go for.  I really want the sport type but with a larger display hoping 
> it might be easier to perform gestures on it or use onscreen keyboard.  Any 
> comments, please?
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Apple watch series 4 question on cellular

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I’m guessing someone else will be able to answer your question, but you could 
always give your cellular provider a call and ask them? 

> On 16/04/2019, at 8:45 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As for Apple watch series 4, I am a little confused. I’m interested in the 44 
> MM watch but I’m not quite clear what they mean by cellular & GPS.  Does it 
> mean it will cost me more to run on top of the monthly payment for my iPhone 
> because it uses cellular?  Or is the use of Apple watch series 4 cellular 
> somehow incorporated into the SIM plan I have for my iPhone?  I’ve been 
> searching for an answer on Apple’s website but it’s not clear on that point 
> at all, which is very annoying because I don’t know which Apple watch series 
> 4 to go for.  I really want the sport type but with a larger display hoping 
> it might be easier to perform gestures on it or use onscreen keyboard.  Any 
> comments, please?
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Dropbox Changes

[lenron brown]

they really should have a 5 dollar plan giving you 500 gb and a 2 or 3
dollar plan giving you a couple hundred. someone really needs to
contact them about this.

On 4/15/19, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> I understand that. While things most certainly shouldn't be entirely free, I
> do say there should be more pricing plans. When you're on a fixed income and
> you're paying for other services, $10 a month is a pretty steap price. Not
> only that, but I certainly do not need a terabyte of storage. If they had a
> similar pricing structure like iCloud, I would consider paying for them. But
> unfortunately, that's not the case. This is why I'm trying to figure out
> this PCloud thing and while Jessica's suggestion is ok for others, I don't
> want the app on my phone. I work on my Mac most of the time. So I'm asking
> this again, what do I have to do to be able to share files? It's not showing
> up in the share menu.
>
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>
> Want to join my Whatsapp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts or Accessibility
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>
>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:19 PM, Maurice Mines 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello, a point of clarification here. The restriction on devices is for
>> quote free accounts only. Those of us who have paid for dropbox are not
>> affected in any way shape or form. So while this thread goes on, and on.
>> Remember the state quote discussion about free services if you want free
>> you get nothing. There is no such thing as a free lunch ever! If you want
>> service, unfortunately you must pay for the service. I know I may sound
>> harsh and nasty but that’s the answer I got dropbox. They will try to
>> address the concerns about things such as blindness specific applications
>> that link to their service. In the next release. But that fixable only be
>> for paid customers. I think all the other services will adopt similar
>> policies to dropbox. Unfortunately this is a capitalist system. I think
>> I’ve said enough on this one. Please do not send me flaming emails they
>> won’t be read they will just simply be deleted. For the record, I don’t
>> work for nor do I have any financial relationship with dropbox other than
>> what a normal customer would have.
>>
>> 73 from kd0iko.
>>
>> On 14 Apr 2019, at 1:39, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>
>> Donna,
>>
>> Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac & windows
>> machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now becoming a
>> bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about number of devices
>> connected and I don’t really want to pay for another storage sharing
>> service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy to have a storage
>> facility you can share among many devices for copying transferring files &
>> folders.
>>
>> Andrew
>>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>
 On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
 >>> > wrote:

 Hi,

 There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB
 free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.  There's
 also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.

 Later...

 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
 >>> > wrote:

   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit
 (which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an
 issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.

   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free) that
 exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
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 in the past. What if it were true?

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Apple watch series 4 question on cellular

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

As for Apple watch series 4, I am a little confused. I’m interested in the 44 
MM watch but I’m not quite clear what they mean by cellular & GPS.  Does it 
mean it will cost me more to run on top of the monthly payment for my iPhone 
because it uses cellular?  Or is the use of Apple watch series 4 cellular 
somehow incorporated into the SIM plan I have for my iPhone?  I’ve been 
searching for an answer on Apple’s website but it’s not clear on that point at 
all, which is very annoying because I don’t know which Apple watch series 4 to 
go for.  I really want the sport type but with a larger display hoping it might 
be easier to perform gestures on it or use onscreen keyboard.  Any comments, 
please?

Andrew

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Re: Dropbox Changes

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

I understand that. While things most certainly shouldn't be entirely free, I do 
say there should be more pricing plans. When you're on a fixed income and 
you're paying for other services, $10 a month is a pretty steap price. Not only 
that, but I certainly do not need a terabyte of storage. If they had a similar 
pricing structure like iCloud, I would consider paying for them. But 
unfortunately, that's not the case. This is why I'm trying to figure out this 
PCloud thing and while Jessica's suggestion is ok for others, I don't want the 
app on my phone. I work on my Mac most of the time. So I'm asking this again, 
what do I have to do to be able to share files? It's not showing up in the 
share menu.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Want to join my Whatsapp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts or Accessibility 
Matters? Send me a private email with your contact information and I'll happily 
add you.

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:19 PM, Maurice Mines  wrote:
> 
> Hello, a point of clarification here. The restriction on devices is for quote 
> free accounts only. Those of us who have paid for dropbox are not affected in 
> any way shape or form. So while this thread goes on, and on. Remember the 
> state quote discussion about free services if you want free you get nothing. 
> There is no such thing as a free lunch ever! If you want service, 
> unfortunately you must pay for the service. I know I may sound harsh and 
> nasty but that’s the answer I got dropbox. They will try to address the 
> concerns about things such as blindness specific applications that link to 
> their service. In the next release. But that fixable only be for paid 
> customers. I think all the other services will adopt similar policies to 
> dropbox. Unfortunately this is a capitalist system. I think I’ve said enough 
> on this one. Please do not send me flaming emails they won’t be read they 
> will just simply be deleted. For the record, I don’t work for nor do I have 
> any financial relationship with dropbox other than what a normal customer 
> would have.
> 
> 73 from kd0iko.
> 
> On 14 Apr 2019, at 1:39, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> 
> Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac & windows 
> machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now becoming a bit 
> difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about number of devices 
> connected and I don’t really want to pay for another storage sharing service 
> when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy to have a storage facility you 
> can share among many devices for copying transferring files & folders.
> 
> Andrew
>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB free.  
>>> I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.  There's also 
>>> pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit (which 
>>> is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an issue if I 
>>> want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.
>>> 
>>>   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free) that 
>>> exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.
>>> 
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Re: Dropbox Changes

[Petrus Tuerlings]

See, now I find that interesting. I can’t really complain about download 
speeds. I noticed comments on different lists stating how long the IOS 12.2  
and the latest Mac OS took to download and install. But honestly, it only took 
about 10 or 15 minutes on the iPhone to download and install. The Mac took 
about the same time. I used to get very slow uploads when using Dropbox, b but 
haven’t tried it for a couple of years now. 

> On 15/04/2019, at 9:20 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> ET,
> 
> You don't know what our internet connections are like,
> 
> Snails can move faster.
> 
> 
> I have gigabit internet and things still take dialup speed times to download. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 9:22 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes
> 
>Seconds mere seconds.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 4/14/2019 2:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> Thanks ET,
>> Now downloading it, how long it will take ai have know idea.
>> 
>>> On 15/04/2019, at 8:47 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Unlike the iPhone, you can get many Mac apps directly from app 
>>> developers. Dropbox link is below.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> 
>>> On 4/14/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
 Hi all,
 Thought I could ask this in the current thread as it has to do with 
 Drop Box.
 Is there an App for Drop Box on the Mac or are you using the Web? I 
 have the Drop Box App on my iPhone, but couldn’t find one in the Mac 
 App Store?
 Sorry for asking a silly question.
> On 15/04/2019, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  
> > wrote:
> 
> And, as someone mentioned, you can always share from within the 
> document, at least in Pages.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2019, at 12:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>  Well I got the idea that its not as simple as Dropbox but that is 
>> because I am used to DB. Got acquainted with the Files app this 
>> morning on the iPhone. Might like having 5gigs free as opposed to 
>> 2gigs on DB.
>> 
>>  I generally only share between devices but did see how one shares 
>> with people on all 3 platforms. Not too bad
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
>> were true?
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>> On 4/13/2019 7:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hey ET,
>>> iCloud works great under Windows.  I just like it b/c it's super 
>>> easy.  You store a file there, and you can access it on your Mac, 
>>> your phone--using Files, and for me, my PC.  I guess I just like 
>>> the interface better than either google or Dropbox.  But Ryan is 
>>> right, if you need to share the file link with others, it isn't a 
>>> good option.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> 
 > wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
  That is how I use Dropbox. I also keep my shopping list there 
 and bring it up at the store.
 
  But I still run Windows as well. I suppose iCloud Drive will 
 not play there? Still, I should set it up and see why you like 
 it so much, huh. :)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 
 Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
 were true?
 
 On 4/13/2019 6:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> No, it is not.  I had forgotten about that.  I have a dropbox 
> account but never use it.  But then I'm mostly just sharing 
> files between my own devices.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Ryan Mann 
>> > 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna.  Google Drive and Dropbox have easy ways to share 
>> links to files.  In 

Re: Dropbox Changes

[Maurice Mines]

 Hello, a point of clarification here. The restriction on devices is 
for quote free accounts only. Those of us who have paid for dropbox are 
not affected in any way shape or form. So while this thread goes on, and 
on. Remember the state quote discussion about free services if you want 
free you get nothing. There is no such thing as a free lunch ever! If 
you want service, unfortunately you must pay for the service. I know I 
may sound harsh and nasty but that’s the answer I got dropbox. They 
will try to address the concerns about things such as blindness specific 
applications that link to their service. In the next release. But that 
fixable only be for paid customers. I think all the other services will 
adopt similar policies to dropbox. Unfortunately this is a capitalist 
system. I think I’ve said enough on this one. Please do not send me 
flaming emails they won’t be read they will just simply be deleted. 
For the record, I don’t work for nor do I have any financial 
relationship with dropbox other than what a normal customer would have.


73  from kd0iko.

On 14 Apr 2019, at 1:39, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Donna,

Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac & 
windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now 
becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about 
number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for 
another storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s 
so handy to have a storage facility you can share among many devices 
for copying transferring files & folders.


Andrew
On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
Donna


On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi,

There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB 
free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.  
There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit 
(which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an 
issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.


  So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free) 
that exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.


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Re: PCloud Was Re: Dropbox Changes

[Jessica Moss]

I think the fastest way to do this, is to have the app on your phone as well, 
then from there, you just select what you want, locate the share button next to 
the item you want to share, then select how you want to share it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:08 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys. So I just installed PCloud on my Mac. I'm about ready to dump my 
> Dropbox because of all the stupid things that they're doing. I'm just running 
> into a big snag however. I just put a file in the PCloud Drive folder and I 
> want to share a link to the file with someone. However, there's no option to 
> do so. What do I have to do to make this app run properly? Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
> 
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>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>   As long as you do not exceed your iCloud storage.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 4/15/2019 2:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to different folders 
>>> etc?
>>> I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 3:11 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes
>>> I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which platform since 
>>> iCloud Drive uses shared folders,
>>> Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 devices 
>>> here. The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.
>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
 On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Donna,
 
 Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac &
 windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now
 becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about
 number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for another
 storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy
 to have a storage facility you can share among many devices for
 copying transferring files & folders.
 
 Andrew
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>  > wrote:
> 
> Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB
>> free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
>>  There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>>   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit
>> (which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an
>> issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.
>> 
>>   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free)
>> that exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.
>> 
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PCloud Was Re: Dropbox Changes

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

Hey guys. So I just installed PCloud on my Mac. I'm about ready to dump my 
Dropbox because of all the stupid things that they're doing. I'm just running 
into a big snag however. I just put a file in the PCloud Drive folder and I 
want to share a link to the file with someone. However, there's no option to do 
so. What do I have to do to make this app run properly? Thanks.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Want to join my Whatsapp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts or Accessibility 
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> On Apr 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   As long as you do not exceed your iCloud storage.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 4/15/2019 2:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to different folders 
>> etc?
>> I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 3:11 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes
>> I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which platform since 
>> iCloud Drive uses shared folders,
>> Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 devices 
>> here. The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Donna,
>>> 
>>> Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac &
>>> windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now
>>> becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about
>>> number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for another
>>> storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy
>>> to have a storage facility you can share among many devices for
>>> copying transferring files & folders.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
 Donna
 
 
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB
> free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
>  There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>  > wrote:
> 
>   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit
> (which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an
> issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.
> 
>   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free)
> that exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
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> true?
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Re: Moving email files (.EML) from dropbox to mail programI have a folder in my dropbox of old email files (. ML) that I want to put into the Mail app for easier reading. I can’t seem to copy these fi

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Phil,

there’s no way to importeml files on your iPhone into Mail. 

You could either import them on a Mac using Mail and importing them via IMAP or 
use eml viewer to open eml files from your Dropbox on iPhone:

https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/eml-viewer/id1232389519?mt=8 


This is a link from the german app store. Don’t knwo if that works. But just 
look for eml viewer and you should find it easily.

All the best
Jürgen


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Moving email files (.EML) from dropbox to mail programI have a folder in my dropbox of old email files (. ML) that I want to put into the Mail app for easier reading. I can’t seem to copy these files

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A severe Skype issue, Please help

[Bill Holton]

The version of Skype I have been using will nerve longer except my password, 
despite it being the very same password I use to login on my phone. I have 
tried changing the password. Phone works fine, Mac mini does not. When I update 
Skype, still not logging in, and there is no accessibility to any of the 
screens. I am running the latest macOS. It’s a Mac mini. Any help much 
appreciated. I need to record an interview tomorrow, want to use call recorder

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Re: Safari

[Angus MacKinnon]

Jonathan

Thank you. Where do I finfd the cookies? I have looked for the cookies you 
speak of.

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Re: Dropbox Changes

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   As long as you do not exceed your iCloud storage.

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On 4/15/2019 2:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to different folders etc?

I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos


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 I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which platform since 
iCloud Drive uses shared folders,

 Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 devices here. 
The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.

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On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Donna,

Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac &
windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now
becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about
number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for another
storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy
to have a storage facility you can share among many devices for
copying transferring files & folders.

Andrew

On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
Donna



On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB
free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
  There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit
(which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an
issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.

   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free)
that exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.

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Re: Safari

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

I believe this is something to do with cookies. If you delete all the cookies 
from Amazon in Safari, then you will probably get back to the full site. I 
haven’t personally played with this, but I have some memory of others fighting 
Amazon accessible mode. .
> On Apr 14, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:
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> 
> Thank you. I am also trying to figure out why Amazon.ca  
> gives a very minimal web page in Safari and a complete web page in Google 
> Chrome and/or a friends computer
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Re: Not All Apple Stores are Created Equally (Smile)

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, if this makes you want to go to Hawaii and you have a guide dog, you 
won’t want to miss Vickie Kennedy’s talk tonight on what you need to know 
before going to Hawaii. Reply to this thread if you are interested, and I will 
forward details to you from the GDB-PAWS mailing list.
Jonathan Cohn 
> On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:23 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I just returned from a short vacation to Hawaii.  
> 
> While there, I discovered that there is an Apple Store located in the
> beautiful Royal Hawaiian Hotel and Resort down at Waikiki Beach. 
> 
> Wow!  To say that the customer service was world class would be the
> understatement of the highest degree.  
> 
> Now I've never been to any of Apple's flagship stores, here on the mainland,
> but I'll bet, beans to bacon, that the Royal Hawaiian location mirrors them,
> precisely, in terms of enthusiasm, class, and that ineffable quality that
> sets Apple apart from other tech companies.  
> 
> As for the Apple representatives?  Well, they were the most attentive and
> gracious employees I've yet to encounter at any Apple Store.  In fact, I was
> so impressed that I actually visited the store twice, just to see if my
> initial impression was accurate; and yes, it was, indeed. 
> 
> Now when I travel, I like to purchase products from significant store
> locations.  For example, I have purchased items from the first Starbucks
> store, the first Nordstrom store, Amazon Go, etc.  
> 
> So of course I had to buy something from the Royal Hawaiian  Apple Store
> because I may never get that way, again.  The problem is that I couldn't
> think of anything I needed, (smile).
> 
> In the end, I decided to buy a secondary iPad charger for my new iPad Pro.
> I am using it to more rapidly charge my beloved iPHone 8 Plus.
> 
> While all of my local Apple stores are great places to explore the world of
> Apple, I can definitely say that the Royal Hawaiian location is a cut above
> and has forever changed my idea of what world class customer service looks
> and feels like.
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> I loved Hawaii but, as the saying goes, there's no place like home.
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> Aloha, 
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Re: More on my Vmware Problem.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I haven’t had time an strength to fiddle around with this but will do that 
later this week.
I have uninstalled Vmware and will reinstall it again.
/A

> 12 apr. 2019 kl. 21:33 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
>   You found it. Ok did you uninstall and reinstall? Did you contact VMware 
> support? So you have a backup of the VM?
> 
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>> Hi!
>> In what category of the privacy category?
>> There are some more there then just privacy.
>> Its already alowed where i see vmware by the way.
>> /A
>>> 12 apr. 2019 kl. 17:14 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Anders.
>>>   Just go to system prefs, security category, privacy tab, then navigate to 
>>> the table to allow apps to control your computer and find VMware. Click the 
>>> lock to make changes.
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>>> On 4/12/2019 7:40 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
 Hi!
 It seems not to help but i can do that just to see what happens.
 I saw someone resolved the problem by removing and reinstalling Vmware and 
 run the Vm again.
 There seems to be something with the allow things for vmware in the 
 securityh settings that’s broken.
 It happend when i updated to the latest version.
 Really crappy i think.
 /A
> 12 apr. 2019 kl. 02:17 skrev  
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> Hi,  What happens after you reboot the machine?  I get this from time to 
> time and a restart usually fixes this.
> 
> Matthew
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> 
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> Hi!
> Here is the message i get when i Click on the vinux 5.1 i want to start.
> Cannot find a valid peer process to connect to This comes up in a Dialog 
> and i click ok.
> THe bundle is quite big so i don’t know what’s up?
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Re: Ipad mini 4 Stuck in Icloud login.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Actually i did not thought of the sollution you gave.
But  i gave it a try and you were right of corse.


> 12 apr. 2019 kl. 18:29 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would not log out yet.  First, on your iPhone, make sure that Text Message 
> Forwarding is enabled for the iPad.  This is found in Settings, Messages.  
> Hand-Off really is not a factor in this process.  Also, in your iCloud 
> settings, turn on Messages in iCloud.  This is not totally necessary, but it 
> allows messages to sync across all devices by keeping message history in the 
> Cloud.  This is useful for syncing older messages so that you have the entire 
> thread.  Why is this important you ask?  Because if your iPad has been off 
> the grid and missed any messages, these will not be included in your message 
> threads without this feature enabled.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 08:02, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> It seems i was logged in but i don’t get any messages to that Ipad mini.
> I will do another try to see whats happen.
> Will log out and then back in again.
> I guess things sometimes can get cranky which means you have to try again.
> Thanks for your help as always.
> /A
> 
>> 11 apr. 2019 kl. 23:42 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It shouldn't take that long.  Try closing Settings like you've suggested.  
>> If that doesn't handle it, power it down, then start it back up to see what 
>> happens.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2019, at 15:38, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I have had problems getting messages to work on my Ipad mini 4.
>> All other devices gets messages even though hands on is turned on on my Ipad 
>> mini 4 it does not come any messages.
>> But all calls come through.
>> SO i decided to log out of Icloud and i powered off the Mini 4 and back on 
>> again.
>> I went to settings and the login your  Ipad mini.
>> I typed in the AppleId and Password and then the verification code.
>> Then it asked me for the passcode and i typed that in.
>> Now after 10 minutes my Ipad is at the In progress part and i don’t see if 
>> its trying to login or what it actually does.
>> I see the enter passcode field but that’s not availlable and i see that 
>> there’s digits there but of corse i can’t see the digits.
>> So i really don’t know if i should remove settings from the app switcher and 
>> start over or if i should wait.
>> Any thoughts?
>> /A
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Re: Dropbox Changes

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Simon,

iCloud is basically just a folder.  You can organize it however you want.  So 
you could have a folder for books one for music, etc.
Best,
Donna


> On Apr 15, 2019, at 4:15 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to different folders 
> etc?
> 
> I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes
> 
>I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which platform since 
> iCloud Drive uses shared folders,
> 
>Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 devices here. 
> The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.
> 
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> On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Donna,
>> 
>> Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac & 
>> windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now 
>> becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about 
>> number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for another 
>> storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy 
>> to have a storage facility you can share among many devices for 
>> copying transferring files & folders.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
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 >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB 
 free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
  There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
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 >>> > wrote:
 
   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit 
 (which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an 
 issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.
 
   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free) 
 that exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.
 
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RE: Not All Apple Stores are Created Equally (Smile)

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

Glad to hear you had a great experience.

 I'd love to know 2 things,

Firstly if you ever come to newzealand  will you find an apple store to shop in?

And secondly, what's an apple store?

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Subject: Not All Apple Stores are Created Equally (Smile)

Hello Everyone,

I just returned from a short vacation to Hawaii.  

While there, I discovered that there is an Apple Store located in the beautiful 
Royal Hawaiian Hotel and Resort down at Waikiki Beach. 

Wow!  To say that the customer service was world class would be the 
understatement of the highest degree.  

Now I've never been to any of Apple's flagship stores, here on the mainland, 
but I'll bet, beans to bacon, that the Royal Hawaiian location mirrors them, 
precisely, in terms of enthusiasm, class, and that ineffable quality that sets 
Apple apart from other tech companies.  

As for the Apple representatives?  Well, they were the most attentive and 
gracious employees I've yet to encounter at any Apple Store.  In fact, I was so 
impressed that I actually visited the store twice, just to see if my initial 
impression was accurate; and yes, it was, indeed. 

Now when I travel, I like to purchase products from significant store 
locations.  For example, I have purchased items from the first Starbucks store, 
the first Nordstrom store, Amazon Go, etc.  

So of course I had to buy something from the Royal Hawaiian  Apple Store 
because I may never get that way, again.  The problem is that I couldn't think 
of anything I needed, (smile).

In the end, I decided to buy a secondary iPad charger for my new iPad Pro.
I am using it to more rapidly charge my beloved iPHone 8 Plus.

While all of my local Apple stores are great places to explore the world of 
Apple, I can definitely say that the Royal Hawaiian location is a cut above and 
has forever changed my idea of what world class customer service looks and 
feels like.

I loved Hawaii but, as the saying goes, there's no place like home.

Aloha, 

Mark 


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RE: Dropbox Changes

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah ET,

We kiwis are bloody tough,
We don't fly we run / walk everywhere,
And shaving or pulling out our hair saves time and helps keep the sun on us.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 1:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes

I knew you would get there, good work. You shave your head? Not your face? 
Intriguing. :)

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On 4/14/2019 6:15 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
> Thanks ET,
> Please ignore my last message as I think I’ve found it. I was correct, 
> it was my old windows 7 machine and the old iPhone that I gave to my 
> sister. I should be able to link my Mac now.
> At least I couldn’t pull out my hair as I shave it off anyway.
> 
>> On 15/04/2019, at 12:29 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>>
>>   You can take care of this from the Dropbox web site where you can 
>> log into your account.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>>
>> On 4/14/2019 5:07 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>> Hi again,
>>> I managed to install Drop Box, however I’m unable to sign in with my
>>>   Mac as I’m already linked up with three devices. I know one of 
>>> them is my old windows machine that I’m not even sure if it will 
>>> still boot up? I can’t think what the other device is,  unless it is 
>>> my old iPhone 5s that I reset to factory settings and gave to my sister.
>>>  And there is the drop box app on my iPhone 8+.   Is there a way I 
>>> can unlink devices from the web -site?
>>> Petrus
 On 15/04/2019, at 9:21 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> 
 > wrote:

   Seconds mere seconds.

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 Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
 true?

 On 4/14/2019 2:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
> Thanks ET,
> Now downloading it, how long it will take ai have know idea.
>> On 15/04/2019, at 8:47 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>   Unlike the iPhone, you can get many Mac apps directly from app 
>> developers. Dropbox link is below.
>>
>> 
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>  
>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
>> were true?
>>
>> On 4/14/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Thought I could ask this in the current thread as it has to do 
>>> with Drop Box.
>>> Is there an App for Drop Box on the Mac or are you using the Web? 
>>> I have the Drop Box App on my iPhone, but couldn’t find one in 
>>> the Mac App Store?
>>> Sorry for asking a silly question.
 On 15/04/2019, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> 
 
 
 > wrote:

 And, as someone mentioned, you can always share from within the 
 document, at least in Pages.
 Cheers,
 Donna


> On Apr 14, 2019, at 12:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  
> 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>  Well I got the idea that its not as simple as Dropbox but 
> that is because I am used to DB. Got acquainted with the Files 
> app this morning on the iPhone. Might like having 5gigs free 
> as opposed to 2gigs on DB.
>
>  I generally only share between devices but did see how one 
> shares with people on all 3 platforms. Not too bad
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> 
> 
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
> were true?
>
> On 4/13/2019 7:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via 

RE: Dropbox Changes

[Simon Fogarty]

ET,

You don't know what our internet connections are like,

 Snails can move faster.


I have gigabit internet and things still take dialup speed times to download. 

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 9:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes

Seconds mere seconds.

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On 4/14/2019 2:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
> Thanks ET,
> Now downloading it, how long it will take ai have know idea.
> 
>> On 15/04/2019, at 8:47 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>>
>>   Unlike the iPhone, you can get many Mac apps directly from app 
>> developers. Dropbox link is below.
>>
>> 
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>>
>> On 4/14/2019 12:42 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Thought I could ask this in the current thread as it has to do with 
>>> Drop Box.
>>> Is there an App for Drop Box on the Mac or are you using the Web? I 
>>> have the Drop Box App on my iPhone, but couldn’t find one in the Mac 
>>> App Store?
>>> Sorry for asking a silly question.
 On 15/04/2019, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> 
 > wrote:

 And, as someone mentioned, you can always share from within the 
 document, at least in Pages.
 Cheers,
 Donna


> On Apr 14, 2019, at 12:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  
> > wrote:
>
>  Well I got the idea that its not as simple as Dropbox but that is 
> because I am used to DB. Got acquainted with the Files app this 
> morning on the iPhone. Might like having 5gigs free as opposed to 
> 2gigs on DB.
>
>  I generally only share between devices but did see how one shares 
> with people on all 3 platforms. Not too bad
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
> were true?
>
> On 4/13/2019 7:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hey ET,
>> iCloud works great under Windows.  I just like it b/c it's super 
>> easy.  You store a file there, and you can access it on your Mac, 
>> your phone--using Files, and for me, my PC.  I guess I just like 
>> the interface better than either google or Dropbox.  But Ryan is 
>> right, if you need to share the file link with others, it isn't a 
>> good option.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>  That is how I use Dropbox. I also keep my shopping list there 
>>> and bring it up at the store.
>>>
>>>  But I still run Windows as well. I suppose iCloud Drive will 
>>> not play there? Still, I should set it up and see why you like 
>>> it so much, huh. :)
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
>>> were true?
>>>
>>> On 4/13/2019 6:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 No, it is not.  I had forgotten about that.  I have a dropbox 
 account but never use it.  But then I'm mostly just sharing 
 files between my own devices.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Ryan Mann 
>  
> 
> > wrote:
>
> Hello Donna.  Google Drive and Dropbox have easy ways to share 
> links to files.  In Dropbox, you right-click on the file, hit 
> the Applications key/ Shift F10 in Windows and probably Vo 
> Shift M on the Mac.  After you bring up the context menu, 
> there is an option to copy link.  I didn’t remember this being 
> available with iCloud drive.  Is it?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Why not use 

RE: Dropbox Changes

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Petrus,

There use to be but that was a couple of years back,

I can only assume it is still available.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 7:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes

Hi all,
Thought I could ask this in the current thread as it has to do with Drop Box.
Is there an App for Drop Box on the Mac or are you using the Web? I have the 
Drop Box App on my iPhone, but couldn’t find one in the Mac App Store?
Sorry for asking a silly question.


On 15/04/2019, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

And, as someone mentioned, you can always share from within the document, at 
least in Pages.
Cheers,
Donna



On Apr 14, 2019, at 12:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

 Well I got the idea that its not as simple as Dropbox but that is because I am 
used to DB. Got acquainted with the Files app this morning on the iPhone. Might 
like having 5gigs free as opposed to 2gigs on DB.

 I generally only share between devices but did see how one shares with people 
on all 3 platforms. Not too bad

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On 4/13/2019 7:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hey ET,
iCloud works great under Windows.  I just like it b/c it's super easy.  You 
store a file there, and you can access it on your Mac, your phone--using Files, 
and for me, my PC.  I guess I just like the interface better than either google 
or Dropbox.  But Ryan is right, if you need to share the file link with others, 
it isn't a good option.
Cheers,
Donna

On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna,
 That is how I use Dropbox. I also keep my shopping list there and bring it up 
at the store.

 But I still run Windows as well. I suppose iCloud Drive will not play there? 
Still, I should set it up and see why you like it so much, huh. :)

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On 4/13/2019 6:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

No, it is not.  I had forgotten about that.  I have a dropbox account but never 
use it.  But then I'm mostly just sharing files between my own devices.
Cheers,
Donna

On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> 
> wrote:

Hello Donna.  Google Drive and Dropbox have easy ways to share links to files.  
In Dropbox, you right-click on the file, hit the Applications key/ Shift F10 in 
Windows and probably Vo Shift M on the Mac.  After you bring up the context 
menu, there is an option to copy link.  I didn’t remember this being available 
with iCloud drive.  Is it?


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:


Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
Donna



On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:

Hi,

There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB free.  I'm 
not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.  There's also pCloud 
that's pretty good and accessible.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:

 Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit (which is 
three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an issue if I want to 
add a new device or if I unlink a current one.

 So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free) that exist? 
For Windows, Mac, and iOS.

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RE: Dropbox Changes

[Simon Fogarty]

There is also one drive from ms that isn't bad to use either.

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 6:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes

And, as someone mentioned, you can always share from within the document, at 
least in Pages.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 14, 2019, at 12:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Well I got the idea that its not as simple as Dropbox but that is because I 
> am used to DB. Got acquainted with the Files app this morning on the iPhone. 
> Might like having 5gigs free as opposed to 2gigs on DB.
> 
>   I generally only share between devices but did see how one shares 
> with people on all 3 platforms. Not too bad
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 4/13/2019 7:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hey ET,
>> iCloud works great under Windows.  I just like it b/c it's super easy.  You 
>> store a file there, and you can access it on your Mac, your phone--using 
>> Files, and for me, my PC.  I guess I just like the interface better than 
>> either google or Dropbox.  But Ryan is right, if you need to share the file 
>> link with others, it isn't a good option.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>   That is how I use Dropbox. I also keep my shopping list there and bring 
>>> it up at the store.
>>> 
>>>   But I still run Windows as well. I suppose iCloud Drive will not 
>>> play there? Still, I should set it up and see why you like it so 
>>> much, huh. :)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> 
>>> On 4/13/2019 6:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 No, it is not.  I had forgotten about that.  I have a dropbox account but 
 never use it.  But then I'm mostly just sharing files between my own 
 devices.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Ryan Mann  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna.  Google Drive and Dropbox have easy ways to share links to 
> files.  In Dropbox, you right-click on the file, hit the Applications 
> key/ Shift F10 in Windows and probably Vo Shift M on the Mac.  After you 
> bring up the context menu, there is an option to copy link.  I didn’t 
> remember this being available with iCloud drive.  Is it?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:08 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
>> Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB 
>>> free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.  
>>> There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit 
>>> (which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an 
>>> issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.
>>> 
>>>   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free) that 
>>> exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.
>>> 
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RE: Dropbox Changes

[Simon Fogarty]

In iCloud can you set it to save different media types to different folders etc?

I've got a lot of music and audio books but next to no photos 


-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 3:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox Changes

I would imagine that storage is good regardless of which platform since 
iCloud Drive uses shared folders,

Do not unlink any devices and you are safe. Dropbox is on 5 devices here. 
The limit is 3 but unless I unlink any of them its good.

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On 4/14/2019 1:39 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Donna,
> 
> Can you use iCloud storage on Windows side too?  I have both mac & 
> windows machines & having used dropbox for many years Dropbox is now 
> becoming a bit difficult as I’ve recently received warnings about 
> number of devices connected and I don’t really want to pay for another 
> storage sharing service when I already pay for iCloud. It’s so handy 
> to have a storage facility you can share among many devices for 
> copying transferring files & folders.
> 
> Andrew
>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 2:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> Why not use iCloud?  I use it and love it.
>> Donna
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There's always Google Drive of which the basic one allows for 15 GB 
>>> free.  I'm not sure of a device limit as I've never reached it.
>>>  There's also pCloud that's pretty good and accessible.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 20:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>   Just got an email from Dropbox stating I have exceeded the limit 
>>> (which is three) for the Basic plan. I have 5. That would only be an 
>>> issue if I want to add a new device or if I unlink a current one.
>>>
>>>   So just curious. What are the other file sharing services (free) 
>>> that exist? For Windows, Mac, and iOS.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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RE: Exercise & Apple watch

[Simon Fogarty]

I've never been able to get my watch to do distance.
Time hr have been all I really get from it which is why I use a distance & 
cadence monitor with external heart rate monitor and my iPod.

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 1:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Exercise & Apple watch

Hi Andrew,

I use my watch to work out on an elliptical machine.  It shows me calories, 
length of time, and heart-rate, so yes, you can use the watch for that.  When I 
use the watch for an indoor walk or run, it does show me distance, too, so I 
would think it would do the same for a stationary bike, though I'm not sure how 
it would measure it.  Try starting a work-out, and choosing in-door cycling, 
and see what happens.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 14, 2019, at 7:49 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have started working out on a stationary bike.  I was wondering if Apple 
> watch could help me know while exercising the various parameters sighted 
> people can see on the display in front of them, i.e. heart rate, distance, 
> speed, calories burnt etc.  Do people on the list having Apple watch find it 
> useful in this regard?  I’d appreciate your experience.
> 
> Andrew
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RE: Exercise & Apple watch

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes I used my watch for similar things however I always questioned the results 
as they differed to that of my cadence and heart rate meters which I peared 
through my iPod touch on my bike.

 I used an app called wahoo fitness  which worked with a number of different 
devices 

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From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2019 12:50 AM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Exercise & Apple watch

Hi,

I have started working out on a stationary bike.  I was wondering if Apple 
watch could help me know while exercising the various parameters sighted people 
can see on the display in front of them, i.e. heart rate, distance, speed, 
calories burnt etc.  Do people on the list having Apple watch find it useful in 
this regard?  I’d appreciate your experience.

Andrew

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Re: Not All Apple Stores are Created Equally (Smile)

[Charlie Doremus]

Mark,

As someone who has lived in Hawaii for 20 years and, for a time, three blocks 
from the Royal Hawaiian Apple store you speak of I must first wholeheartedly 
agree with your impression of the store. Many good times spent purchasing 
products and learning to use said products. As a matter of correction the store 
is not part of the Royal Hawaiian Hotel it is in fact a stand along located in 
the Royal Hawaiian Shopping Center not far from The Cheesecake Factory. 

I have sent you kind words to a friend who works there. 

Aloha,

Charlie 

> On Apr 14, 2019, at 6:23 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I just returned from a short vacation to Hawaii.  
> 
> While there, I discovered that there is an Apple Store located in the
> beautiful Royal Hawaiian Hotel and Resort down at Waikiki Beach. 
> 
> Wow!  To say that the customer service was world class would be the
> understatement of the highest degree.  
> 
> Now I've never been to any of Apple's flagship stores, here on the mainland,
> but I'll bet, beans to bacon, that the Royal Hawaiian location mirrors them,
> precisely, in terms of enthusiasm, class, and that ineffable quality that
> sets Apple apart from other tech companies.  
> 
> As for the Apple representatives?  Well, they were the most attentive and
> gracious employees I've yet to encounter at any Apple Store.  In fact, I was
> so impressed that I actually visited the store twice, just to see if my
> initial impression was accurate; and yes, it was, indeed. 
> 
> Now when I travel, I like to purchase products from significant store
> locations.  For example, I have purchased items from the first Starbucks
> store, the first Nordstrom store, Amazon Go, etc.  
> 
> So of course I had to buy something from the Royal Hawaiian  Apple Store
> because I may never get that way, again.  The problem is that I couldn't
> think of anything I needed, (smile).
> 
> In the end, I decided to buy a secondary iPad charger for my new iPad Pro.
> I am using it to more rapidly charge my beloved iPHone 8 Plus.
> 
> While all of my local Apple stores are great places to explore the world of
> Apple, I can definitely say that the Royal Hawaiian location is a cut above
> and has forever changed my idea of what world class customer service looks
> and feels like.
> 
> I loved Hawaii but, as the saying goes, there's no place like home.
> 
> Aloha, 
> 
> Mark 
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