Re: Teams.

[Kerryann Ifill]

I’ve found that teams on the iPhone is far more reliable.

On the Mac I find that teams is a resource hog.

Regards
Kerry

> On 29 Nov 2020, at 1:14 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Just a short question.
> The church I have wants us to participate in a meeting on teams.
> Does Teams work best on the ac or the Iphone or Ipad?
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: Wow, folks still use Trilian?

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

Hey Tracy. Jessica is correct. It is available through the Mac App Store for 
free and new versions of it aren't accessible at all. I do have a copy of it if 
you wish to try it out. Just email me privately. It's an old version but it 
still works on Big Sur.

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> On Nov 29, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Those of you that still use this app, could you tell me more? What can it do? 
> Is there a cost? Is it from the Mac App Store?
> 
> I’ve heard about this app since my very first days of Mac OS 10. Mountain 
> Lion was my first in 2011.
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> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: live streams on youtube with a mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I was trying to access a streaming concert.

> On Nov 29, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Makes sense to me.
> The original poster did not say what kind of live stream they were attempting 
> to access.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 29, 2020, at 08:46, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> I join a fair number of live events on YouTube, and my audio is never
> muted when I access YouTube.
> 
> Far more frequently I access before the event has started. If you VO
> left/right around the screen you'll find a countdown clock showing time
> remaining before the event's scheduled start. Perhaps that's the issue?
> 
> I mention that countdown clock also to note that no further action is
> needed. When I see that clock and verify that it's ticking down (by VO
> away and then back), I simply leave my Mac alone. Once the event begins,
> everything works as expected.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> Brad Snyder writes:
>> Since the YouTube link you are accessing is for a live stream, I would 
>> assume that the issue is not that the video is not playing, rather I would 
>> think that the video’s sound is muted.
>> To resolve this issue, try accessing the web rotor menu, using VO + U, then 
>> use left/right arrow keys to the Buttons menu.  Once on the Buttons menu, 
>> use the down/up arrow keys to locate the Unmute button, and then press the 
>> Enter key.  This will exit the web rotor menu, and place focus on the Unmute 
>> button on the web page.  Use VO + Spacebar to activate the button.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 28, 2020, at 12:59, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> when I get a link for a live stream on youtube it doesn't just start playing 
>> when I go up there like a regular youtube video would. what do I do to get 
>> it to start playing?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Wow, folks still use Trilian?

[Jessica Moss]

There’s no cost to use it, and the older versions of the app are still 
extremely accessible; I’m not sure about the latest, sense when I last tried to 
update several months back, the accessibility was broken, and I had to 
downgrade.  It’s a great app to have if you want to manage all your various 
messenger accounts within 1 app, which I used to attempt to do, but now only 
use it for Facebook messenger, sense I stopped using Aim/msn messenger years 
ago, and most of the people I used to talk to on both platforms were also on 
Facebook, so just found it easier to use 1 account.

> On Nov 29, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Those of you that still use this app, could you tell me more? What can it do? 
> Is there a cost? Is it from the Mac App Store?
> 
> I’ve heard about this app since my very first days of Mac OS 10. Mountain 
> Lion was my first in 2011.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Wow, folks still use Trilian?

[Traci Duncan]

Those of you that still use this app, could you tell me more? What can it do? 
Is there a cost? Is it from the Mac App Store?

I’ve heard about this app since my very first days of Mac OS 10. Mountain Lion 
was my first in 2011.

Thanks,
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Fwd: How to take screen recordings on Mac, iOS and Apple TV, Apple Insider, Front Page News

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Found this in  the saved mails I have  saved if I need them later.
Good Luck Andrew!


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> Front Page News
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> AppleInsider - Frontpage News - Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 11:11 AM
> How to take screen recordings on Mac, iOS and Apple TV
> 
> Tips
> Apple has provided ways to record videos of your Mac, iOS, and Apple TV
> screens, but it doesn't make it easy to figure out how to do it. Here's how
> to get it done.
> 
> Someone's clearly forgotten the phrase 'be kind, rewind'.
> Sometimes an image is not quite enough. If you want to show someone how to
> do something on their device -or you want to document a whole process -then
> you need more than a screengrab or screen shot. You need video. Apple has
> you covered for how to do this, and so do other companies.
> Without any third-party tools, you can record a video showing the screen on
> your Mac, your iOS device or even your Apple TV. Then with certain
> third-party tools, you can do that same recording but zoom in on areas, edit
> the video, highlight some areas and blur others.
> None of it is quite as fast as taking the odd instant screen shot, but none
> of it is really time-consuming -unless you want it to be.
> If you choose, you can make an entire YouTube-style video presentation and
> actually, maybe that would be good. Perhaps you've got staff who need to do
> something a certain way for you, maybe nobody stays with your firm long
> enough to do it twice. Or maybe it's a job for you that is crucial, yet it's
> also a once in a year kind of thing.
> 
> The basics on iOS
> There have been ways to film your iPhone or iPad screens before, but from
> iOS 11, Apple made it particularly easy -so long as you know where to look.
> 
> Once you've added it to Control Center, recording is a matter of tapping the
> Record button
> What you need is the Screen Recording feature. It may be named very clearly
> and obviously, and using it is going to be extremely easy, but finding it is
> none of these things.
> This Screen Recording feature is an optional part of Control Center. 
> 
> . Go to Settings on your iPhone, iPod touch or iPad
> 
> . Tap on Control Center
> 
> . Choose Customize Controls
> 
> . From the bottom list, More Controls, find Screen Recording
> 
> . Tap the green plus sign next to it
> 
> This screen recorder will be added to Control Center. So now whenever you
> swipe down from the very top right of your device to call up this Control
> Center, you'll see the Screen Recording button there.
> To record your iOS device's screen, tap that button, and you'll get a
> three-second countdown in the button's icon. From then until you tap the
> button again, anything you do on your device will be recorded.
> When you are done, tap the button again. The resulting video is saved to
> your Camera Roll.
> 
> The basics on Mac
> Press Command-Shift-5 on your Mac. This brings up the toolbar of options for
> taking screenshots, but it also includes video settings. The middle section
> of icons features one button for recording your entire screen and another
> for recording part of it.
> Make your choice, and as soon as you've clicked on either of these buttons,
> you get a new one at the far right of the toolbar, called Record.
> If you've clicked to record only part of the screen, you will also get a
> highlighted box showing you which portion will be recorded. That box has
> grab handles and you can resize or move it anywhere you need. 
> 
> Command-Shift-5 brings up the Mac's screenshot and screen recording options
> Then click Record and that portion, or the entire screen, will be recorded.
> There'll be a Stop icon in your menu bar and that will be recorded along
> with everything else.
> When you click it, the recording stops and you get a brief glimpse of a
> thumbnail-sized image at the bottom right of your Mac's screen. Click on
> that and you can do the same markups and sharing of the video that you could
> with screenshots.
> If you don't do this right away, you can later on find the screen recording
> saved on your desktop.
> You can change where it's saved, and select other settings such as a timer
> countdown before the recording starts, by click on the Options drop down in
> the screen recording toolbar.
> Very nicely, if you later come to record a portion of the screen, macOS will
> start off assuming it's the same portion. 
> That's one big advantage over the older way of doing it, which was to record
> your screen using QuickTime Player. You can still do that -launch the app,
> choose File and New Screen Recording -and it can record the whole or a
> portion of screen just as it ever did, but it doesn't remember the portion.
> Yet QuickTime Player is still good to keep around, because right now it 

Re: How do I do a screen recording on my mac?

[Brad Snyder]

You use zoom to make a video recording. It saves it as an .M4V format file. You 
can then send that file to anyone.  How the video file is made is irrelevant. 
The person receiving the  Video  just get the file.

- Brad -

On Nov 29, 2020, at 11:17, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Brad,

I wouldn’t know where to start with Zoom.  Besides Apple accessibility don’t 
want to talk to me on zoom, they want a screen recording.

Andrew
> On 29 Nov 2020, at 15:07, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> You can do this using Zoom.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 29, 2020, at 08:14, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Apple’s accessibility team are asking me to do a screen recording of the 
> problem with the Greek voice spelling words rather than reading them. How 
> would I do a screen recording for them including audio whilst at the same 
> time changing from application to application in order to illustrate how the 
> Greek voice bug behaves.  Please help as this bug has persisted for over 4 
> years and only now accessibility are actually paying attention to my reports.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Voices on Bigsur

[Jürgen Fleger]

Yes I have. I sent them a screen video. Of course I received the typical 
answer. But at least I received one and I hope they’ll fix it. 

Jürgen


> Am 29.11.2020 um 18:15 schrieb 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> I hope you’ve reported the voice problems on Big Sur.  This side of 
> accessibility has been troubled since Sierra for those of us who use 
> multilingual support.  
> 
> Andrew
>> On 29 Nov 2020, at 17:05, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> in my experience on a german MacBook Air with an M1 chip,
>> voices section in VoiceOver became pretty buggy. I experienced switching 
>> voices in the beginning and I still experience 2 issues:
>> 1. Control doesn’t really stops the voice from speaking. It just stops one 
>> block of text but starts reading again without me doing anything.
>> 2. The german Siri voices for VoiceOver speak quite sluggish and it doesn’t 
>> matter if I increase or decrease speed rate in VO settings. 
>> 
>> Both issues are very annoiing. Let’s hope Apple will fix this rather sooner 
>> than later.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 28.11.2020 um 18:56 schrieb Paul Hopewell :
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I am running Bigsur on my iMac. For reasons I do not understand VoiceOver 
>>> keeps switching voices between my preferred voice (InfoVox iVox Racheal) 
>>> and Daniel. There seems to be the concept of “default system voice” which 
>>> seems to be Daniel and my chosen voice Racheal. How can I use VoiceOver 
>>> utility to set up Racheal so that it is the only voice to be used when 
>>> speaking English UK? The switching between voices seems to happen most in 
>>> Safari.
>>> Many thanks for any tips … Paul Hopewell
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Re: How do I do a screen recording on my mac?

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Brad,

I wouldn’t know where to start with Zoom.  Besides Apple accessibility don’t 
want to talk to me on zoom, they want a screen recording.

Andrew
> On 29 Nov 2020, at 15:07, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> You can do this using Zoom.
> 
> - Brad -
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> On Nov 29, 2020, at 08:14, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> Apple’s accessibility team are asking me to do a screen recording of the 
> problem with the Greek voice spelling words rather than reading them. How 
> would I do a screen recording for them including audio whilst at the same 
> time changing from application to application in order to illustrate how the 
> Greek voice bug behaves.  Please help as this bug has persisted for over 4 
> years and only now accessibility are actually paying attention to my reports.
> 
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Re: Voices on Bigsur

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I hope you’ve reported the voice problems on Big Sur.  This side of 
accessibility has been troubled since Sierra for those of us who use 
multilingual support.  

Andrew
> On 29 Nov 2020, at 17:05, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
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> Hi Paul,
> 
> in my experience on a german MacBook Air with an M1 chip,
> voices section in VoiceOver became pretty buggy. I experienced switching 
> voices in the beginning and I still experience 2 issues:
> 1. Control doesn’t really stops the voice from speaking. It just stops one 
> block of text but starts reading again without me doing anything.
> 2. The german Siri voices for VoiceOver speak quite sluggish and it doesn’t 
> matter if I increase or decrease speed rate in VO settings. 
> 
> Both issues are very annoiing. Let’s hope Apple will fix this rather sooner 
> than later.
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 28.11.2020 um 18:56 schrieb Paul Hopewell :
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am running Bigsur on my iMac. For reasons I do not understand VoiceOver 
>> keeps switching voices between my preferred voice (InfoVox iVox Racheal) and 
>> Daniel. There seems to be the concept of “default system voice” which seems 
>> to be Daniel and my chosen voice Racheal. How can I use VoiceOver utility to 
>> set up Racheal so that it is the only voice to be used when speaking English 
>> UK? The switching between voices seems to happen most in Safari.
>> Many thanks for any tips … Paul Hopewell
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Teams.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Just a short question.
The church I have wants us to participate in a meeting on teams.
Does Teams work best on the ac or the Iphone or Ipad?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Voices on Bigsur

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Paul,

in my experience on a german MacBook Air with an M1 chip,
voices section in VoiceOver became pretty buggy. I experienced switching voices 
in the beginning and I still experience 2 issues:
1. Control doesn’t really stops the voice from speaking. It just stops one 
block of text but starts reading again without me doing anything.
2. The german Siri voices for VoiceOver speak quite sluggish and it doesn’t 
matter if I increase or decrease speed rate in VO settings. 

Both issues are very annoiing. Let’s hope Apple will fix this rather sooner 
than later.

All the best
Jürgen




> Am 28.11.2020 um 18:56 schrieb Paul Hopewell :
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> Hello,
> I am running Bigsur on my iMac. For reasons I do not understand VoiceOver 
> keeps switching voices between my preferred voice (InfoVox iVox Racheal) and 
> Daniel. There seems to be the concept of “default system voice” which seems 
> to be Daniel and my chosen voice Racheal. How can I use VoiceOver utility to 
> set up Racheal so that it is the only voice to be used when speaking English 
> UK? The switching between voices seems to happen most in Safari.
> Many thanks for any tips … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Safari on a Mac

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Jason,

Since you don't include replies, I couldn't tell what you were responding to. 
What exactly does FN right arrow do?
Thanks,
Donna


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> On 11/29/20 2:53 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> woops. glad you caught that. is end the bottom right key in that group of 
>> keys?
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> It depends on your keyboard. On a MacBook, it's FN-right-Arrow.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

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On 11/29/20 2:53 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
woops. glad you caught that. is end the bottom right key in that group 
of keys?



It depends on your keyboard. On a MacBook, it's FN-right-Arrow.

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Re: Safari on a Mac

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OK, I just tried this on a different website, and my results were as follows:
website:  
https://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/08/17/customize-word-keyboard-shortcuts-mac/ 

1.  With focus on the web contents, I used CMD + L, to move focus to the 
address field.
2.  Pressing Escape, returns focus to the web content area.

I am able to repeat this behavior on the following site, which is the site I 
tried before writing my earlier post.  Not sure why my results changed.
https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=62_45&products_id=276
 


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Using Safari 14.0.1; from what I can tell, pressing the Escape key doesn’t 
really do anything.  If the contents of the address bar are highlighted, 
pressing the Escape key, unhighlights the current contents of the address 
field, but focus remains in the address field no matter how many times the 
Escape key is pressed.  One still needs to stop interacting with the Toolbar in 
order to move focus to the web content area, or anywhere else.

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On Nov 29, 2020, at 07:00, Jonathan C. Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Apparentlya, pressing escape a couple of times gets you out of at least the 
address bar. I recently heard about this and have tried successfully a few 
times. So, no strong confidence in this but it appears to work : 

Sent from my iPhone

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> lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
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Re: live streams on youtube with a mac

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Makes sense to me.
The original poster did not say what kind of live stream they were attempting 
to access.

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On Nov 29, 2020, at 08:46, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I join a fair number of live events on YouTube, and my audio is never
muted when I access YouTube.

Far more frequently I access before the event has started. If you VO
left/right around the screen you'll find a countdown clock showing time
remaining before the event's scheduled start. Perhaps that's the issue?

I mention that countdown clock also to note that no further action is
needed. When I see that clock and verify that it's ticking down (by VO
away and then back), I simply leave my Mac alone. Once the event begins,
everything works as expected.

Best,

Janina

Brad Snyder writes:
> Since the YouTube link you are accessing is for a live stream, I would assume 
> that the issue is not that the video is not playing, rather I would think 
> that the video’s sound is muted.
> To resolve this issue, try accessing the web rotor menu, using VO + U, then 
> use left/right arrow keys to the Buttons menu.  Once on the Buttons menu, use 
> the down/up arrow keys to locate the Unmute button, and then press the Enter 
> key.  This will exit the web rotor menu, and place focus on the Unmute button 
> on the web page.  Use VO + Spacebar to activate the button.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2020, at 12:59, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> when I get a link for a live stream on youtube it doesn't just start playing 
> when I go up there like a regular youtube video would. what do I do to get it 
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Re: How do I do a screen recording on my mac?

[Brad Snyder]

You can do this using Zoom.

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On Nov 29, 2020, at 08:14, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

Apple’s accessibility team are asking me to do a screen recording of the 
problem with the Greek voice spelling words rather than reading them. How would 
I do a screen recording for them including audio whilst at the same time 
changing from application to application in order to illustrate how the Greek 
voice bug behaves.  Please help as this bug has persisted for over 4 years and 
only now accessibility are actually paying attention to my reports.

Many thanks

Andrew

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Re: Safari on a Mac

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Using Safari 14.0.1; from what I can tell, pressing the Escape key doesn’t 
really do anything.  If the contents of the address bar are highlighted, 
pressing the Escape key, unhighlights the current contents of the address 
field, but focus remains in the address field no matter how many times the 
Escape key is pressed.  One still needs to stop interacting with the Toolbar in 
order to move focus to the web content area, or anywhere else.

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Apparentlya, pressing escape a couple of times gets you out of at least the 
address bar. I recently heard about this and have tried successfully a few 
times. So, no strong confidence in this but it appears to work : 

Sent from my iPhone

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> lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
> the web content. is there a keystroke for this?
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Re: Safari on a Mac

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Depends on what type of keyboard you are using.
On an extended keyboard, the END key is the middle key, in the bottom row of 
the six keys located above the arrow keys.

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On Nov 29, 2020, at 01:53, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

woops. glad you caught that. is end the bottom right key in that group of keys?

> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
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> BTW - the command to move focus to the web content area is VO + E N D, not VO 
> + the letter N.
> 
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> - Brad -
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> 
> On Nov 28, 2020, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> I know about stopping interacting with the tool bar or side bar but I didn't 
> know about vo-n. that should help. can I hide the sidebar so I don't have to 
> deal with it?
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> I rarely use the Sidebar for anything, but you can get out of the Toolbar by 
>> using VO + Shift + Up Arrow, to stop interacting.  I’m sure the same would 
>> work for the Sidebar.  Then use VO + END to move focus to the web content 
>> area, then use VO + Shift + Down Arrow to interact. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
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>> lately I've been having trouble getting out of the tool bar or side bar into 
>> the web content. is there a keystroke for this?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: live streams on youtube with a mac

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

I join a fair number of live events on YouTube, and my audio is never
muted when I access YouTube.

Far more frequently I access before the event has started. If you VO
left/right around the screen you'll find a countdown clock showing time
remaining before the event's scheduled start. Perhaps that's the issue?

I mention that countdown clock also to note that no further action is
needed. When I see that clock and verify that it's ticking down (by VO
away and then back), I simply leave my Mac alone. Once the event begins,
everything works as expected.

Best,

Janina

Brad Snyder writes:
> Since the YouTube link you are accessing is for a live stream, I would assume 
> that the issue is not that the video is not playing, rather I would think 
> that the video’s sound is muted.
> To resolve this issue, try accessing the web rotor menu, using VO + U, then 
> use left/right arrow keys to the Buttons menu.  Once on the Buttons menu, use 
> the down/up arrow keys to locate the Unmute button, and then press the Enter 
> key.  This will exit the web rotor menu, and place focus on the Unmute button 
> on the web page.  Use VO + Spacebar to activate the button.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2020, at 12:59, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> when I get a link for a live stream on youtube it doesn't just start playing 
> when I go up there like a regular youtube video would. what do I do to get it 
> to start playing?
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> thanks.
> Lorie
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How do I do a screen recording on my mac?

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Apple’s accessibility team are asking me to do a screen recording of the 
problem with the Greek voice spelling words rather than reading them. How would 
I do a screen recording for them including audio whilst at the same time 
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only now accessibility are actually paying attention to my reports.

Many thanks

Andrew

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Re: Safari on a Mac

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Apparentlya, pressing escape a couple of times gets you out of at least the 
address bar. I recently heard about this and have tried successfully a few 
times. So, no strong confidence in this but it appears to work : 

Sent from my iPhone

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