Re: Text edit

[Brad Snyder]

In the Main MenuBar, go to Edit > Find, open the submenu and you will find 
several Find actions, and the keyboard command for each option.
>From within the document, you can invoke Find and Replace, using the keyboard 
>command CMD + OPT + F.

- Brad -


On Oct 21, 2020, at 22:37, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I changed the subject line because we are now talking about text edit. how do I 
do a search and replace in there? I've got all these i circumflexes and i 
acutes for apostrophes and quotation marks. no idea how that happened but I'm 
pretty sure I can't fix it in a braille note.

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> The fact that you indicated you didn’t have MS Word on your Mac, is another 
> reason I suggested that you use TextEdit.
> 
> You can convert a .txt file to MS Word format, using TextEdit as follows:
> 1.  Use the Mac keyboard command CMD + Shift + T, to convert the file from 
> plain text format to RTF format.
> 2.  Use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + Shift + S, to do a Save As, and 
> select either .doc or .docx from the list of available file formats in the 
> dialog.
> 
> HTH. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 16:12, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> you're right, Brad. I'm working on a book so I don't have to worry about 
> headings so for me, that's a viable solution. I don't even have ms word for 
> Mac. 
> 
> another question, how would I change a txt file into a doc file in Text edit?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chanelle,
>> 
>> I am not sure about the workaround for the Heading issue in TextEdit.  As 
>> you know, TextEdit is not nearly as full featured as MS Word.  I recommended 
>> TextEdit because the original poster was attempting to edit a .doc file she 
>> had created on a braille notetaker.  I recommended TextEdit because it would 
>> allow her to open and edit, and then save the file, while maintaining the 
>> .doc format, something that cannot be done when using Pages.
>> Yes, I know that a Pages file can be exported to one of the MS Word formats, 
>> but since the file was already in .doc, I thought using TextEdit was the 
>> simplest solution.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 13:01, Chanelle Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am a bit late to this conversation. My curiosity was piqued though, so I 
>> decided to investigate. Oddly, opening a Docx file in TextEdit retained the 
>> font type, style, and size for body text but not headings. The Docx file 
>> also seems to strip links but retain bulleted lists, although tabs are used 
>> instead of traditional formatting. I then converted the file to Doc using 
>> Microsoft Word for Mac. The links and font changes are retained. I am not 
>> sure if the list formatting is changed in the Doc version because there 
>> seems to be no reliable method for obtaining text position information. 
>> VO-F5-F5 only goes so far--especially when I can't get the mouse cursor to 
>> the exact location of the VO cursor. A VoiceOver equivalent of the Jaws 
>> alt-delete would be extremely helpful.
>> As a general question, since TextEdit does not have traditional heading 
>> styles, is there a work around? I decided to use the copy style command and 
>> chose to keep paragraph spacing, font, and ruler position when 
>> defining/saving a heading level 1, so I will see if that works.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Chanelle M. Allen
>> iBUG Mac Instructor
>> chanellem.al...@gmail.com 
>> www.ibugtoday.org 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 08:24, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, of course. That's why I recommended that you use it.
>>> Text edit will open, work in, and save to a number of different file 
>>> formats. .
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 01:28, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> will text edit open a doc file?
>>> 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 You might try editing the document in Text Edit rather than Pages.
 Text Edit will allow you to work in the documents existing format.  Pages 
 will not.
 
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 19:22, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I have a long document that I wrote on a braille note ages ago. when I 
 changed the format to doc, something happened and the first letter of each 
 line is missing or off by itself. it reads fine on a newer braille note so 
 I guess I'm going to have to correct it on my Mac using pages. I don't 
 know much about pages. I opened the document but I can't figure out how to 
 get into the text and locate each letter like I might if I were editing an 
 email. how do I do this?
 I might 

Re: pages on a Mac

[Brad Snyder]

The command is a toggle.  Doing the command should switch between plain text 
format and RTF format.
When changing to plain text, you should receive a dialog box warning that 
converting to plain text will remove certain text attributes.  This dialog 
warning does not appear when converting to RTF.

- Brad -


On Oct 21, 2020, at 22:22, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

when I have the plain text file open in text edit and I press command-shift-t, 
vo says: "make plain text." it already is. is there a way to find rtf in there?

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> The fact that you indicated you didn’t have MS Word on your Mac, is another 
> reason I suggested that you use TextEdit.
> 
> You can convert a .txt file to MS Word format, using TextEdit as follows:
> 1.  Use the Mac keyboard command CMD + Shift + T, to convert the file from 
> plain text format to RTF format.
> 2.  Use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + Shift + S, to do a Save As, and 
> select either .doc or .docx from the list of available file formats in the 
> dialog.
> 
> HTH. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 16:12, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> you're right, Brad. I'm working on a book so I don't have to worry about 
> headings so for me, that's a viable solution. I don't even have ms word for 
> Mac. 
> 
> another question, how would I change a txt file into a doc file in Text edit?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chanelle,
>> 
>> I am not sure about the workaround for the Heading issue in TextEdit.  As 
>> you know, TextEdit is not nearly as full featured as MS Word.  I recommended 
>> TextEdit because the original poster was attempting to edit a .doc file she 
>> had created on a braille notetaker.  I recommended TextEdit because it would 
>> allow her to open and edit, and then save the file, while maintaining the 
>> .doc format, something that cannot be done when using Pages.
>> Yes, I know that a Pages file can be exported to one of the MS Word formats, 
>> but since the file was already in .doc, I thought using TextEdit was the 
>> simplest solution.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 13:01, Chanelle Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am a bit late to this conversation. My curiosity was piqued though, so I 
>> decided to investigate. Oddly, opening a Docx file in TextEdit retained the 
>> font type, style, and size for body text but not headings. The Docx file 
>> also seems to strip links but retain bulleted lists, although tabs are used 
>> instead of traditional formatting. I then converted the file to Doc using 
>> Microsoft Word for Mac. The links and font changes are retained. I am not 
>> sure if the list formatting is changed in the Doc version because there 
>> seems to be no reliable method for obtaining text position information. 
>> VO-F5-F5 only goes so far--especially when I can't get the mouse cursor to 
>> the exact location of the VO cursor. A VoiceOver equivalent of the Jaws 
>> alt-delete would be extremely helpful.
>> As a general question, since TextEdit does not have traditional heading 
>> styles, is there a work around? I decided to use the copy style command and 
>> chose to keep paragraph spacing, font, and ruler position when 
>> defining/saving a heading level 1, so I will see if that works.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Chanelle M. Allen
>> iBUG Mac Instructor
>> chanellem.al...@gmail.com 
>> www.ibugtoday.org 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 08:24, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, of course. That's why I recommended that you use it.
>>> Text edit will open, work in, and save to a number of different file 
>>> formats. .
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 01:28, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> will text edit open a doc file?
>>> 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 You might try editing the document in Text Edit rather than Pages.
 Text Edit will allow you to work in the documents existing format.  Pages 
 will not.
 
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 19:22, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I have a long document that I wrote on a braille note ages ago. when I 
 changed the format to doc, something happened and the first letter of each 
 line is missing or off by itself. it reads fine on a newer braille note so 
 I guess I'm going to have to correct it on my Mac using pages. I don't 
 know much about pages. I opened the document but I can't figure out how to 
 get into the text and locate each letter like I might if I were editing an 
 email. how do I do this?
 I might mention that I'm running Mojave.
 thanks.
 
 Lorie
>>

Re: Text edit

[Herbie Allen]

Maybe somebody will have a better idea, but the only way I can think of is to 
paste the text file into an RTF file. I looked into Save As, but all that does 
is allow you to choose various Text formats.


> On Oct 21, 2020, at 22:37, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I changed the subject line because we are now talking about text edit. how do 
> I do a search and replace in there? I've got all these i circumflexes and i 
> acutes for apostrophes and quotation marks. no idea how that happened but I'm 
> pretty sure I can't fix it in a braille note.
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> The fact that you indicated you didn’t have MS Word on your Mac, is another 
>> reason I suggested that you use TextEdit.
>> 
>> You can convert a .txt file to MS Word format, using TextEdit as follows:
>> 1.  Use the Mac keyboard command CMD + Shift + T, to convert the file from 
>> plain text format to RTF format.
>> 2.  Use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + Shift + S, to do a Save As, and 
>> select either .doc or .docx from the list of available file formats in the 
>> dialog.
>> 
>> HTH. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 16:12, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> you're right, Brad. I'm working on a book so I don't have to worry about 
>> headings so for me, that's a viable solution. I don't even have ms word for 
>> Mac. 
>> 
>> another question, how would I change a txt file into a doc file in Text edit?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Chanelle,
>>> 
>>> I am not sure about the workaround for the Heading issue in TextEdit.  As 
>>> you know, TextEdit is not nearly as full featured as MS Word.  I 
>>> recommended TextEdit because the original poster was attempting to edit a 
>>> .doc file she had created on a braille notetaker.  I recommended TextEdit 
>>> because it would allow her to open and edit, and then save the file, while 
>>> maintaining the .doc format, something that cannot be done when using Pages.
>>> Yes, I know that a Pages file can be exported to one of the MS Word 
>>> formats, but since the file was already in .doc, I thought using TextEdit 
>>> was the simplest solution.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 13:01, Chanelle Allen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I am a bit late to this conversation. My curiosity was piqued though, so I 
>>> decided to investigate. Oddly, opening a Docx file in TextEdit retained the 
>>> font type, style, and size for body text but not headings. The Docx file 
>>> also seems to strip links but retain bulleted lists, although tabs are used 
>>> instead of traditional formatting. I then converted the file to Doc using 
>>> Microsoft Word for Mac. The links and font changes are retained. I am not 
>>> sure if the list formatting is changed in the Doc version because there 
>>> seems to be no reliable method for obtaining text position information. 
>>> VO-F5-F5 only goes so far--especially when I can't get the mouse cursor to 
>>> the exact location of the VO cursor. A VoiceOver equivalent of the Jaws 
>>> alt-delete would be extremely helpful.
>>> As a general question, since TextEdit does not have traditional heading 
>>> styles, is there a work around? I decided to use the copy style command and 
>>> chose to keep paragraph spacing, font, and ruler position when 
>>> defining/saving a heading level 1, so I will see if that works.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Chanelle M. Allen
>>> iBUG Mac Instructor
>>> chanellem.al...@gmail.com 
>>> www.ibugtoday.org 
>>> 
 On Oct 20, 2020, at 08:24, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 Yes, of course. That's why I recommended that you use it.
 Text edit will open, work in, and save to a number of different file 
 formats. .
 
 - Brad -
 
 On Oct 20, 2020, at 01:28, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 will text edit open a doc file?
 
> On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> You might try editing the document in Text Edit rather than Pages.
> Text Edit will allow you to work in the documents existing format.  Pages 
> will not.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Oct 18, 2020, at 19:22, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I have a long document that I wrote on a braille note ages ago. when I 
> changed the format to doc, something happened and the first letter of 
> each line is missing or off by itself. it reads fine on a newer braille 
> note so I guess I'm going to have to correct it on my Mac using pages. I 
> don't know much about pages. I opened the document but I can't figure out 
> how to get into the text and locate each letter like 

Text edit

[Lorie McCloud]

I changed the subject line because we are now talking about text edit. how do I 
do a search and replace in there? I've got all these i circumflexes and i 
acutes for apostrophes and quotation marks. no idea how that happened but I'm 
pretty sure I can't fix it in a braille note.

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The fact that you indicated you didn’t have MS Word on your Mac, is another 
> reason I suggested that you use TextEdit.
> 
> You can convert a .txt file to MS Word format, using TextEdit as follows:
> 1.  Use the Mac keyboard command CMD + Shift + T, to convert the file from 
> plain text format to RTF format.
> 2.  Use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + Shift + S, to do a Save As, and 
> select either .doc or .docx from the list of available file formats in the 
> dialog.
> 
> HTH. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 16:12, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> you're right, Brad. I'm working on a book so I don't have to worry about 
> headings so for me, that's a viable solution. I don't even have ms word for 
> Mac. 
> 
> another question, how would I change a txt file into a doc file in Text edit?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chanelle,
>> 
>> I am not sure about the workaround for the Heading issue in TextEdit.  As 
>> you know, TextEdit is not nearly as full featured as MS Word.  I recommended 
>> TextEdit because the original poster was attempting to edit a .doc file she 
>> had created on a braille notetaker.  I recommended TextEdit because it would 
>> allow her to open and edit, and then save the file, while maintaining the 
>> .doc format, something that cannot be done when using Pages.
>> Yes, I know that a Pages file can be exported to one of the MS Word formats, 
>> but since the file was already in .doc, I thought using TextEdit was the 
>> simplest solution.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 13:01, Chanelle Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am a bit late to this conversation. My curiosity was piqued though, so I 
>> decided to investigate. Oddly, opening a Docx file in TextEdit retained the 
>> font type, style, and size for body text but not headings. The Docx file 
>> also seems to strip links but retain bulleted lists, although tabs are used 
>> instead of traditional formatting. I then converted the file to Doc using 
>> Microsoft Word for Mac. The links and font changes are retained. I am not 
>> sure if the list formatting is changed in the Doc version because there 
>> seems to be no reliable method for obtaining text position information. 
>> VO-F5-F5 only goes so far--especially when I can't get the mouse cursor to 
>> the exact location of the VO cursor. A VoiceOver equivalent of the Jaws 
>> alt-delete would be extremely helpful.
>> As a general question, since TextEdit does not have traditional heading 
>> styles, is there a work around? I decided to use the copy style command and 
>> chose to keep paragraph spacing, font, and ruler position when 
>> defining/saving a heading level 1, so I will see if that works.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Chanelle M. Allen
>> iBUG Mac Instructor
>> chanellem.al...@gmail.com 
>> www.ibugtoday.org 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 08:24, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, of course. That's why I recommended that you use it.
>>> Text edit will open, work in, and save to a number of different file 
>>> formats. .
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 01:28, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> will text edit open a doc file?
>>> 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 You might try editing the document in Text Edit rather than Pages.
 Text Edit will allow you to work in the documents existing format.  Pages 
 will not.
 
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 19:22, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I have a long document that I wrote on a braille note ages ago. when I 
 changed the format to doc, something happened and the first letter of each 
 line is missing or off by itself. it reads fine on a newer braille note so 
 I guess I'm going to have to correct it on my Mac using pages. I don't 
 know much about pages. I opened the document but I can't figure out how to 
 get into the text and locate each letter like I might if I were editing an 
 email. how do I do this?
 I might mention that I'm running Mojave.
 thanks.
 
 Lorie
 
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Re: pages on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

when I have the plain text file open in text edit and I press command-shift-t, 
vo says: "make plain text." it already is. is there a way to find rtf in there?

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The fact that you indicated you didn’t have MS Word on your Mac, is another 
> reason I suggested that you use TextEdit.
> 
> You can convert a .txt file to MS Word format, using TextEdit as follows:
> 1.  Use the Mac keyboard command CMD + Shift + T, to convert the file from 
> plain text format to RTF format.
> 2.  Use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + Shift + S, to do a Save As, and 
> select either .doc or .docx from the list of available file formats in the 
> dialog.
> 
> HTH. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 16:12, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> you're right, Brad. I'm working on a book so I don't have to worry about 
> headings so for me, that's a viable solution. I don't even have ms word for 
> Mac. 
> 
> another question, how would I change a txt file into a doc file in Text edit?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chanelle,
>> 
>> I am not sure about the workaround for the Heading issue in TextEdit.  As 
>> you know, TextEdit is not nearly as full featured as MS Word.  I recommended 
>> TextEdit because the original poster was attempting to edit a .doc file she 
>> had created on a braille notetaker.  I recommended TextEdit because it would 
>> allow her to open and edit, and then save the file, while maintaining the 
>> .doc format, something that cannot be done when using Pages.
>> Yes, I know that a Pages file can be exported to one of the MS Word formats, 
>> but since the file was already in .doc, I thought using TextEdit was the 
>> simplest solution.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 13:01, Chanelle Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am a bit late to this conversation. My curiosity was piqued though, so I 
>> decided to investigate. Oddly, opening a Docx file in TextEdit retained the 
>> font type, style, and size for body text but not headings. The Docx file 
>> also seems to strip links but retain bulleted lists, although tabs are used 
>> instead of traditional formatting. I then converted the file to Doc using 
>> Microsoft Word for Mac. The links and font changes are retained. I am not 
>> sure if the list formatting is changed in the Doc version because there 
>> seems to be no reliable method for obtaining text position information. 
>> VO-F5-F5 only goes so far--especially when I can't get the mouse cursor to 
>> the exact location of the VO cursor. A VoiceOver equivalent of the Jaws 
>> alt-delete would be extremely helpful.
>> As a general question, since TextEdit does not have traditional heading 
>> styles, is there a work around? I decided to use the copy style command and 
>> chose to keep paragraph spacing, font, and ruler position when 
>> defining/saving a heading level 1, so I will see if that works.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Chanelle M. Allen
>> iBUG Mac Instructor
>> chanellem.al...@gmail.com 
>> www.ibugtoday.org 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 08:24, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, of course. That's why I recommended that you use it.
>>> Text edit will open, work in, and save to a number of different file 
>>> formats. .
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 01:28, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> will text edit open a doc file?
>>> 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 You might try editing the document in Text Edit rather than Pages.
 Text Edit will allow you to work in the documents existing format.  Pages 
 will not.
 
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 19:22, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I have a long document that I wrote on a braille note ages ago. when I 
 changed the format to doc, something happened and the first letter of each 
 line is missing or off by itself. it reads fine on a newer braille note so 
 I guess I'm going to have to correct it on my Mac using pages. I don't 
 know much about pages. I opened the document but I can't figure out how to 
 get into the text and locate each letter like I might if I were editing an 
 email. how do I do this?
 I might mention that I'm running Mojave.
 thanks.
 
 Lorie
 
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Re: Navigating by page/discovering page number in Voice Dream Reader?

[Phil Halton]

Not all EPUB books have that information. They can be very very plain, or very 
highly stylized depending on the author. Some books have chapters and headings 
and highlights and page numbers, others have some combination thereof or even 
none of the above. It really does depend on the author. If your navigation 
options don’t show page then that is an indication that this EPUB or whatever 
format book does not have page information embedded.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Oct 21, 2020, at 12:28 PM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kerry, all,
> 
> H, what a puzzle.  I updated to the latest version of Voice Dream
> Reader just in case that was making a difference but still with this
> epub book, no ability to move by page and no information about the
> page I'm on.  In the Navigation Units I have Bookmark, Highlight,
> Heading, Paragraph, Sentence, 60 seconds, 30 seconds and 15 seconds
> but no Page.  And in the info about where I am, I just have a
> percentage and what seem to be estimates of the amount of time already
> read and that remaining.
> 
> I wonder if it's something about this particular book.  Has anyone any
> suggestions of sources of any epub books I could just try out to see
> if they work better?
> 
> Also, has anyone any other suggestions as to how I could go about
> reading an epub on the iphone, being able to copy/paste from the book
> and realise which page I'm on for the sake of referencing in an
> academic document?  Perhaps I could try converting the epub to text
> but I'm not sure whether that would retain the page numbering
> information...
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
> 
>> On 10/20/20, Kerryann Ifill  wrote:
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> I found page on the navigation unit lit right after paragraph, so not sure
>> why yours is being naughty.
>> 
>> As to discovering the page number, if you flick past the length of time
>> remaining in the document you’re currently reading, you will hear a bit
>> about which page you’r eon and how many pages there ar eint he document. Now
>> this does not mean that you will know which page of the book you’re on.
>> What I mean is that your document may have 25 physical pages, but the first
>> 3 may be roman numerals and page 4 is in actuality page 1 if you take my
>> meaning.
>> 
>> Others may have better advice for you onthisone, but hope I’ve started some
>> wheels turning.
>> Kerry
>> 
>>> On 20 Oct 2020, at 9:51 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> In Voice Dream Reader, is it possible to navigate by page and/or find
>>> out what page number I'm currently reading?  I read somewhere that
>>> navigation by page was possible but "page" isn't in the available list
>>> of navigation units when I swipe up and down on the "navigation unit"
>>> button.  This is an epub file.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
>>> 
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RE: Ringtones again

[Paul Sandoval]

Excellent instructions, I think I was missing the check box for manually 
synching music, movies and TV shows.
Thank you.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ringtones again

> Hi Paul, 
I assume you are using MacOS Catalina.  Before you start the syncing process, 
put your ringtomes on your desktop.  This way you have quick access to them.  
Ringtones must be in the M4R format.

Once you have connected your iPhone and are ready to sync it, Select the 
General tab and go to Manually  Manage Music, Movies, and TV Shows. Check the 
box.

Put the cursor on the ringtone and type VO,  (Control-Option comma.) VoiceOver 
will say that the item has been marked for drag. Move the cursor to the Sync 
window for iPhone and anywhere in the window type VO . O(Control Option period. 
Wait a few seconds for the ringtone to sync.  It should then be on your phone.

Janet

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:18 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
>  
> I’m hoping someone will be kind and give me instructions for copying 
> ringtones from my Mac to my iPhone.
> Most things I find on Google say to drag and drop, and this usually gives me 
> difficulty.
> I can get as far as locating the iPhone in the Finder Sidebar. I also have 
> General selected, but where do I paste the tones?
> IOS 14.1 on an iPhone XR
> MacOS 10.15.6 MacBook Air late 2013
> I appreciate any advice you can give. 
> Thank you.
> Paul Sandoval
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Re: Ringtones again

[Janet Ingber]

> Hi Paul, 
I assume you are using MacOS Catalina.  Before you start the syncing process, 
put your ringtomes on your desktop.  This way you have quick access to them.  
Ringtones must be in the M4R format.

Once you have connected your iPhone and are ready to sync it, Select the 
General tab and go to Manually  Manage Music, Movies, and TV Shows. Check the 
box.

Put the cursor on the ringtone and type VO,  (Control-Option comma.) VoiceOver 
will say that the item has been marked for drag. Move the cursor to the Sync 
window for iPhone and anywhere in the window type VO . O(Control Option period. 
Wait a few seconds for the ringtone to sync.  It should then be on your phone.

Janet

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:18 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
>  
> I’m hoping someone will be kind and give me instructions for copying 
> ringtones from my Mac to my iPhone.
> Most things I find on Google say to drag and drop, and this usually gives me 
> difficulty.
> I can get as far as locating the iPhone in the Finder Sidebar. I also have 
> General selected, but where do I paste the tones?
> IOS 14.1 on an iPhone XR
> MacOS 10.15.6 MacBook Air late 2013
> I appreciate any advice you can give. 
> Thank you.
> Paul Sandoval
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Re: pages on a Mac

[Brad Snyder]

The fact that you indicated you didn’t have MS Word on your Mac, is another 
reason I suggested that you use TextEdit.

You can convert a .txt file to MS Word format, using TextEdit as follows:
1.  Use the Mac keyboard command CMD + Shift + T, to convert the file from 
plain text format to RTF format.
2.  Use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + Shift + S, to do a Save As, and select 
either .doc or .docx from the list of available file formats in the dialog.

HTH. 

- Brad -


On Oct 21, 2020, at 16:12, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

you're right, Brad. I'm working on a book so I don't have to worry about 
headings so for me, that's a viable solution. I don't even have ms word for 
Mac. 

another question, how would I change a txt file into a doc file in Text edit?

thanks.
Lorie

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Chanelle,
> 
> I am not sure about the workaround for the Heading issue in TextEdit.  As you 
> know, TextEdit is not nearly as full featured as MS Word.  I recommended 
> TextEdit because the original poster was attempting to edit a .doc file she 
> had created on a braille notetaker.  I recommended TextEdit because it would 
> allow her to open and edit, and then save the file, while maintaining the 
> .doc format, something that cannot be done when using Pages.
> Yes, I know that a Pages file can be exported to one of the MS Word formats, 
> but since the file was already in .doc, I thought using TextEdit was the 
> simplest solution.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 13:01, Chanelle Allen  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am a bit late to this conversation. My curiosity was piqued though, so I 
> decided to investigate. Oddly, opening a Docx file in TextEdit retained the 
> font type, style, and size for body text but not headings. The Docx file also 
> seems to strip links but retain bulleted lists, although tabs are used 
> instead of traditional formatting. I then converted the file to Doc using 
> Microsoft Word for Mac. The links and font changes are retained. I am not 
> sure if the list formatting is changed in the Doc version because there seems 
> to be no reliable method for obtaining text position information. VO-F5-F5 
> only goes so far--especially when I can't get the mouse cursor to the exact 
> location of the VO cursor. A VoiceOver equivalent of the Jaws alt-delete 
> would be extremely helpful.
> As a general question, since TextEdit does not have traditional heading 
> styles, is there a work around? I decided to use the copy style command and 
> chose to keep paragraph spacing, font, and ruler position when 
> defining/saving a heading level 1, so I will see if that works.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chanelle M. Allen
> iBUG Mac Instructor
> chanellem.al...@gmail.com 
> www.ibugtoday.org 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 08:24, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, of course. That's why I recommended that you use it.
>> Text edit will open, work in, and save to a number of different file 
>> formats. .
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 01:28, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> will text edit open a doc file?
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You might try editing the document in Text Edit rather than Pages.
>>> Text Edit will allow you to work in the documents existing format.  Pages 
>>> will not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 19:22, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a long document that I wrote on a braille note ages ago. when I 
>>> changed the format to doc, something happened and the first letter of each 
>>> line is missing or off by itself. it reads fine on a newer braille note so 
>>> I guess I'm going to have to correct it on my Mac using pages. I don't know 
>>> much about pages. I opened the document but I can't figure out how to get 
>>> into the text and locate each letter like I might if I were editing an 
>>> email. how do I do this?
>>> I might mention that I'm running Mojave.
>>> thanks.
>>> 
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Ringtones again

[Paul Sandoval]

Hi list,

I'm hoping someone will be kind and give me instructions for copying ringtones 
from my Mac to my iPhone.
Most things I find on Google say to drag and drop, and this usually gives me 
difficulty.
I can get as far as locating the iPhone in the Finder Sidebar. I also have 
General selected, but where do I paste the tones?
IOS 14.1 on an iPhone XR
MacOS 10.15.6 MacBook Air late 2013
I appreciate any advice you can give.
Thank you.
Paul Sandoval

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Re: pages on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

you're right, Brad. I'm working on a book so I don't have to worry about 
headings so for me, that's a viable solution. I don't even have ms word for 
Mac. 

another question, how would I change a txt file into a doc file in Text edit?

thanks.
Lorie

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chanelle,
> 
> I am not sure about the workaround for the Heading issue in TextEdit.  As you 
> know, TextEdit is not nearly as full featured as MS Word.  I recommended 
> TextEdit because the original poster was attempting to edit a .doc file she 
> had created on a braille notetaker.  I recommended TextEdit because it would 
> allow her to open and edit, and then save the file, while maintaining the 
> .doc format, something that cannot be done when using Pages.
> Yes, I know that a Pages file can be exported to one of the MS Word formats, 
> but since the file was already in .doc, I thought using TextEdit was the 
> simplest solution.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 13:01, Chanelle Allen  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am a bit late to this conversation. My curiosity was piqued though, so I 
> decided to investigate. Oddly, opening a Docx file in TextEdit retained the 
> font type, style, and size for body text but not headings. The Docx file also 
> seems to strip links but retain bulleted lists, although tabs are used 
> instead of traditional formatting. I then converted the file to Doc using 
> Microsoft Word for Mac. The links and font changes are retained. I am not 
> sure if the list formatting is changed in the Doc version because there seems 
> to be no reliable method for obtaining text position information. VO-F5-F5 
> only goes so far--especially when I can't get the mouse cursor to the exact 
> location of the VO cursor. A VoiceOver equivalent of the Jaws alt-delete 
> would be extremely helpful.
> As a general question, since TextEdit does not have traditional heading 
> styles, is there a work around? I decided to use the copy style command and 
> chose to keep paragraph spacing, font, and ruler position when 
> defining/saving a heading level 1, so I will see if that works.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chanelle M. Allen
> iBUG Mac Instructor
> chanellem.al...@gmail.com 
> www.ibugtoday.org 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 08:24, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, of course. That's why I recommended that you use it.
>> Text edit will open, work in, and save to a number of different file 
>> formats. .
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 01:28, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> will text edit open a doc file?
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You might try editing the document in Text Edit rather than Pages.
>>> Text Edit will allow you to work in the documents existing format.  Pages 
>>> will not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 19:22, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a long document that I wrote on a braille note ages ago. when I 
>>> changed the format to doc, something happened and the first letter of each 
>>> line is missing or off by itself. it reads fine on a newer braille note so 
>>> I guess I'm going to have to correct it on my Mac using pages. I don't know 
>>> much about pages. I opened the document but I can't figure out how to get 
>>> into the text and locate each letter like I might if I were editing an 
>>> email. how do I do this?
>>> I might mention that I'm running Mojave.
>>> thanks.
>>> 
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Re: pages on a Mac

[Brad Snyder]

Hi Chanelle,

I am not sure about the workaround for the Heading issue in TextEdit.  As you 
know, TextEdit is not nearly as full featured as MS Word.  I recommended 
TextEdit because the original poster was attempting to edit a .doc file she had 
created on a braille notetaker.  I recommended TextEdit because it would allow 
her to open and edit, and then save the file, while maintaining the .doc 
format, something that cannot be done when using Pages.
Yes, I know that a Pages file can be exported to one of the MS Word formats, 
but since the file was already in .doc, I thought using TextEdit was the 
simplest solution.

- Brad -


On Oct 21, 2020, at 13:01, Chanelle Allen  wrote:

Hello,
I am a bit late to this conversation. My curiosity was piqued though, so I 
decided to investigate. Oddly, opening a Docx file in TextEdit retained the 
font type, style, and size for body text but not headings. The Docx file also 
seems to strip links but retain bulleted lists, although tabs are used instead 
of traditional formatting. I then converted the file to Doc using Microsoft 
Word for Mac. The links and font changes are retained. I am not sure if the 
list formatting is changed in the Doc version because there seems to be no 
reliable method for obtaining text position information. VO-F5-F5 only goes so 
far--especially when I can't get the mouse cursor to the exact location of the 
VO cursor. A VoiceOver equivalent of the Jaws alt-delete would be extremely 
helpful.
As a general question, since TextEdit does not have traditional heading styles, 
is there a work around? I decided to use the copy style command and chose to 
keep paragraph spacing, font, and ruler position when defining/saving a heading 
level 1, so I will see if that works.

Regards,

Chanelle M. Allen
iBUG Mac Instructor
chanellem.al...@gmail.com 
www.ibugtoday.org 

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 08:24, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, of course. That's why I recommended that you use it.
> Text edit will open, work in, and save to a number of different file formats. 
> .
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 20, 2020, at 01:28, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> will text edit open a doc file?
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> You might try editing the document in Text Edit rather than Pages.
>> Text Edit will allow you to work in the documents existing format.  Pages 
>> will not.
>> 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 19:22, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have a long document that I wrote on a braille note ages ago. when I 
>> changed the format to doc, something happened and the first letter of each 
>> line is missing or off by itself. it reads fine on a newer braille note so I 
>> guess I'm going to have to correct it on my Mac using pages. I don't know 
>> much about pages. I opened the document but I can't figure out how to get 
>> into the text and locate each letter like I might if I were editing an 
>> email. how do I do this?
>> I might mention that I'm running Mojave.
>> thanks.
>> 
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: pages on a Mac

[Chanelle Allen]

Hello,
I am a bit late to this conversation. My curiosity was piqued though, so I 
decided to investigate. Oddly, opening a Docx file in TextEdit retained the 
font type, style, and size for body text but not headings. The Docx file also 
seems to strip links but retain bulleted lists, although tabs are used instead 
of traditional formatting. I then converted the file to Doc using Microsoft 
Word for Mac. The links and font changes are retained. I am not sure if the 
list formatting is changed in the Doc version because there seems to be no 
reliable method for obtaining text position information. VO-F5-F5 only goes so 
far--especially when I can't get the mouse cursor to the exact location of the 
VO cursor. A VoiceOver equivalent of the Jaws alt-delete would be extremely 
helpful.
As a general question, since TextEdit does not have traditional heading styles, 
is there a work around? I decided to use the copy style command and chose to 
keep paragraph spacing, font, and ruler position when defining/saving a heading 
level 1, so I will see if that works.

Regards,

Chanelle M. Allen
iBUG Mac Instructor
chanellem.al...@gmail.com
www.ibugtoday.org

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 08:24, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes, of course. That's why I recommended that you use it.
> Text edit will open, work in, and save to a number of different file formats. 
> .
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 20, 2020, at 01:28, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> will text edit open a doc file?
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> You might try editing the document in Text Edit rather than Pages.
>> Text Edit will allow you to work in the documents existing format.  Pages 
>> will not.
>> 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 19:22, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have a long document that I wrote on a braille note ages ago. when I 
>> changed the format to doc, something happened and the first letter of each 
>> line is missing or off by itself. it reads fine on a newer braille note so I 
>> guess I'm going to have to correct it on my Mac using pages. I don't know 
>> much about pages. I opened the document but I can't figure out how to get 
>> into the text and locate each letter like I might if I were editing an 
>> email. how do I do this?
>> I might mention that I'm running Mojave.
>> thanks.
>> 
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: Navigating by page/discovering page number in Voice Dream Reader?

['Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Kerry, all,

H, what a puzzle.  I updated to the latest version of Voice Dream
Reader just in case that was making a difference but still with this
epub book, no ability to move by page and no information about the
page I'm on.  In the Navigation Units I have Bookmark, Highlight,
Heading, Paragraph, Sentence, 60 seconds, 30 seconds and 15 seconds
but no Page.  And in the info about where I am, I just have a
percentage and what seem to be estimates of the amount of time already
read and that remaining.

I wonder if it's something about this particular book.  Has anyone any
suggestions of sources of any epub books I could just try out to see
if they work better?

Also, has anyone any other suggestions as to how I could go about
reading an epub on the iphone, being able to copy/paste from the book
and realise which page I'm on for the sake of referencing in an
academic document?  Perhaps I could try converting the epub to text
but I'm not sure whether that would retain the page numbering
information...

Thanks,
Catherine

On 10/20/20, Kerryann Ifill  wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I found page on the navigation unit lit right after paragraph, so not sure
> why yours is being naughty.
>
> As to discovering the page number, if you flick past the length of time
> remaining in the document you’re currently reading, you will hear a bit
> about which page you’r eon and how many pages there ar eint he document. Now
> this does not mean that you will know which page of the book you’re on.
> What I mean is that your document may have 25 physical pages, but the first
> 3 may be roman numerals and page 4 is in actuality page 1 if you take my
> meaning.
>
> Others may have better advice for you onthisone, but hope I’ve started some
> wheels turning.
> Kerry
>
>> On 20 Oct 2020, at 9:51 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In Voice Dream Reader, is it possible to navigate by page and/or find
>> out what page number I'm currently reading?  I read somewhere that
>> navigation by page was possible but "page" isn't in the available list
>> of navigation units when I swipe up and down on the "navigation unit"
>> button.  This is an epub file.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
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