RE: USB flash drive with my phone.

[Simon A Fogarty]

I think you'll find that the Usb device needs a bigger power supply than what 
your phone can provide it.
See what happens if you use a USB hub Powered and then connected to your phone.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2020 8:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: USB flash drive with my phone.

Hi folks.

  I've got the camera connection kit, with the drive plugged in to my phone.

There are zip audio files on the drive.

I want to import these files into voice dream reader.

every time i try this, I get document not available.

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RE: How to place a Facetime audio call from an iPad?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Petrus,

The only thing I use siri for is to make a phone call.

Just a siri call xyz.

Can’t be bothered trying to use ti for other things.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2020 8:33 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to place a Facetime audio call from an iPad?

That’s what I like about this list, instructions are normally given in manual 
gestures. I’m on an NZ based iPhone list and a lot of the members on there 
heavily rely on Siri to do most of  their iPhone and iPad functions. Not that 
there is anything wrong in that, the good thing with Apple is it gives you lots 
of options to achieve the same thing. Personally I never used Siri when I first 
got my phone or iPad  as I wanted to learn how to do it myself.  But  you could 
also ask Siri to place the FaceTime call for you.


On 10/05/2020, at 02:50, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

After pressing the Add button, enter the phone number that you wish to call 
with FaceTime Audio, then press return on the keyboard.  Go back up to the 
entry field and swipe right past the Add Contact button.  There will be buttons 
for Audio and Video calling.  Double-tap whichever you wish and the call should 
be placed.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 9, 2020, at 7:09 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Subject line says it all. I Googled this and found something that said you 
click on the plus sign at the top of the screen, which I assume is referring to 
the Add button. But that just adds the contact to call, I don’t see an option 
for Facetime audio. Anyone know how to do this?
TIA,
Donna


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RE: Full size bluetooth keyboard with numeric keypad

[Simon A Fogarty]

Have a look at the Logitech K780 
I think that is the correct number.

Bluetooth and wifi with dongle included and can work with 3 different types of 
devices.

Also has a full keyboard with number pad.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, 11 May 2020 5:27 AM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Full size bluetooth keyboard with numeric keypad

Hello,
Can anyone recommend a full size bluetooth keyboard with numeric keypad which 
can be easily switched between Mac and iPhone? I have an Apple magic keyboard 
with numeric keypad but don’t much like it. I keep making typing errors due to 
all the keys feeling the same. I get on better with the old fashioned wired 
keyboards with distinctively separate keys.
Many thanks for any tips.
Best …. Paul Hopewell

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Re: USB flash drive with my phone.

[joseph hodge]

I found that there are two camera kits unfortunately I bought the cheaper one 
first and it does not have enough power to run by drives. However the one for 
$39 the camera kit three has a female lightning port that you can use to power 
a device plus charge your eye device and that seems to allow me to connect to 
most of my hard drives. It looks more like a hub because it’s got the square 
plastic housing and has a USB a port and a lightning female port. Hope this 
helps

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2020, at 3:37 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I think you'll find that the Usb device needs a bigger power supply than 
> what your phone can provide it.
> See what happens if you use a USB hub Powered and then connected to your 
> phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2020 8:12 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: USB flash drive with my phone.
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
>  I've got the camera connection kit, with the drive plugged in to my phone.
> 
> There are zip audio files on the drive.
> 
> I want to import these files into voice dream reader.
> 
> every time i try this, I get document not available.
> 
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Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

Is there a way to make it so that each letter isn't individually pronounced? 

Kristeen


On May 7, 2020, at 9:59 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

On iOS, and any and all mention of Remy‘s name, I hear it’s spoken first in 
English, and then in a second voice it is spoken in Arabic. So I’m getting an 
echo. And that’s a little annoying. It’s got nothing to do with race religion 
color creed or anything like that it’s just I’m getting a damn echo and it’s 
only with his name and that’s why I’m asking. Comprende?

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 7, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Simon A Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m sorry I can’t see what the issue is!?
>  
> I’ve seen the Arabic text and not worried about it,
> I hear  his name and it all just sounds like what I hear with everyone elses 
> emails,
>  
> I personally think people need to relax a bit more and not be so judgemental 
> about things that are really not getting annoyed about.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 8:37 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy
>  
> My only gripe is that I have to hear his name twice and it takes up time. I’m 
> not some kind of evil racist.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
>  
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately it isn't enough to just throw in a foreign language, you need 
> to indicate it is a different language. in HTML you would usually use a span 
> tag for this.
> BonJour  
> I wrote the above in textedit and saved it as bj.html (after making sure it 
> was a plain text file). When I opened that file in Safari, VO read it in a 
> French voice. I then copies the entire HTML page and pasted it below, I 
> believe it will still use my  English synthesizer.
> I even tried changing the spell check to French which is enough on Microsoft 
> Word to change the language. So, I don't know how one writes multi-lingual 
> text on Mac and have VO recognize it.
>  
> BonJour
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2020, at 4:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> You shouldn’t really notice any change unless you land on text that is in a 
> different language.  If VO figures out the that it is French, or Spanish etc, 
> it should change accordingly for pronouncing that, or those, words.  It will 
> remain speaking Alex the rest of the time.
>  
> I’ll throw a French word or two in the sentence below to see if it works at 
> all.
>  
> Bonjour, je m’appelle Tim.  Comment ça va?
>  
> A bientot.
> 
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> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2020, at 1:52 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> I read Tim’s instructions but it’s not made any difference.  I land on that 
> option and voice over does nothing when I press the space bar.
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> But I want to use Alex.  I just want to turn off the automatic language so 
> those characters don’t get read out.
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2020, at 20:46, Pete De Vasto  > wrote:
>  
> If you perform the below instructions, using the down-arrow instead of up 
> will take you past the automatic language suggestion and land on other voices 
> like Alex or Victoria or Samantha or whoever you want. At least, that’s what 
> happened to me. Also, it may take a couple of seconds for VO to load the next 
> voice you come upon when you do this.
>  
> Pete
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2020, at 12:41 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> So how do you turn off the automatic language?  Couldn’t find it where the 
> language was.
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2020, at 18:44, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
>  
> This option can be found by holding down, VO + CMD + SHIFT, then + Left or 
> Right Arrow until you get to Voice, then up arrow until you get to 
> Automatically Select Based on Language.
>  
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
>  
>  
> On May 5, 2020, at 11:07, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
>  
> Pete,
> Think it’s under Settings/General/Keyboard. But not absolutely certain.
>  
> 
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Re: Body Cams

[Phil Halton]

Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it sightseeing? Or 
perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl over some little old 
lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m really curious, and that’s 
a rarity for me. Please let me know what you are thinking, it might be an 
interesting idea to try out here.

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>    I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can anyone 
> recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will allow 
> easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Body Cams

[Eric Oyen]

I would also like to find one. I have my reasons (mostly dealing with 
neighborhood issues and the like). It would be nice to experiment with it and 
see (bad joke for me) how they work.

-Eric.


> On May 10, 2020, at 11:15 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can anyone 
> recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will allow 
> easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
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Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy

[Phil Halton]

It’s no longer a problem for me anyway Christine, I found the way to block his 
email address from the list inbox. I’ll just have to forgo the benefit of 
Rameys communications.

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 11, 2020, at 6:42 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to make it so that each letter isn't individually pronounced? 
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 9:59 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> On iOS, and any and all mention of Remy‘s name, I hear it’s spoken first in 
> English, and then in a second voice it is spoken in Arabic. So I’m getting an 
> echo. And that’s a little annoying. It’s got nothing to do with race religion 
> color creed or anything like that it’s just I’m getting a damn echo and it’s 
> only with his name and that’s why I’m asking. Comprende?
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’m sorry I can’t see what the issue is!?
>>  
>> I’ve seen the Arabic text and not worried about it,
>> I hear  his name and it all just sounds like what I hear with everyone elses 
>> emails,
>>  
>> I personally think people need to relax a bit more and not be so judgemental 
>> about things that are really not getting annoyed about.
>>  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On 
>> Behalf Of Phil Halton
>> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 8:37 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy
>>  
>> My only gripe is that I have to hear his name twice and it takes up time. 
>> I’m not some kind of evil racist.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately it isn't enough to just throw in a foreign language, you need 
>> to indicate it is a different language. in HTML you would usually use a span 
>> tag for this.
>> BonJour  
>> I wrote the above in textedit and saved it as bj.html (after making sure it 
>> was a plain text file). When I opened that file in Safari, VO read it in a 
>> French voice. I then copies the entire HTML page and pasted it below, I 
>> believe it will still use my  English synthesizer.
>> I even tried changing the spell check to French which is enough on Microsoft 
>> Word to change the language. So, I don't know how one writes multi-lingual 
>> text on Mac and have VO recognize it.
>>  
>> BonJour
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 5, 2020, at 4:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> You shouldn’t really notice any change unless you land on text that is in a 
>> different language.  If VO figures out the that it is French, or Spanish 
>> etc, it should change accordingly for pronouncing that, or those, words.  It 
>> will remain speaking Alex the rest of the time.
>>  
>> I’ll throw a French word or two in the sentence below to see if it works at 
>> all.
>>  
>> Bonjour, je m’appelle Tim.  Comment ça va?
>>  
>> A bientot.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> On May 5, 2020, at 1:52 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>> I read Tim’s instructions but it’s not made any difference.  I land on that 
>> option and voice over does nothing when I press the space bar.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>> But I want to use Alex.  I just want to turn off the automatic language so 
>> those characters don’t get read out.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 May 2020, at 20:46, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
>>  
>> If you perform the below instructions, using the down-arrow instead of up 
>> will take you past the automatic language suggestion and land on other 
>> voices like Alex or Victoria or Samantha or whoever you want. At least, 
>> that’s what happened to me. Also, it may take a couple of seconds for VO to 
>> load the next voice you come upon when you do this.
>>  
>> Pete
>> 
>> 
>> On May 5, 2020, at 12:41 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>> So how do you turn off the automatic language?  Couldn’t find it where the 
>> language was.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 May 2020, at 18:44, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>  
>> This option can be found by holding down, VO + CMD + SHIFT, then + Left or 
>> Right Arrow until you get to Voice, then up arrow until you get to 
>> Automatically Select Based on Language.
>>  
>> HTH
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On May 5, 2020, at 11:07, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>  
>> Pete,
>> Think it’s under Settings/General/Keyboard. But not absolutely certain.
>>  
>> 
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Re: Body Cams

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Phil,
   Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.

   I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog 
owners who think they have complete control without a leash. And both 
problems are right here in my apartment complex.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:

Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it sightseeing? Or 
perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl over some little old 
lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m really curious, and that’s 
a rarity for me. Please let me know what you are thinking, it might be an 
interesting idea to try out here.

Sent from my IPhone



On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can anyone 
recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will allow easy 
access or transfers to my iPhone.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
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Re: Picker Items

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
You could change the double tap gesture to anything that might work for you.
There’s settings for changing gestures in the voiceover settings.
I apparently don’t know or remember where they were but i have used them and 
tried them out.
/A

> 10 maj 2020 kl. 07:07 skrev Angus MacKinnon :
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> 
> Dave
> 
> I tried out what you suggested. And it did not seem to work on 
> Settings/Accessibility/Voice Over/Speaking Rate. Holding with One Finger and 
> Double Tapping did not seem to work. However, maybe I was doing it wrong. I 
> did eventually found something that worked. Expermentation time.
> 
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> Ghandi said, “ It is better to have a heart without words than words without 
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Re: Full size bluetooth keyboard with numeric keypad

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have a Satechi Bluetooth aluminum bluetooth keyboard which can change between 
the Iphone and the Mac.
Its  good distinct between the keys and there are 3 keys to change between the 
devices you want.
/A

> 10 maj 2020 kl. 19:26 skrev Paul Hopewell :
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> Hello,
> Can anyone recommend a full size bluetooth keyboard with numeric keypad which 
> can be easily switched between Mac and iPhone? I have an Apple magic keyboard 
> with numeric keypad but don’t much like it. I keep making typing errors due 
> to all the keys feeling the same. I get on better with the old fashioned 
> wired keyboards with distinctively separate keys.
> Many thanks for any tips.
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Re: Body Cams

[Phil Halton]

Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide dog is 
dealing with the public sometimes.

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Phil,
>   Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.
> 
>   I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners 
> who think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems are 
> right here in my apartment complex.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it sightseeing? 
>> Or perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl over some little 
>> old lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m really curious, and 
>> that’s a rarity for me. Please let me know what you are thinking, it might 
>> be an interesting idea to try out here.
>> Sent from my IPhone
 On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>>    I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can 
>>> anyone recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will 
>>> allow easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
>>> 
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Re: Body Cams

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Guys,
What about those sun glasses that have a camera built in?
May be I'm missing something but a body camera would require turning your hole 
body towards the shot?
What I've been working towards is something like the camera glasses so you can 
turn your head towards what you want to video and just "shoot"!
I'm going to use it for  things like cars parked over the side walk!
People that can't trim there trees back especially when there wet! :)
And last but not least try and capture those speeding cars license plate as 
they go by!
The head of Sunrise FL code enforcement always likes the videos better than 
just a address for the code infractions! ;)
YMMV
Chuck
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On May 11, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:

> Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide dog 
> is dealing with the public sometimes.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
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>> On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Phil,
>>  Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.
>> 
>>  I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners 
>> who think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems are 
>> right here in my apartment complex.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>> Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it sightseeing? 
>>> Or perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl over some little 
>>> old lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m really curious, and 
>>> that’s a rarity for me. Please let me know what you are thinking, it might 
>>> be an interesting idea to try out here.
>>> Sent from my IPhone
> On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
    I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can 
 anyone recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will 
 allow easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
 
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Re: Body Cams

[Jessica Moss]

What company even still makes camera glasses aside from Google?  This is 
actually something that a lot of Aira explorers have been struggling with sense 
its discontinuation of their Horizon glasses, and in my opinion, the smart 
thing to do would be to create something similar to what OrCam has designed, 
that something being a setup that could snap on to any pair of sunglasses you 
choose to use, instead of a set of predesigned frames, whose intent is, 1 size 
fits all, which never really works out that way.
  However, from what we’ve all been told,  is that Apple and Android won’t 
allow this, which makes no sense to me, sense the more sensible solution, in 
my. Honest opinion, is to create a pair of smart glasses you can wear 
comfortably, have them be completely hands-free, and use them with whichever 
service you want; Aira, FaceTime, Hangouts, etc.

> On May 11, 2020, at 4:18 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> What about those sun glasses that have a camera built in?
> May be I'm missing something but a body camera would require turning your 
> hole body towards the shot?
> What I've been working towards is something like the camera glasses so you 
> can turn your head towards what you want to video and just "shoot"!
> I'm going to use it for  things like cars parked over the side walk!
> People that can't trim there trees back especially when there wet! :)
> And last but not least try and capture those speeding cars license plate as 
> they go by!
> The head of Sunrise FL code enforcement always likes the videos better than 
> just a address for the code infractions! ;)
> YMMV
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
> On May 11, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide dog 
>> is dealing with the public sometimes.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Phil,
>>> Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.
>>> 
>>> I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners 
>>> who think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems are 
>>> right here in my apartment complex.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
 On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
 Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it 
 sightseeing? Or perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl 
 over some little old lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m 
 really curious, and that’s a rarity for me. Please let me know what you 
 are thinking, it might be an interesting idea to try out here.
 Sent from my IPhone
>> On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
> 
>    I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can 
> anyone recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and 
> will allow easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
> 
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Re: To keep my iPhone 11, or go for the iPhone SE

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I want an I phone with Touch ID and Face ID at the same time so I have a choice 
of using Touch ID or Face ID.  Touch ID needs to be under the glass.

Kawal.

> On 10 May 2020, at 15:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Good morning, listers,
> 
> I'm mostly just posting this for fun. Obviously this is more about subjective 
> preference, but I am nonetheless curious about others opinions.
> 
> I've never really paid any attention to the iPhone SE, but  since reading the 
> following article,
> https://doubletap.online/opinion-the-blind-iphone-is-back I have been 
> thinking seriously about "downgrading" from my iPhone 11 to the new SE. I 
> love the idea of the smaller form factor, and, though I've gotten used to 
> face ID, wouldn't at all mind just having a home button again. Neither of 
> these things in and of themselves would have gotten me to switch, but the 
> fact that I could get those things and get a phone with the A13 processor is 
> very intriguing. My one reservation is that the SE will not have as good an 
> upgrade path as the 11, which I mostly care about if Apple comes out with a 
> 5G phone next fall. Thoughts?
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Swift Playgrounds question.

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, I have a couple of questions regarding this app, and am hoping someone on 
here could please give me some tips to get started with it, or with my next 
question, if it’s worth using for this task.  It appears that this app is 
supposed to be a means of teaching someone to write code, which I unfortunately 
am not familiar with how to even do the old fashion way, so my next question 
is, how if at all, can this eventually be used to take a web site that most 
people in the sighted community appears to be accessible, but if you browse 
that same site with VoiceOver, you’re going to run into frames with no alt 
text, and multiple links that just say “click here” “learn more” etc, so in 
either case, you have no idea what you’re clicking on/interacting with?

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Re: Swift Playgrounds question.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Learning Swift will not really help with your situation.  Swift is coding for 
apps and such, whereas the web-site problems are related to how the developer 
coded html for their page.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 11, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have a couple of questions regarding this app, and am hoping someone on 
> here could please give me some tips to get started with it, or with my next 
> question, if it’s worth using for this task.  It appears that this app is 
> supposed to be a means of teaching someone to write code, which I 
> unfortunately am not familiar with how to even do the old fashion way, so my 
> next question is, how if at all, can this eventually be used to take a web 
> site that most people in the sighted community appears to be accessible, but 
> if you browse that same site with VoiceOver, you’re going to run into frames 
> with no alt text, and multiple links that just say “click here” “learn more” 
> etc, so in either case, you have no idea what you’re clicking on/interacting 
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Fwd: [nz_vi_iphone_users] BlindSquare and NaviLens COVID-19 Response information offer

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thought I’d forward the below message for those that are interested.
> Reply-To: nz_vi_iphone_us...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
>  
> Just wanting to share some great news from BlindSquare and NaviLens.
> 
>  
> Please see their release below and links to information resources to assist 
> you learn more about their apps.
> 
>  
> If you haven’t used BlindSquare before, or don’t know what NaviLens is, then 
> please read on  for more details.  Please also note that BlindSquare are also 
> providing a limited time free offer. 
> 
> Please feel free to share with others in your community.
> 
>  
> Regards
> 
>  
> Thomas
> 
>  
> Thomas Bryan
> 
> National Technology Advisor
> 
> Blind Low Vision NZ
> 
>  
> P: 04 3802140 ext:2140 | M: +6421436365 | E:tbr...@blindlowvision.org.nz 
> 
>  
> 121 Adelaide Road, Newtown
> 
> Wellington 6021
> 
>  
> 
> Find out why we’ve changed our name 
> 
>  
> COVID-19 Keeping us indoors, with unique opportunities supported 
> byBlindSquare and NaviLens <>.
> 
>  
> May 21st is Global Accessibility Awareness Day, focusing on digital access 
> and inclusion for the more than one billion people with disabilities. 
> 
> Across our globe, the impact of the pandemic is found. Some impacts are led 
> by common sense (avoid exposures, battle all exposures with “be clean” 
> responses), and some by country/local laws restricting travel entirely or by 
> degree.
> 
> BlindSquare  and NaviLens 
>  join to serve on the frontline.
> 
> Being stuck indoors. 
> Has the pandemic created a greater impact for persons who are blind, 
> deafblind, or partially sighted?  Absolutely. These persons now have a 
> heightened need to “be aware” of current locations and planned destinations. 
> They need to know where they are and limit their exposures.
> 
> A new opportunity to experience your environment.  
> BlindSquare  and NaviLens 
> , leaders in improving the lives for those who are 
> blind/deafblind or partially sighted, bring you an opportunity to discover 
> abilities and equip yourself in anticipation of a return to a new normal, and 
> to provide you greater independence, comfort, and location awareness with 
> immediate and long term rewards.
> 
> BlindSquare is the world’s most widely used accessible GPS iOS app developed 
> for persons who are blind, deafblind or partially sighted. Paired with 
> third-party navigation apps, BlindSquare’s self-voicing app delivers detailed 
> points of interest and intersections for safe, reliable travel. Paired with 
> NaviLens, the app that scans proprietary codes to deliver situational 
> information instantly, this duo offers an unmatched experience for users to 
> navigate independently and more importantly in today’s environment, safely.
> 
> While our products have been helpful for our current users, we pondered, why 
> it can’t be great for all during this stress-filled time? We looked for a way 
> to solve this, without cost.
> 
> BlindSquare’s reputation, across its 8 years of service, is replete with 
> personal success stories such as those that extoll the value of travel 
> information for making informed choices and the ability to “simulate” future 
> destinations for adventure.  When using simulation, BlindSquare behaves just 
> as if you’re there! And withNaviLens  on board  
> your device, you have access to their award-winning technology to create 
> personal tags that can be used to “label your world” for such things as 
> cupboard content, prescription bottles, fridge contents (including best 
> before dates!), contents of your bar, contents of your freezer, and more. 
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> 
> So, in co-operation and consultation with many educators and organizations 
> supporting persons who are blind, deafblind, or partially sighted, we have 
> committed to make BlindSquare EVENT (version 
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> EVENT means a full-featured version of BlindSquare for iOS users that is 
> geofenced to the continents of New Zealand, Australia, North America (Canada 
> and the USA), Greenland, Mexico, Spain, Portugal and Japan—well over 25 
> million square miles! Mid November, BlindSquare EVENT will return to 
> Demonstration mode, NaviLens will continue.
> 
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> enablement that our solutions provide.
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> BlindSquare resources
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Re: Body Cams

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Such a cam would not produce a smooth video, too jerky. A good body 
cam will have 180 degree view angle.


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On 5/11/2020 1:18 PM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:

Hi Guys,
What about those sun glasses that have a camera built in?
May be I'm missing something but a body camera would require turning your hole 
body towards the shot?
What I've been working towards is something like the camera glasses so you can turn your 
head towards what you want to video and just "shoot"!
I'm going to use it for  things like cars parked over the side walk!
People that can't trim there trees back especially when there wet! :)
And last but not least try and capture those speeding cars license plate as 
they go by!
The head of Sunrise FL code enforcement always likes the videos better than 
just a address for the code infractions! ;)
YMMV
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On May 11, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:


Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide dog is 
dealing with the public sometimes.

Sent from my IPhone



On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Phil,
  Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.

  I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners 
who think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems are 
right here in my apartment complex.

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On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it sightseeing? Or 
perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl over some little old 
lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m really curious, and that’s 
a rarity for me. Please let me know what you are thinking, it might be an 
interesting idea to try out here.
Sent from my IPhone

On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


   I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can anyone 
recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will allow easy 
access or transfers to my iPhone.

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Re: Body Cams

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Jessica,
   Please elaborate. Apple won't allow what?

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On 5/11/2020 1:27 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

What company even still makes camera glasses aside from Google?  This is 
actually something that a lot of Aira explorers have been struggling with sense 
its discontinuation of their Horizon glasses, and in my opinion, the smart 
thing to do would be to create something similar to what OrCam has designed, 
that something being a setup that could snap on to any pair of sunglasses you 
choose to use, instead of a set of predesigned frames, whose intent is, 1 size 
fits all, which never really works out that way.
   However, from what we’ve all been told,  is that Apple and Android won’t 
allow this, which makes no sense to me, sense the more sensible solution, in 
my. Honest opinion, is to create a pair of smart glasses you can wear 
comfortably, have them be completely hands-free, and use them with whichever 
service you want; Aira, FaceTime, Hangouts, etc.


On May 11, 2020, at 4:18 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
wrote:

Hi Guys,
What about those sun glasses that have a camera built in?
May be I'm missing something but a body camera would require turning your hole 
body towards the shot?
What I've been working towards is something like the camera glasses so you can turn your 
head towards what you want to video and just "shoot"!
I'm going to use it for  things like cars parked over the side walk!
People that can't trim there trees back especially when there wet! :)
And last but not least try and capture those speeding cars license plate as 
they go by!
The head of Sunrise FL code enforcement always likes the videos better than 
just a address for the code infractions! ;)
YMMV
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On May 11, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:


Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide dog is 
dealing with the public sometimes.

Sent from my IPhone



On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Phil,
Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.

I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners who 
think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems are right 
here in my apartment complex.

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in the past. What if it were true?


On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it sightseeing? Or 
perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl over some little old 
lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m really curious, and that’s 
a rarity for me. Please let me know what you are thinking, it might be an 
interesting idea to try out here.
Sent from my IPhone

On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


   I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can anyone 
recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will allow easy 
access or transfers to my iPhone.

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Re: How to place a Facetime audio call from an iPad?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Yes, I’m the same, don’t use Siri for a lot at all. But there are plenty out 
there that use it a lot and even rely on it. And why not, as long as people are 
using the tools on the iPhone or iPad that suits their needs and getting the 
job done. I wasn’t aiming that comment at you. 

> On 11/05/2020, at 19:40, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Petrus,
>  
> The only thing I use siri for is to make a phone call.
>  
> Just a siri call xyz.
>  
> Can’t be bothered trying to use ti for other things.
>  
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to place a Facetime audio call from an iPad?
>  
> That’s what I like about this list, instructions are normally given in manual 
> gestures. I’m on an NZ based iPhone list and a lot of the members on there 
> heavily rely on Siri to do most of  their iPhone and iPad functions. Not that 
> there is anything wrong in that, the good thing with Apple is it gives you 
> lots of options to achieve the same thing. Personally I never used Siri when 
> I first got my phone or iPad  as I wanted to learn how to do it myself.  But  
> you could also ask Siri to place the FaceTime call for you. 
> 
> 
> On 10/05/2020, at 02:50, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> After pressing the Add button, enter the phone number that you wish to call 
> with FaceTime Audio, then press return on the keyboard.  Go back up to the 
> entry field and swipe right past the Add Contact button.  There will be 
> buttons for Audio and Video calling.  Double-tap whichever you wish and the 
> call should be placed.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> 
> 
> On May 9, 2020, at 7:09 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> 
> Subject line says it all. I Googled this and found something that said you 
> click on the plus sign at the top of the screen, which I assume is referring 
> to the Add button. But that just adds the contact to call, I don’t see an 
> option for Facetime audio. Anyone know how to do this?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Body Cams

[Jessica Moss]

Supposedly, the ability to simply pair smart glasses with your device, which 
was something many of us who are Aira Explorers thought should be an easier fix 
than a brand new prototype that either has its own wireless connectivity you 
have to carry around, or a cable that plugs into the glasses and then into an 
Android phone, the model of which they were using is now pretty much obsolete, 
and service with that was great compared to what they used to use, until 
suddenly it wasn’t for a number of reasons.  That’s why I’ve thought for a long 
time, that it would make sense to just be able to create something similar to 
what OrCam has to offer, only it could be a pair of smart glasses that you 
could simply connect to whatever service you want to use them with that uses a 
video feed, whether it be FaceTime, Aira, Zoom, you name it.
  However, I’m also not that tech-savvy when it comes to these things, and so 
it may not be as easy as it sounds to me to do such a thing.

> On May 11, 2020, at 5:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> Jessica,
>   Please elaborate. Apple won't allow what?
> 
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> On 5/11/2020 1:27 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>> What company even still makes camera glasses aside from Google?  This is 
>> actually something that a lot of Aira explorers have been struggling with 
>> sense its discontinuation of their Horizon glasses, and in my opinion, the 
>> smart thing to do would be to create something similar to what OrCam has 
>> designed, that something being a setup that could snap on to any pair of 
>> sunglasses you choose to use, instead of a set of predesigned frames, whose 
>> intent is, 1 size fits all, which never really works out that way.
>>   However, from what we’ve all been told,  is that Apple and Android won’t 
>> allow this, which makes no sense to me, sense the more sensible solution, in 
>> my. Honest opinion, is to create a pair of smart glasses you can wear 
>> comfortably, have them be completely hands-free, and use them with whichever 
>> service you want; Aira, FaceTime, Hangouts, etc.
>>> On May 11, 2020, at 4:18 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> What about those sun glasses that have a camera built in?
>>> May be I'm missing something but a body camera would require turning your 
>>> hole body towards the shot?
>>> What I've been working towards is something like the camera glasses so you 
>>> can turn your head towards what you want to video and just "shoot"!
>>> I'm going to use it for  things like cars parked over the side walk!
>>> People that can't trim there trees back especially when there wet! :)
>>> And last but not least try and capture those speeding cars license plate as 
>>> they go by!
>>> The head of Sunrise FL code enforcement always likes the videos better than 
>>> just a address for the code infractions! ;)
>>> YMMV
>>> Chuck
>>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>>> "Albert Einstein’
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 11, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>> 
 Yeah, I had a guy dog wants to. The hardest thing about working a guide 
 dog is dealing with the public sometimes.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
> On May 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Phil,
> Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.
> 
> I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog 
> owners who think they have complete control without a leash. And both 
> problems are right here in my apartment complex.
> 
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>> On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it 
>> sightseeing? Or perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl 
>> over some little old lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m 
>> really curious, and that’s a rarity for me. Please let me know what you 
>> are thinking, it might be an interesting idea to try out here.
>> Sent from my IPhone
 On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>>    I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can 
>>> anyone recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and 
>>> will allow easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
>>> 
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Re: To keep my iPhone 11, or go for the iPhone SE

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

I am using diffrent phones for, diffrent things, even an android, yes you heard 
me right. I am most likely going to get a SE. it should be better than my 7, 
and why not the 7 says it needs its battery changed, so now is a good time as 
ever too do it.

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> On 11 May 2020, at 22.33, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I want an I phone with Touch ID and Face ID at the same time so I have a 
> choice of using Touch ID or Face ID.  Touch ID needs to be under the glass.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 10 May 2020, at 15:58, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, listers,
>> 
>> I'm mostly just posting this for fun. Obviously this is more about 
>> subjective preference, but I am nonetheless curious about others opinions.
>> 
>> I've never really paid any attention to the iPhone SE, but  since reading 
>> the following article,
>> https://doubletap.online/opinion-the-blind-iphone-is-back I have been 
>> thinking seriously about "downgrading" from my iPhone 11 to the new SE. I 
>> love the idea of the smaller form factor, and, though I've gotten used to 
>> face ID, wouldn't at all mind just having a home button again. Neither of 
>> these things in and of themselves would have gotten me to switch, but the 
>> fact that I could get those things and get a phone with the A13 processor is 
>> very intriguing. My one reservation is that the SE will not have as good an 
>> upgrade path as the 11, which I mostly care about if Apple comes out with a 
>> 5G phone next fall. Thoughts?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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RE: USB flash drive with my phone.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I do to,

I saw this done on a phone a couple of years back but it was a jail break phone 
which the guy needed to power the hub to get enough power to the USb adapter in 
his phone to run the usb flash drive.

Which really makes sense.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of joseph hodge
Sent: Monday, 11 May 2020 9:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USB flash drive with my phone.

I found that there are two camera kits unfortunately I bought the cheaper one 
first and it does not have enough power to run by drives. However the one for 
$39 the camera kit three has a female lightning port that you can use to power 
a device plus charge your eye device and that seems to allow me to connect to 
most of my hard drives. It looks more like a hub because it’s got the square 
plastic housing and has a USB a port and a lightning female port. Hope this 
helps

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2020, at 3:37 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I think you'll find that the Usb device needs a bigger power supply than 
> what your phone can provide it.
> See what happens if you use a USB hub Powered and then connected to your 
> phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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> Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2020 8:12 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: USB flash drive with my phone.
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
>  I've got the camera connection kit, with the drive plugged in to my phone.
> 
> There are zip audio files on the drive.
> 
> I want to import these files into voice dream reader.
> 
> every time i try this, I get document not available.
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RE: Body Cams

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah the knocking over of old people and or children!

I think the old folks take it harder!


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 2:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Body Cams

Phil,
Oh that poor lady that I bowled over years ago. Fortunately she was ok.

I work a guide dog so I have idiot drivers as well as idiot pet dog owners 
who think they have complete control without a leash. And both problems are 
right here in my apartment complex.

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On 5/11/2020 6:52 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
> Hi ET, I’m curious as to why you want to use a body cam. Is it sightseeing? 
> Or perhaps it’s covering yourself legally in case you bowl over some little 
> old lady on the sidewalk? (Been there, done that!)  I’m really curious, and 
> that’s a rarity for me. Please let me know what you are thinking, it might be 
> an interesting idea to try out here.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>    I'm looking into getting one of these to use when out walking. Can 
>> anyone recommend one? I want something that is easy to start/stop and will 
>> allow easy access or transfers to my iPhone.
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