Re: Buying a mac: back to the drawing board

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Personally I’d go for the bigger oomf, but that is just my opinion. I see it as 
more future proofing, I’m certainly not an expert. But I do remember getting my 
first iPhone and going for the smaller memory and regretting it later. I 
probably got more power than I need with my MacBook now, but I might need it 
later.  And if it is a reasonable price then I’d go for it. 

> On 2/06/2019, at 2:52 PM, B G  wrote:
> 
> apple have just confirmed the refund for the MacBook by email. I
> decided that a mac Mini would meet my use-cases more wholesomely than
> a MacBook. Initially the plan was to stick to the same hardware
> parameters - 16GB ram, 256GB ssd and an i5 processor. The nice man
> from Apple however is offering me a much more impressive machine for a
> very reasonable price. it has a 32GB ram, 256GB ssd and an i7
> processor. yes, plenty oomf there ladies and gentlemen but my question
> is, do I need that much power given what I would use it for? To recap,
> my two main use-cases are: (a) running copies of MS Windows
> simultaneously on VMWare Fusion and (b) programming for Mac OS and
> iOS.  At a later date I might even decide to load it with Logic pro
> and N.I. for making music, but that really is not a priority at this
> point in time.
> In short, will a machine of that description offer marked, significant
> improvement over one with the specification I previously had in mind?
> Thoughts from everyone and specially the more experienced hacks would
> be gratefully received.
> Incidentally, I am typing this in the web box which offers me no
> spell-check; so apologies for any spelling error.
> With thanks, Benji
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Re: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Interesting, I find Ripping something with iTunes really really easy and I hope 
it is just as easy with whatever they replace it with. 

> On 2/06/2019, at 1:42 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Itunes has never been a problem for me exept when i have to rip something.
> BUt maybe and hopfully the new app will be easier.
> /A
> 
>> 31 maj 2019 kl. 21:15 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>>  And just when I have become quite intimate with iTunes, spent a lot of time 
>> tweaking my music and am now satisfied.
>> 
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>> On 5/31/2019 12:00 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Wow! I never thought I'd see the day.  Definitely watching WWDC on Monday.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 31, 2019, at 1:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
  Yup. I may try to "attend" WWDC next week. A week or so ago, there was a 
 change on my Apple TV 3rd when I found the Computers app relegated to the 
 bottom and I found myself in the TV app. Probably part of the change. I 
 think too I will spend much more time in the 10.15 beta when its released 
 next month and come up t speed on this.
 
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 On 5/31/2019 11:32 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> Interesting indeed.  I wonder if Audio Books will remain in the Music app 
> or if they will update the Books app to now handle audio as well.   This 
> announcement should cause a bit of a stir, both from the pro and con 
> sides.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On May 31, 2019, at 12:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years
> 
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Buying a mac: back to the drawing board

[B G]

apple have just confirmed the refund for the MacBook by email. I
decided that a mac Mini would meet my use-cases more wholesomely than
a MacBook. Initially the plan was to stick to the same hardware
parameters - 16GB ram, 256GB ssd and an i5 processor. The nice man
from Apple however is offering me a much more impressive machine for a
very reasonable price. it has a 32GB ram, 256GB ssd and an i7
processor. yes, plenty oomf there ladies and gentlemen but my question
is, do I need that much power given what I would use it for? To recap,
my two main use-cases are: (a) running copies of MS Windows
simultaneously on VMWare Fusion and (b) programming for Mac OS and
iOS.  At a later date I might even decide to load it with Logic pro
and N.I. for making music, but that really is not a priority at this
point in time.
In short, will a machine of that description offer marked, significant
improvement over one with the specification I previously had in mind?
Thoughts from everyone and specially the more experienced hacks would
be gratefully received.
Incidentally, I am typing this in the web box which offers me no
spell-check; so apologies for any spelling error.
With thanks, Benji

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Re: System dialogue displayed?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

What sort of Mac have you got? Do you use a password or Touch ID to unlock your 
Mac? 

> On 2/06/2019, at 1:44 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> Every time I wake my Mac, or Boudet, voiceover tells me, system dialogue 
> displayed.
> 
> But I can’t find any dialogue. Any idea what this might be? Or how do I get 
> focused to this mysterious hidden dialogue?
> 
> Thanks
> JD
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System dialogue displayed?

[John JD Denning]

Every time I wake my Mac, or Boudet, voiceover tells me, system dialogue 
displayed.

But I can’t find any dialogue. Any idea what this might be? Or how do I get 
focused to this mysterious hidden dialogue?

Thanks
JD

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make 2 contacts for personal and business use,

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

I have all my Iphones macs etc, But i am using 1 Iphone for Personal use, and 
the other 1 is for Business, I need to put my contacts on the Business Phone 
are not the same as on my Personal 1, Because on my business i need to add more 
than 5000 Contact, but i need to sync them etc, so
must i use a new Apple ID for this  or what can i do to creat Seprate Contact 
lists?
Thanks in advance 

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Unmountable Partition

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   There are 4 partitions on a USB drive. The one Time Machine uses 
will not mount. The other partitions seem fine but I am unable to eject 
any of them. Other drives work fine.


   First Aid fails and I cannot erase the TM partition. Any way to 
resolve this? Thanks.


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Re: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Best guess are the 3 individual apps that will replace iTunes on the 
Mac. These apps are already on the iDevices.


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On 6/1/2019 12:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

So then what wil be used to get audio material on to a device if it's not in 
your library


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Subject: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years



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Voice Over and annotations in pages.

[Leo Bado]

Hello everyone,

My question is simple:

How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?

I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under the 
view menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level as the 
default verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for something 
in voice over utilities that can be related to comments or annotations 
but I haven’t found anything.


Does someone know how to do this?

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Re: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Itunes has never been a problem for me exept when i have to rip something.
BUt maybe and hopfully the new app will be easier.
/A

> 31 maj 2019 kl. 21:15 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
>   And just when I have become quite intimate with iTunes, spent a lot of time 
> tweaking my music and am now satisfied.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/31/2019 12:00 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Wow! I never thought I'd see the day.  Definitely watching WWDC on Monday.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 1:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Yup. I may try to "attend" WWDC next week. A week or so ago, there was a 
>>> change on my Apple TV 3rd when I found the Computers app relegated to the 
>>> bottom and I found myself in the TV app. Probably part of the change. I 
>>> think too I will spend much more time in the 10.15 beta when its released 
>>> next month and come up t speed on this.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 5/31/2019 11:32 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi,
 Interesting indeed.  I wonder if Audio Books will remain in the Music app 
 or if they will update the Books app to now handle audio as well.   This 
 announcement should cause a bit of a stir, both from the pro and con sides.
 Later...
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
  Jamf Certified Associate
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 On May 31, 2019, at 12:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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Re: New iPod touch announced

['Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I reluctantly bought it. I hope I don’t get buyer’s remorse, even though I’m 
almost sure I will. My problem is that my current iPod is an iPhone 6S Plus, a 
great device at the right size and with Touch ID, but with inadequate storage.  
An iPod Touch is a clear upgrade—or it would be, if not for the loss of Touch 
ID and the smaller size.  But at least it’s grabable, fits on my bedside shelf 
(unlike an iPad Mini), and you don’t need a SIM to activate the bloody thing 
every time.  Plus of course it’s a general-purpose device in a way that the 
iPad or iPhone isn’t, can be used tethered as well as on Wi-Fi, and runs iPhone 
applications I like and in the right format.

Let’s face it, Apple is only keeping the iPod alive for the benefit of existing 
buyers here.  They don’t like it because it stands in the way of their quest 
for world domination through their indispensable iOS devices, like iPhones and 
iPads, for which they don’t want competition from a combination of an iPod with 
some other device.  The Touch is for the kids, and ageing pack rats like 
myself.  And us, of course.

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Re: Accessibility of portable air conditioners

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Have you checked whether any of these are supported by an app? Not that
that would guarantee accessibility, but it might or you might be able to
label a few buttons with Talkback.

Phil Halton writes:
> 
> 
> You know the kind, the ones you roll around from room to room and put a hose 
> kit out a window. Are there any that are particularly accessible over any 
> others? And while we’re at it are there any that are better than others? I’m 
> currently looking at Honeywell products but Black & Decker and others make 
> them as well. Honeywell uses those flat panel, but unless displays, but it 
> has a remote control so I think that would help.Any help appreciated Sent 
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Re: Any Greek speakers on this list?

[Jelal Bairamoglou]

Hello. I use the Greek language and I have no problem with macOS Mojave 10.14.5.
Hold down control option command shift and select the Greek Voice.
Go to VoiceOver settings and select default voice in Greek.
Go to system settings and select the Greek language as default and restart your 
system.
Note:
If you want the Greek to be pronounced correctly, you need to switch the 
language from English to Greek at any one time. Unfortunately, this is a system 
problem that apple needs to know about it.
If you do not like Greek as a system default, you can choose English as the 
default language and restart your computer and you will have a system that 
speaks correctly in Greek.

> On 30 May 2019, at 00:44, B G  wrote:
> 
> Ναι, καταλαβαίνω λίγο ελληνικά.
> But I've just sent the MacBook Air back to be replaced by a Mini soon.
> Ben
> 
> On 5/29/19, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>> If there are any Greek speakers other than myself on this list using Greek
>> voice on the mac in Mojave, could you confirm that the Greek voice hasn’t
>> yet been fixed by Apple although I’ve been reporting this since High Sierra
>> release?  I’m getting desperate as I can’t upgrade to Mojave because of the
>> Greek voice problem.  Apple has been ignoring my bug reports since then.
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: BBC and safari.

[Anne Robertson]

No. I’m in France and haven’t had to do that.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 30 May 2019, at 23:00, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> SO i don’t need to create an account on their site to listen?
> Thanks.
> /A
> 
>> 30 maj 2019 kl. 08:42 skrev Anne Robertson :
>> 
>> I don’t listen to sport on the BBC, but I do listen to Radio4 sometimes. 
>> There is normally a Listen Now link on the page with the day’s schedule.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 May 2019, at 21:02, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Are there any listen live links on the bbc website?
>>> I have now set my vpn to UK so that i can follow there sports but can’t 
>>> find any listen links.
>>> Very frustrating.
>>> /A
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RE: Setting up new mail account in iOS

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Bill,

Under settings, then accounts and passwords.

 Then you should be good to go, 

Do you know what type of mail account it is your adding in?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Saturday, 1 June 2019 12:55 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Setting up new mail account in iOS

Boy, do I feel dumb! I can’t for the life of me find where or how to set up 
another account in my iOS mail app. I’ve looked in settings and I’ve looked 
through the Mail app itself, how do I do this? Thanks for any help.

Sent from my IPhone

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RE: New iPod touch announced

[Simon Fogarty]

Not enough storage space.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Friday, 31 May 2019 10:51 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced

Hi!
One can wonder why actually?
Of course its a small and great device but come on, you can store anything on 
your phone instead.
But Simon you should try to get a refurbished Iphone SE instead.
You can get that les expensive than the Ipod touch.
/A
> 30 maj 2019 kl. 16:30 skrev Jürgen Fleger :
> 
> I beleive they actually didn't want to update the iPod Touch. They just 
> rescued the device from diing when iOS 13 comes out.
> 
> JürgenVon meinem iPhone gesendet
> 
>> Am 30.05.2019 um 16:21 schrieb Mary Otten :
>> 
>> The new iPod has the home button. It does not have touch ID. Just the good 
>> old home button like all the previous iPods have had. It’s basically the 
>> same exact design except for the A10 instead of the eight, and more memory. 
>> But 32 GB is still ridiculous.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2019, at 1:51 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does the new iPod have the home button still or have they gotten rid of it.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  On Behalf Of lenron brown
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 3:02 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced
>>> 
>>> Oh yeah they did, if I was going to spend 400, I would be better off just 
>>> buying the IPad.
>>> 
 On 5/28/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
 Hi Donna,
 I’m in the same position that you are. I have an iPhone 7 Plus 
 which is acting as an iPod, since I now have a 10 R. I won’t be upgrading 
 next year.
 But the following year I suppose, if I do upgrade, myXr will become 
 my new iPod. I really think they missed the boat here.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 28, 2019, at 7:02 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> I agree, Mary.  I have been using my iPhone 7 as my iPod ever 
> since I got my iPhone X.  I think that when I upgrade my iPhone 
> next year, I'll just start using my iPhone X as my iPod.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 28, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced 
>> the update of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 
>> processor, the same one that is in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes 
>> it two years old going on three, just like my iPhone 7 Plus. No 
>> other significant changes that I am aware of, except the space. 
>> The cheapest one has
>> 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 for 400. Earlier this year, 
>> they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 chip. That is the 
>> current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, but my 
>> gut reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. 
>> They should have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am 
>> really disappointed. I was looking forward to perhaps purchasing 
>> an iPod touch, but now that I see that it has the same processor as my 
>> iPhone 7 Plus, forget it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: New iPod touch announced

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah they are bloody costly here, the new 256GB iPod is over $700 NZ dollars,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Friday, 31 May 2019 8:08 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: New iPod touch announced

Hi!
That could be something to consider.
I think the Iphone 7 is more expensive.
/A

> 30 maj 2019 kl. 10:49 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> And what is the price on an iPhone 7?
> Not that I need another phone yet but I do need a iPod to put audio books on 
> rather than putting them on my phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 1:50 PM
> To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New iPod touch announced
> 
> I thought I would pose this question, since Apple just announced the update 
> of the iPod touch today. It will have the a10 processor, the same one that is 
> in an iPhone 7 or 7+. That makes it two years old going on three, just like 
> my iPhone 7 Plus. No other significant changes that I am aware of, except the 
> space. The cheapest one has 32 GB for $200, 128 for 300, and 256 for 400. 
> Earlier this year, they released the iPad mini five, with the A 12 chip. That 
> is the current chip. I can’t remember the prices for iPad mini, but my gut 
> reaction when I saw this, it was that Apple was cheeping out. They should 
> have given us at least the A 11 if not the 12th. I am really disappointed. I 
> was looking forward to perhaps purchasing an iPod touch, but now that I see 
> that it has the same processor as my iPhone 7 Plus, forget it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Navigation apps on iOS

[Simon Fogarty]

Apple maps,
Google maps?

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Just took Lazarillo out for a spin ... my, it does have an appetite - the 
charge level was nearly halved by the time I got back.
but overall quite good, thanks for the suggestion.
Any others?

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> Lazarillo works well in uk and is free!
> Hatry
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>> Was wondering if the list had any suggestions for navigation apps on 
>> iOS. I am looking for one which would guide me to locations by simply 
>> entering the address and postcode - just like the sat nav thing in 
>> cars albeit designed with sight-impaired users in mind, naturally.
>> *smile*
>> I live in the UK in case it affects my choices.
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RE: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

[Simon Fogarty]

So how do you get your media from your computer to your phone or other IOS 
device.

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I'm happy to hear this. I've never been comfortable with iTunes.
My Youtube Channel:
"www.youtube.com/loriemccloud   

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RE: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

[Simon Fogarty]

It will be interesting,


From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

I doubt that it will be that problematic to make the change over.  I expect 
that it will be similar to the looks and feel of the iOS Music app, but may 
have a bit more to it since it's on the Mac.  I would guess that playlists, 
smart playlists, folders and such will all still be there and I don't see why 
they wouldn't support all the music and music features that already exist.  
Just a minor learning curve from my prospective.  Now, of course, these are my 
suppositions, as no one can really know anything with respect to Apple until 
the actual release.

Later...

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On May 31, 2019, at 13:15, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

  And just when I have become quite intimate with iTunes, spent a lot of time 
tweaking my music and am now satisfied.

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On 5/31/2019 12:00 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Wow! I never thought I'd see the day.  Definitely watching WWDC on Monday.
Cheers,
Donna

On May 31, 2019, at 1:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

  Yup. I may try to "attend" WWDC next week. A week or so ago, there was a 
change on my Apple TV 3rd when I found the Computers app relegated to the 
bottom and I found myself in the TV app. Probably part of the change. I think 
too I will spend much more time in the 10.15 beta when its released next month 
and come up t speed on this.

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Hi,
Interesting indeed.  I wonder if Audio Books will remain in the Music app or if 
they will update the Books app to now handle audio as well.   This announcement 
should cause a bit of a stir, both from the pro and con sides.
Later...
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On May 31, 2019, at 12:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years

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RE: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey ET,

Enjoy WWDC if you do get there,

Will be interesting to see what they come up with.

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Yup. I may try to "attend" WWDC next week. A week or so ago, there was a 
change on my Apple TV 3rd when I found the Computers app relegated to the 
bottom and I found myself in the TV app. Probably part of the change. I think 
too I will spend much more time in the 10.15 beta when its released next month 
and come up t speed on this.

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On 5/31/2019 11:32 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Interesting indeed.  I wonder if Audio Books will remain in the Music 
> app or if they will update the Books app to now handle audio as well.
>   This announcement should cause a bit of a stir, both from the pro 
> and con sides.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> On May 31, 2019, at 12:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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RE: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah, I’ve got a lot of books on a windows server that I have to use itunes to 
add them to my iPods or phone.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Subject: Re: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

Hi,

Interesting indeed.  I wonder if Audio Books will remain in the Music app or if 
they will update the Books app to now handle audio as well.  This announcement 
should cause a bit of a stir, both from the pro and con sides.

Later...

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On May 31, 2019, at 12:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years



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RE: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/31/goodbye-itunes/

[Simon Fogarty]

So then what wil be used to get audio material on to a device if it's not in 
your library


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mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

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