Re: Announcing indentation

[Brandon Olivares]

As far as I know, there is no way. I’m a professional developer and have never 
found a way to get VO to announce the indentation.

Nine times out of ten I really don’t need to, since my editor takes care of 
indentation automatically. But if I do need to check, I just put the cursor at 
the first non-space character of the line, then press down-arrow and see if 
it’s still at the first character. If right arrow announces a space, then I 
know there’s another level of indentation. But again this hasn’t been a big 
issue for me.

Brandon

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Thanks,  I thought this would be easy and I was just missing something.
> Brett
> 
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:09 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok. I wasn’t sure. There has to be a command to do this. I will do some 
>> checking around.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
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>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>> Sadly VO-t doesn’t seem to do anything in Visual Studio Code.
>>> I just tried it here in the message and it only did font size/type/color.
>>> Anyway, I learned a new command.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brett
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
 Does VO-t do it? That is the text attribute command. Not sure if it does 
 indentation though.
 
 
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> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how 
> to get Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
> Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of 
> spaces or tabs at the beginning of a line.
> Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
> I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual 
> studio code in this case), but any idea would be great.
> I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and 
> col but this fails about half the time.
> Any ideas would really be nice.
> Brett
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Re: Announcing indentation

[Brett Lewis]

Thanks,  I thought this would be easy and I was just missing something.
Brett


> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:09 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>  Ok. I wasn’t sure. There has to be a command to do this. I will do some 
> checking around.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>> Sadly VO-t doesn’t seem to do anything in Visual Studio Code.
>> I just tried it here in the message and it only did font size/type/color.
>> Anyway, I learned a new command.
>> Thanks,
>> Brett
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does VO-t do it? That is the text attribute command. Not sure if it does 
>>> indentation though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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>>> 
 On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
 
 Hi All:
 I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how 
 to get Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
 Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of 
 spaces or tabs at the beginning of a line.
 Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
 I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual studio 
 code in this case), but any idea would be great.
 I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and 
 col but this fails about half the time.
 Any ideas would really be nice.
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Re: Touch bar tools / recommendations.

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Jonathan,

You can have the Touch Bar show different functions depending on which 
application you are using. For example when in the Mail app, actions relating 
to the app will be on the Touch Bar.

set this up by going to the  Keyboard preference pane in system Preferences. 
Next, select the Keyboard tab and go  to the pop-up menu called “Touch Bar 
Shows, .”  choose App Controls from the menu. 

You can also simulate function keys by holding down the FN key and pressing a 
number. For example, to simulate F2, use the FN key and the the number 2.  
Another option is to hold down the FN and VO keys and flick left or right on 
the Touch Bar until you hear the name of the function key you want. Then just 
double tap on it.

Hope this helps.

Janet

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Well, my office just bought me a new MacBookPro with the touchbar. I am 
> getting a little used to it, but want to know if there are any addon 
> applications useful to VoiceOver users with TouchBar Macs. I generally, use 
> an external keyboard, since I use numpad commander extensively. But up until 
> yesterday, I just ignored any discussion about the touch bar.
> 
> Thanks!
> Jonathan Cohn 
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Re: Something to Watch Out For in Big Sur

[Steve Matzura]

Yes, my thoughts exactly. Taking it in to a real Apple store isn't 
outside the realm of possibility, but it's a great big 21.5" iMac, and 
since it's going on four-and-a-half years old, the shipping packaging is 
long gone. I'll give Apple a call in the a.m. and start trying to set 
something up to diagnose this problem. I can certainly start with one of 
the reports that gets generated when it happens, a copy of which I saved 
recently. If anyone wants to have a look at it, help yourself. 




On 1/18/2021 4:50 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:


On 18/1/21 4:27 pm, Steve Matzura wrote:
More bad news. Now, even after switching back to a wired mouse, the 
system did it again. I'm starting to think there's a real live 
hardware problem in there.


It's probably time to find a hardware testing utility. You may need to 
contact Apple for testing to be done.





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Re: Something to Watch Out For in Big Sur

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 18/1/21 4:27 pm, Steve Matzura wrote:
More bad news. Now, even after switching back to a wired mouse, the 
system did it again. I'm starting to think there's a real live 
hardware problem in there.


It's probably time to find a hardware testing utility. You may need to 
contact Apple for testing to be done.



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Re: Something to Watch Out For in Big Sur

[Steve Matzura]

More bad news. Now, even after switching back to a wired mouse, the 
system did it again. I'm starting to think there's a real live hardware 
problem in there. I'm also thinking of reverting to Catalina to see if 
things return to normal with the trackball. Any good ideas on how to do 
that? Would a manual re-install do it, or would I have to wipe the boot 
disk and do it that way, which means I'd wind up deleting some key 
stuff, like Mail settings and other third-party applications that have 
been installed, like Acrobat, Dropbox, etc.?



On 1/18/2021 1:45 PM, John Panarese wrote:

   Wow. That is interesting. I am having inconsistency issues with a standard 
Apple wireless keyboard. This is one of the older original ones, and it some 
times stops working and I need to reconnect it. I have not, though, encountered 
a device causing that kind of an error.


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On Jan 18, 2021, at 10:04 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

After upgrading a 2016 iMac 21.5" i5 machine from Catalina to Big Sur, an 
interesting problem has reared its quite ugly head. When a Kensington Expert Mouse 
trackball is connected via Bluetooth and the system is shut down in the normal way, 
it goes almost all the way down to black, then an error window appears which says 
something went wrong, there's a long long report displayed, and a couple buttons 
which can send said report to Apple or not. Apple recommended a re-install of Big 
Sur, which I did yesterday. The problem seemed to go away, but it's back today. When 
I changed from using the trackball back to using the standard USB wired mouse, the 
problem doesn't happen. I have a third option--the Kensington Expert Mouse can 
connect not only to Bluetooth, but also to one of those Logitech wireless receivers 
that work on the same principle as Bluetooth but are technically not Bluetooth. I'm 
going to try this next and report back. Has anyone had or heard of a problem with a 
Bluetooth pointing device on Big Sur?

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Re: Announcing indentation

[John Panarese]

  Ok. I wasn’t sure. There has to be a command to do this. I will do some 
checking around.


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> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> Sadly VO-t doesn’t seem to do anything in Visual Studio Code.
> I just tried it here in the message and it only did font size/type/color.
> Anyway, I learned a new command.
> Thanks,
> Brett
> 
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>  Does VO-t do it? That is the text attribute command. Not sure if it does 
>> indentation though.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
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>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All:
>>> I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how to 
>>> get Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
>>> Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of 
>>> spaces or tabs at the beginning of a line.
>>> Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
>>> I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual studio 
>>> code in this case), but any idea would be great.
>>> I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and 
>>> col but this fails about half the time.
>>> Any ideas would really be nice.
>>> Brett
>>> 
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Re: issues but my MacBook Pro 2020 Intel addition, and power management?

[Brad Snyder]

Try getting rid of Kaspersky Internet security.
My gut says that is your problem.  These types of applications are resource 
hogs that are always running in the background. 

- Brad -


On Jan 18, 2021, at 13:44, maurice mines  wrote:

Hello, everyone if you're in the United States happy Martin Luther King Jr. day.


I have an interesting situation here. I have a MacBook Pro 2020 Intel addition 
that simply refuses to go to's if I put it to sleep the battery discharges 
rapidly. Computer gets warm. My big question is since the shipping boxes now 
arrived should I go without the use of this machine for up to two weeks, 
because of the pandemic and shipping and other transportation delays or is this 
purely a software issue that if anyone knows what software might potentially 
cause this issue certainly enlighten me on the subject. I am running Kaspersky 
Internet security. Could this potentially overburdened the processor. I vaguely 
remember that there were issues discussed on this list in the past about the 
MacBook Air not completely going to sleep. This looks like it but remember this 
is that this is a 13 inch MacBook Pro. Are they similar?


If none of this is true my other concern is this, do I have a situation where 
Big Sur at least in my case got the code written for the M1 processor when this 
is an Intel processor in other words what I'm getting at is is it being pushed 
too hard?


Final question I guess bottom line does someone think that this issue can be 
fixed say in the next two weeks. Because I'm in the middle of dealing with 
employment people who are helping me to find future employment. I'm also deaf 
blind. Meaning I use this computer heavily for communication with email list 
such as this one in addition I have an additional disability that's called a 
written expression disorder. Basically this means dyslexia of writing. So as 
you may guess I'm dictating this message to the computer. Being without the 
computer for two weeks certainly put an extreme damper on the things that I 
need to be doing. So I want to explore every option before putting this machine 
in the box and shipping it back to Apple. This is because I've been taught that 
all Apple stores at this point are shuttered because of the ubiquitous word 
here, praise, the pandemic. That's why it has come to this.


All I'm told is to just backup my data to ship it to them should this become 
necessary. It is my intention to wipe this machine completely. Having survived 
computer security classes I already know that common sense even should say wipe 
the drive send it to them with no personal data on the machine yes I do have 
backup hardware and software. So the data should be fine. This includes my 
virtual copy of Windows and its accompanying software. Since it is a virtual 
machine it's backup is of course stored in an encrypted backup disk. Any good 
suggestions, would be greatly appreciated. Because of everything that's going 
on this week with me. I'm not shipping this until Thursday if it becomes 
necessary.


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the computer. That means there may be errors in the text above. If there's 
something that you don't understand, and or need clarification on? Please reach 
out to me to ask me what my original intent was? I look forward to if it 
becomes necessary helping to clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from 
the text above.


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meaning it is me my views, positions in our statements do not reflect those of 
the national Federation of the blind, or the national Federation of the blind 
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Re: Announcing indentation

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Thanks for the suggestion.
Sadly VO-t doesn’t seem to do anything in Visual Studio Code.
I just tried it here in the message and it only did font size/type/color.
Anyway, I learned a new command.
Thanks,
Brett


> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   Does VO-t do it? That is the text attribute command. Not sure if it does 
> indentation though.
> 
> 
> Take Care
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>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All:
>> I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how to 
>> get Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
>> Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of 
>> spaces or tabs at the beginning of a line.
>> Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
>> I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual studio 
>> code in this case), but any idea would be great.
>> I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and col 
>> but this fails about half the time.
>> Any ideas would really be nice.
>> Brett
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issues but my MacBook Pro 2020 Intel addition, and power management?

[maurice mines]

Hello, everyone if you're in the United States happy Martin Luther King 
Jr. day.



I have an interesting situation here. I have a MacBook Pro 2020 Intel 
addition that simply refuses to go to's if I put it to sleep the battery 
discharges rapidly. Computer gets warm. My big question is since the 
shipping boxes now arrived should I go without the use of this machine 
for up to two weeks, because of the pandemic and shipping and other 
transportation delays or is this purely a software issue that if anyone 
knows what software might potentially cause this issue certainly 
enlighten me on the subject. I am running Kaspersky Internet security. 
Could this potentially overburdened the processor. I vaguely remember 
that there were issues discussed on this list in the past about the 
MacBook Air not completely going to sleep. This looks like it but 
remember this is that this is a 13 inch MacBook Pro. Are they similar?



If none of this is true my other concern is this, do I have a situation 
where Big Sur at least in my case got the code written for the M1 
processor when this is an Intel processor in other words what I'm 
getting at is is it being pushed too hard?



Final question I guess bottom line does someone think that this issue 
can be fixed say in the next two weeks. Because I'm in the middle of 
dealing with employment people who are helping me to find future 
employment. I'm also deaf blind. Meaning I use this computer heavily for 
communication with email list such as this one in addition I have an 
additional disability that's called a written expression disorder. 
Basically this means dyslexia of writing. So as you may guess I'm 
dictating this message to the computer. Being without the computer for 
two weeks certainly put an extreme damper on the things that I need to 
be doing. So I want to explore every option before putting this machine 
in the box and shipping it back to Apple. This is because I've been 
taught that all Apple stores at this point are shuttered because of the 
ubiquitous word here, praise, the pandemic. That's why it has come to this.



All I'm told is to just backup my data to ship it to them should this 
become necessary. It is my intention to wipe this machine completely. 
Having survived computer security classes I already know that common 
sense even should say wipe the drive send it to them with no personal 
data on the machine yes I do have backup hardware and software. So the 
data should be fine. This includes my virtual copy of Windows and its 
accompanying software. Since it is a virtual machine it's backup is of 
course stored in an encrypted backup disk. Any good suggestions, would 
be greatly appreciated. Because of everything that's going on this week 
with me. I'm not shipping this until Thursday if it becomes necessary.



Please note as I've stated that the text of this message has been 
dictated to the computer. That means there may be errors in the text 
above. If there's something that you don't understand, and or need 
clarification on? Please reach out to me to ask me what my original 
intent was? I look forward to if it becomes necessary helping to clear 
up any misunderstandings that may arise from the text above.



Note number two please note that my comments above are of a personal 
nature meaning it is me my views, positions in our statements do not 
reflect those of the national Federation of the blind, or the national 
Federation of the blind deaf blind division.


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Re: Announcing indentation

[John Panarese]

   Does VO-t do it? That is the text attribute command. Not sure if it does 
indentation though.


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> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how to 
> get Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
> Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of 
> spaces or tabs at the beginning of a line.
> Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
> I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual studio 
> code in this case), but any idea would be great.
> I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and col 
> but this fails about half the time.
> Any ideas would really be nice.
> Brett
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Announcing indentation

[Brett Lewis]

Hi All:
I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how to get 
Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of spaces 
or tabs at the beginning of a line.
Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual studio code 
in this case), but any idea would be great.
I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and col 
but this fails about half the time.
Any ideas would really be nice.
Brett

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Re: vo speaking a different language

[Lorie McCloud]

interesting. I haven't been back up there to see if i fixed that problem or 
not. 

do you know how to change that setting in IOS? sometimes when I'm on facebook 
using my phone vo will start speaking in another language and I have no idea 
what it's on about.

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I was reading a blog this morning, that seemed to use the same plugin. IIt 
> wanted me to push option-1 for screen reader mode or option-0 to shut it up. 
> SO I hit option-0 and found that Safari could find no links and no headings. 
> So, I pushed option-1 and links and headers appeared. My accessibility 
> testing machine is currently in limbo, otherwise I might have pulled that 
> site apart a bit and tried to figure out what was going on. 
> Jonathan
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 18:40, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> well, I've had a lot of trouble with that page in standard mode or I 
>> wouldjn't have bothered with screen reader mode.
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> ∥That is weird. Also, I generally find that screen reader modes on web 
>>> pages are less cessable than the standard page.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 5, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 Sounds like your VoiceOver Voice is set to Automatically Select based on 
 Language.
 You can change this by going to, VO + CMD + Shift, and pressing any arrow 
 key, to open the Voice adjustment menu.  Then use left or right arrow to 
 select Voice, then down arrow to change voice selection.
 
 HTH.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Jan 5, 2021, at 14:35, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I just had the strangest experience ever! on the site for my apartment 
 complex I went up to submit a service request. it said "press option 1 to 
 enter screen reader mode." so I did that whereupon vo began to speak 
 French or at least that's what it sounds like. I could understand if it 
 was Spanish. this is Texas after all all the links were in that language. 
 it read other things in the Alex voice. any idea what would make that 
 happen? I didn't see any language choices although I suppose there could 
 have been some.
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
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Re: macos big sur and installing apps from the app store

[John Panarese]

   Yeah, it’s kind of weird how it seems to work. You have to VO-space on the 
result you want and then there are a couple of levels of interaction involved. 
Ultimately, I tab to the button that either contains the price or the Get 
button to install the app.

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> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:36 PM, William Windels  
> wrote:
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> Hello,
> I just wanted to install apps on my new macbook air m1 from the app store. I 
> typed the app that I want install but from then, It was difficult to go from 
> the search result in the app store to the step to download the app.
> IS this more complex with big sur or is it just another way of working?
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Re: Something to Watch Out For in Big Sur

[John Panarese]

  Wow. That is interesting. I am having inconsistency issues with a standard 
Apple wireless keyboard. This is one of the older original ones, and it some 
times stops working and I need to reconnect it. I have not, though, encountered 
a device causing that kind of an error. 


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> On Jan 18, 2021, at 10:04 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
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> After upgrading a 2016 iMac 21.5" i5 machine from Catalina to Big Sur, an 
> interesting problem has reared its quite ugly head. When a Kensington Expert 
> Mouse trackball is connected via Bluetooth and the system is shut down in the 
> normal way, it goes almost all the way down to black, then an error window 
> appears which says something went wrong, there's a long long report 
> displayed, and a couple buttons which can send said report to Apple or not. 
> Apple recommended a re-install of Big Sur, which I did yesterday. The problem 
> seemed to go away, but it's back today. When I changed from using the 
> trackball back to using the standard USB wired mouse, the problem doesn't 
> happen. I have a third option--the Kensington Expert Mouse can connect not 
> only to Bluetooth, but also to one of those Logitech wireless receivers that 
> work on the same principle as Bluetooth but are technically not Bluetooth. 
> I'm going to try this next and report back. Has anyone had or heard of a 
> problem with a Bluetooth pointing device on Big Sur?
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macos big sur and installing apps from the app store

[William Windels]

Hello,
I just wanted to install apps on my new macbook air m1 from the app store. I 
typed the app that I want install but from then, It was difficult to go from 
the search result in the app store to the step to download the app.
IS this more complex with big sur or is it just another way of working?

Thx for any response, William

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Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

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Touch bar tools / recommendations.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, my office just bought me a new MacBookPro with the touchbar. I am getting 
a little used to it, but want to know if there are any addon applications 
useful to VoiceOver users with TouchBar Macs. I generally, use an external 
keyboard, since I use numpad commander extensively. But up until yesterday, I 
just ignored any discussion about the touch bar.

Thanks!
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Re: vo speaking a different language

[Jonathan Cohn]

I was reading a blog this morning, that seemed to use the same plugin. IIt 
wanted me to push option-1 for screen reader mode or option-0 to shut it up. SO 
I hit option-0 and found that Safari could find no links and no headings. So, I 
pushed option-1 and links and headers appeared. My accessibility testing 
machine is currently in limbo, otherwise I might have pulled that site apart a 
bit and tried to figure out what was going on. 
Jonathan

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 5, 2021, at 18:40, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> well, I've had a lot of trouble with that page in standard mode or I 
> wouldjn't have bothered with screen reader mode.
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> ∥That is weird. Also, I generally find that screen reader modes on web pages 
>> are less cessable than the standard page.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds like your VoiceOver Voice is set to Automatically Select based on 
>>> Language.
>>> You can change this by going to, VO + CMD + Shift, and pressing any arrow 
>>> key, to open the Voice adjustment menu.  Then use left or right arrow to 
>>> select Voice, then down arrow to change voice selection.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 14:35, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just had the strangest experience ever! on the site for my apartment 
>>> complex I went up to submit a service request. it said "press option 1 to 
>>> enter screen reader mode." so I did that whereupon vo began to speak French 
>>> or at least that's what it sounds like. I could understand if it was 
>>> Spanish. this is Texas after all all the links were in that language. it 
>>> read other things in the Alex voice. any idea what would make that happen? 
>>> I didn't see any language choices although I suppose there could have been 
>>> some.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Something to Watch Out For in Big Sur

[Steve Matzura]

After upgrading a 2016 iMac 21.5" i5 machine from Catalina to Big Sur, 
an interesting problem has reared its quite ugly head. When a Kensington 
Expert Mouse trackball is connected via Bluetooth and the system is shut 
down in the normal way, it goes almost all the way down to black, then 
an error window appears which says something went wrong, there's a long 
long report displayed, and a couple buttons which can send said report 
to Apple or not. Apple recommended a re-install of Big Sur, which I did 
yesterday. The problem seemed to go away, but it's back today. When I 
changed from using the trackball back to using the standard USB wired 
mouse, the problem doesn't happen. I have a third option--the Kensington 
Expert Mouse can connect not only to Bluetooth, but also to one of those 
Logitech wireless receivers that work on the same principle as Bluetooth 
but are technically not Bluetooth. I'm going to try this next and report 
back. Has anyone had or heard of a problem with a Bluetooth pointing 
device on Big Sur?


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