Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Hey that is great. Tim is the #1 asset to this group.

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On 8/24/2019 5:41 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:

Eureka! Key Chain did it! Hard to believe that something seemingly so unrelated 
could have such an impact. I’ll bet that some other nagging issues will 
suddenly be resolved, as well. Thanks for doing that extra digging.

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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Eureka! Key Chain did it! Hard to believe that something seemingly so unrelated 
could have such an impact. I’ll bet that some other nagging issues will 
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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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   That is where the Sync Now button is located.

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On 8/24/2019 3:50 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:

Starting with Toolbar… Settings Tab (selected) Blocked tab, Apple ID, [my 
appleid], Sign Out button, Enable this Account checked, You can be reached for 
messages at,  at, Table (includes my phone number and my email, phone number is 
checked, email is not), Send read receipts unchecked, When this is checked…, 
[phone number[ start new conversations from  dim, pop up button help button.

That’s it.
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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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Two-factor is definitely enabled. I’ll check on the Key Chain.

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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Starting with Toolbar… Settings Tab (selected) Blocked tab, Apple ID, [my 
appleid], Sign Out button, Enable this Account checked, You can be reached for 
messages at,  at, Table (includes my phone number and my email, phone number is 
checked, email is not), Send read receipts unchecked, When this is checked…, 
[phone number[ start new conversations from  dim, pop up button help button.

That’s it.
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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

According to this support article from Apple:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208532 


You need both 2FA (Two Factor Authentication) enabled and iCloud Keychain 
enabled along with a few encouragements to make sure all MacOS and iOS devices 
are updated to the latest versions.  This may be your issue.  These items can 
be enabled within the iCloud pane of System Prefs.

If you need help, let us know.

Later...


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On Aug 24, 2019, at 16:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

You can ignore my last question.  So, without that checkbox in your Messages 
Prefs window, how do you know that Messages on your Mac is syncing to iCloud?  
That is the box that needs checked in order that Messages does the syncing we 
have. been speaking about.  Do you have Two Factor Authentication enabled for 
your Apple ID?  Does iCloud seem to be signed in properly in System Prefs?

Later...


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On Aug 24, 2019, at 16:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

So what items are in the Settings tab of the iMessages pane?  Use VO-right to 
go through them please.  Just the basic items, not the details within all the 
tables, if possible.

Later...


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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 24, 2019, at 16:25, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Sorry, I did exactly that. No “Sync Now” button. Two tabs, Settings and 
Blocked, and that button shows up nowhere. Not in the Toolbar, either, BTW.

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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Hi,

You can ignore my last question.  So, without that checkbox in your Messages 
Prefs window, how do you know that Messages on your Mac is syncing to iCloud?  
That is the box that needs checked in order that Messages does the syncing we 
have. been speaking about.  Do you have Two Factor Authentication enabled for 
your Apple ID?  Does iCloud seem to be signed in properly in System Prefs?

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On Aug 24, 2019, at 16:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

So what items are in the Settings tab of the iMessages pane?  Use VO-right to 
go through them please.  Just the basic items, not the details within all the 
tables, if possible.

Later...


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On Aug 24, 2019, at 16:25, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Sorry, I did exactly that. No “Sync Now” button. Two tabs, Settings and 
Blocked, and that button shows up nowhere. Not in the Toolbar, either, BTW.

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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Hi,

So what items are in the Settings tab of the iMessages pane?  Use VO-right to 
go through them please.  Just the basic items, not the details within all the 
tables, if possible.

Later...


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On Aug 24, 2019, at 16:25, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Sorry, I did exactly that. No “Sync Now” button. Two tabs, Settings and 
Blocked, and that button shows up nowhere. Not in the Toolbar, either, BTW.

Dave Carlson
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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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That’s where the difference list. I do not have a checkbox mentioning iCloud at 
all. Just enable this account, a table to allow me to select my phone number or 
email to use,  but nothing about iCloud in the iMessage settings.

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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Sorry, I did exactly that. No “Sync Now” button. Two tabs, Settings and 
Blocked, and that button shows up nowhere. Not in the Toolbar, either, BTW.

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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Hi,

Hmmm.  In the iMessages tab of Messages Prefs, with Settings selected, you 
should have your Apple ID and a Sign Out button, then the checkbox for enabling 
Messages in the Cloud, and one VO-right from that is a "Sync Now" button, then 
the rest of the items such as the table with the list of iMessage addresses 
connected with that Apple ID account.

Regarding the left over text from a previous message in the Mac version of 
Messages, that seems to be a bug or some residual syncing issue.  I've seen 
that one lots as well.  I've just got in a habit of making sure to check that 
the field is empty before typing and sending.  I've got caught a few times.  
When in the field, I just do a cmd-a to select all, then press the Delete key.

Later...


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On Aug 24, 2019, at 14:57, Dave Carlson  wrote:

BTW there is no “Sync Now” button in the Messages Preferences pane, neither 
General nor iMessages.

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

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Dave,
   Open Messages preferences. On the toolbar, select iMessage. You will 
find the Sync Now button.


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BTW there is no “Sync Now” button in the Messages Preferences pane, neither 
General nor iMessages.

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Re: Automatic Capture of iPhone Pictures on Mac

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Hi,

If both your iPhone and Mac have photos syncing to iCloud, then use the Photos 
Library on your Mac.  When in the Finder, go to your Home directory, into 
Pictures and copy the Photos Library to your external drive.  It's possible 
that, if your Mac is set to "Optimize" your Photos Library, not all full 
quality originals are stored on your Mac, so you may not be archiving the full 
quality version of a photo.  If your Mac has enough room, you can set the 
Photos service to keep all full quality originals on your Mac as well as in 
iCloud, then when you archive things, you should have the entire picture, so to 
speak.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 15:05, Dave Carlson  wrote:


New Topic….
I know that I have my photos synched through iCloud. But I’d like also to 
capture them to my external archive drive. When I connect my iPhone to the Mac, 
nothing happens, and that makes sense since photos are already backed up to the 
cloud.
How do I get all my photos off the iPhone and stored to my archive drive on the 
Mac, like it used to happen on my Windows PC?
Or is that possible at all?

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Automatic Capture of iPhone Pictures on Mac

[Dave Carlson]

New Topic….
I know that I have my photos synched through iCloud. But I’d like also to 
capture them to my external archive drive. When I connect my iPhone to the Mac, 
nothing happens, and that makes sense since photos are already backed up to the 
cloud.
How do I get all my photos off the iPhone and stored to my archive drive on the 
Mac, like it used to happen on my Windows PC?
Or is that possible at all?

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

[Dave Carlson]

Yep. Same behavior for me. And to me that is definitely not expected behavior.

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

[Dave Carlson]

BTW there is no “Sync Now” button in the Messages Preferences pane, neither 
General nor iMessages.

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

[Dave Carlson]

Yes, and yes to both. As I said, any current messages are now synched, but 
everything in the past never updates, and deletions of those old ones do not 
carry over.

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Re: Looking for information on how to subscribe to the Apple beta testers email list?

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public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io


want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I will 
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> On Aug 24, 2019, at 3:26 PM, maurice.mines  wrote:
> 
> Hello, my subject line pretty much says that all. I’m having beta test 
> issues but of course cannot discuss the open meet on a list. So I am 
> wondering if there is an email list that has been set up specifically for the 
> purpose of those of us were beta testing discussing issues amongst ourselves. 
> I hope someone has information that could be helpful? Thank you in advance.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> 
> 
> PS one final small question, is when Kong even usable with VoiceOver?
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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi all,
I’ve been keeping up with this thread but now I’m a bit confused. My messages 
on both devices seem to be sinking okay and if I message my wife on my Mac 
it’ll update on the iPhone and the other way around. However if I delete a 
message thread on the phone it’ll stay on the Mac and vice versa. Is this 
normal? 
Now I know this isn’t normal. I messaged my wife from the Mac early on in the 
week as my phone was charging in the bedroom and I was making breakfast and my 
Mac was near by on the dining table. The message went through fine, but a 
couple of days later I went to message her again using the Mac and the edit 
field in the messages app still had the first line of text in it from a couple 
of days  before. Even tho the entire message got sent. This has happened quite 
a few times. 

> On 25/08/2019, at 6:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> In Messages Prefs on your Mac, in the General pane, do you have it set to 
> "Forever" there?  I believe that you had it set to "Forever" on your phone, 
> but just making sure that it's set on the Mac as well.  In the Accounts pane 
> in Messages Prefs on the Mac, make sure that your phone number is checked.  
> Have you pressed the "Sync Now" button in that pane?
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 24, 2019, at 09:08, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Good to hear that it’s working for some. But none of my past conversations 
> have updated on the Mac. They are all current on the iPhone, which is the 
> older of my two devices. I’ve only had my Mac connected up for a couple 
> months, so I think that is at the root of why my older conversations are not 
> updating. But why they do not update is the question. I would expect them to 
> do so via iCloud, and those older ones are not. The Mac has no idea that they 
> are much newer. The conversations I do have on the Mac were originally 
> gathered when I first set up the Mac. Something is not right.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
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Looking for information on how to subscribe to the Apple beta testers email list?

[maurice.mines]

Hello, my subject line pretty much says that all. I’m having beta test 
issues but of course cannot discuss the open meet on a list. So I am 
wondering if there is an email list that has been set up specifically 
for the purpose of those of us were beta testing discussing issues 
amongst ourselves. I hope someone has information that could be helpful? 
Thank you in advance.


Sincerely Maurice Mines.


PS one final small question, is when Kong even usable with VoiceOver?

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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

In Messages Prefs on your Mac, in the General pane, do you have it set to 
"Forever" there?  I believe that you had it set to "Forever" on your phone, but 
just making sure that it's set on the Mac as well.  In the Accounts pane in 
Messages Prefs on the Mac, make sure that your phone number is checked.  Have 
you pressed the "Sync Now" button in that pane?

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 24, 2019, at 09:08, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Good to hear that it’s working for some. But none of my past conversations have 
updated on the Mac. They are all current on the iPhone, which is the older of 
my two devices. I’ve only had my Mac connected up for a couple months, so I 
think that is at the root of why my older conversations are not updating. But 
why they do not update is the question. I would expect them to do so via 
iCloud, and those older ones are not. The Mac has no idea that they are much 
newer. The conversations I do have on the Mac were originally gathered when I 
first set up the Mac. Something is not right.

Dave Carlson
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RE: How to Protect and Clean your Apple Card, Apple Support

[M. Taylor]

Ah, My Dear Simon.  You've got it my friend.  (big smile).

Okay, because I couldn't resist, I am going to paste in three comments, about 
Apple Card, from Twitter that made me laugh:


Comment 1:
Gently rub the fragile & special Apple credit card with microfiber. Also keep 
it away from any normal clothing. Maybe even have special ‘bearers’ wearing 
black turtlenecks that carry it around in an aluminum box with silk lining. 
Peak Apple right here. It was fun while it lasted.

Comment 2:
Never place near other cards.
Do not look directly at card.
Anoint with myrrh and frankincense once per month. 

Comment 3:
Thou shall have no other cards before Apple Card.
Thou shall make no graven image of the Apple Card.
Thou shall not use the Apple Card in vain.
Remember Black Friday and keep it Holy.
Honor Thy Apple Employees.

(big smile).

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 4:35 AM
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: How to Protect and Clean your Apple Card, Apple Support

Ok, I'm concerned I'm going crazy or the world has completely flipped the 
cheese from it's cracker.

don’t' use compressed air on one of the toughest light weight metals available 
on the planet, note they use titanium on space craft due to weight and 
toughness.

Really, compressed air is bad!? 

 Don’t' put the apple credit card in your denam jeans or leather pants pockets,

Unless I have a job interview or go to a wedding or possibly a funeral  I only 
ware jeans,  How does fabric take the colour out of a titanium credit card?

Don't put your card near a magnet  ok, makes sence,

 I'll take my credit card,
And 2 eftpos cards out of my phone case which has a magnetic catch and oh my 
iPhone has a charging coil which could have magnetic effects,

 What the F* is this company doing
Who comes up with this stuff.

This is like the put your iPhone in the microwave to charge it gag,

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2019 2:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to Protect and Clean your Apple Card, Apple Support

Hello Everyone,

I can hardly catch my breath as I have just been reading the seemingly endless 
jokes about the Apple Card and its unique cleaning instructions, on Twitter, on 
the Apple Insider feed.  

Man!  I've never come across such a wonderful treasure trove of jokes in my 
life.  

I wonder if Apple is laughing, also.  Probably not but, then again, they are 
the ones who released the cards so, let the jokes fall where they may.

All of the jokes are based on the article, posted below:

Enjoy,

Mark

How to clean your Apple Card
See how to protect and maintain the condition of your titanium Apple Card.
 
About the titanium Apple Card
The titanium Apple Card is laser-etched with the card holder's name and the 
Apple logo. A white finish is achieved through a multi-layer coating process 
that's added to the titanium base material.
If your titanium Apple Card comes into contact with hard surfaces or materials, 
it's possible that the coating can be damaged.
 
How to clean your titanium Apple Card
If your titanium Apple Card comes into contact with contaminants that can cause 
stains, follow these steps to clean your card:
1.  Gently wipe with a soft, slightly damp, lint-free microfiber cloth.
2.  Moisten a soft, microfiber cloth with isopropyl alcohol and gently
wipe the card.
Don't use window or household cleaners, compressed air, aerosol sprays, 
solvents, ammonia, or abrasives to clean your titanium Apple Card.
Some fabrics, like leather and denim, might cause permanent discoloration that 
will not wash off.
 
How to safely store and carry your titanium Apple Card
.   Store your titanium Apple Card in a wallet, pocket, or bag made of
soft materials.
.   Place your card in a slot in your wallet or billfold without
touching another credit card. If two credit cards are placed in the same slot 
your card could become scratched.
.   Don't place or store your titanium Apple Card card near magnets. If
your card is placed close to a magnetic latch on a purse or bag, the magnetic 
strip can become demagnetized.
.   Don't place your titanium Apple Card in a pocket or bag that
contains loose change, keys, or other potentially abrasive objects.
Learn more
.   See how to request a replacement titanium Apple Card
.   Learn how to clean your other Apple products

Original Article at:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210399



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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

[Dave Carlson]

Good to hear that it’s working for some. But none of my past conversations have 
updated on the Mac. They are all current on the iPhone, which is the older of 
my two devices. I’ve only had my Mac connected up for a couple months, so I 
think that is at the root of why my older conversations are not updating. But 
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iCloud, and those older ones are not. The Mac has no idea that they are much 
newer. The conversations I do have on the Mac were originally gathered when I 
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Dave Carlson
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Re: Ringer Volume Question

[Pete De Vasto]

Thanks, Tim, yes that did in fact clear things up for me. I think I was not 
patient enough when changing the setting to on, then actually using the phone. 
Yes, it’s doing exactly what I want now.

Pete

> On Aug 23, 2019, at 1:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> That setting is the one you need.  If it says, "Change with buttons.  Off.", 
> then the ringer will stay at one volume no matter what you do with the volume 
> of music, VO etc.  If that setting says, "Change with buttons.  On.", then 
> whatever volume you have VO, music etc set to will be the volume of the 
> ringer when a call comes in.
> 
> Hope that clears things up for you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 23, 2019, at 13:47, Pete De Vasto  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there a way I can set my iPhone 7’s  ring volume to a single level, and 
> then have that level go up and down as I adjust the master volume? I’m going 
> crazy because if I set the ringer volume too low and it does not adjust with 
> the master volume, I don’t hear it so I’ll miss a call or text. So I’d like 
> to set the ringer volume to about the same level as VO, and then adjust as 
> needed. I hope this is making sense. I know there’s an option for change with 
> buttons in the ringer settings, I guess I’m just not completely understanding 
> how it works.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Hmmm.  Just to add to the other side of the coin.  Other than sometimes being 
slow to sync, mine works as it should.  Even complicated scenarios.  For 
example, while I was in England through July, I used an EE sim card and thus a 
UK phone number.  This new number automatically added to my Apple ID, and I 
initiated past conversations so that folks would have my UK number in case they 
needed to contact me.  All conversations, whether individual or multiple group 
style conversation, re-synced themselves so that I maintained the same threads. 
 Upon my return to Canada, I put my Telus sim card back in my iPhone and had a 
challenge for for the rest of the day as one of my group conversations had 
duplicated.  This fixed itself overnight and now everything is back to the way 
it should be.  In the big scheme of things, this scenario was fairly 
complicated, and the Messages iCloud syncing process worked.  My messages are 
also set to keep things forever and back conversations are fine.  So, my point 
is that I don't believe that Apple dropped the ball on this one at all.  It 
works properly for some and others appear to have issues.  We just need to 
figure out the process for clearing up those issues.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 24, 2019, at 07:51, Dave Carlson  wrote:

More grist for the mill…What I’m observing, regardless of turning iMessages 
off/on on both devices and restarting, is that the only conversations that are 
updating are those that have been used since I got the Mac and iPhone so-called 
synchronized. All other conversations are still stuck way back in time. They do 
not update to the newest messages, regardless of what I do. So I don’t consider 
this to be a working process.
I do have my messages set to keep forever on both devices — wonder if that is 
part of the problem? Intuitively that does not seem correct. History should 
ensure that all updates are the same on all devices. I think Apple dropped the 
pie on this one.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer



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Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

[Dave Carlson]

More grist for the mill…What I’m observing, regardless of turning iMessages 
off/on on both devices and restarting, is that the only conversations that are 
updating are those that have been used since I got the Mac and iPhone so-called 
synchronized. All other conversations are still stuck way back in time. They do 
not update to the newest messages, regardless of what I do. So I don’t consider 
this to be a working process.
I do have my messages set to keep forever on both devices — wonder if that is 
part of the problem? Intuitively that does not seem correct. History should 
ensure that all updates are the same on all devices. I think Apple dropped the 
pie on this one.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer



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RE: when making phone calls.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Kawal,

Could you flick me an email off list please?

si...@fogarty.net.nz

Cheers,

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2019 8:49 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: when making phone calls.

Hello. 

Yesterday I was travelling and I had my I phone connected to my Aftershokz and 
Apple watch. When I received a call, the phone would ring and I would hear the 
sound in my Aftershokz headset. However when the person started to speak the 
voice would only be heard on the I phone speaker. Is there a setting in the 
phone where you can hear the sound routed automatically so if your head set is 
connected and you have your Apple watch connected the voice will be heard in 
your headset please.

I hope all this makes sense.

Thank you very much.

Kawal.
 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: when making phone calls.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Kawal,

I some times get this also,

I find that if I take my earpods out of one ear and put it back in then things 
kick in to life correctly.

 Have you tried turning the after shocks off and back on to push the connection 
back to the phone?

 I also know that if the phones are connected to one device I have to change 
manually to the other but I'm not sure if your aftershocks do this type of 
thing.

Hope this helps.

Simon F


-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2019 8:49 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: when making phone calls.

Hello. 

Yesterday I was travelling and I had my I phone connected to my Aftershokz and 
Apple watch. When I received a call, the phone would ring and I would hear the 
sound in my Aftershokz headset. However when the person started to speak the 
voice would only be heard on the I phone speaker. Is there a setting in the 
phone where you can hear the sound routed automatically so if your head set is 
connected and you have your Apple watch connected the voice will be heard in 
your headset please.

I hope all this makes sense.

Thank you very much.

Kawal.
 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: How to Protect and Clean your Apple Card, Apple Support

[Simon Fogarty]

Ok, I'm concerned I'm going crazy or the world has completely flipped the 
cheese from it's cracker.

don’t' use compressed air on one of the toughest light weight metals available 
on the planet,
note they use titanium on space craft due to weight and toughness.

Really, compressed air is bad!? 

 Don’t' put the apple credit card in your denam jeans or leather pants pockets,

Unless I have a job interview or go to a wedding or possibly a funeral  I only 
ware jeans,
 How does fabric take the colour out of a titanium credit card?

Don't put your card near a magnet  ok, makes sence,

 I'll take my credit card,
And 2 eftpos cards out of my phone case which has a magnetic catch and oh my 
iPhone has a charging coil which could have magnetic effects,

 What the F* is this company doing 
Who comes up with this stuff.

This is like the put your iPhone in the microwave to charge it gag,

 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2019 2:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to Protect and Clean your Apple Card, Apple Support

Hello Everyone,

I can hardly catch my breath as I have just been reading the seemingly endless 
jokes about the Apple Card and its unique cleaning instructions, on Twitter, on 
the Apple Insider feed.  

Man!  I've never come across such a wonderful treasure trove of jokes in my 
life.  

I wonder if Apple is laughing, also.  Probably not but, then again, they are 
the ones who released the cards so, let the jokes fall where they may.

All of the jokes are based on the article, posted below:

Enjoy,

Mark

How to clean your Apple Card
See how to protect and maintain the condition of your titanium Apple Card.
 
About the titanium Apple Card
The titanium Apple Card is laser-etched with the card holder's name and the 
Apple logo. A white finish is achieved through a multi-layer coating process 
that's added to the titanium base material.
If your titanium Apple Card comes into contact with hard surfaces or materials, 
it's possible that the coating can be damaged.
 
How to clean your titanium Apple Card
If your titanium Apple Card comes into contact with contaminants that can cause 
stains, follow these steps to clean your card:
1.  Gently wipe with a soft, slightly damp, lint-free microfiber cloth.
2.  Moisten a soft, microfiber cloth with isopropyl alcohol and gently
wipe the card.
Don't use window or household cleaners, compressed air, aerosol sprays, 
solvents, ammonia, or abrasives to clean your titanium Apple Card.
Some fabrics, like leather and denim, might cause permanent discoloration that 
will not wash off.
 
How to safely store and carry your titanium Apple Card
.   Store your titanium Apple Card in a wallet, pocket, or bag made of
soft materials.
.   Place your card in a slot in your wallet or billfold without
touching another credit card. If two credit cards are placed in the same slot 
your card could become scratched.
.   Don't place or store your titanium Apple Card card near magnets. If
your card is placed close to a magnetic latch on a purse or bag, the magnetic 
strip can become demagnetized.
.   Don't place your titanium Apple Card in a pocket or bag that
contains loose change, keys, or other potentially abrasive objects.
Learn more
.   See how to request a replacement titanium Apple Card
.   Learn how to clean your other Apple products

Original Article at:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210399



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RE: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

This I’m finding interesting,

I’m noticing the same thing on or between my iPhone x and apple watch Series 4,

I’m noticing that the messages I have  showing on my devices don’t sync with 
each other correctly if at all.

I have a happit of deleting messages that are one off or not part of a 
conversation with friends or family,

If I delete one of these messages through the messages app on my watch it 
doesn’t delete from my phones messaging app,

And the same is happening in the opposite way,

I thought this might be due to running a beta on my phone but it appears there 
may be more going on.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2019 2:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Synchronizing Messages Between Mac and iPhone

I only syncronize between and iPhone and a Mac, but what I’ve found does work 
for me is to go into Messages on my Mac, VO navigate over to the conversations 
table, select a different conversation and briefly look at contents, then go 
back to the original conversation and everything seems to be OK. Sounds weird, 
but works for me.

Pete De Vasto


On Aug 23, 2019, at 7:11 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

These work more or less normally for me.  Sometimes, messages take a little 
extra time to sync, especially when messing with changing phone numbers in 
group conversations, but works as it should in time.  Contacts don't always 
sync immediately, but will within less than one minute after opening the app.  
If you have messages syncing to iCloud, then I suggest that you turn iMessages 
off on the iPhone, restart the iPhone, then re-enable the iMessages service.  
Because things are synced to iCloud, you shouldn't lose anything.  Similarly, 
you can do this on each of your other devices including your Mac if things 
don't fix themselves after doing it on the iPhone.  A simple restart will not 
suffice, it seems like the resources connected with the iMessage service need a 
reset, which is done by kind of resetting the service as I mentioned.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 23, 2019, at 07:56, Steve Matzura 
mailto:numb...@noisynotes.com>> wrote:

Yes, Dave. There's definitely something odd about this. I have to say, though, 
that while I'm not pleased about it, I'm a little pleased to find out it's not 
just me. LOL.


On 8/23/2019 9:46 AM, Dave Carlson wrote:

Steve,
Yes, and my wife who is sighted also has the same behavior with her Mac, iPad, 
and iPhone. It seems like we need to have some sort of refresh process for 
iCloud that is either set to update periodically or is set to sync continuously 
when anything changes, whether an addition to , or a removal of items in the 
Messages or Contacts. In my experience, both Mail and Calendar work fine and 
are always in sync — so why not the others? And I’ve not even started looking 
at Notes and Voice Memos  to see if there are any concern there.
Dave Carlson

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Re: when making phone calls.

[Raymond Foret Jr]

You need to go in to settings/General/Accessibility/Hearing and select to 
default to earphones or the default setting should work.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Aug 24, 2019, at 3:49 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello. 
> 
> Yesterday I was travelling and I had my I phone connected to my Aftershokz 
> and Apple watch. When I received a call, the phone would ring and I would 
> hear the sound in my Aftershokz headset. However when the person started to 
> speak the voice would only be heard on the I phone speaker. Is there a 
> setting in the phone where you can hear the sound routed automatically so if 
> your head set is connected and you have your Apple watch connected the voice 
> will be heard in your headset please.
> 
> I hope all this makes sense.
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> 
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Re: How to Protect and Clean your Apple Card, Apple Support

[lenron brown]

well maybe they should have made the card out of something else. Don't
think I am going to get this one, and if I do I don't want a physical
card.

On 8/23/19, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> While that may seem funny, if you got the card for its show value, then
> it's to be taken seriously. Titanium is a soft metal, easily scratched.
> The laser-etched logo and holoimaging processes are also easily damaged
> by coming into contact with  rough cloth. What Apple (or the actual
> physical card issuer) should do is issue the card in a protective
> sleeve, even one with a thin foil surrounding it to help protect it
> against magnetic damage as described in the article. EZ-Pass
> transponders come in these kinds of sleeve protectors.
>
>
> On 8/23/2019 10:08 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I can hardly catch my breath as I have just been reading the seemingly
>> endless jokes about the Apple Card and its unique cleaning instructions,
>> on
>> Twitter, on the Apple Insider feed.
>>
>> Man!  I've never come across such a wonderful treasure trove of jokes in
>> my
>> life.
>>
>> I wonder if Apple is laughing, also.  Probably not but, then again, they
>> are
>> the ones who released the cards so, let the jokes fall where they may.
>>
>> All of the jokes are based on the article, posted below:
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> How to clean your Apple Card
>> See how to protect and maintain the condition of your titanium Apple
>> Card.
>>
>> About the titanium Apple Card
>> The titanium Apple Card is laser-etched with the card holder's name and
>> the
>> Apple logo. A white finish is achieved through a multi-layer coating
>> process
>> that's added to the titanium base material.
>> If your titanium Apple Card comes into contact with hard surfaces or
>> materials, it's possible that the coating can be damaged.
>>
>> How to clean your titanium Apple Card
>> If your titanium Apple Card comes into contact with contaminants that can
>> cause stains, follow these steps to clean your card:
>> 1.   Gently wipe with a soft, slightly damp, lint-free microfiber cloth.
>> 2.   Moisten a soft, microfiber cloth with isopropyl alcohol and gently
>> wipe the card.
>> Don't use window or household cleaners, compressed air, aerosol sprays,
>> solvents, ammonia, or abrasives to clean your titanium Apple Card.
>> Some fabrics, like leather and denim, might cause permanent discoloration
>> that will not wash off.
>>
>> How to safely store and carry your titanium Apple Card
>> .Store your titanium Apple Card in a wallet, pocket, or bag made of
>> soft materials.
>> .Place your card in a slot in your wallet or billfold without
>> touching another credit card. If two credit cards are placed in the same
>> slot your card could become scratched.
>> .Don't place or store your titanium Apple Card card near magnets. If
>> your card is placed close to a magnetic latch on a purse or bag, the
>> magnetic strip can become demagnetized.
>> .Don't place your titanium Apple Card in a pocket or bag that
>> contains loose change, keys, or other potentially abrasive objects.
>> Learn more
>> .See how to request a replacement titanium Apple Card
>> .Learn how to clean your other Apple products
>>
>> Original Article at:
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210399
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Re: Question about TunesKit Audiobook Converter

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,

If I remember correctly, I, too, had trouble changing the output format to the 
one I wanted.  I had to ask assistance from a sighted person.  This list of 
options seems to be not accessible to Voiceovre user.

Andrew

> On 21 Aug 2019, at 02:47, Jenny Wood  wrote:
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> Hello all!
> 
> I am hoping someone here can point me in the right direction. :-) I am 
> running Mac OS 10.14, and I just purchased and installed TunesKit Audiobook 
> Converter. However, when I select my .AAX file to be converted, the only 
> format option accessible to me is M4V. When I click on the “Lossless M4V” 
> button, which is presumably where I would go to change the format to MP3, I 
> am not given any other options. If I convert the file anyway, the output file 
> comes out as an .M4A. Does anyone have any ideas as to what I may be missing? 
> There just doesn’t seem to be much to the program itself, so I am really 
> scratching my head over this one. 
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Jenny  
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when making phone calls.

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hello. 

Yesterday I was travelling and I had my I phone connected to my Aftershokz and 
Apple watch. When I received a call, the phone would ring and I would hear the 
sound in my Aftershokz headset. However when the person started to speak the 
voice would only be heard on the I phone speaker. Is there a setting in the 
phone where you can hear the sound routed automatically so if your head set is 
connected and you have your Apple watch connected the voice will be heard in 
your headset please.

I hope all this makes sense.

Thank you very much.

Kawal.
 

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