Getting Started with Keyboard Maestro

[Emilio S. Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

I am curious what tutorials can be suggested that will help me learn how to use 
Keyboard Maestro with voiceover?
I am using High Sierra with Keyboard Maestro version 7.3.1.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: Getting back

[frednavd55]

Thanks, Lorie!

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> On Jun 20, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> if I get booted out of some place usually a command-tab or 2 will help me 
> find it again. this command cycles you among the programs that you have open. 
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 8:36 PM, frednav...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, looking for help for the command that will take you back to where you 
>> were working after somehow getting kicked out of that area, for example a 
>> webpage, and put onto the desktop. How do you go back to that web page? I am 
>> a teacher who is trying to learn voiceover to help my student. I have a 
>> whole list of commands, but I cannot find the one that will take me directly 
>> back to the window I was working.  I’ve had this happen several times, I 
>> might be working in Pages, and then somehow get out of Pages and can’t go 
>> directly back to it. I find my way back by going to the dock and then 
>> opening a Pages again, but is there another way to get back when you know 
>> you are out of the window you were?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help! 
>> Fredna Van Dellen TVI
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Re: Getting back

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Thank you, Aleeha!

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> On Jun 20, 2019, at 6:42 PM, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
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> Hi, 
> Press command tab. 
> HTH,
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:36 PM, frednav...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, looking for help for the command that will take you back to where you 
>> were working after somehow getting kicked out of that area, for example a 
>> webpage, and put onto the desktop. How do you go back to that web page? I am 
>> a teacher who is trying to learn voiceover to help my student. I have a 
>> whole list of commands, but I cannot find the one that will take me directly 
>> back to the window I was working.  I’ve had this happen several times, I 
>> might be working in Pages, and then somehow get out of Pages and can’t go 
>> directly back to it. I find my way back by going to the dock and then 
>> opening a Pages again, but is there another way to get back when you know 
>> you are out of the window you were?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help! 
>> Fredna Van Dellen TVI
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Memory sticks

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   There you go again, running off and leaving unfinished business. (grins)

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On 6/20/2019 6:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
Thanks, I’ll try that later. Off to do my domestic duties now like 
taking the washing off the line before I go to work.

But I hav more info to go on now.
Petrus

On 21/06/2019, at 1:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  In Finder do a command shift c. Do you see it there? If so, can you 
open it to view its contents?


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On 6/20/2019 6:38 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi Aleeha,
Sorry, but I tried that. I plugged in the memory stick and navigated 
to the finder and couldn’t find the drive, but it still told me to 
eject it correctly.  But but when I pressed command E it said New 
selection defined, or something like that. I’m guessing that was 
because I didn’t have the drive selected.
I do have a friend visiting on Sunday and he also uses a Mac so I’ll 
wait till he is here.

Thanks again.
On 21/06/2019, at 1:27 PM, Aleeha Dudley  
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Hi,
When you plug a drive in of any kind, it should show up on your 
desktop. If you navigate to the finder, the drive will be there. It 
is good computer management practice to always safely eject a drive 
when you are finished with it. To do so, find the drive in finder 
and press Command E.

Hope that helps.
Aleeha

On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:


Hi all,
I have a silly question again. I have a few old flash drives or 
memory sticks, what ever you want to call them?   How do I check 
what is on them or even if my Mac will read the contents? I suspect 
there is some Mp3 files and audio books on them, but it has been so 
long I can’t remember. I used to use them with my old windows 
computer. I plugged one in and it said my Mac could not read it and 
gave me an option to eject it. But the next one I tried nothing 
happened, I was at least expecting a dialog box giving me some 
instructions. But when I pulled it out it told me that I didn’t 
eject it correctly. But  it didn’t tell me how to do that.
I do have an old external hard drive as well which has lots of MP3 
audio books on it, but I didn’t want to plug that in until I had 
some idea of what I was doing.

Hoping for any advice,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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Re: Memory sticks

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thanks, I’ll try that later. Off to do my domestic duties now like taking the 
washing off the line before I go to work. 
But I hav more info to go on now.
Petrus 

> On 21/06/2019, at 1:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   In Finder do a command shift c. Do you see it there? If so, can you open it 
> to view its contents?
> 
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> On 6/20/2019 6:38 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> Hi Aleeha,
>> Sorry, but I tried that. I plugged in the memory stick and navigated to the 
>> finder and couldn’t find the drive, but it still told me to eject it 
>> correctly.  But but when I pressed command E it said New selection defined, 
>> or something like that. I’m guessing that was because I didn’t have the 
>> drive selected.
>> I do have a friend visiting on Sunday and he also uses a Mac so I’ll wait 
>> till he is here.
>> Thanks again.
>>> On 21/06/2019, at 1:27 PM, Aleeha Dudley >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> When you plug a drive in of any kind, it should show up on your desktop. If 
>>> you navigate to the finder, the drive will be there. It is good computer 
>>> management practice to always safely eject a drive when you are finished 
>>> with it. To do so, find the drive in finder and press Command E.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Aleeha
>>> 
 On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I have a silly question again. I have a few old flash drives or memory 
 sticks, what ever you want to call them?   How do I check what is on them 
 or even if my Mac will read the contents? I suspect there is some Mp3 
 files and audio books on them, but it has been so long I can’t remember. I 
 used to use them with my old windows computer. I plugged one in and it 
 said my Mac could not read it and gave me an option to eject it. But the 
 next one I tried nothing happened, I was at least expecting a dialog box 
 giving me some instructions. But when I pulled it out it told me that I 
 didn’t eject it correctly. But  it didn’t tell me how to do that.
 I do have an old external hard drive as well which has lots of MP3 audio 
 books on it, but I didn’t want to plug that in until I had some idea of 
 what I was doing.
 Hoping for any advice,
 Petrus
 Sent from Petrus' MacBook
 
 
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Re: Memory sticks

[Lorie McCloud]

sometimes I have trouble when I plug a memory stick or card into my Mac because 
my Mac doesn't see it at first. even if it doesn't have a name it should say 
"noname" or the maker of the memory stick or some such thing. if you press 
command-shift-C and arrow up and down and still don't hear anything like that 
then unplug it and plug it right back in again. wait 5 or 10 seconds and look 
around again. if you can't find anything at all then to my knowledge that means 
your computer's not seeing it.

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 8:38 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Aleeha,
> Sorry, but I tried that. I plugged in the memory stick and navigated to the 
> finder and couldn’t find the drive, but it still told me to eject it 
> correctly.  But but when I pressed command E it said New selection defined, 
> or something like that. I’m guessing that was because I didn’t have the drive 
> selected.
> I do have a friend visiting on Sunday and he also uses a Mac so I’ll wait 
> till he is here.
> Thanks again. 
> 
>> On 21/06/2019, at 1:27 PM, Aleeha Dudley > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> When you plug a drive in of any kind, it should show up on your desktop. If 
>> you navigate to the finder, the drive will be there. It is good computer 
>> management practice to always safely eject a drive when you are finished 
>> with it. To do so, find the drive in finder and press Command E.
>> Hope that helps.
>> Aleeha 
>> 
>>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I have a silly question again. I have a few old flash drives or memory 
>>> sticks, what ever you want to call them?   How do I check what is on them 
>>> or even if my Mac will read the contents? I suspect there is some Mp3 files 
>>> and audio books on them, but it has been so long I can’t remember. I used 
>>> to use them with my old windows computer. I plugged one in and it said my 
>>> Mac could not read it and gave me an option to eject it. But the next one I 
>>> tried nothing happened, I was at least expecting a dialog box giving me 
>>> some instructions. But when I pulled it out it told me that I didn’t eject 
>>> it correctly. But  it didn’t tell me how to do that. 
>>> I do have an old external hard drive as well which has lots of MP3 audio 
>>> books on it, but I didn’t want to plug that in until I had some idea of 
>>> what I was doing. 
>>> Hoping for any advice,
>>> Petrus 
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>>> 
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Re: Memory sticks

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   In Finder do a command shift c. Do you see it there? If so, can you 
open it to view its contents?


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On 6/20/2019 6:38 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi Aleeha,
Sorry, but I tried that. I plugged in the memory stick and navigated to 
the finder and couldn’t find the drive, but it still told me to eject it 
correctly.  But but when I pressed command E it said New selection 
defined, or something like that. I’m guessing that was because I didn’t 
have the drive selected.
I do have a friend visiting on Sunday and he also uses a Mac so I’ll 
wait till he is here.

Thanks again.

On 21/06/2019, at 1:27 PM, Aleeha Dudley > wrote:


Hi,
When you plug a drive in of any kind, it should show up on your 
desktop. If you navigate to the finder, the drive will be there. It is 
good computer management practice to always safely eject a drive when 
you are finished with it. To do so, find the drive in finder and press 
Command E.

Hope that helps.
Aleeha

On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > wrote:


Hi all,
I have a silly question again. I have a few old flash drives or 
memory sticks, what ever you want to call them?   How do I check what 
is on them or even if my Mac will read the contents? I suspect there 
is some Mp3 files and audio books on them, but it has been so long I 
can’t remember. I used to use them with my old windows computer. I 
plugged one in and it said my Mac could not read it and gave me an 
option to eject it. But the next one I tried nothing happened, I was 
at least expecting a dialog box giving me some instructions. But when 
I pulled it out it told me that I didn’t eject it correctly. But  it 
didn’t tell me how to do that.
I do have an old external hard drive as well which has lots of MP3 
audio books on it, but I didn’t want to plug that in until I had some 
idea of what I was doing.

Hoping for any advice,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook


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Re: Getting back

[Lorie McCloud]

if I get booted out of some place usually a command-tab or 2 will help me find 
it again. this command cycles you among the programs that you have open. 

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 8:36 PM, frednav...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, looking for help for the command that will take you back to where you 
> were working after somehow getting kicked out of that area, for example a 
> webpage, and put onto the desktop. How do you go back to that web page? I am 
> a teacher who is trying to learn voiceover to help my student. I have a whole 
> list of commands, but I cannot find the one that will take me directly back 
> to the window I was working.  I’ve had this happen several times, I might be 
> working in Pages, and then somehow get out of Pages and can’t go directly 
> back to it. I find my way back by going to the dock and then opening a Pages 
> again, but is there another way to get back when you know you are out of the 
> window you were?
> 
> Thanks for your help! 
> Fredna Van Dellen TVI
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Re: Getting back

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Press command tab. 
HTH,
Aleeha 

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:36 PM, frednav...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, looking for help for the command that will take you back to where you 
> were working after somehow getting kicked out of that area, for example a 
> webpage, and put onto the desktop. How do you go back to that web page? I am 
> a teacher who is trying to learn voiceover to help my student. I have a whole 
> list of commands, but I cannot find the one that will take me directly back 
> to the window I was working.  I’ve had this happen several times, I might be 
> working in Pages, and then somehow get out of Pages and can’t go directly 
> back to it. I find my way back by going to the dock and then opening a Pages 
> again, but is there another way to get back when you know you are out of the 
> window you were?
> 
> Thanks for your help! 
> Fredna Van Dellen TVI
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Re: Memory sticks

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Aleeha,
Sorry, but I tried that. I plugged in the memory stick and navigated to the 
finder and couldn’t find the drive, but it still told me to eject it correctly. 
 But but when I pressed command E it said New selection defined, or something 
like that. I’m guessing that was because I didn’t have the drive selected.
I do have a friend visiting on Sunday and he also uses a Mac so I’ll wait till 
he is here.
Thanks again. 

> On 21/06/2019, at 1:27 PM, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
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> Hi, 
> When you plug a drive in of any kind, it should show up on your desktop. If 
> you navigate to the finder, the drive will be there. It is good computer 
> management practice to always safely eject a drive when you are finished with 
> it. To do so, find the drive in finder and press Command E.
> Hope that helps.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I have a silly question again. I have a few old flash drives or memory 
>> sticks, what ever you want to call them?   How do I check what is on them or 
>> even if my Mac will read the contents? I suspect there is some Mp3 files and 
>> audio books on them, but it has been so long I can’t remember. I used to use 
>> them with my old windows computer. I plugged one in and it said my Mac could 
>> not read it and gave me an option to eject it. But the next one I tried 
>> nothing happened, I was at least expecting a dialog box giving me some 
>> instructions. But when I pulled it out it told me that I didn’t eject it 
>> correctly. But  it didn’t tell me how to do that. 
>> I do have an old external hard drive as well which has lots of MP3 audio 
>> books on it, but I didn’t want to plug that in until I had some idea of what 
>> I was doing. 
>> Hoping for any advice,
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Getting back

[frednavd55]

Hi, looking for help for the command that will take you back to where you were 
working after somehow getting kicked out of that area, for example a webpage, 
and put onto the desktop. How do you go back to that web page? I am a teacher 
who is trying to learn voiceover to help my student. I have a whole list of 
commands, but I cannot find the one that will take me directly back to the 
window I was working.  I’ve had this happen several times, I might be working 
in Pages, and then somehow get out of Pages and can’t go directly back to it. I 
find my way back by going to the dock and then opening a Pages again, but is 
there another way to get back when you know you are out of the window you were?

Thanks for your help! 
Fredna Van Dellen TVI

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Re: Memory sticks

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
When you plug a drive in of any kind, it should show up on your desktop. If you 
navigate to the finder, the drive will be there. It is good computer management 
practice to always safely eject a drive when you are finished with it. To do 
so, find the drive in finder and press Command E.
Hope that helps.
Aleeha 

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I have a silly question again. I have a few old flash drives or memory 
> sticks, what ever you want to call them?   How do I check what is on them or 
> even if my Mac will read the contents? I suspect there is some Mp3 files and 
> audio books on them, but it has been so long I can’t remember. I used to use 
> them with my old windows computer. I plugged one in and it said my Mac could 
> not read it and gave me an option to eject it. But the next one I tried 
> nothing happened, I was at least expecting a dialog box giving me some 
> instructions. But when I pulled it out it told me that I didn’t eject it 
> correctly. But  it didn’t tell me how to do that. 
> I do have an old external hard drive as well which has lots of MP3 audio 
> books on it, but I didn’t want to plug that in until I had some idea of what 
> I was doing. 
> Hoping for any advice,
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Memory sticks

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi all,
I have a silly question again. I have a few old flash drives or memory sticks, 
what ever you want to call them?   How do I check what is on them or even if my 
Mac will read the contents? I suspect there is some Mp3 files and audio books 
on them, but it has been so long I can’t remember. I used to use them with my 
old windows computer. I plugged one in and it said my Mac could not read it and 
gave me an option to eject it. But the next one I tried nothing happened, I was 
at least expecting a dialog box giving me some instructions. But when I pulled 
it out it told me that I didn’t eject it correctly. But  it didn’t tell me how 
to do that. 
I do have an old external hard drive as well which has lots of MP3 audio books 
on it, but I didn’t want to plug that in until I had some idea of what I was 
doing. 
Hoping for any advice,
Petrus 
Sent from Petrus' MacBook 

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RE: How To Change Your Apple ID from a Third-Party Email Address to a @Mac, @Me, or @iCloud Email Address

[M. Taylor]

Hello Harry, 

I am, by no means, an authority on this but, as I understand it, you can use 
any Apple alias, already associated with your Apple ID as your primary Apple 
ID.  

For more help on this, search the web or give Apple tech support a ring.

Good Luck,

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How To Change Your Apple ID from a Third-Party Email Address to a 
@Mac, @Me, or @iCloud Email Address

I already have an iCloud email address: will I have to use that one or can I 
create a different one to use as my Apple ID?
And I read somewhere that you cannot use an iCloud alias for this - is that so?
Thanks
Harry

> On 20 Jun 2019, at 04:17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Follow these steps to change the email address or phone number that 
> you use as your Apple ID:
> 
> If your Apple ID is a third-party
> email address
> 
> If your Apple ID is a third-party email address
> 
> Before you change your Apple ID email address, you need to sign out of 
> every Apple service and device that uses your Apple ID. If you want to 
> use your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to change your Apple ID, stay 
> signed in to your Apple ID on just that device.
> 
> When you change your Apple ID, you can enter another third-party email 
> address. Or you can enter an @icloud.com, @me.com, or @mac.com email 
> address that's already a login alias or alternate Apple ID for your 
> account. To see these addresses, sign into your Apple ID account page. 
> Click Edit under the Account section to reveal Reachable At. In this 
> list, a login alias will have a  next to it which, when hovered over 
> with a mouse pointer, shows this
> message: "This is an alias of your Apple ID email address."
> 
> Use your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 10.3 or later
> 
> 1.
> Go to Settings > [your name] > Name, Phone Numbers, Email. 
> 
> 2.
> Next to Reachable At, tap Edit, then delete your current Apple ID.
> 
> 3.
> Tap Continue. Enter the Apple ID that you want to use.
> 
> 4.
> Tap Next.
> 
> Use your Apple ID account page
> 
> 1.
> Go to appleid.apple.com and sign in. 
> 
> 2.
> In the Account section, click Edit. 
> 
> 3.
> Under your Apple ID, click Change Apple ID. If you try to change your 
> Apple ID to an @icloud.com email address created within the last 30 
> days, you might be asked to try again later.
> 
> 4.
> Enter the Apple ID that you want to use.
> 
> 5.
> Click Continue. 
> 
> If you enter a new Apple ID that ends with @icloud.com, @me.com, or 
> @mac.com, you see a message to confirm. When you change your Apple ID 
> to an @icloud.com, @me.com, or @mac.com account, you can't change it 
> back to a third-party email account. Your former Apple ID that ends 
> with a third-party email becomes an additional email address for your Apple 
> ID account.
> 
> Original Article at:
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RE: How To Change Your Apple ID from a Third-Party Email Address to a @Mac, @Me, or @iCloud Email Address

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donna,

You are quite welcome.  I am so glad you found this info useful.

I have several friends who've been trying to do this for the longest time but 
could not figure out how to get it done.  

It took a little digging on the net but, eventually, I located the right 
article.

The funny thing is that, once you know exactly what words to type into the 
search engine, the article pops right up; the challenge is finding the right 
string of words to get what you want.  (smile); such is the sentiment of life..

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 5:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How To Change Your Apple ID from a Third-Party Email Address to a 
@Mac, @Me, or @iCloud Email Address

Mark,

I have wanted to do this forever.  So glad Apple finally made it possible.  
Thank you for posting.
Donna


> On Jun 19, 2019, at 10:17 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Follow these steps to change the email address or phone number that 
> you use as your Apple ID:
> 
> If your Apple ID is a third-party
> email address
> 
> If your Apple ID is a third-party email address
> 
> Before you change your Apple ID email address, you need to sign out of 
> every Apple service and device that uses your Apple ID. If you want to 
> use your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to change your Apple ID, stay 
> signed in to your Apple ID on just that device.
> 
> When you change your Apple ID, you can enter another third-party email 
> address. Or you can enter an @icloud.com, @me.com, or @mac.com email 
> address that's already a login alias or alternate Apple ID for your 
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Re: Local Documents?

['Rob' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks,

I found it.

I was not interacting with that last table.

Thanks again.

Rob

On 6/20/2019 5:37 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

In System Prefs, iCloud, interact with the Services table, make sure 
iCloud Drive is checked and VO-space on the Options button beside the 
iCloud Drive item.  Within the iCloud Drive options, you'll find a 
table where you can check or uncheck items that you wish to sync 
within the iCloud Drive service.  Check the Desktop & Documents item.


Later...


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On Jun 19, 2019, at 18:32, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi,
When pressing command+Shift+O, I get local documents, and the folder 
is empty. I can’t remember how to tell iCloud to store documents  and 
desktop items in the cloud.

Can someone help?
Thanks in advance,
Rob

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Re: Local Documents?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

In System Prefs, iCloud, interact with the Services table, make sure iCloud 
Drive is checked and VO-space on the Options button beside the iCloud Drive 
item.  Within the iCloud Drive options, you'll find a table where you can check 
or uncheck items that you wish to sync within the iCloud Drive service.  Check 
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Later...


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On Jun 19, 2019, at 18:32, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,
When pressing command+Shift+O, I get local documents, and the folder is empty. 
I can’t remember how to tell iCloud to store documents  and desktop items in 
the cloud.
Can someone help?
Thanks in advance,
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Re: Happy 10th anniversary, iPhone 3GS!

[Pete De Vasto]

Something’s definitely gone wrong with the link. I get the Flying Blind 
newsletter as well, and even when I tried opening the link from there I got the 
404 error. I bet someone will report that to Applevis and they’ll try to fix it 
at some point.

Pete De Vasto

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 1:24 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Well, that's weird.  I just tried to reopen it and I got the same error.  It 
> opened just fine this morning.  Not sure what would have changed.  Sorry, 
> everyone.
> Best,
> Donna
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>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 3:18 PM, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
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>> Interesting.  I got a 404 not found.  Any one else.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > > 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:07 AM
>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > >
>> Subject: Happy 10th anniversary, iPhone 3GS!
>>  
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Just had to post this.
>>  
>> June 19 2009 was the release date of the iPhone 3Gs, the first release of 
>> the iPhone to have Voiceover.  I still remember how excited I was to go to 
>> our local Apple store and buy my first iPhone--to be followed shortly 
>> thereafter by the purchase of my first Mac.
>>  
>> If anyone is interested in a fun trip down memory lane, here is David 
>> Woodbridge's demo of the iPhone 3Gs compliments of the Flying Blind 
>> newsletter:
>> http://bit.ly/2RuLW20 
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Re: Happy 10th anniversary, iPhone 3GS!

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Well, that's weird.  I just tried to reopen it and I got the same error.  It 
opened just fine this morning.  Not sure what would have changed.  Sorry, 
everyone.
Best,
Donna


> On Jun 20, 2019, at 3:18 PM, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Interesting.  I got a 404 not found.  Any one else.
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  > 
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:07 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Happy 10th anniversary, iPhone 3GS!
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> Hi all,
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> Just had to post this.
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> iPhone to have Voiceover.  I still remember how excited I was to go to our 
> local Apple store and buy my first iPhone--to be followed shortly thereafter 
> by the purchase of my first Mac.
>  
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RE: Happy 10th anniversary, iPhone 3GS!

[ilovecountrymusic483]

Interesting.  I got a 404 not found.  Any one else.

 

 

 

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:07 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Happy 10th anniversary, iPhone 3GS!

 

Hi all,

 

Just had to post this.

 

June 19 2009 was the release date of the iPhone 3Gs, the first release of the 
iPhone to have Voiceover.  I still remember how excited I was to go to our 
local Apple store and buy my first iPhone--to be followed shortly thereafter by 
the purchase of my first Mac.

 

If anyone is interested in a fun trip down memory lane, here is David 
Woodbridge's demo of the iPhone 3Gs compliments of the Flying Blind newsletter:

 

 http://bit.ly/2RuLW20

 

Cheers,

Donna

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Re: previous recipients in Apple mail

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Lorie,
Forward delete also works in text edit. :)
Also in Avid's Pro tools it works when naming audio tracks and a bunch of other 
text fields.
HTH
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Jun 20, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

> in my experience forward delete doesn't work anywhere much except for 
> deleting emails.
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 8:25 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> Yes, you are correct.  On older Macs, way back when, I believe that the key 
>> was called Backspace, although nowadays, at least according to Mac Keyboard 
>> Practice, it is called Delete.  Forward delete was never an item on Macs for 
>> the longest time.  My mind still has a hard time wrapping around the need 
>> for forward delete, but I guess that it's a product of the Windows world and 
>> the need for accommodating switchers.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 20, 2019, at 03:15, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>>  
>> A backspace key can also do forward delete if you use FN at the same time.
>>  
>> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 8:18 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: previous recipients in Apple mail
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Not really.  The BackSpace/Delete key is where I said.  The key on the 
>> six-pack is the Forward Delete.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 14:07, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>  
>> I have a full size keyboard (not bluetooth) on my Mac Mini. backspace and 
>> delete are different keys on here.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>  
>> I'm saying either the BackSpace or Delete key.  Usually, they are the same 
>> key, but some people call them differently.  On a Mac laptop, it would be 
>> the top right most key, not counting the F-key row.  This should be the same 
>> on the regular Apple keyboard for iMac and MacMinis.  On the Apple Extended 
>> keyboard with the NumPad, it would be the right most key in the main area of 
>> the keyboard along the number row.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 12:49, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>  
>> are you saying delete and backspace together or just backspace to delete?
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:05 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>  
>> Stop interacting with the table of previous recipients, VO-right once is 
>> "Remove from List" and once more is "Add to Contacts".  You can also just 
>> hit the Delete/back Space key to delete an entry.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
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>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 18:39, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> I want to clean out my addressbook a little bit. I went into window and then 
>> recipients searched for the address I want but I can't find "remove" or 
>> "delete". anybody know where it is?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Is IOS 13 in public beta?

[maurice.mines]

I thought that they normally don’t release a version mobile wells for 
public beta Intel mid too late July at the earliest. Has that changed?


There is one feature that I’m excited but slightly concerned about for 
obvious reasons, while I want to get rid of junk phone callers just like 
anyone else, extending colors that are in one’s context to voicemail 
is going to cause a bit of a problem sometime a deaf blind person. 
Luckily for me my voicemail directs people to a relay service for the 
deaf and deaf blind. Those folks at least I think should be warned that 
the call volumes are up to the way up. Hopefully the relay service can 
tell the difference between a legitimate color and some quick buck are 
best who was trying to use relay to perpetrate something not nice. Any 
thoughts?


Outside of all of that I do have one question what the list I just got a 
focus 14. I’m using it with USB just simply because the Bluetooth 
interface appears to not be compatible with the West 10. From working 
with someone cited, the device payers but the entering the code box 
comes up so fast that it’s impossible to type in the characters that 
would complete the pairing process I’m assuming this is a known 
phenomenon. Other any thoughts on whether this unit can actually do 
Bluetooth with my MacBook Pro? Or is it the way I really think it is, 
but I’m stuck using the USB see cable.


Sincerely  Maurice Mines.
Amateur callsign kd0iko.
VP national Federation of the blind of California Bakersfield chapter.

On 20 Jun 2019, at 7:17, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:


   Next week I think. Here is where you can sign on.



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Hi all,

I've become curious about running the beta of IOS 13.  I know there 
are some on this list who beta, can anyone tell me if a public beta 
has been released yet?  If yes, where does one obtain it?  If not, 
what would I need to do if I wanted to sign up as a beta tester?

TIA,
Donna



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highlighting text in screenshot

[Chris Moore]

Hello,

I need to do some screenshots on a  selected rectangular portion of the screen. 
 I’m looking for suggestions.  If a sighted person could help set hotspots, 
what sequence of voiceOver keys would I use to perform the highlighting?

Would I need to use mouse keys?

TIA

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Re: previous recipients in Apple mail

[Lorie McCloud]

in my experience forward delete doesn't work anywhere much except for deleting 
emails.

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 8:25 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Simon,
> 
> Yes, you are correct.  On older Macs, way back when, I believe that the key 
> was called Backspace, although nowadays, at least according to Mac Keyboard 
> Practice, it is called Delete.  Forward delete was never an item on Macs for 
> the longest time.  My mind still has a hard time wrapping around the need for 
> forward delete, but I guess that it's a product of the Windows world and the 
> need for accommodating switchers.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 20, 2019, at 03:15, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
>  
> A backspace key can also do forward delete if you use FN at the same time.
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  > 
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 8:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: previous recipients in Apple mail
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Not really.  The BackSpace/Delete key is where I said.  The key on the 
> six-pack is the Forward Delete.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 14:07, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
>  
> I have a full size keyboard (not bluetooth) on my Mac Mini. backspace and 
> delete are different keys on here.
> 
> 
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Hi,
>  
> I'm saying either the BackSpace or Delete key.  Usually, they are the same 
> key, but some people call them differently.  On a Mac laptop, it would be the 
> top right most key, not counting the F-key row.  This should be the same on 
> the regular Apple keyboard for iMac and MacMinis.  On the Apple Extended 
> keyboard with the NumPad, it would be the right most key in the main area of 
> the keyboard along the number row.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
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>  
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 12:49, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
>  
> are you saying delete and backspace together or just backspace to delete?
> 
> 
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:05 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> Stop interacting with the table of previous recipients, VO-right once is 
> "Remove from List" and once more is "Add to Contacts".  You can also just hit 
> the Delete/back Space key to delete an entry.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> Jamf Certified Associate
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>  
> On Jun 17, 2019, at 18:39, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
>  
> I want to clean out my addressbook a little bit. I went into window and then 
> recipients searched for the address I want but I can't find "remove" or 
> "delete". anybody know where it is?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: How To Change Your Apple ID from a Third-Party Email Address to a @Mac, @Me, or @iCloud Email Address

['Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries]

I already have an iCloud email address: will I have to use that one or can I 
create a different one to use as my Apple ID?
And I read somewhere that you cannot use an iCloud alias for this - is that so?
Thanks
Harry

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> Follow these steps to change the email address or phone number that you use
> as your Apple ID:
> 
> If your Apple ID is a third-party
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> 
> If your Apple ID is a third-party email address 
> 
> Before you change your Apple ID email address, you need to sign out of every
> Apple service and device that uses your Apple ID. If you want to use your
> iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to change your Apple ID, stay signed in to your
> Apple ID on just that device.
> 
> When you change your Apple ID, you can enter another third-party email
> address. Or you can enter an @icloud.com, @me.com, or @mac.com email address
> that's already a login alias or alternate Apple ID for your account. To see
> these addresses, sign into your Apple ID account page. Click Edit under the
> Account section to reveal Reachable At. In this list, a login alias will
> have a  next to it which, when hovered over with a mouse pointer, shows this
> message: "This is an alias of your Apple ID email address."
> 
> Use your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 10.3 or later
> 
> 1.
> Go to Settings > [your name] > Name, Phone Numbers, Email. 
> 
> 2.
> Next to Reachable At, tap Edit, then delete your current Apple ID.
> 
> 3.
> Tap Continue. Enter the Apple ID that you want to use.
> 
> 4.
> Tap Next.
> 
> Use your Apple ID account page
> 
> 1.
> Go to appleid.apple.com and sign in. 
> 
> 2.
> In the Account section, click Edit. 
> 
> 3.
> Under your Apple ID, click Change Apple ID. If you try to change your Apple
> ID to an @icloud.com email address created within the last 30 days, you
> might be asked to try again later.
> 
> 4.
> Enter the Apple ID that you want to use.
> 
> 5.
> Click Continue. 
> 
> If you enter a new Apple ID that ends with @icloud.com, @me.com, or
> @mac.com, you see a message to confirm. When you change your Apple ID to an
> @icloud.com, @me.com, or @mac.com account, you can't change it back to a
> third-party email account. Your former Apple ID that ends with a third-party
> email becomes an additional email address for your Apple ID account.
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> Original Article at:
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Re: Is IOS 13 in public beta?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks!--Donna

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:17 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> On 6/20/2019 6:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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>> I've become curious about running the beta of IOS 13.  I know there are some 
>> on this list who beta, can anyone tell me if a public beta has been released 
>> yet?  If yes, where does one obtain it?  If not, what would I need to do if 
>> I wanted to sign up as a beta tester?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Is IOS 13 in public beta?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Next week I think. Here is where you can sign on.



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On 6/20/2019 6:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,

I've become curious about running the beta of IOS 13.  I know there are some on 
this list who beta, can anyone tell me if a public beta has been released yet?  
If yes, where does one obtain it?  If not, what would I need to do if I wanted 
to sign up as a beta tester?
TIA,
Donna



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Re: Customizing Default App/Extensions

['Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries]

 Well, I figured how to change the default program for opening a given 
extension (MP3 files defaulting to Quick Time).  Selecting an MP3 file and then 
entering +i opened the file information dialog where I was able to 
then change the default program for all files with the MP3 extension.

The selection for the default program is somewhat buried at the end of the 
dialog, but if one sticks with it the item will eventually be encountered.



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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Bill Gallik
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On Jun 20, 2019, at 8:36 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries 
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I would prefer to have Quick Time be the default program for opening MP3 files. 
 How to I go about changing the current default from iTunes to Quick Time?



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Customizing Default App/Extensions

['Bill Gallik' via MacVisionaries]

 I would prefer to have Quick Time be the default program for opening MP3 
files.  How to I go about changing the current default from iTunes to Quick 
Time?



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Re: previous recipients in Apple mail

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Simon,

Yes, you are correct.  On older Macs, way back when, I believe that the key was 
called Backspace, although nowadays, at least according to Mac Keyboard 
Practice, it is called Delete.  Forward delete was never an item on Macs for 
the longest time.  My mind still has a hard time wrapping around the need for 
forward delete, but I guess that it's a product of the Windows world and the 
need for accommodating switchers.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 20, 2019, at 03:15, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 
A backspace key can also do forward delete if you use FN at the same time.
 
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 8:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: previous recipients in Apple mail
 
Hi,
 
Not really.  The BackSpace/Delete key is where I said.  The key on the six-pack 
is the Forward Delete.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Jun 18, 2019, at 14:07, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
I have a full size keyboard (not bluetooth) on my Mac Mini. backspace and 
delete are different keys on here.


On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi,
 
I'm saying either the BackSpace or Delete key.  Usually, they are the same key, 
but some people call them differently.  On a Mac laptop, it would be the top 
right most key, not counting the F-key row.  This should be the same on the 
regular Apple keyboard for iMac and MacMinis.  On the Apple Extended keyboard 
with the NumPad, it would be the right most key in the main area of the 
keyboard along the number row.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Jun 18, 2019, at 12:49, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
are you saying delete and backspace together or just backspace to delete?


On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:05 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hi,
 
Stop interacting with the table of previous recipients, VO-right once is 
"Remove from List" and once more is "Add to Contacts".  You can also just hit 
the Delete/back Space key to delete an entry.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Jun 17, 2019, at 18:39, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
I want to clean out my addressbook a little bit. I went into window and then 
recipients searched for the address I want but I can't find "remove" or 
"delete". anybody know where it is?

thanks.
Lorie

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Is IOS 13 in public beta?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I've become curious about running the beta of IOS 13.  I know there are some on 
this list who beta, can anyone tell me if a public beta has been released yet?  
If yes, where does one obtain it?  If not, what would I need to do if I wanted 
to sign up as a beta tester?
TIA,
Donna

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Happy 10th anniversary, iPhone 3GS!

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

Just had to post this.

June 19 2009 was the release date of the iPhone 3Gs, the first release of the 
iPhone to have Voiceover.  I still remember how excited I was to go to our 
local Apple store and buy my first iPhone--to be followed shortly thereafter by 
the purchase of my first Mac.

If anyone is interested in a fun trip down memory lane, here is David 
Woodbridge's demo of the iPhone 3Gs compliments of the Flying Blind newsletter:
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Re: How To Change Your Apple ID from a Third-Party Email Address to a @Mac, @Me, or @iCloud Email Address

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Mark,

I have wanted to do this forever.  So glad Apple finally made it possible.  
Thank you for posting.
Donna


> On Jun 19, 2019, at 10:17 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Follow these steps to change the email address or phone number that you use
> as your Apple ID:
> 
> If your Apple ID is a third-party
> email address
> 
> If your Apple ID is a third-party email address 
> 
> Before you change your Apple ID email address, you need to sign out of every
> Apple service and device that uses your Apple ID. If you want to use your
> iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to change your Apple ID, stay signed in to your
> Apple ID on just that device.
> 
> When you change your Apple ID, you can enter another third-party email
> address. Or you can enter an @icloud.com, @me.com, or @mac.com email address
> that's already a login alias or alternate Apple ID for your account. To see
> these addresses, sign into your Apple ID account page. Click Edit under the
> Account section to reveal Reachable At. In this list, a login alias will
> have a  next to it which, when hovered over with a mouse pointer, shows this
> message: "This is an alias of your Apple ID email address."
> 
> Use your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 10.3 or later
> 
> 1.
> Go to Settings > [your name] > Name, Phone Numbers, Email. 
> 
> 2.
> Next to Reachable At, tap Edit, then delete your current Apple ID.
> 
> 3.
> Tap Continue. Enter the Apple ID that you want to use.
> 
> 4.
> Tap Next.
> 
> Use your Apple ID account page
> 
> 1.
> Go to appleid.apple.com and sign in. 
> 
> 2.
> In the Account section, click Edit. 
> 
> 3.
> Under your Apple ID, click Change Apple ID. If you try to change your Apple
> ID to an @icloud.com email address created within the last 30 days, you
> might be asked to try again later.
> 
> 4.
> Enter the Apple ID that you want to use.
> 
> 5.
> Click Continue. 
> 
> If you enter a new Apple ID that ends with @icloud.com, @me.com, or
> @mac.com, you see a message to confirm. When you change your Apple ID to an
> @icloud.com, @me.com, or @mac.com account, you can't change it back to a
> third-party email account. Your former Apple ID that ends with a third-party
> email becomes an additional email address for your Apple ID account.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202667
> 
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RE: previous recipients in Apple mail

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

A backspace key can also do forward delete if you use FN at the same time.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 8:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: previous recipients in Apple mail

Hi,

Not really.  The BackSpace/Delete key is where I said.  The key on the six-pack 
is the Forward Delete.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 18, 2019, at 14:07, Lorie McCloud 
mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have a full size keyboard (not bluetooth) on my Mac Mini. backspace and 
delete are different keys on here.


On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I'm saying either the BackSpace or Delete key.  Usually, they are the same key, 
but some people call them differently.  On a Mac laptop, it would be the top 
right most key, not counting the F-key row.  This should be the same on the 
regular Apple keyboard for iMac and MacMinis.  On the Apple Extended keyboard 
with the NumPad, it would be the right most key in the main area of the 
keyboard along the number row.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 18, 2019, at 12:49, Lorie McCloud 
mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

are you saying delete and backspace together or just backspace to delete?


On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:05 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Stop interacting with the table of previous recipients, VO-right once is 
"Remove from List" and once more is "Add to Contacts".  You can also just hit 
the Delete/back Space key to delete an entry.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 17, 2019, at 18:39, Lorie McCloud 
mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I want to clean out my addressbook a little bit. I went into window and then 
recipients searched for the address I want but I can't find "remove" or 
"delete". anybody know where it is?

thanks.
Lorie

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RE: previous recipients in Apple mail

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes backspace and delete are 2 different keys,
Tim described the keyboard on a notebook
But on your keyboard the backspace key is 2 keys above the return key on the 
main section of your keyboard.

Don’t use the delete key as its not going to work for you in this situation.
You could also think of the back space key as the key below the F13 or eject 
key on your keyboard,
Hope that helps.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 8:07 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: previous recipients in Apple mail

I have a full size keyboard (not bluetooth) on my Mac Mini. backspace and 
delete are different keys on here.


On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I'm saying either the BackSpace or Delete key.  Usually, they are the same key, 
but some people call them differently.  On a Mac laptop, it would be the top 
right most key, not counting the F-key row.  This should be the same on the 
regular Apple keyboard for iMac and MacMinis.  On the Apple Extended keyboard 
with the NumPad, it would be the right most key in the main area of the 
keyboard along the number row.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 18, 2019, at 12:49, Lorie McCloud 
mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

are you saying delete and backspace together or just backspace to delete?


On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:05 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Stop interacting with the table of previous recipients, VO-right once is 
"Remove from List" and once more is "Add to Contacts".  You can also just hit 
the Delete/back Space key to delete an entry.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 17, 2019, at 18:39, Lorie McCloud 
mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I want to clean out my addressbook a little bit. I went into window and then 
recipients searched for the address I want but I can't find "remove" or 
"delete". anybody know where it is?

thanks.
Lorie

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