RE: Is there a way to disable Voiceover announcement of braille pattern dots for braille Unicode?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah interesting,

I’ve just had a look on my jaws / windows machine and yeah they all showor 
appear to jaws as links.

And yeah under vo on my iPad its
Unpronounceable  then the dots,
Eg  braille dots 2 3 4.

Hmmm,

Can’t think that one.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 3:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a way to disable Voiceover announcement of braille 
pattern dots for braille Unicode?

He is using the UNICODE Braille characters. 
⠎⠊⠍⠕⠝

Above I should have spelled simon in Unicode Braille. If you read by character, 
VOiceOver will read all the dots in each cell. Forgive me for forgetting the 
initial dot-6. In NVDA and JAWS, these characters are currently ignored by 
speech, but are displayed on a Braille display. VoiceOver should also be 
showing the cells. This is quite useful on webpages, where you don't want 
Braille to be be modified by the Screen Reader based on translations.

The Wikipedia article for this is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_Patterns
…
Braille was added to the Unicode 
Standard in September, 1999 with the release of version 3.0.
When using punching, the filled (black) dots are to be punched.
The Unicode block for braille is U+2800 ... U+28FF:
…


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Jan 8, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Jonathan,

I think he said it was braille text / dots within a web page but wished to be 
able to mute vo and I would assume other screen reading products that were 
being used if not vo on a Mac / apple device.

I wondered if there was a way to instruct the screen reader to mute from within 
the page?or hide the braille text on the page from screen readers but not from 
a braille device.
Question:
How would a braille device get on with  the Unicode braille text being shown on 
the page in an embedded gif / image
Which from last time I tried something like this at least jaws couldn’t see the 
contents
I’m assuming here a braille device will be somewhat in the same boat.

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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 12:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a way to disable Voiceover announcement of braille 
pattern dots for braille Unicode?

I have never seen a way to do this. Though I have not tried changing verbosity, 
as I find this useful to know I should go to my BRL display. Also, if you 
navigate by character, you can read the individual cells stating exactly which 
dots are raised. What is your application?
Thanks!
Jonathan Cohn





On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, mohammad suliman 
mailto:mohmad@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello all,
Hope all are doing well!

I have a question: on the mac and iOS also, is there a way to disable voiceover 
announcing braille pattern dots for each braille Unicode character?
I'll give some context: we are developing some website in which we are showing 
some data as braille Unicode characters, we want the user to be able to read 
this data on the braille display, but we want voiceover speech to stay silent 
when going over this data.
Hope my question is clear!

Thanks in advance!
Mohammad

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Re: Is there a way to disable Voiceover announcement of braille pattern dots for braille Unicode?

[Jonathan Cohn]

He is using the UNICODE Braille characters. ⠎ 
⠊ 
⠍ 
⠕ 
⠝ 


Above I should have spelled simon in Unicode Braille. If you read by character, 
VOiceOver will read all the dots in each cell. Forgive me for forgetting the 
initial dot-6. In NVDA and JAWS, these characters are currently ignored by 
speech, but are displayed on a Braille display. VoiceOver should also be 
showing the cells. This is quite useful on webpages, where you don't want 
Braille to be be modified by the Screen Reader based on translations.

The Wikipedia article for this is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_Patterns
…
Braille was added to the Unicode  
Standard in September, 1999 with the release of version 3.0.
When using punching, the filled (black) dots are to be punched.
The Unicode block for braille is U+2800 ... U+28FF:
…


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 8, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
>  
> I think he said it was braille text / dots within a web page but wished to be 
> able to mute vo and I would assume other screen reading products that were 
> being used if not vo on a Mac / apple device.
>  
> I wondered if there was a way to instruct the screen reader to mute from 
> within the page?or hide the braille text on the page from screen readers but 
> not from a braille device.
> Question:
> How would a braille device get on with  the Unicode braille text being shown 
> on the page in an embedded gif / image 
> Which from last time I tried something like this at least jaws couldn’t see 
> the contents
> I’m assuming here a braille device will be somewhat in the same boat.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 12:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is there a way to disable Voiceover announcement of braille 
> pattern dots for braille Unicode?
>  
> I have never seen a way to do this. Though I have not tried changing 
> verbosity, as I find this useful to know I should go to my BRL display. Also, 
> if you navigate by character, you can read the individual cells stating 
> exactly which dots are raised. What is your application?
> Thanks!
> Jonathan Cohn
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, mohammad suliman  > wrote:
>  
> Hello all,
> Hope all are doing well!
>  
> I have a question: on the mac and iOS also, is there a way to disable 
> voiceover announcing braille pattern dots for each braille Unicode character? 
> I'll give some context: we are developing some website in which we are 
> showing some data as braille Unicode characters, we want the user to be able 
> to read this data on the braille display, but we want voiceover speech to 
> stay silent when going over this data.
> Hope my question is clear!
>  
> Thanks in advance!
> Mohammad
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Re: Some strange issues after clean install

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Greg,
   Did you use the Migration Assistant?

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On 1/8/2020 6:19 PM, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
I am seeing apps I did have installed before the I erased the drive and did the 
clean install. Just to see what would happen, I went to the open with menu on a 
file and opened it with an app that is not on my computer. Even though the app 
is not listed in my applications it opened up. The app is called code runner. I 
am also seeing bear in the menu and I don't have it installed either. This is 
strange.

Greg Wocher


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Greg,
   Is column view your usual preference? The command down does work in list 
view.

   What apps are you seeing?

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On 1/8/2020 2:20 PM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello all,
I did a clean install of macOS Catalina 10.15.3 on my macbook air and I am 
running into some strange problems. First when I look at the open with menu 
after doing a VO shift M on a file, there are programs in there I do not have 
installed. They were installed before but not now. I actually tried one and it 
opened as if it was installed. However I cannot find the app in question in my 
applications folder. How do I fix this? Finder is also behaving oddly. When I 
open up my home folder with command plus shift plus H it says column view 
browser. When I do command plus down arrow to move into a folder it just says 
open selection but does not actually move into the folder. Always before when I 
hit command plus down arrow it took me into the folder. Is there a setting I 
need to change to get this behavior back?
Thanks,
Greg Wocher
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RE: Some strange issues after clean install

[Simon A Fogarty]

By any chance did you install from a time machine backup or similar?

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Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 3:19 PM
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Hello,
I am seeing apps I did have installed before the I erased the drive and did the 
clean install. Just to see what would happen, I went to the open with menu on a 
file and opened it with an app that is not on my computer. Even though the app 
is not listed in my applications it opened up. The app is called code runner. I 
am also seeing bear in the menu and I don't have it installed either. This is 
strange. 

Greg Wocher 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Greg,
>   Is column view your usual preference? The command down does work in list 
> view.
> 
>   What apps are you seeing?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
>> On 1/8/2020 2:20 PM, Greg Wocher wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I did a clean install of macOS Catalina 10.15.3 on my macbook air and I am 
>> running into some strange problems. First when I look at the open with menu 
>> after doing a VO shift M on a file, there are programs in there I do not 
>> have installed. They were installed before but not now. I actually tried one 
>> and it opened as if it was installed. However I cannot find the app in 
>> question in my applications folder. How do I fix this? Finder is also 
>> behaving oddly. When I open up my home folder with command plus shift plus H 
>> it says column view browser. When I do command plus down arrow to move into 
>> a folder it just says open selection but does not actually move into the 
>> folder. Always before when I hit command plus down arrow it took me into the 
>> folder. Is there a setting I need to change to get this behavior back?
>> Thanks,
>> Greg Wocher
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Re: Some strange issues after clean install

[Greg Wocher]

Hello, 
I am seeing apps I did have installed before the I erased the drive and did the 
clean install. Just to see what would happen, I went to the open with menu on a 
file and opened it with an app that is not on my computer. Even though the app 
is not listed in my applications it opened up. The app is called code runner. I 
am also seeing bear in the menu and I don't have it installed either. This is 
strange. 

Greg Wocher 


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> On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:45 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Greg,
>   Is column view your usual preference? The command down does work in list 
> view.
> 
>   What apps are you seeing?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> On 1/8/2020 2:20 PM, Greg Wocher wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I did a clean install of macOS Catalina 10.15.3 on my macbook air and I am 
>> running into some strange problems. First when I look at the open with menu 
>> after doing a VO shift M on a file, there are programs in there I do not 
>> have installed. They were installed before but not now. I actually tried one 
>> and it opened as if it was installed. However I cannot find the app in 
>> question in my applications folder. How do I fix this? Finder is also 
>> behaving oddly. When I open up my home folder with command plus shift plus H 
>> it says column view browser. When I do command plus down arrow to move into 
>> a folder it just says open selection but does not actually move into the 
>> folder. Always before when I hit command plus down arrow it took me into the 
>> folder. Is there a setting I need to change to get this behavior back?
>> Thanks,
>> Greg Wocher
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RE: Is there a way to disable Voiceover announcement of braille pattern dots for braille Unicode?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Jonathan,

I think he said it was braille text / dots within a web page but wished to be 
able to mute vo and I would assume other screen reading products that were 
being used if not vo on a Mac / apple device.

I wondered if there was a way to instruct the screen reader to mute from within 
the page?or hide the braille text on the page from screen readers but not from 
a braille device.
Question:
How would a braille device get on with  the Unicode braille text being shown on 
the page in an embedded gif / image
Which from last time I tried something like this at least jaws couldn’t see the 
contents
I’m assuming here a braille device will be somewhat in the same boat.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 12:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a way to disable Voiceover announcement of braille 
pattern dots for braille Unicode?

I have never seen a way to do this. Though I have not tried changing verbosity, 
as I find this useful to know I should go to my BRL display. Also, if you 
navigate by character, you can read the individual cells stating exactly which 
dots are raised. What is your application?
Thanks!
Jonathan Cohn




On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, mohammad suliman 
mailto:mohmad@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello all,
Hope all are doing well!

I have a question: on the mac and iOS also, is there a way to disable voiceover 
announcing braille pattern dots for each braille Unicode character?
I'll give some context: we are developing some website in which we are showing 
some data as braille Unicode characters, we want the user to be able to read 
this data on the braille display, but we want voiceover speech to stay silent 
when going over this data.
Hope my question is clear!

Thanks in advance!
Mohammad

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RE: Can't Access My Network Drive From Windows On VMWare Fusion

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Pete,

I only have 2 accounts on my computers, 
One the local admin I set up at the start and a local user which is what I use 
all the time,

So yes the local user of the machine is the one you require
 But great work figuring it out.

Cheers,

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 12:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Access My Network Drive From Windows On VMWare Fusion

Hi Simon,

What you suggested was actually exactly what I was doing, but Windows still 
could not see the drive. However, I did discover what was going on, but I have 
no idea why: I had logged on to Windows using my Microsoft account, rather than 
a local account. As soon as I switched to my local account, I was able to get 
to the drive via IP address, and have mapped the folders I needed.

Pete

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi pete,
> 
> Yeah normally easy,
> 
> Do you have the device name on your network?
> Or the ip address it's using in the case of the my cloud device?
> 
> If you have sharing set on the drive then try opening the run dialogue box 
> and type in the name of the device or ip and then hit enter.
> 
> You can also do this through explorer (Windows explorer using the address bar,
> 
> Then once you have the drive show, right click and go to the mapp drive 
> 
> Hope that makes sense.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
> Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 8:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can't Access My Network Drive From Windows On VMWare Fusion
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a 2TB WDMyCloud drive connected to my Mac over a network, and it shows 
> up just fine via Finder both on my Mac and my wife's. However, when I start 
> my Windows virtual machine, the drive cannot be found, so I can’t map it. I 
> currently have my VM network settings configured to share with my Mac, and I 
> know there are a number of other options. Is anyone out there able to connect 
> to a network drive from a Windows virtual machine? If so, what settings are 
> you using?
> 
> Thanks so much,
> Pete De Vasto
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RE: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kawal,

Could it be used to squash a boris?

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 11:44 AM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now 
Recommending

Hi  Mark.

The printer sounds great. But my printer  is not broken. I could get rid of it 
but don’t have any packaging to sell it so will have to continue with the one I 
got. I wish it was broken then I could buy the one that you have now!

Kawal.

> On 8 Jan 2020, at 20:37, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello E.T.,
> 
> Yes, $108.00 includes a toner cartridge.  The cartridge is stored inside the 
> printer, when shipped.  It is not installed, but merely stored.  
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 11:49 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now 
> Recommending
> 
>Never used a laser before so Tim clued me n on that.
> 
>On Amazon there are two options. One is the printer, the other includes a 
> cartridge, that then is about $160. Did you get a cartridge for $108?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 1/8/2020 11:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello E.T.,
>> 
>> Remember that, unlike ink cartridges, toner is powder not liquid, so you 
>> don't have to worry about lack of use between printing sessions.
>> 
>> As for capacity, the nice thing about this printer is that the HP Smart app 
>> will always tell you how much toner you have left in terms of percentage.
>> 
>> I think the toner cartridge that ships with the unit is good for about 700 
>> pages.  That's a guess as I don't remember.  However, you can buy higher 
>> capacity toner cartridges that can last up to 2 thousand pages, on certain 
>> models.  It just depends on how much you wish to spend on a cartridge.
>> 
>> As for envelopes, you only need to slide the sheet feeder towards the center 
>> until it stops.  That's it.  Now, you can simply insert envelopes, 
>> lengthwise, into the sheet feeder. It couldn't be any easier.
>> 
>> Just be certain to buy the unit from Amazon so that if you do not like it, 
>> for any reason, you may return it, hassle-free.
>> 
>> One more thing, when you begin setting up the printer via the ap, HP will 
>> try to sell you a bunch of stuff that you don't need.  They will also offer 
>> to setup an HP account for you.  Just be certain to select the skip button 
>> on all of those options as they are totally unnecessary.  Near the end of 
>> the setup process, HP will tell you that it needs to send you a link to your 
>> email address in order for you to configure the printer on any other device. 
>>  This is not true for Apple devices.  So, be certain to say no / skip.
>> 
>> When setting up the printer, via the app, it will ask to access your phone's 
>> location.  You must say yes to this in order for the app to be able to see 
>> your network.  You can revoke this access once the unit is configured.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:54 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now 
>> Recommending
>> 
>> Nice. This just might be what I want. Couple things I am curious about 
>> is, will the toner remain viable with low usage? And hwo many pages can it 
>> print before the toner needs replacing? Was setting up for envelops easy?
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing this.
>> 
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> 
>> On 1/8/2020 10:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) 
>>> from Amazon and I absolutely love it.
>>> 
>>> It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert 
>>> standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.
>>> 
>>> In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must 
>>> download the free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure 
>>> the printer for use on your network.  This is to say, the app 
>>> facilitates the ability to enter your network password, etc.  As I 
>>> said, you only need to do this once as, once done, all Apple devices 
>>> can see the printer on the network and you may print to your heart's 
>>> content.  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.
>>> 
>>> The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a 
>>> mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.
>>> 
>>> Oh, this is not a color laser.
>>> 
>>> Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds f

Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I have similar settings here, and the braille display works well with 
VoiceOver, including Grade II text entry. However, I almost always use the 
qwerty keyboard.

On 1/7/20, 10:51, "Pete De Vasto"  wrote:

Hi all,

I am replying to this e-mail using an original Focus 40 Blue display. As 
you can see, I am typing just fine. I can press Chord D and that deletes the 
last character I typed. I’ve not tried other Chord commands as yet because I am 
more used to a regular keyboard, but if one works I’d be others would as well. 
For what it might be worth, my VO Braille settings are set to English US 
output, allow contracted Braille is unchecked, use 8-dot Braille is checked, 
and use automatic Braille translation is unchecked. I’m discovering that if you 
alter even one of the above settings, that can make a difference for what works 
and does not. Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Pete De Vasto

> On Jan 6, 2020, at 8:45 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jonathan and Kawal,
> 
> Okay, I just connected my Freedom Scientific Focus 40 Blue, the original 
model, to my Mac via USB and could type a new email, just fine.
> 
> The problem I have is that I cannot use any cord combinations and I 
cannot use the dot 7 or the dot 8 key.  When I attempt any cord combos or press 
either the dot 7 or 8 key, I get a ding.  
> 
> I have rebooted the Mac several times and have attempted every workaround 
I know but nothing helps.  
> 
> Again, I can enter letters and spaces without difficulty but when I 
attempt to use the space bar in combination with any other key, all I get is a 
ding.  
> 
> Very strange.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?
> 
> I can think of two possibilities.
> 1. space with dots 1,8 will lock the command key on a Braille display.
> 2. You have quickNav enabled. I believe chord Q  should turn it off.
> 
> Doing modifier key actions on a Mac is a little different from the PC. 
> 1. You can't enable multiple modifier keys in one chord. 
> 2. You use dot 7 with  space and one of the dots 1-6 to toggle a modifier 
for the next character pressed.
> 
> Hope this solves your issue,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:04 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
> 
> Hi There.
> 
> I am just trying to write with my focus but when I press the letters on 
my braille display it goes out of the mail program.  So what am I doing wrong 
as I wanted to write with contracted braille using the braille display.
> 
> Also are there any podcasts on how to use the focus with the Mac OS?  I 
can use the braille display with windows by controling the machine even though 
it’s a virtual machine with my Focus but can’t do the same with the Mac.  I 
wish I could.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> 
> On 5 Jan 2020, at 20:55, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> well, hims is selling their displays for now, and hims customer service 
hasn’t been great historically, but when I asked a question last week I got a 
reply in two days, and that was right on new year’s eve when I asked, so I was 
impressed. I worry about any company for the blind or visually impaired if I’m 
honest. so many are moving to phones using speech and abandoning specialized 
equipment. I would be concerned yes, but the display is outstanding, imo the 
hardware is better than vario. I had to send my VU in twice for issues, but not 
the actilino. the actilino also uses an off the shelf battery, so if like my vu 
did the battery goes you can just buy a 7 dollar battery from amazon and 
replace it yourself. I also had to write handitech, or helptech or whatever 
they are now directly once, requesting better software, just ideas for 
improvements, and had someone reply to me twice within an hour. I am not going 
to tell you not to worry at all that they’ll be around, but if it was me I 
would still buy one. as I said the software is awful, but the hardware is 
incredible. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
> 
> I'd at least like to have the option of using it to control my computer. 
Just out of curiosity, because I know you went through the Baum debacle too, do 
you ever worry about HandyTech going under?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Is there a way to disable Voiceover announcement of braille pattern dots for braille Unicode?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I have never seen a way to do this. Though I have not tried changing verbosity, 
as I find this useful to know I should go to my BRL display. Also, if you 
navigate by character, you can read the individual cells stating exactly which 
dots are raised. What is your application?
Thanks!
Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, mohammad suliman  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> Hope all are doing well!
> 
> I have a question: on the mac and iOS also, is there a way to disable 
> voiceover announcing braille pattern dots for each braille Unicode character? 
> I'll give some context: we are developing some website in which we are 
> showing some data as braille Unicode characters, we want the user to be able 
> to read this data on the braille display, but we want voiceover speech to 
> stay silent when going over this data.
> Hope my question is clear!
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> Mohammad
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Re: Some strange issues after clean install

[Jonathan Cohn]

There is a cache that can be reset to resolve issues with Open With dialogs. I 
have seen a terminal command line to reset this cache. I believe the query it 
was directly related to was duplicate apps in the open with dialog.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I did a clean install of macOS Catalina 10.15.3 on my macbook air and I am 
> running into some strange problems. First when I look at the open with menu 
> after doing a VO shift M on a file, there are programs in there I do not have 
> installed. They were installed before but not now. I actually tried one and 
> it opened as if it was installed. However I cannot find the app in question 
> in my applications folder. How do I fix this? Finder is also behaving oddly. 
> When I open up my home folder with command plus shift plus H it says column 
> view browser. When I do command plus down arrow to move into a folder it just 
> says open selection but does not actually move into the folder. Always before 
> when I hit command plus down arrow it took me into the folder. Is there a 
> setting I need to change to get this behavior back?
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
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Re: Can't Access My Network Drive From Windows On VMWare Fusion

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi Simon,

What you suggested was actually exactly what I was doing, but Windows still 
could not see the drive. However, I did discover what was going on, but I have 
no idea why: I had logged on to Windows using my Microsoft account, rather than 
a local account. As soon as I switched to my local account, I was able to get 
to the drive via IP address, and have mapped the folders I needed.

Pete

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi pete,
> 
> Yeah normally easy,
> 
> Do you have the device name on your network?
> Or the ip address it's using in the case of the my cloud device?
> 
> If you have sharing set on the drive then try opening the run dialogue box 
> and type in the name of the device or ip and then hit enter.
> 
> You can also do this through explorer (Windows explorer using the address bar,
> 
> Then once you have the drive show, right click and go to the mapp drive 
> 
> Hope that makes sense.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
> Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 8:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can't Access My Network Drive From Windows On VMWare Fusion
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a 2TB WDMyCloud drive connected to my Mac over a network, and it shows 
> up just fine via Finder both on my Mac and my wife's. However, when I start 
> my Windows virtual machine, the drive cannot be found, so I can’t map it. I 
> currently have my VM network settings configured to share with my Mac, and I 
> know there are a number of other options. Is anyone out there able to connect 
> to a network drive from a Windows virtual machine? If so, what settings are 
> you using?
> 
> Thanks so much,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: A test using my Focus.

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi Kawal,

Message came through just fine both via listening with speech and reading on my 
Braille display. Glad I was able to help you.

Pete

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:23 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone.
> Just to let you know I am using the Focus to write this message after the 
> instructions that Pete gave me on the list.
> Thanks so much for this as it’s working now.
> Kawal.
> 
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Re: Some strange issues after clean install

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Greg,
   Is column view your usual preference? The command down does work in 
list view.


   What apps are you seeing?

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On 1/8/2020 2:20 PM, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello all,
I did a clean install of macOS Catalina 10.15.3 on my macbook air and I 
am running into some strange problems. First when I look at the open 
with menu after doing a VO shift M on a file, there are programs in 
there I do not have installed. They were installed before but not now. I 
actually tried one and it opened as if it was installed. However I 
cannot find the app in question in my applications folder. How do I fix 
this? Finder is also behaving oddly. When I open up my home folder with 
command plus shift plus H it says column view browser. When I do command 
plus down arrow to move into a folder it just says open selection but 
does not actually move into the folder. Always before when I hit command 
plus down arrow it took me into the folder. Is there a setting I need to 
change to get this behavior back?


Thanks,
Greg Wocher


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Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hi  Mark.

The printer sounds great. But my printer  is not broken. I could get rid of it 
but don’t have any packaging to sell it so will have to continue with the one I 
got. I wish it was broken then I could buy the one that you have now!

Kawal.

> On 8 Jan 2020, at 20:37, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello E.T.,
> 
> Yes, $108.00 includes a toner cartridge.  The cartridge is stored inside the 
> printer, when shipped.  It is not installed, but merely stored.  
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 11:49 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now 
> Recommending
> 
>Never used a laser before so Tim clued me n on that.
> 
>On Amazon there are two options. One is the printer, the other includes a 
> cartridge, that then is about $160. Did you get a cartridge for $108?
> 
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> On 1/8/2020 11:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello E.T.,
>> 
>> Remember that, unlike ink cartridges, toner is powder not liquid, so you 
>> don't have to worry about lack of use between printing sessions.
>> 
>> As for capacity, the nice thing about this printer is that the HP Smart app 
>> will always tell you how much toner you have left in terms of percentage.
>> 
>> I think the toner cartridge that ships with the unit is good for about 700 
>> pages.  That's a guess as I don't remember.  However, you can buy higher 
>> capacity toner cartridges that can last up to 2 thousand pages, on certain 
>> models.  It just depends on how much you wish to spend on a cartridge.
>> 
>> As for envelopes, you only need to slide the sheet feeder towards the center 
>> until it stops.  That's it.  Now, you can simply insert envelopes, 
>> lengthwise, into the sheet feeder. It couldn't be any easier.
>> 
>> Just be certain to buy the unit from Amazon so that if you do not like it, 
>> for any reason, you may return it, hassle-free.
>> 
>> One more thing, when you begin setting up the printer via the ap, HP will 
>> try to sell you a bunch of stuff that you don't need.  They will also offer 
>> to setup an HP account for you.  Just be certain to select the skip button 
>> on all of those options as they are totally unnecessary.  Near the end of 
>> the setup process, HP will tell you that it needs to send you a link to your 
>> email address in order for you to configure the printer on any other device. 
>>  This is not true for Apple devices.  So, be certain to say no / skip.
>> 
>> When setting up the printer, via the app, it will ask to access your phone's 
>> location.  You must say yes to this in order for the app to be able to see 
>> your network.  You can revoke this access once the unit is configured.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:54 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now 
>> Recommending
>> 
>> Nice. This just might be what I want. Couple things I am curious about 
>> is, will the toner remain viable with low usage? And hwo many pages can it 
>> print before the toner needs replacing? Was setting up for envelops easy?
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing this.
>> 
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> true?
>> 
>> On 1/8/2020 10:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) 
>>> from Amazon and I absolutely love it.
>>> 
>>> It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert 
>>> standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.
>>> 
>>> In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must 
>>> download the free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure 
>>> the printer for use on your network.  This is to say, the app 
>>> facilitates the ability to enter your network password, etc.  As I 
>>> said, you only need to do this once as, once done, all Apple devices 
>>> can see the printer on the network and you may print to your heart's 
>>> content.  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.
>>> 
>>> The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a 
>>> mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.
>>> 
>>> Oh, this is not a color laser.
>>> 
>>> Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit 
>>> to start printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing 
>>> almost immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.
>>> 
>>>  From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, 
>>> on Amazon, come 

A test using my Focus.

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hello Everyone.
Just to let you know I am using the Focus to write this message after the 
instructions that Pete gave me on the list.
Thanks so much for this as it’s working now.
Kawal.



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Some strange issues after clean install

[Greg Wocher]

Hello all,
I did a clean install of macOS Catalina 10.15.3 on my macbook air and I am 
running into some strange problems. First when I look at the open with menu 
after doing a VO shift M on a file, there are programs in there I do not have 
installed. They were installed before but not now. I actually tried one and it 
opened as if it was installed. However I cannot find the app in question in my 
applications folder. How do I fix this? Finder is also behaving oddly. When I 
open up my home folder with command plus shift plus H it says column view 
browser. When I do command plus down arrow to move into a folder it just says 
open selection but does not actually move into the folder. Always before when I 
hit command plus down arrow it took me into the folder. Is there a setting I 
need to change to get this behavior back?

Thanks,
Greg Wocher


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Re: How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Not necessary to do that.

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On 1/8/2020 1:16 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Look under music app


-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 3:34 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

Hi all,
I downloaded an MP3 file that I want to listen to on my phone. I've stored it 
in my main iCloud directory. But the file isn't showing up in the files app on 
my phone. (It does show up on my Mac, so I know it's there.) Can anyone tell me 
how to play this file on my phone?
TIA,
Donna




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RE: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[matthew dyer]

I am using outlook 365 and have the same problem.  It mkes me have to run my 
filters manualy every time.

Matthew



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 10:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox 
in Mail

Guys,
I almost never post here.  I’ve just noticed that one of the mailing lists to 
which I subscribe is having its posts always sent to the Junk box in Mac aMail. 
 I have no idea why.  I’ve been a member of this list for years and this 
behavior seems to have just started within the last week.  I’ve tried 
correcting it through both the Gmail web interface and Mac Mail without 
success.  No idea what to do.
Sorry if I’m not giving you enough information.

Thanks in advance,
Kevin

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RE: Can't Access My Network Drive From Windows On VMWare Fusion

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi pete,

Yeah normally easy,

Do you have the device name on your network?
Or the ip address it's using in the case of the my cloud device?

 If you have sharing set on the drive then try opening the run dialogue box and 
type in the name of the device or ip and then hit enter.

You can also do this through explorer (Windows explorer using the address bar,

Then once you have the drive show, right click and go to the mapp drive 

Hope that makes sense.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 8:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can't Access My Network Drive From Windows On VMWare Fusion

Hi,

I have a 2TB WDMyCloud drive connected to my Mac over a network, and it shows 
up just fine via Finder both on my Mac and my wife's. However, when I start my 
Windows virtual machine, the drive cannot be found, so I can’t map it. I 
currently have my VM network settings configured to share with my Mac, and I 
know there are a number of other options. Is anyone out there able to connect 
to a network drive from a Windows virtual machine? If so, what settings are you 
using?

Thanks so much,
Pete De Vasto

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RE: How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Look under music app 


-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2020 3:34 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

Hi all,
I downloaded an MP3 file that I want to listen to on my phone. I've stored it 
in my main iCloud directory. But the file isn't showing up in the files app on 
my phone. (It does show up on my Mac, so I know it's there.) Can anyone tell me 
how to play this file on my phone?
TIA,
Donna


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Re: speaking rate for vo on a Mac

[Katie Zodrow]

Cool. I’m glad that helped.
Katie

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:45 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> yeah. thanks. exactly what I was asking for.
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:32 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Lorie. If you want to slow the speech down without going into the 
>> Voiceover Utility, hold down the command and VO keys and press the left or 
>> right arrow until Alex says speaking rate. You can adjust the rate of the 
>> voice by holding down the command and VO keys and hitting down or up arrow 
>> to increase or decrease the speech rate. This is a quick way to adjust the 
>> speech settings for Voiceover like the voice and intonation on the fly.
>> Hope that helps.
>> Thanks.
>> Katie
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I want to slow Alex down so I can play an article for a friend who doesn't 
>>> have a computer. what's the keystroke for that?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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RE: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

[M. Taylor]

Hello E.T.,

Yes, $108.00 includes a toner cartridge.  The cartridge is stored inside the 
printer, when shipped.  It is not installed, but merely stored.  

Mark

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Subject: Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now 
Recommending

Never used a laser before so Tim clued me n on that.

On Amazon there are two options. One is the printer, the other includes a 
cartridge, that then is about $160. Did you get a cartridge for $108?

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On 1/8/2020 11:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello E.T.,
> 
> Remember that, unlike ink cartridges, toner is powder not liquid, so you 
> don't have to worry about lack of use between printing sessions.
> 
> As for capacity, the nice thing about this printer is that the HP Smart app 
> will always tell you how much toner you have left in terms of percentage.
> 
> I think the toner cartridge that ships with the unit is good for about 700 
> pages.  That's a guess as I don't remember.  However, you can buy higher 
> capacity toner cartridges that can last up to 2 thousand pages, on certain 
> models.  It just depends on how much you wish to spend on a cartridge.
> 
> As for envelopes, you only need to slide the sheet feeder towards the center 
> until it stops.  That's it.  Now, you can simply insert envelopes, 
> lengthwise, into the sheet feeder. It couldn't be any easier.
> 
> Just be certain to buy the unit from Amazon so that if you do not like it, 
> for any reason, you may return it, hassle-free.
> 
> One more thing, when you begin setting up the printer via the ap, HP will try 
> to sell you a bunch of stuff that you don't need.  They will also offer to 
> setup an HP account for you.  Just be certain to select the skip button on 
> all of those options as they are totally unnecessary.  Near the end of the 
> setup process, HP will tell you that it needs to send you a link to your 
> email address in order for you to configure the printer on any other device.  
> This is not true for Apple devices.  So, be certain to say no / skip.
> 
> When setting up the printer, via the app, it will ask to access your phone's 
> location.  You must say yes to this in order for the app to be able to see 
> your network.  You can revoke this access once the unit is configured.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:54 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now 
> Recommending
> 
>  Nice. This just might be what I want. Couple things I am curious about 
> is, will the toner remain viable with low usage? And hwo many pages can it 
> print before the toner needs replacing? Was setting up for envelops easy?
> 
>  Thanks for sharing this.
> 
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 1/8/2020 10:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) 
>> from Amazon and I absolutely love it.
>>
>> It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert 
>> standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.
>>
>> In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must 
>> download the free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure 
>> the printer for use on your network.  This is to say, the app 
>> facilitates the ability to enter your network password, etc.  As I 
>> said, you only need to do this once as, once done, all Apple devices 
>> can see the printer on the network and you may print to your heart's 
>> content.  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.
>>
>> The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a 
>> mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.
>>
>> Oh, this is not a color laser.
>>
>> Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit 
>> to start printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing 
>> almost immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.
>>
>>   From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, 
>> on Amazon, come from Windows users.
>>
>> To be clear, you do not need to install any HP software on any of 
>> your Apple devices in order to use the printer, save the HP Smart 
>> app, on one device, to configure the unit.  For you more advanced 
>> users, the printer has its own web server so you can log directly 
>> into the unit via a web browser, should you wish.
>>
>> Although the unit ships with a USB cable, for use with Apple devic

Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Tim thanks. Had no idea. This sounds even better now.

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On 1/8/2020 11:22 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Laser printers tend to last almost forever with low use.  The toner is a 
powder, not a liquid like ink jet printers.  I have a Lexmark CS410 
series laser printer and I'm still on the original toner from about 
three years ago.  I use it on my home network both on my various Macs 
and through AirPrint for iPad and iPhone.  HP are also great printers 
and you would have good luck with it.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 8, 2020, at 11:53, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Nice. This just might be what I want. Couple things I am curious 
about is, will the toner remain viable with low usage? And hwo many 
pages can it print before the toner needs replacing? Was setting up for 
envelops easy?


   Thanks for sharing this.

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ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
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On 1/8/2020 10:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,
I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) from
Amazon and I absolutely love it.
It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert
standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.
In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must 
download the

free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure the printer for use
on your network.  This is to say, the app facilitates the ability to enter
your network password, etc.  As I said, you only need to do this once as,
once done, all Apple devices can see the printer on the network and 
you may

print to your heart's content.  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.
The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a
mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.
Oh, this is not a color laser.
Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit to
start printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing almost
immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.
From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, on
Amazon, come from Windows users.
To be clear, you do not need to install any HP software on any of your 
Apple

devices in order to use the printer, save the HP Smart app, on one device,
to configure the unit.  For you more advanced users, the printer has 
its own

web server so you can log directly into the unit via a web browser, should
you wish.
Although the unit ships with a USB cable, for use with Apple devices, 
it is

not necessary.
Now, in full disclosure, I have not used the printer with a Windows 
device.

From what I can tell, the process of configuring the unit is more
complicated on Windows but I cannot speak to that.
The printer costs approximately $110.00 USD.
As for unpacking the unit, it would probably be best to have a sighted
person handy as un-taping the various parts could be challenging for an
inexperienced user.  The only assembly is to unpack the toner 
cartridge and

preparing it for installation.
There are only 3 hardware buttons on the unit that are flush with the
surface but one can certainly put tape on them to mark their location.
Also, the unit makes a definite sound when plugged into the wall so there
can be no doubt as to when the unit is powered up.
Okay, here is the URL for the printer on Amazon.
HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079QRKWLX/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_i_c_deufEbMKW1STR
Enjoy,
Mark


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Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Never used a laser before so Tim clued me n on that.

   On Amazon there are two options. One is the printer, the other 
includes a cartridge, that then is about $160. Did you get a cartridge 
for $108?


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On 1/8/2020 11:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E.T.,

Remember that, unlike ink cartridges, toner is powder not liquid, so you don't 
have to worry about lack of use between printing sessions.

As for capacity, the nice thing about this printer is that the HP Smart app 
will always tell you how much toner you have left in terms of percentage.

I think the toner cartridge that ships with the unit is good for about 700 
pages.  That's a guess as I don't remember.  However, you can buy higher 
capacity toner cartridges that can last up to 2 thousand pages, on certain 
models.  It just depends on how much you wish to spend on a cartridge.

As for envelopes, you only need to slide the sheet feeder towards the center 
until it stops.  That's it.  Now, you can simply insert envelopes, lengthwise, 
into the sheet feeder. It couldn't be any easier.

Just be certain to buy the unit from Amazon so that if you do not like it, for 
any reason, you may return it, hassle-free.

One more thing, when you begin setting up the printer via the ap, HP will try 
to sell you a bunch of stuff that you don't need.  They will also offer to 
setup an HP account for you.  Just be certain to select the skip button on all 
of those options as they are totally unnecessary.  Near the end of the setup 
process, HP will tell you that it needs to send you a link to your email 
address in order for you to configure the printer on any other device.  This is 
not true for Apple devices.  So, be certain to say no / skip.

When setting up the printer, via the app, it will ask to access your phone's 
location.  You must say yes to this in order for the app to be able to see your 
network.  You can revoke this access once the unit is configured.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now 
Recommending

 Nice. This just might be what I want. Couple things I am curious about is, 
will the toner remain viable with low usage? And hwo many pages can it print 
before the toner needs replacing? Was setting up for envelops easy?

 Thanks for sharing this.

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in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/8/2020 10:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A)
from Amazon and I absolutely love it.

It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert
standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.

In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must
download the free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure
the printer for use on your network.  This is to say, the app
facilitates the ability to enter your network password, etc.  As I
said, you only need to do this once as, once done, all Apple devices
can see the printer on the network and you may print to your heart's content.  
The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.

The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a
mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.

Oh, this is not a color laser.

Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit
to start printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing
almost immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.

  From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, on
Amazon, come from Windows users.

To be clear, you do not need to install any HP software on any of your
Apple devices in order to use the printer, save the HP Smart app, on
one device, to configure the unit.  For you more advanced users, the
printer has its own web server so you can log directly into the unit
via a web browser, should you wish.

Although the unit ships with a USB cable, for use with Apple devices,
it is not necessary.

Now, in full disclosure, I have not used the printer with a Windows device.
  From what I can tell, the process of configuring the unit is more
complicated on Windows but I cannot speak to that.

The printer costs approximately $110.00 USD.

As for unpacking the unit, it would probably be best to have a sighted
person handy as un-taping the various parts could be challenging for
an inexperienced user.  The only assembly is to unpack the toner
cartridge and preparing it for installation.

There are only 3 hardware buttons on the unit that are flush with the
surface but one can certainly put tape on them to mark their

Can't Access My Network Drive From Windows On VMWare Fusion

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi,

I have a 2TB WDMyCloud drive connected to my Mac over a network, and it shows 
up just fine via Finder both on my Mac and my wife's. However, when I start my 
Windows virtual machine, the drive cannot be found, so I can’t map it. I 
currently have my VM network settings configured to share with my Mac, and I 
know there are a number of other options. Is anyone out there able to connect 
to a network drive from a Windows virtual machine? If so, what settings are you 
using?

Thanks so much,
Pete De Vasto

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RE: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

[M. Taylor]

Hello E.T.,

Remember that, unlike ink cartridges, toner is powder not liquid, so you don't 
have to worry about lack of use between printing sessions.

As for capacity, the nice thing about this printer is that the HP Smart app 
will always tell you how much toner you have left in terms of percentage.

I think the toner cartridge that ships with the unit is good for about 700 
pages.  That's a guess as I don't remember.  However, you can buy higher 
capacity toner cartridges that can last up to 2 thousand pages, on certain 
models.  It just depends on how much you wish to spend on a cartridge.

As for envelopes, you only need to slide the sheet feeder towards the center 
until it stops.  That's it.  Now, you can simply insert envelopes, lengthwise, 
into the sheet feeder. It couldn't be any easier.

Just be certain to buy the unit from Amazon so that if you do not like it, for 
any reason, you may return it, hassle-free.

One more thing, when you begin setting up the printer via the ap, HP will try 
to sell you a bunch of stuff that you don't need.  They will also offer to 
setup an HP account for you.  Just be certain to select the skip button on all 
of those options as they are totally unnecessary.  Near the end of the setup 
process, HP will tell you that it needs to send you a link to your email 
address in order for you to configure the printer on any other device.  This is 
not true for Apple devices.  So, be certain to say no / skip.

When setting up the printer, via the app, it will ask to access your phone's 
location.  You must say yes to this in order for the app to be able to see your 
network.  You can revoke this access once the unit is configured.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now 
Recommending

Nice. This just might be what I want. Couple things I am curious about is, 
will the toner remain viable with low usage? And hwo many pages can it print 
before the toner needs replacing? Was setting up for envelops easy?

Thanks for sharing this.

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ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/8/2020 10:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) 
> from Amazon and I absolutely love it.
> 
> It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert 
> standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.
> 
> In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must 
> download the free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure 
> the printer for use on your network.  This is to say, the app 
> facilitates the ability to enter your network password, etc.  As I 
> said, you only need to do this once as, once done, all Apple devices 
> can see the printer on the network and you may print to your heart's content. 
>  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.
> 
> The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a 
> mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.
> 
> Oh, this is not a color laser.
> 
> Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit 
> to start printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing 
> almost immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.
> 
>  From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, on 
> Amazon, come from Windows users.
> 
> To be clear, you do not need to install any HP software on any of your 
> Apple devices in order to use the printer, save the HP Smart app, on 
> one device, to configure the unit.  For you more advanced users, the 
> printer has its own web server so you can log directly into the unit 
> via a web browser, should you wish.
> 
> Although the unit ships with a USB cable, for use with Apple devices, 
> it is not necessary.
> 
> Now, in full disclosure, I have not used the printer with a Windows device.
>  From what I can tell, the process of configuring the unit is more 
> complicated on Windows but I cannot speak to that.
> 
> The printer costs approximately $110.00 USD.
> 
> As for unpacking the unit, it would probably be best to have a sighted 
> person handy as un-taping the various parts could be challenging for 
> an inexperienced user.  The only assembly is to unpack the toner 
> cartridge and preparing it for installation.
> 
> There are only 3 hardware buttons on the unit that are flush with the 
> surface but one can certainly put tape on them to mark their location.
> Also, the unit makes a definite sound when plugged into the wall so 
> there can be no doubt as to when the unit is powered up.
> 
> Okay, here is the URL for the printer on Amazon.
> 
> HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) 
> https:

Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Laser printers tend to last almost forever with low use.  The toner is a 
powder, not a liquid like ink jet printers.  I have a Lexmark CS410 series 
laser printer and I'm still on the original toner from about three years ago.  
I use it on my home network both on my various Macs and through AirPrint for 
iPad and iPhone.  HP are also great printers and you would have good luck with 
it.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 8, 2020, at 11:53, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Nice. This just might be what I want. Couple things I am curious about is, 
will the toner remain viable with low usage? And hwo many pages can it print 
before the toner needs replacing? Was setting up for envelops easy?

  Thanks for sharing this.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/8/2020 10:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello All,
> I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) from
> Amazon and I absolutely love it.
> It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert
> standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.
> In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must download the
> free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure the printer for use
> on your network.  This is to say, the app facilitates the ability to enter
> your network password, etc.  As I said, you only need to do this once as,
> once done, all Apple devices can see the printer on the network and you may
> print to your heart's content.  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.
> The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a
> mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.
> Oh, this is not a color laser.
> Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit to
> start printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing almost
> immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.
> From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, on
> Amazon, come from Windows users.
> To be clear, you do not need to install any HP software on any of your Apple
> devices in order to use the printer, save the HP Smart app, on one device,
> to configure the unit.  For you more advanced users, the printer has its own
> web server so you can log directly into the unit via a web browser, should
> you wish.
> Although the unit ships with a USB cable, for use with Apple devices, it is
> not necessary.
> Now, in full disclosure, I have not used the printer with a Windows device.
> From what I can tell, the process of configuring the unit is more
> complicated on Windows but I cannot speak to that.
> The printer costs approximately $110.00 USD.
> As for unpacking the unit, it would probably be best to have a sighted
> person handy as un-taping the various parts could be challenging for an
> inexperienced user.  The only assembly is to unpack the toner cartridge and
> preparing it for installation.
> There are only 3 hardware buttons on the unit that are flush with the
> surface but one can certainly put tape on them to mark their location.
> Also, the unit makes a definite sound when plugged into the wall so there
> can be no doubt as to when the unit is powered up.
> Okay, here is the URL for the printer on Amazon.
> HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A)
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079QRKWLX/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_i_c_deufEbMKW1STR
> Enjoy,
> Mark

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Re: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Nice. This just might be what I want. Couple things I am curious 
about is, will the toner remain viable with low usage? And hwo many 
pages can it print before the toner needs replacing? Was setting up for 
envelops easy?


   Thanks for sharing this.

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On 1/8/2020 10:29 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) from
Amazon and I absolutely love it.

It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert
standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.

In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must download the
free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure the printer for use
on your network.  This is to say, the app facilitates the ability to enter
your network password, etc.  As I said, you only need to do this once as,
once done, all Apple devices can see the printer on the network and you may
print to your heart's content.  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.

The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a
mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.

Oh, this is not a color laser.

Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit to
start printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing almost
immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.

 From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, on
Amazon, come from Windows users.

To be clear, you do not need to install any HP software on any of your Apple
devices in order to use the printer, save the HP Smart app, on one device,
to configure the unit.  For you more advanced users, the printer has its own
web server so you can log directly into the unit via a web browser, should
you wish.

Although the unit ships with a USB cable, for use with Apple devices, it is
not necessary.

Now, in full disclosure, I have not used the printer with a Windows device.
 From what I can tell, the process of configuring the unit is more
complicated on Windows but I cannot speak to that.

The printer costs approximately $110.00 USD.

As for unpacking the unit, it would probably be best to have a sighted
person handy as un-taping the various parts could be challenging for an
inexperienced user.  The only assembly is to unpack the toner cartridge and
preparing it for installation.

There are only 3 hardware buttons on the unit that are flush with the
surface but one can certainly put tape on them to mark their location.
Also, the unit makes a definite sound when plugged into the wall so there
can be no doubt as to when the unit is powered up.

Okay, here is the URL for the printer on Amazon.

HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079QRKWLX/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_i_c_deufEbMKW1STR

Enjoy,

Mark



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Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) from
Amazon and I absolutely love it.

It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert
standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.

In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must download the
free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure the printer for use
on your network.  This is to say, the app facilitates the ability to enter
your network password, etc.  As I said, you only need to do this once as,
once done, all Apple devices can see the printer on the network and you may
print to your heart's content.  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.  

The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a
mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.  

Oh, this is not a color laser.

Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit to
start printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing almost
immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.

>From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, on
Amazon, come from Windows users.

To be clear, you do not need to install any HP software on any of your Apple
devices in order to use the printer, save the HP Smart app, on one device,
to configure the unit.  For you more advanced users, the printer has its own
web server so you can log directly into the unit via a web browser, should
you wish.

Although the unit ships with a USB cable, for use with Apple devices, it is
not necessary.

Now, in full disclosure, I have not used the printer with a Windows device.
>From what I can tell, the process of configuring the unit is more
complicated on Windows but I cannot speak to that.

The printer costs approximately $110.00 USD.

As for unpacking the unit, it would probably be best to have a sighted
person handy as un-taping the various parts could be challenging for an
inexperienced user.  The only assembly is to unpack the toner cartridge and
preparing it for installation.

There are only 3 hardware buttons on the unit that are flush with the
surface but one can certainly put tape on them to mark their location.
Also, the unit makes a definite sound when plugged into the wall so there
can be no doubt as to when the unit is powered up.

Okay, here is the URL for the printer on Amazon.

HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A)   
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079QRKWLX/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_i_c_deufEbMKW1STR

Enjoy,

Mark

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Re: How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

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   Gremlins in Apples. (grins)

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On 1/8/2020 9:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Yep, I think you're right. It was weird, though. I'd moved the file from my 
downloads folder to iCloud about three hours before, so I would have thought 
that the phone would have seen it.
Cheers,
Donna


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   I waited a bit before I tried it, it seems that it takes time for iCloud ti 
do its thing.

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On 1/8/2020 8:58 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Weird. It finally showed up in iCloud about 20 minutes later.
Cheers,
Donna

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   I tried this for fun and had no trouble locating and playing the file.

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Hi all,
I downloaded an MP3 file that I want to listen to on my phone. I've stored it 
in my main iCloud directory. But the file isn't showing up in the files app on 
my phone. (It does show up on my Mac, so I know it's there.) Can anyone tell me 
how to play this file on my phone?
TIA,
Donna


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Re: How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

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Yep, I think you're right. It was weird, though. I'd moved the file from my 
downloads folder to iCloud about three hours before, so I would have thought 
that the phone would have seen it.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 11:27 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
>   I waited a bit before I tried it, it seems that it takes time for iCloud ti 
> do its thing.
> 
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> On 1/8/2020 8:58 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Weird. It finally showed up in iCloud about 20 minutes later.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 10:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I tried this for fun and had no trouble locating and playing the file.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 1/8/2020 6:33 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi all,
 I downloaded an MP3 file that I want to listen to on my phone. I've stored 
 it in my main iCloud directory. But the file isn't showing up in the files 
 app on my phone. (It does show up on my Mac, so I know it's there.) Can 
 anyone tell me how to play this file on my phone?
 TIA,
 Donna
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Re: How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I waited a bit before I tried it, it seems that it takes time for 
iCloud ti do its thing.


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On 1/8/2020 8:58 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Weird. It finally showed up in iCloud about 20 minutes later.
Cheers,
Donna



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   I tried this for fun and had no trouble locating and playing the file.

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On 1/8/2020 6:33 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,
I downloaded an MP3 file that I want to listen to on my phone. I've stored it 
in my main iCloud directory. But the file isn't showing up in the files app on 
my phone. (It does show up on my Mac, so I know it's there.) Can anyone tell me 
how to play this file on my phone?
TIA,
Donna


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Re: How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Weird. It finally showed up in iCloud about 20 minutes later.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 8, 2020, at 10:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> On 1/8/2020 6:33 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I downloaded an MP3 file that I want to listen to on my phone. I've stored 
>> it in my main iCloud directory. But the file isn't showing up in the files 
>> app on my phone. (It does show up on my Mac, so I know it's there.) Can 
>> anyone tell me how to play this file on my phone?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

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   I tried this for fun and had no trouble locating and playing the file.

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Hi all,
I downloaded an MP3 file that I want to listen to on my phone. I've stored it 
in my main iCloud directory. But the file isn't showing up in the files app on 
my phone. (It does show up on my Mac, so I know it's there.) Can anyone tell me 
how to play this file on my phone?
TIA,
Donna




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Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

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   Maybe this will help.



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On 1/8/2020 12:30 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

This is an odd one,

So I’d first have said from your providers mail system mark your good 
emails in the junk folder as safe sender


However

I’ve had a number of emails from dave through the mac visionaries list 
today and all showed up in my in box


Except this one which went in to the junk folder!?

So remember that some systems even though your mail address is fine,

Could still get junked,

I know with some it could be language used, but in daves email below,

Got me stumped.

And it’s only one of a few from him but lots from the list.

I’m using outlook for email.

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
*On Behalf Of *Dave Carlson

*Sent:* Wednesday, 8 January 2020 5:14 PM
*To:* 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
*Subject:* Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to 
going to Inbox in Mail


K, same here. Many of my MacVisionaries messages go to my bulk mail 
folder. Nothing I do seems to train my mail server to stop filtering them.



Dave Carlson

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Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
Probably the word “Engineer” puts fright into any sensible computer application.


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How do I play an MP# from iCloud on my iPhone?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,
I downloaded an MP3 file that I want to listen to on my phone. I've stored it 
in my main iCloud directory. But the file isn't showing up in the files app on 
my phone. (It does show up on my Mac, so I know it's there.) Can anyone tell me 
how to play this file on my phone?
TIA,
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Re: speaking rate for vo on a Mac

[gerrycook]

Hi i believe you have to add the shift key to the VO and command keys to make 
it work properly,  it threw,  me at first.  

> On 8 Jan 2020, at 6:32 pm, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
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> Hi, Lorie. If you want to slow the speech down without going into the 
> Voiceover Utility, hold down the command and VO keys and press the left or 
> right arrow until Alex says speaking rate. You can adjust the rate of the 
> voice by holding down the command and VO keys and hitting down or up arrow to 
> increase or decrease the speech rate. This is a quick way to adjust the 
> speech settings for Voiceover like the voice and intonation on the fly.
> Hope that helps.
> Thanks.
> Katie
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>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> I want to slow Alex down so I can play an article for a friend who doesn't 
>> have a computer. what's the keystroke for that?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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RE: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[Simon A Fogarty]

This is an odd one,

So I’d first have said from your providers mail system mark your good emails in 
the junk folder as safe sender

However
I’ve had a number of emails from dave through the mac visionaries list today 
and all showed up in my in box
Except this one which went in to the junk folder!?

So remember that some systems even though your mail address is fine,
Could still get junked,

I know with some it could be language used, but in daves email below,
Got me stumped.

And it’s only one of a few from him but lots from the list.

I’m using outlook for email.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2020 5:14 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to 
Inbox in Mail

K, same here. Many of my MacVisionaries messages go to my bulk mail folder. 
Nothing I do seems to train my mail server to stop filtering them.


Dave Carlson
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RE: iClever bluetooth keyboard

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Andrew,

I could well be wrong here but I don't think so.

 So I've just unpaired my bk03 keyboard like yours from both my iphone 11 pro 
max and my ipad mini 5,

 So it was paired to both.

 I then switched off bt on my iPhone and pair the keyboard to my ipad,

 Worked great once connected no issues at all.

 Then I switched Bluetooth on my iPad off and on again on my iPhone,
 And then paired the board with the phone and it works great,

 Then turning bt on the ipad back on it says the keyboard is not able to be 
connected again and I'd have to forget it and repair the two devices.

 Anyway  further investigation from the URL page here
https://www.iclever.com/products/BK03-Bluetooth-Portable-Keyboard


seems to me to show that the keyboard can pair to 3 different devices so long 
as they are 
an IOS related device as we've tried,
then use fn plus e key to get Ios devices,

Fn plus w gets the windows device,

And Fn plus q gets the android device 
Paired to the keyboard.

I'm starting to think here that the board is smart enough to know that there is 
more than one Ios device connected but isn't smart enough to make it or put it 
under one  of the other switching combos 

 But if you have paired an android windows and ios devices then it knows which 
is which and can switch between them.

 Please prove me wrong here as I'm also tring to have more than one IOS devices 
off this one board.

Good luck and I hope this helps.
-Original Message-
From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2020 10:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iClever bluetooth keyboard

Mine is also BK03 although it is bifold only.  Are there any particular key 
combination I need to press to pair it with different devices and then to 
connect to a chosen one?

Andrew
> On 6 Jan 2020, at 11:00, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Yes the model I have can connect to 3 devices,
> 
> I think the model I have is a BK03 
> It's the tri folding bt keyboard,
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, 6 January 2020 1:00 AM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: iClever bluetooth keyboard
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> Hi,
> 
> A question to those who use iClever bluetooth keyboard.  Does this keyboard 
> connect to more than one device?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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