Re: OS 14.2 won't download & Install on iPad Air 2

[Kevin Gibbs]

Actually, I got a message from Richard Turner in viPhone  suggesting that I 
call Apple Accessibility.  No idea they’d actually answer on the weekend.  They 
couldn’t find a partial download and I had to update it by connecting it to my 
computer, which I had never done in six years.  Anyway, all’s well that ends 
well.  But I’ll keep this bit of instructions in my Tips & Tricks Folder.
Thanks,
Kevin
 
> On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder  wrot
> 
> Try the following:
> 
> Go to Settings > General > iPad Storage
> 
> Here you will find a list of applications taking up storage space on your 
> device.  The list is ranked from largest to smallest.
> If you have a partial download of an OS installer, you should find it near 
> the top of the list.
> If you do find the OS installer on the list, and want to delete it, do the 
> following:
> 1.  Select it and do a 1-finger double tap to open a properties page.
> 2.  at the bottom of the properties page, you will find a button labeled 
> “Delete App”
> 3.  Select and double tap this button to delete the item from your device.
> 
> Another thing to look at is the available storage on your device.  If you 
> don’t have enough storage space for the OS installer, the download will 
> terminate when your available storage runs out.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2020, at 14:20, Kevin Gibbs  > wrote:
> 
> My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it charged 
> to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then says that 
> an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some reading and 
> says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial copy of this OS 
> somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting the download again. 
>  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to do.  I'm assuming that 
> if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be given the message to try 
> downloading and installing it.  the machine works fine.  but I'd like to 
> update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have already exited iCloud and 
> signed back in without any change to the download problem.  I've tried this 
> on several different days to allow for extreme traffic downloading the 
> update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?
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Re: OS 14.2 won't download & Install on iPad Air 2

[Brad Snyder]

Try the following:

Go to Settings > General > iPad Storage

Here you will find a list of applications taking up storage space on your 
device.  The list is ranked from largest to smallest.
If you have a partial download of an OS installer, you should find it near the 
top of the list.
If you do find the OS installer on the list, and want to delete it, do the 
following:
1.  Select it and do a 1-finger double tap to open a properties page.
2.  at the bottom of the properties page, you will find a button labeled 
“Delete App”
3.  Select and double tap this button to delete the item from your device.

Another thing to look at is the available storage on your device.  If you don’t 
have enough storage space for the OS installer, the download will terminate 
when your available storage runs out.

HTH.

- Brad -


On Nov 21, 2020, at 14:20, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:

My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it charged to 
100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then says that an 
error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some reading and says 
that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial copy of this OS 
somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting the download again.  
Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to do.  I'm assuming that if 
the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be given the message to try 
downloading and installing it.  the machine works fine.  but I'd like to update 
the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have already exited iCloud and signed back 
in without any change to the download problem.  I've tried this on several 
different days to allow for extreme traffic downloading the update.  I don't 
think that's the problem.  Ideas?

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Endnote and Pages

[muhammad babar Shahzad]

Hello all,
Is anyone using Endnote referencing software with  Mac pages?
 I am starting to learn pages for my university research project. I would be 
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IOS 14

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if you're texting using your phone there are a whole bunch of thing you can 
include with your actual text. I know what most of them are but I don't know 
what digital touch is. is it anything useful to a vo user?

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Re: major issue with Big Sur install

[Mike Arrigo]

I tried it on my mac mini and the same thing happens, attempting to access the 
list of drives in disk utility will cause voiceover to totally crash. I realize 
that a new release of an operating system may have some bugs but I would 
consider this a major bug, at this point, doing a clean install of Big Sur is 
not possible. I'm not sure if anyone from the applevis site is on this list but 
if so, you may want to add this to the Big Sur blog article.

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> Have sent a report to Apple about this,
> It is a major major bug.
> 
>> On 22 Nov 2020, at 4:30 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After 
>> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing 
>> a new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from 
>> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover 
>> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else 
>> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using 
>> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well.
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Re: major issue with Big Sur install

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
There seems to be some issue with this.
I haven’t tried this myself so I can’t test your issue.
/A

> 21 nov. 2020 kl. 18:30 skrev Mike Arrigo :
> 
> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After 
> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a 
> new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from 
> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover 
> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else 
> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using 
> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well.
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OS 14.2 won't download & Install on iPad Air 2

[Kevin Gibbs]

My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it 
charged to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then 
says that an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some 
reading and says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial 
copy of this OS somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting 
the download again.  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to 
do.  I'm assuming that if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be 
given the message to try downloading and installing it.  the machine works 
fine.  but I'd like to update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have 
already exited iCloud and signed back in without any change to the download 
problem.  I've tried this on several different days to allow for extreme 
traffic downloading the update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?

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Re: major issue with Big Sur install

[Michael Marshall]

Hey,
Have sent a report to Apple about this,
It is a major major bug.

> On 22 Nov 2020, at 4:30 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After 
> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a 
> new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from 
> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover 
> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else 
> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using 
> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well.
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Re: major issue with Big Sur install

[Mike Arrigo]

This was with a 2018 macbook air. I followed the instructions in this article 
to create the install drive, that worked fine and I had no problem booting the 
mac with it.

https://www.macworld.com/article/3566910/how-to-create-a-bootable-macos-big-sur-installer-drive.html


> On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:39 PM, maurice Mines  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have some questions, one how did you create the USB install? There are 
> several machines here that need the upgrade. Two I have not found the issues 
> that people are talking about on my machine. I'm wondering if it really comes 
> down to how current in the hardware? This is a 2020 MacBook Pro. So I'm 
> wondering if that really is the defining issue with installing, And or 
> upgrading to Mac OS Big Sur.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 17:30, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After 
>> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing 
>> a new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from 
>> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover 
>> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else 
>> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using 
>> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well.
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Re: major issue with Big Sur install

[Mike Arrigo]

Not yet, it happened on my macbook air, I want to test it on one of my mac 
minis, you could probably test it by booting your mac in to recovery, I think 
that's the same thing that is used when creating an install on an external 
drive.

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:29 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike. 
> 
> I just did a start upgrade.  I can give this a look at some point, have you 
> contacted apple accessibility about this?  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After 
>> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing 
>> a new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from 
>> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover 
>> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else 
>> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using 
>> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well.
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Re: major issue with Big Sur install

[maurice Mines]

Hi, I have some questions, one how did you create the USB install? There are 
several machines here that need the upgrade. Two I have not found the issues 
that people are talking about on my machine. I'm wondering if it really comes 
down to how current in the hardware? This is a 2020 MacBook Pro. So I'm 
wondering if that really is the defining issue with installing, And or 
upgrading to Mac OS Big Sur.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 17:30, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After 
> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a 
> new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from 
> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover 
> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else 
> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using 
> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well.
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Re: major issue with Big Sur install

[matthew dyer]

Hi Mike. 

I just did a start upgrade.  I can give this a look at some point, have you 
contacted apple accessibility about this?  Thanks.

Matthew



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> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After 
> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a 
> new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from 
> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover 
> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else 
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> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well.
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major issue with Big Sur install

[Mike Arrigo]

I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After booting 
from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a new major 
operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from scratch. Wehn 
trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover crashes making 
this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else can reproduce 
this. I know there have been several other issues with using Voiceover in Big 
Sur recovery as well.

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Re: How I can make Microsoft teams to be accessible with voice over?

[Steve Z.]

Hi Jonathan,
On my more tab I see camera, call, safe and tasks. I can chat with no problem, 
but when I am receiving calls, I can answer them through Skype. Anyways, as it 
seems Teams is not for personal use yet.
Thank you all for your help.
Steve

> 21 Νοε 2020, 1:38 πμ, ο χρήστης «Jonathan Cohn » έγραψε:
> 
> Well, I just tried to login to teams with a personal account from Microsoft 
> and  just got the message my organization is not yet using teams. I had heard 
> some rumors that teams was replacing skype, but payed little attention to 
> this . 
> When you login to Teams on your phone, are you able to do chats and connect 
> to channels? It would be interesting to know what you have available in the 
> more tab at the bottom of the screen. While our department was moving from 
> one exchange system to another, the Teams calendar integration disappeared 
> for a while and then re-appeared once we were using the same domain and 
> password to login to both Teams and Exchange/Outlook mail.
> HTH!
> 
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 15:22, Steve Z.  wrote:
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>> Hi Brad,
>> 
>> Do you mean that those who do not have a Microft365 account are not allowed 
>> to use Microsoft Teams only from our mobile phone? because I’m using it on 
>> my mobile device without a problem.
>> Steve
>> 
>>> 20 Νοε 2020, 5:03 μμ, ο χρήστης «Brad Snyder » έγραψε:
>>> 
>>> 1.  I don’t believe this is a VoiceOver issue with Microsoft Teams.
>>> 
>>> 2.  It is my understanding that a corporate or institutional account is 
>>> required to sign in to Microsoft Teams.  Individual users with or without 
>>> Microsoft365 accounts are excluded from the ability to sign in to Microsoft 
>>> Teams at this time.
>>> Those not signed in to Microsoft Teams can join a Microsoft Teams meeting 
>>> using a link provided by an authorized user with a Microsoft Teams account.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 04:59, Steve Z.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I’ve tried all of these you suggested, but they didn’t seem to work. I am 
>>> wondering if I downloaded the correct app?
>>> When I open the app, it asks me to sign up or sign in. I’m  signing in with 
>>> the account I have on my mobile phone. I see the sign out button, and below 
>>> that, I see ”you are not on teams yet but you can sign up for your 
>>> organization” and has sign up for Teams button. “already signed up check 
>>> your email for a link to start using Microsoft teams”.  there is nothing in 
>>> my mail though.
>>> 
>>> 
 15 Νοε 2020, 7:25 μμ, ο χρήστης «Jonathan Cohn » 
 έγραψε:
 
 I have experienced the issue with notification problems but the 
 notification window will often go away if you  wait. Since I am impatient, 
 what I do when I get stuck in the notification window is to  use the close 
 window command which ends up with me having no Teams windows open and then 
 clicking on teams in the dock to bring up the primary window again.
 
Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
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> 1, Big Sur is fine.  Some have reported that dismissing notifications are 
> hard, but I haven’t ran into this issue.  2nd, you can send from alias’s 
> just fine from IOS, I have been doing it since IOS 10.  What you have to 
> do is, double tap on the from field twice, the 1st time the VoiceOver 
> cursor will jumpp back to the to field, just swipe back to the from 
> field, double tap on the from address again, and then you will get a pop 
> up of choices of email addresses to send from.  Also make sure that your 
> alias is registered under your appleID as a contact point, if not it may 
> not appear in the list of send from emails.  HTH
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>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 9:03 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi Jonathan.
>> 
>> Thanks so much about your explanation with to Teams.  I tried using it 
>> on the Mac some time ago and didn’t like it.  It’s better on the I phone 
>> but still kind of horrible.  I’ll keep your message.
>> 
>> I am not upgrading to Big Sur yet until it has got better.  I use to 
>> upgrade straight away but I think I’ll wait until