RE: Is there anybody out there?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry Tim,

What’s 4am?

I’ve got a current habit of not sleeping a lot therefore lots of coffee and and 
energy drinks make the day somewhat livable

Oh well may be this weekend I’ll sleep for a few days.
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2019 4:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Is there anybody out there?

Hi,

Usually, after all that drinking, I didn't remember those days ;).

Simon, it was ruddy 4 AM over here.  At least where I am in Minneapolis this 
week.  Sleeping at 4 AM is a good thing, although, if I recall correctly, I 
actually wasn't properly asleep at 4 this morning.  Silly me.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 12, 2019, at 17:28, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ah yes, I remember those days.


On 13/11/2019, at 11:24, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

You guys wouldn't make the kiwi lifestyle.

Sleeping is cheating
Or at least it was 20 years ago when I could drink all niht and most of the day.

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   The party is long over, everyone went home to sleep it off.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/12/2019 2:02 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Just thought the list was a bit quieter than usual and I’d make sure
we were still alive.

So if your not,

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Re: How to Temporarily Switch Out of Spell Check

[Dave Carlson]

Jonathan,
No, that’s great. I appreciate your help, and especially how you arrived
 at your solution. I think I’ll try turning off spell-checking, and 
 hopefully remember to manually check spelling before I send


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Re: How to Temporarily Switch Out of Spell Check

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So the bug is that if a message is being auto-spell checked, if it becomes the 
frontmost window (focused) then the assumption is that spell check is finished 
and the message should be sent. Even if the spell check window is still open. 
You can review the message by turning off cursor tracking and then switching 
the VO cursor to the message window. As long as you don’t close the spell 
checker and don’t cause the message window to be in front of the spellchecker I 
believe the message will not send. Probably best to remember to spell check 
before clicking send. BTW, I believe this bug has been around for at least 8 
years, because I have had this option turned off in Macintosh mail even though 
I have it turned on in Outlook as one of the first things I do.
Another option would be to look at Outlook or another Mail client.
I hope this message was clear enough, and my apologies for all the replies.
Jonathan
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Re: How to Temporarily Switch Out of Spell Check

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OK, there is a bit of a bug there. I tried a second time with the message to 
you and it got sent after I did a window list and activated the window with the 
message. You might be able to get this to behave by first turning off cursor 
tracking, so that when the VO cursor moves into the message window it doesn’t 
pull the focus with it. I’ll go ahead and OK I think you found a bug there. 
misspell and see if I can get that to work with this message. 

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> David,
> Pressing the command-semicolon stroke twice when I have check spelling set to 
> when I send a message caused me to get back into the message. I would have 
> expected to only tneed to  type it once, but it did indeed work for me.
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>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Dave Carlson > > wrote:
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>> a 1. Turn on check spelling when sending messages. 2. Create a mail message 
>> with a spelling error in it. a 3. click send  chef.  
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Re: How to Temporarily Switch Out of Spell Check

[Jonathan Cohn]

David,
Pressing the command-semicolon stroke twice when I have check spelling set to 
when I send a message caused me to get back into the message. I would have 
expected to only tneed to  type it once, but it did indeed work for me.


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Re: Is there anybody out there?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Usually, after all that drinking, I didn't remember those days ;).

Simon, it was ruddy 4 AM over here.  At least where I am in Minneapolis this 
week.  Sleeping at 4 AM is a good thing, although, if I recall correctly, I 
actually wasn't properly asleep at 4 this morning.  Silly me.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 12, 2019, at 17:28, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Ah yes, I remember those days. 

> On 13/11/2019, at 11:24, Simon A Fogarty  > wrote:
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> You guys wouldn't make the kiwi lifestyle.
> 
> Sleeping is cheating 
> Or at least it was 20 years ago when I could drink all niht and most of the 
> day.
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>The party is long over, everyone went home to sleep it off.
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Re: How to set Font Size in Text Edit?

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Hi Jonathan,

I am well, thanks.  Yes, they are RTF files. But Barry's solutions worked 
perfectly.

Hope you are well, too.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 7:50 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Just to be sure, these are rtf or doc or docx files and not plain text ones?
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>> I've been having trouble changing the font size in Text Edit documents.  I 
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>> list.  Then I hear VO say Confirm, but there doesn't seem to be anything to 
>> click on.  I hear the VO thunk when I press Enter, Spacebar, or try and 
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>> TIA,
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Re: How to set Font Size in Text Edit?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, thanks for that. I'd forgotten about it!  Lacking the edit box, that's very 
helpful!
Cheers,
Donna


> On Nov 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
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> Another way that I just found is to make selected text smaller or larger with 
> command-- or command-+ respectively.
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> I believe Tim was referring to the show font dialog with command-t.
> So, there you have it.  You can forget about the mouse all together.
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>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> I am able to do this if I rout the mouse to vo and either click the combobox 
>> or click a value in the list.
>> Did you rout the mouse to vo before you tried clicking with the track pad?
>> Later.
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 13:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>>> I used to do that, too, but I don't get that field any more.  All I get is 
>>> the combo box.  do you know how to bring the field back?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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 Hi,
 
 I usually just enter it in the field then close the Font window and it 
 applies it.
 
 Later...
 
 
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 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Jamf Certified Associate
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 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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 Hi all,
 
 I've been having trouble changing the font size in Text Edit documents.  I 
 select the text, click on the font size, select the size I want from the 
 list.  Then I hear VO say Confirm, but there doesn't seem to be anything 
 to click on.  I hear the VO thunk when I press Enter, Spacebar, or try and 
 click on the Trackpad.  Nothing seems to make the font selection stick.  
 Can anyone tell me how to do this?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: How to set Font Size in Text Edit?

[Barry Hadder]

Another way that I just found is to make selected text smaller or larger with 
command-- or command-+ respectively.

I believe Tim was referring to the show font dialog with command-t.
So, there you have it.  You can forget about the mouse all together.

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 19:39, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> I am able to do this if I rout the mouse to vo and either click the combobox 
> or click a value in the list.
> Did you rout the mouse to vo before you tried clicking with the track pad?
> Later.
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 13:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I used to do that, too, but I don't get that field any more.  All I get is 
>> the combo box.  do you know how to bring the field back?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I usually just enter it in the field then close the Font window and it 
>>> applies it.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Jamf Certified Associate
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>>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 08:07, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've been having trouble changing the font size in Text Edit documents.  I 
>>> select the text, click on the font size, select the size I want from the 
>>> list.  Then I hear VO say Confirm, but there doesn't seem to be anything to 
>>> click on.  I hear the VO thunk when I press Enter, Spacebar, or try and 
>>> click on the Trackpad.  Nothing seems to make the font selection stick.  
>>> Can anyone tell me how to do this?
>>> TIA,
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Re: Fan runs on hi speed when Installed catalina.

[Jonathan Cohn]

I highly doubt that re-installing the OS would do anything. If it has been less 
than a couple of hours since your install I would logout and let your computer 
sit with login prompt for a bit. MacOS does have some utility work to do after 
the upgrade. Otherwise, see if you can give a more specific process name.

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> After i upgraded to Catalina my fan on my Macbook air has become very active 
> even when its not needed.
> SO i checked with the activity control and VoiceoVer  takes 56% of processor 
> usage.
> There’s also a service called something like accessibilityview that takes up 
> 55% of processor usage.
> So i decided to reset the pram in order to stop this.
> BUt it seems that it doesn’t help.
> Are there some things i can do before i decide to reinstall the OS?
> I don’t know why this behaviour occures but it does.
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: How to set Font Size in Text Edit?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Donna,
Just to be sure, these are rtf or doc or docx files and not plain text ones?
Hope you are well.
Jonathan 


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> I've been having trouble changing the font size in Text Edit documents.  I 
> select the text, click on the font size, select the size I want from the 
> list.  Then I hear VO say Confirm, but there doesn't seem to be anything to 
> click on.  I hear the VO thunk when I press Enter, Spacebar, or try and click 
> on the Trackpad.  Nothing seems to make the font selection stick.  Can anyone 
> tell me how to do this?
> TIA,
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Re: How to set Font Size in Text Edit?

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Hi Donna,

I am able to do this if I rout the mouse to vo and either click the combobox or 
click a value in the list.
Did you rout the mouse to vo before you tried clicking with the track pad?
Later.

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 13:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> I used to do that, too, but I don't get that field any more.  All I get is 
> the combo box.  do you know how to bring the field back?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I usually just enter it in the field then close the Font window and it 
>> applies it.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
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>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 08:07, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've been having trouble changing the font size in Text Edit documents.  I 
>> select the text, click on the font size, select the size I want from the 
>> list.  Then I hear VO say Confirm, but there doesn't seem to be anything to 
>> click on.  I hear the VO thunk when I press Enter, Spacebar, or try and 
>> click on the Trackpad.  Nothing seems to make the font selection stick.  Can 
>> anyone tell me how to do this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Searching in mail.

[Barry Hadder]

Another possibility for people who don't have the search is to try forcing the 
toolbar to use the default set.
In the customize toolbar dialog, move to the default set of toolbar items image 
and bring up the context menu.


> On Nov 11, 2019, at 18:48, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> It seems to be a flaw in either the upgrade to Catalina Mail, or I'm not sure 
> why it happened if you were doing a clean install.  When I contacted Apple 
> Accessibility about it, they said that all I needed to do was go under the 
> View menu, down to Customize ToolBar, and drag the search item from there 
> into the ToolBar.  It doesn't work though as the style of dialog that 
> presents when choosing the customization will not work for VO dragging.  I've 
> let them know and they have supposedly passed it on to the necessary people.  
> So, you'll either need sighted assistance, or do some guess moving with the 
> Trackpad or mouse to try to get it into the ToolBar.  I've got it back, but I 
> think that it was just dumb luck.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 11, 2019, at 05:51, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
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> Hi Folks!
> In Mojave i had no problems searching in a mailbox from the toolbar.
> I want to find a specific mail i have saved.
> Now the search seems gone from the toolbar but i guess you can find that mail 
> by pressing cmd f.
> I have tried that but have no luck.
> Should i stand in the list of mails or doesn’t that matter?
> I am not really friend with Catalina yet to be honnest.
> /A
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Re: Wish List

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Ended up doing this on the iPhone which still has the iTunes Store 
app. Interesting.


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On 11/10/2019 1:02 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

ET
An obvious question but just in case… Did you try using the item chooser?
Jonathan



On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:55 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  I had read somewhere the option was available bu clicking the 
buy/rent button. The dialog must be invisible to Voiceover. Up Next 
does not have a wish list. So I surmise that Apple has more work to do.


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On 11/10/2019 7:48 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
It looks like the Wish List has been replaced by Up Next.  So, if you 
press the "Add to Up Next" button, then you can easily choose it at a 
later time by checking in your Up Next under Watch Now.  That's the 
best I can figure out.

Later...
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Nov 9, 2019, at 16:25, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:

  Anyone find the button to add movies to the wish list under Catalina?
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Re: Is there anybody out there?

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Ah yes, I remember those days. 

> On 13/11/2019, at 11:24, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> You guys wouldn't make the kiwi lifestyle.
> 
> Sleeping is cheating 
> Or at least it was 20 years ago when I could drink all niht and most of the 
> day.
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> -Original Message-
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>The party is long over, everyone went home to sleep it off.
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>> we were still alive.
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>> So if your not,
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Re: Fan runs on hi speed when Installed catalina.

['Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Anders,  I found the  same thing with my MacBook air too initially.  I’d 
turned on voice control, just to check it out, and see if i had much use for 
it, or could use it with VO, and I found that  the dictation process, was like 
eating up have my CPU.  switching off voice control did the  trick.   the fan 
slowed right down.  Not sure  if you’ve got that, or some aspect of dictation 
enabled, but if you do, you might try turning that  off, and see if that  calms 
things down.  

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> After i upgraded to Catalina my fan on my Macbook air has become very active 
> even when its not needed.
> SO i checked with the activity control and VoiceoVer  takes 56% of processor 
> usage.
> There’s also a service called something like accessibilityview that takes up 
> 55% of processor usage.
> So i decided to reset the pram in order to stop this.
> BUt it seems that it doesn’t help.
> Are there some things i can do before i decide to reinstall the OS?
> I don’t know why this behaviour occures but it does.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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RE: Is there anybody out there?

[Simon A Fogarty]

You guys wouldn't make the kiwi lifestyle.

 Sleeping is cheating 
Or at least it was 20 years ago when I could drink all niht and most of the day.

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The party is long over, everyone went home to sleep it off.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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> we were still alive.
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RE: Is there anybody out there?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Well picked,

And no it was just a question on whether anyone was alive,



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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What’s this, are we reciting Pink Floyd lyrics now? I protest, this is 
off-topic.
Sent from my IPhone



On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:22 AM, gerrycook 
mailto:gerryc...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:

Hi simon hope your well!



On 12 Nov 2019, at 9:02 pm, Simon A Fogarty 
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Just thought the list was a bit quieter than usual and I’d make sure we were 
still alive.

So if your not,
Just let us know!



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RE: Is there anybody out there?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Jerry,

Yeah life on the list was so quiet I thought the world was asleep.

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Hi simon hope your well!



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Just thought the list was a bit quieter than usual and I’d make sure we were 
still alive.

So if your not,
Just let us know!



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Re: Searching in mail.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi Tim!
Thanks for answering this.
Also thanks for  your kindness to contact apple accessibility.
I resolved it by using mail on my Iphone as it was an icloud acount.
I do hope they fix this issue though.
/A

> 12 nov. 2019 kl. 01:48 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> It seems to be a flaw in either the upgrade to Catalina Mail, or I'm not sure 
> why it happened if you were doing a clean install.  When I contacted Apple 
> Accessibility about it, they said that all I needed to do was go under the 
> View menu, down to Customize ToolBar, and drag the search item from there 
> into the ToolBar.  It doesn't work though as the style of dialog that 
> presents when choosing the customization will not work for VO dragging.  I've 
> let them know and they have supposedly passed it on to the necessary people.  
> So, you'll either need sighted assistance, or do some guess moving with the 
> Trackpad or mouse to try to get it into the ToolBar.  I've got it back, but I 
> think that it was just dumb luck.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 11, 2019, at 05:51, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
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> Hi Folks!
> In Mojave i had no problems searching in a mailbox from the toolbar.
> I want to find a specific mail i have saved.
> Now the search seems gone from the toolbar but i guess you can find that mail 
> by pressing cmd f.
> I have tried that but have no luck.
> Should i stand in the list of mails or doesn’t that matter?
> I am not really friend with Catalina yet to be honnest.
> /A
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Fan runs on hi speed when Installed catalina.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
After i upgraded to Catalina my fan on my Macbook air has become very active 
even when its not needed.
SO i checked with the activity control and VoiceoVer  takes 56% of processor 
usage.
There’s also a service called something like accessibilityview that takes up 
55% of processor usage.
So i decided to reset the pram in order to stop this.
BUt it seems that it doesn’t help.
Are there some things i can do before i decide to reinstall the OS?
I don’t know why this behaviour occures but it does.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Re: How to set Font Size in Text Edit?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I used to do that, too, but I don't get that field any more.  All I get is the 
combo box.  do you know how to bring the field back?
TIA,
Donna


> On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> I usually just enter it in the field then close the Font window and it 
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> Later...
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> On Nov 12, 2019, at 08:07, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> list.  Then I hear VO say Confirm, but there doesn't seem to be anything to 
> click on.  I hear the VO thunk when I press Enter, Spacebar, or try and click 
> on the Trackpad.  Nothing seems to make the font selection stick.  Can anyone 
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> TIA,
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Re: How to set Font Size in Text Edit?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I usually just enter it in the field then close the Font window and it applies 
it.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 12, 2019, at 08:07, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,

I've been having trouble changing the font size in Text Edit documents.  I 
select the text, click on the font size, select the size I want from the list.  
Then I hear VO say Confirm, but there doesn't seem to be anything to click on.  
I hear the VO thunk when I press Enter, Spacebar, or try and click on the 
Trackpad.  Nothing seems to make the font selection stick.  Can anyone tell me 
how to do this?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: How to Temporarily Switch Out of Spell Check

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a tesea of a spel chef. 

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Re: How to Temporarily Switch Out of Spell Check

[Dave Carlson]

Jonathan,
When I Cmd+Shift+D to send an email message, it will come up if there is an 
error. I can’t figure out how to go back to the original email message to find 
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Re: How to Temporarily Switch Out of Spell Check

[Jonathan Cohn]

I’m not sure exactly where you are getting into spelling checking, but on MacOS 
I generally can use command-shift-semicolon   to toggle the spelling/grammer 
dialog on and off.
Best Wishes,
Jonathan 

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> 
> i’m sending an email, and the Spelling dialog pops up with a spelling 
> suggestion. Okay, I check the misspelled word with VO+W. In this case it was 
> “eor”. I’m not sure if it was intended to be “for” or “or”. How do I go back 
> to the original text to find that misspelled word in context?
> Every time I try to leave the spell check, I end of sending off the message, 
> with who knows how many other mistakes.
> Any tips?
> 
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How to Temporarily Switch Out of Spell Check

[Dave Carlson]

i’m sending an email, and the Spelling dialog pops up with a spelling 
suggestion. Okay, I check the misspelled word with VO+W. In this case it was 
“eor”. I’m not sure if it was intended to be “for” or “or”. How do I go back to 
the original text to find that misspelled word in context?
Every time I try to leave the spell check, I end of sending off the message, 
with who knows how many other mistakes.
Any tips?

Dave Carlson
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Re: Is there anybody out there?

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   The party is long over, everyone went home to sleep it off.

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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/12/2019 2:02 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
Just thought the list was a bit quieter than usual and I’d make sure we 
were still alive.


So if your not,

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Re: Is there anybody out there?

[Phil Halton]

What’s this, are we reciting Pink Floyd lyrics now? I protest, this is 
off-topic.

Sent from my IPhone


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> Hi simon hope your well! 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Nov 2019, at 9:02 pm, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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How to set Font Size in Text Edit?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I've been having trouble changing the font size in Text Edit documents.  I 
select the text, click on the font size, select the size I want from the list.  
Then I hear VO say Confirm, but there doesn't seem to be anything to click on.  
I hear the VO thunk when I press Enter, Spacebar, or try and click on the 
Trackpad.  Nothing seems to make the font selection stick.  Can anyone tell me 
how to do this?
TIA,
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Re: Airport questions

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Tim. I'll probably change it this weekend, when I have more time to 
mess with it if something goes wrong.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Nov 11, 2019, at 6:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure if it really matters.  It might depend on how modern your ISP 
> router is.  Some claim to be modern state of the art devices, but are no 
> better, or even less modern than the Extreme.  I have my ISP in Bridge mode 
> and my Extreme doing the DHCP & NAT routing.  Mostly because I don't feel 
> like changing my IP structure.  My ISP doesn't seem to have the same DHCP 
> choices as my Extreme and I have some static devices that I don't want to 
> mess with at this time.
> 
> So, overall, it probably doesn't matter which handles the DHCP & NAT, but I 
> suggest that you have only one doing this job.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
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> 
> On Nov 11, 2019, at 07:05, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
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> Hi!
> Are there any recommendations on how to configure the airport extreme?
> Is it better to have the airport in bridge mode and the isp router set to nat 
> or vice versa?
> /A
> 
>> 10 nov. 2019 kl. 21:44 skrev Jonathan Cohn > >:
>> 
>> If the Bridged mode is what I think it is, it is probably because your ISP 
>> is using NAT and then your AIRPORT Extreme is using NAT. In some 
>> circumstances mostly when attempting to use VPN software, this double 
>> NATTING can cause problems. If you switch the AIRPORT to Bridged mode, then 
>> all of your devices will be fully visible to the ISP network unless you 
>> configure some of the firewall options.
>> In terms of the speed you mention, I am not particularly aware of this view. 
>> It might have to do with distances and or protocols of WiFi being used. The 
>> Extreme supports at list (N), (a) and (b) versions of 802.11 and probably 
>> also the 802.11ac standard. Though I would think even the speed of the 
>> HomePod should be sufficient for most Audio needs.   
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:38 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have followed Tim's suggestion and am now running the airport app on my 
>>> phone.  Two Questions:
>>> 
>>> 1. The sonos speakers seem to have a data rate of 866 MBPS which is within 
>>> the rate that Tim suggested. But, my Hompod seems to have a rate of 48 
>>> MBPS, which seems awfully low.  Why would one be fine, and the other not?  
>>> And is the answer to fixing that a faster router?
>>> 
>>> 2. I'm being prompted to change the setting on my Airport Extreme from 
>>> TCPIP to Bridge? Why would I be getting this prompt, and what would be the 
>>> consequences of changing that setting?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Is there anybody out there?

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Hi simon hope your well! 


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Is there anybody out there?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Just thought the list was a bit quieter than usual and I'd make sure we were 
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So if your not,
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