Re: google meet invitation link not working

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Can it be that Safari has been updated?
I guess that might be something to consider or what do you think?
/A

> 22 sep. 2020 kl. 20:28 skrev Leo Bado :
> 
> yeah, next time I'll do it and see how that goes... but still, this is pretty 
> weird because I had a meeting last saturday and everything went OK, this 
> problem started yesterday...
> 
> 
> 
> Leo Bado
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> On 9/22/2020 7:30 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I can’t remember if i used my Iphone or Ipad with Google meet.
>> I used my mac once but the interface seemed a bit klunky so i used the meet 
>> app on my Ipad instead.
>> But it should work on your mac.
>> Have you launched the link in safari and checked the windows chooser or 
>> program chooser to see if something is there  like some warning message from 
>> the Mac operating system.
>> Try doing that.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 22 sep. 2020 kl. 15:24 skrev Leo Bado >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hello, I hope everyone is doing well and staying safe!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The purpose of this message is to describe a problem I had yesterday when I 
>>> tried to join a google meeting from my mac. I had never experienced this 
>>> problem before. For some reason, whenever I tried to activate the link, 
>>> safari was launched as usual, but safari neither displayed any information 
>>> nor showed up the usual dialogue requesting permission to access google 
>>> meets. I tried everything I  could come up with, but the result was always 
>>> the same. Since I have my e-mail synchronized with my other devices, 
>>> including my iPhone and my windows pc computer, I tried opening the link 
>>> from those devices and for my surprise, I didn’t experience any problem. I 
>>> don’t want this happening to me since I love to be able to connect to these 
>>> meetings from my mac.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Has someone had this happening and how you solve it?
>>> 
>>>  
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Re: Combo boxes on Safari

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I suppose this is on a mac.
Have you tried dragging the mouse to the voiceOver Cursor by pressing control 
option command plus f5.
If that doesn’t work then you might try google chrome.
Or mail apple accesibility.
The thing with Accessibility is that they very often tell you to ask the 
webmaster on certain webs to make the webpage more accessible by referring to 
their accessibility developer site.
Which sometimes in my opinion feels like they don’t want to deal with the 
problem.
/A

> 23 sep. 2020 kl. 03:29 skrev Kerryann Ifill :
> 
> Dear all:
> 
> I’ve been rather distressed recently with the combo boxes on safari. The zoom 
> website for scheduling meetings won’t  let me adjust the dates and times and 
> the Microsoft forms site has been also disturbing.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Regards
> Kerry
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Re: google meet invitation link not working

[Leo Bado]

well, definitely it's possible, I'll see during my next meeting how it goes


Leo Bado

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On 9/23/2020 1:56 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Can it be that Safari has been updated?
I guess that might be something to consider or what do you think?
/A

22 sep. 2020 kl. 20:28 skrev Leo Bado >:


yeah, next time I'll do it and see how that goes... but still, this 
is pretty weird because I had a meeting last saturday and everything 
went OK, this problem started yesterday...



Leo Bado

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― haruki murakami,
On 9/22/2020 7:30 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I can’t remember if i used my Iphone or Ipad with Google meet.
I used my mac once but the interface seemed a bit klunky so i used 
the meet app on my Ipad instead.

But it should work on your mac.
Have you launched the link in safari and checked the windows chooser 
or program chooser to see if something is there  like some warning 
message from the Mac operating system.

Try doing that.
/A

22 sep. 2020 kl. 15:24 skrev Leo Bado >:


Hello, I hope everyone is doing well and staying safe!



The purpose of this message is to describe a problem I had 
yesterday when I tried to join a google meeting from my mac. I had 
never experienced this problem before. For some reason, whenever I 
tried to activate the link, safari was launched as usual, but 
safari neither displayed any information nor showed up the usual 
dialogue requesting permission to access google meets. I tried 
everything I could come up with, but the result was always the 
same. Since I have my e-mail synchronized with my other devices, 
including my iPhone and my windows pc computer, I tried opening the 
link from those devices and for my surprise, I didn’t experience 
any problem. I don’t want this happening to me since I love to be 
able to connect to these meetings from my mac.



Has someone had this happening and how you solve it?


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Safari chat unable to enter text

[Ian Harrison]

Hi listers,

When in a chat element on a particular web page, voiceover tells me I am in a 
text entry area and then says edit message. This would normally mean I could 
start typing and get voiceover feedback as I type. However, voiceover is silent 
when I hit keys and the edit box does not appear to be accepting what I type.

I vaguely remember this as a problem some years ago but can’t remember the work 
around if there is one.

Any help?
Thanks
Ian

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Re: Fusion 12 Released

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Sheri:

Janina from the Silver W3C work here. I recall you mentioning this
release was coming. It sounds good enough to have me reaching for my
wallet! I hope I'm still an upgrade--though I'm several versions back
now.

Best,

Really happy to see you on this list following up with the accessibility
enhancements. That's the way things should work, imo.

Best,

Janina

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> Been lurking on this group for a couple of months.  I was VMware's first
> accessibility manager and have recently moved into an accessibility
> architect role.  There are a significant number of accessibility
> improvements in the new releases of Player, Workstation, and Fusion.  Here
> are the links.
> 
> https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/12_0
> 
> https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_workstation_pro/16_0
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> https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_workstation_player/16_0
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> We will be doing user research with screen reader users on these products
> in the November-January timeframe.  If you are interested in participating,
> please ping me at sbyrnehaber at vmware dot com.  You can also connect with
> me on LinkedIn, the session dates will be announced there as well.
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> 
> Thanks,
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> 
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> > update process, VMware Fusion 12 is released (and Workstation 16). If you
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> > on 3 personal machines. Also, there’s a free Player tier, for those whose
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Re: Safari chat unable to enter text

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
You could try ctrl option spacebar.
When you stand on the edit field.
/A

> 23 sep. 2020 kl. 13:43 skrev Ian Harrison :
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> Hi listers,
> 
> When in a chat element on a particular web page, voiceover tells me I am in a 
> text entry area and then says edit message. This would normally mean I could 
> start typing and get voiceover feedback as I type. However, voiceover is 
> silent when I hit keys and the edit box does not appear to be accepting what 
> I type.
> 
> I vaguely remember this as a problem some years ago but can’t remember the 
> work around if there is one.
> 
> Any help?
> Thanks
> Ian
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Full Keyboard in iOS 14

[Danny Keys]

Hi list,
Has anyone used the full keyboard option for Bluetooth keyboards? If so, how 
did you like or not like it?
I was trying to use it, but discovered that it kind of confuses the touch 
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Any thoughts.



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Re: strange email behavior on my iPad

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

This problem has come to my I phone 10 I couldn’t send an email using this 
alias to one of my lists since I only use this alias on the lists.  I can’t 
find the alias on my I phone so how to turn this feature off and on now please? 
 Why has this thing have to change all the time, it drives me mad.

Kawal.  

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> Hello Harry, 
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> Your scenario is slightly different than those of us old-timers with .me 
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> Perform some Google searches, as I did, and you may find the solution.
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> Also, there is no harm in first enabling your alias, in questin, and then 
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> My alias is already set to off and yet the problem occurs!
> Harry
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>> On 21 Sep 2020, at 22:19, M. Taylor  wrote:
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>> So, in short, what you and I want is to send emails that display our .me 
>> email address, only, not our iCloud alias; or any other iCloud alias, for 
>> that matter.
>> 
>> To do this in OS 14, do the following:
>> 
>> 1.
>> From settings, select your name.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select iCloud.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Near the bottom of the display, select Mail.  A dialog window will open.  
>> 
>> 4.
>> Disable your iCloud alias by toggling it to Off.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Select the Done button, near the upper right corner of the display, to save 
>> your changes.
>> 
>> That's all there is to it.
>> 
>> Strangely enough, apparently, this is a feature that was introduced in OS 13 
>> but the default for aliases was automatically set to off
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Safari Version 14

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi all,

My sighted wife’s iMac, running Mojave, automatically updated to Safari 14 a 
few days ago, and she immediately started having problems with some sites 
giving messages about having difficulty loading. She also pointed out that 
things looked quite different from what she had previously under Safari 13. I’m 
the techie of the family, but my Mac mini, also running Mojave, had not updated 
to Safari 14 yet. I decided to bite the bullet and bring my system up to the 
same level as hers in hopes I could be of some help to her, so I now also have 
Safari 14. Boy, what a heck of a difference! Has anyone else been upgraded to 
Safari 14, and if so what have your experiences been? I’m a bit overwhelmed, 
and my first thought is I’d love to go back to Safari 13, but I bet that’s not 
possible given how Apple does things. I’ll just have to figure out how to get 
the best experiences with it. By the way, I think I reached out a day or two 
ago asking about the site reloading issue, and think now that it might have 
something to do with Safari 14, but not sure.

Thanks for any thoughts!
Pete De Vasto

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Re: Safari Version 14

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I don’t have a lot of problems at all.
Things work quite well.
But i am running Catalina so i guess that is why.
/A

> 23 sep. 2020 kl. 20:07 skrev Pete De Vasto :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My sighted wife’s iMac, running Mojave, automatically updated to Safari 14 a 
> few days ago, and she immediately started having problems with some sites 
> giving messages about having difficulty loading. She also pointed out that 
> things looked quite different from what she had previously under Safari 13. 
> I’m the techie of the family, but my Mac mini, also running Mojave, had not 
> updated to Safari 14 yet. I decided to bite the bullet and bring my system up 
> to the same level as hers in hopes I could be of some help to her, so I now 
> also have Safari 14. Boy, what a heck of a difference! Has anyone else been 
> upgraded to Safari 14, and if so what have your experiences been? I’m a bit 
> overwhelmed, and my first thought is I’d love to go back to Safari 13, but I 
> bet that’s not possible given how Apple does things. I’ll just have to figure 
> out how to get the best experiences with it. By the way, I think I reached 
> out a day or two ago asking about the site reloading issue, and think now 
> that it might have something to do with Safari 14, but not sure.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts!
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Safari Version 14

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, I am not sure what the differences between Safari 14 on the BigSir versus 
on older systems, but on Bigsir they are promoting that it prevents site 
trackers by default. Of course, Safari is not the only browser that has started 
doing this. So it is possible, that when Safari  blocks these third party 
frames (facebook, google analytics, triter) that it changes the look of the 
site a bit. I also have had some focus problems with Safari 14 that appear to 
be slightly better if you tell VoiceOver to start on the first item on the 
window instead of the focused position.

HTH!

Jonathan Cohn



> On Sep 23, 2020, at 14:07, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My sighted wife’s iMac, running Mojave, automatically updated to Safari 14 a 
> few days ago, and she immediately started having problems with some sites 
> giving messages about having difficulty loading. She also pointed out that 
> things looked quite different from what she had previously under Safari 13. 
> I’m the techie of the family, but my Mac mini, also running Mojave, had not 
> updated to Safari 14 yet. I decided to bite the bullet and bring my system up 
> to the same level as hers in hopes I could be of some help to her, so I now 
> also have Safari 14. Boy, what a heck of a difference! Has anyone else been 
> upgraded to Safari 14, and if so what have your experiences been? I’m a bit 
> overwhelmed, and my first thought is I’d love to go back to Safari 13, but I 
> bet that’s not possible given how Apple does things. I’ll just have to figure 
> out how to get the best experiences with it. By the way, I think I reached 
> out a day or two ago asking about the site reloading issue, and think now 
> that it might have something to do with Safari 14, but not sure.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts!
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Safari Version 14

[Herbie Allen]

Are you able to upgrade to Catalina? I updated my Safari last week and the only 
difference I have experienced is where the bookmarks are located now.

> On Sep 23, 2020, at 13:07, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My sighted wife’s iMac, running Mojave, automatically updated to Safari 14 a 
> few days ago, and she immediately started having problems with some sites 
> giving messages about having difficulty loading. She also pointed out that 
> things looked quite different from what she had previously under Safari 13. 
> I’m the techie of the family, but my Mac mini, also running Mojave, had not 
> updated to Safari 14 yet. I decided to bite the bullet and bring my system up 
> to the same level as hers in hopes I could be of some help to her, so I now 
> also have Safari 14. Boy, what a heck of a difference! Has anyone else been 
> upgraded to Safari 14, and if so what have your experiences been? I’m a bit 
> overwhelmed, and my first thought is I’d love to go back to Safari 13, but I 
> bet that’s not possible given how Apple does things. I’ll just have to figure 
> out how to get the best experiences with it. By the way, I think I reached 
> out a day or two ago asking about the site reloading issue, and think now 
> that it might have something to do with Safari 14, but not sure.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts!
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Safari chat unable to enter text

[Phil Halton]

I run into these types of fields fairly often. I normally do a mouse click on 
the field and that opens it up for editing. You could also try simply 
interacting with it before typing. In case you don’t know to do a mouse click 
first route the mouse to the field with control option command F5, then do the 
mouse click control option shift spacebar. That should open it up for typing.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Sep 23, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> You could try ctrl option spacebar.
> When you stand on the edit field.
> /A
> 
>> 23 sep. 2020 kl. 13:43 skrev Ian Harrison :
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>> When in a chat element on a particular web page, voiceover tells me I am in 
>> a text entry area and then says edit message. This would normally mean I 
>> could start typing and get voiceover feedback as I type. However, voiceover 
>> is silent when I hit keys and the edit box does not appear to be accepting 
>> what I type.
>> 
>> I vaguely remember this as a problem some years ago but can’t remember the 
>> work around if there is one.
>> 
>> Any help?
>> Thanks
>> Ian
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Re: Fusion 12 Released

[maurice mines]

hello, you Nina I am wondering if you happen to have a list of key 
commands for orca? I'm sorry to put this on the list but I don't have 
Nina's direct email address please forgive me for posting something a 
bit off topic.



To the persons who actually works for VMware, so far I like version 12 
player I'm not a developer, I am a out of school somewhat student 
because of the pandemic I'm not in class. You can't do sign language 
directly and do social distancing. They don't work together at all. All 
I can say about version 12 is so far so good.



Please note that the above has been dictated to the computer by means of 
dictation software. If there's something about that you don't 
understand, please ask me what my original intent was? I will do 
everything I can to clear up any misunderstanding that may arise from 
the about text. Thank you very much for reading this.



Note number two I am aware that this is a Mac list I'm running Windows 
10 in a boot camp configuration the main reason why I am doing this in 
Windows is because that's where the dictation software is the company 
that produces the dictation software withdrew from the Apple market some 
time ago. So that's my only method of dictating to the computer and 
having it come out somewhat coherently is to use Windows. I hope this 
explains things?



To the list moderators please please please! Excuse this somewhat 
off-topic post. It was not intended to be this way but I didn't have the 
direct email address of the person I'm am predominantly addressing my 
comments to. If either Mart has a problem please feel free to write me 
off this and I can explain more if you wish.



Sincerely Maurice Mines.

On 9/23/2020 8:25 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi, Sheri:

Janina from the Silver W3C work here. I recall you mentioning this
release was coming. It sounds good enough to have me reaching for my
wallet! I hope I'm still an upgrade--though I'm several versions back
now.

Best,

Really happy to see you on this list following up with the accessibility
enhancements. That's the way things should work, imo.

Best,

Janina

Sheri Byrne writes:

Hi folx,

Been lurking on this group for a couple of months.  I was VMware's first
accessibility manager and have recently moved into an accessibility
architect role.  There are a significant number of accessibility
improvements in the new releases of Player, Workstation, and Fusion.  Here
are the links.

https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/12_0

https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_workstation_pro/16_0

https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_workstation_player/16_0


We will be doing user research with screen reader users on these products
in the November-January timeframe.  If you are interested in participating,
please ping me at sbyrnehaber at vmware dot com.  You can also connect with
me on LinkedIn, the session dates will be announced there as well.


Thanks,


Sheri

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:54 PM 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:


In the event that the news hasn’t reached you yet, perhaps via the Fusion
update process, VMware Fusion 12 is released (and Workstation 16). If you
buy an upgrade to either for the princely sum of $99, you can access both
on 3 personal machines. Also, there’s a free Player tier, for those whose
needs are less pro.

Go to your local online VMware store to purchase yours today. If you check
for updates, you should be directed there.

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Re: Full Keyboard in iOS 14

[Ryan Mann]

With VoiceOver, you can already control your phone with a Bluetooth keyboard.  
This option just benefits people who don’t use VoiceOver, correct?

Get Outlook for iOS

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Danny Keys 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 1:23:39 PM
To: Mac Visionaries 
Subject: Full Keyboard in iOS 14

Hi list,
Has anyone used the full keyboard option for Bluetooth keyboards? If so, how 
did you like or not like it?
I was trying to use it, but discovered that it kind of confuses the touch 
screen.
Any thoughts.



Danny Keys


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