Re: Web sites maxing resources in Safari.

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Jessica and All,

I just tried this site in Safari (with JavaScript enabled) on an M1 MacBook Air 
(running Big Sur 11.2) and it came up immediately and seemed to work fine. I 
did not explore the site but did quickly tab through some links and read a bit 
of info etc. I wonder if my being a .1 version behind may have anything to do 
with it? I’d be surprised but you never know. :)

Just to add something to this thread that hasn’t been mentioned so far;

“busy’ messages in apps may not actually be the app itself being unresponsive 
or using excessive resources. Even though Voiceover may announce that the app 
itself is busy, it may actually be Voiceover which is busy attempting to be 
able to display information from the app.

Obviously, this is not always the case and it would definitely be nice to be 
able to tell the difference easily with VO.

I bring this up because occasionally when VO says that an app is busy, it is 
absolutely possible to interact with the app and its UI using the mouse.

Activity Monitor may be helpful in these cases to tell which process may 
actually be using more resources.

Hope this might help diagnose the issue. So sorry the site / Safari / VO is 
being a pain!

Cheers!

Cara


> On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Have you considered using Microsoft Edge? I find it a lot more responsive 
> than Safari.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer
> 
> On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Jessica Moss  > wrote:
> 
> This is actually the company I work with that I’ve been posting about off and 
> on, and I relayed back to my supervisor that one of you mentioned disabling 
> javascript.  However, he made me aware that unfortunately, disabling 
> javascript will make some of the web sites we’re currently working with 
> enaccessible, so at the moment, the only workaround I’ve been able to find 
> with this for now, is to open it in Chrome, which seems to load it with no 
> serious issues, aside from a few things I’ve clicked on that for some reason 
> cause Voiceover to reboot.
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2021, at 11:44 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Your only solution will be to take it up with Apple Accessibility directly.
>> 
>> On 19/2/21 2:01 pm, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>> The following url:
>>> 
>>> https://omnicommander.com 
>>> 
>>> Is currently maxing all the resources on my Mac, and this is after having 
>>> to do a fresh install of Big Sur, due to what I thought the issue was 
>>> (Citrix Server not uninstalling correctly and burying itself in multiple 
>>> places on my computer to the point where removing it was too much of a 
>>> pain.)
>>>   However, even after erasing my main drive, reinstalling Big Sur, and 
>>> trying to launch the site again, which we’re currently revamping, and I’m 
>>> needing to test for accessibility, all it’s doing on my end is causing my 
>>> fan to run harder than it should, and Safari to constantly display busy 
>>> messages.  Could someone please let me know if this is happening to anyone 
>>> else, and what I may be able to do at this point to fix it?
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apps library on IOS

[Patrick Ford]

Hi,
Is there any way to remove the apps library  returning to the older format of 
apps on the iPhone? 
Thanks.
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Re: apps library on IOS

[Herbie Allen]

Not sure, but you don’t have to use it at all. I don’t. It’s on a separate page 
and I have all my apps in my own folders.
Herbie

> On Feb 22, 2021, at 12:42, Patrick Ford  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Is there any way to remove the apps library  returning to the older format of 
> apps on the iPhone? 
> Thanks.
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apps library again

[Patrick Ford]

Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way the 
apps are listed  i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick 

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Re: apps library on IOS

[Patrick Ford]

oh ok. It’s strange, but I had gone back to the phone to check it out again and 
the apps library has disappeared and all is arranged as it was earlier - I will 
have to check  to see about that separate page you mentioned. Thanks.
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> On Feb 22, 2021, at 2:05 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> Not sure, but you don’t have to use it at all. I don’t. It’s on a separate 
> page and I have all my apps in my own folders.
> Herbie
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 12:42, Patrick Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Is there any way to remove the apps library  returning to the older format 
>> of apps on the iPhone? 
>> Thanks.
>> Patrick 
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Re: Web sites maxing resources in Safari.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I think Vo has a buffer that buffers info which meeds to be frebuffered 
sometimes.
Not sure though but its interesting that the M1 Mac can use the site with no 
issue.
This is why I am about to get one.
They’re a bit steep though.
/A

> 22 feb. 2021 kl. 19:00 skrev Cara Quinn :
> 
> Hi Jessica and All,
> 
> I just tried this site in Safari (with JavaScript enabled) on an M1 MacBook 
> Air (running Big Sur 11.2) and it came up immediately and seemed to work 
> fine. I did not explore the site but did quickly tab through some links and 
> read a bit of info etc. I wonder if my being a .1 version behind may have 
> anything to do with it? I’d be surprised but you never know. :)
> 
> Just to add something to this thread that hasn’t been mentioned so far;
> 
> “busy’ messages in apps may not actually be the app itself being unresponsive 
> or using excessive resources. Even though Voiceover may announce that the app 
> itself is busy, it may actually be Voiceover which is busy attempting to be 
> able to display information from the app.
> 
> Obviously, this is not always the case and it would definitely be nice to be 
> able to tell the difference easily with VO.
> 
> I bring this up because occasionally when VO says that an app is busy, it is 
> absolutely possible to interact with the app and its UI using the mouse.
> 
> Activity Monitor may be helpful in these cases to tell which process may 
> actually be using more resources.
> 
> Hope this might help diagnose the issue. So sorry the site / Safari / VO is 
> being a pain!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Dave Carlson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Have you considered using Microsoft Edge? I find it a lot more responsive 
>> than Safari.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Jessica Moss > > wrote:
>> 
>> This is actually the company I work with that I’ve been posting about off 
>> and on, and I relayed back to my supervisor that one of you mentioned 
>> disabling javascript.  However, he made me aware that unfortunately, 
>> disabling javascript will make some of the web sites we’re currently working 
>> with enaccessible, so at the moment, the only workaround I’ve been able to 
>> find with this for now, is to open it in Chrome, which seems to load it with 
>> no serious issues, aside from a few things I’ve clicked on that for some 
>> reason cause Voiceover to reboot.
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2021, at 11:44 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your only solution will be to take it up with Apple Accessibility directly.
>>> 
>>> On 19/2/21 2:01 pm, Jessica Moss wrote:
 The following url:
 
 https://omnicommander.com 
 
 Is currently maxing all the resources on my Mac, and this is after having 
 to do a fresh install of Big Sur, due to what I thought the issue was 
 (Citrix Server not uninstalling correctly and burying itself in multiple 
 places on my computer to the point where removing it was too much of a 
 pain.)
   However, even after erasing my main drive, reinstalling Big Sur, and 
 trying to launch the site again, which we’re currently revamping, and I’m 
 needing to test for accessibility, all it’s doing on my end is causing my 
 fan to run harder than it should, and Safari to constantly display busy 
 messages.  Could someone please let me know if this is happening to anyone 
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Re: apps library again

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Patrick,

It isn’t there to stay. Once you are in the App library, go to the app switcher 
and close out all open apps. That should bring you back to the screen where the 
App library is, then on your phone do what ever command or gesture brings you 
back to the Home Screen. You should then see the standard layout of the home 
screen.

HTH.

Eileen

From: Patrick Ford 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: apps library again

Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way the 
apps are listed  i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick 

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Re: apps library again

[Patrick Ford]

Thank you Eileen. Yes this did occur - I wasn’t sure how it reversed itself but 
with your explanation I understand.
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> On Feb 22, 2021, at 3:08 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Patrick,
>  
> It isn’t there to stay. Once you are in the App library, go to the app 
> switcher and close out all open apps. That should bring you back to the 
> screen where the App library is, then on your phone do what ever command or 
> gesture brings you back to the Home Screen. You should then see the standard 
> layout of the home screen.
>  
> HTH.
>  
> Eileen
>  
> From: Patrick Ford <>
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:50 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: apps library again
>  
> Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way 
> the apps are listed  i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick 
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Re: apps library again

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Just in case it was one of those things you got into by accident, it happens 
when you flick your way down on the page numbers that are given just above your 
doc. When you flick one last time, past the last/highest number of pages, bingo 
you put yourself into the App library.

Eileen

From: Patrick Ford 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 4:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: apps library again

Thank you Eileen. Yes this did occur - I wasn’t sure how it reversed itself but 
with your explanation I understand. 
Thanks so much.
Patrick 

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  On Feb 22, 2021, at 3:08 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Patrick,

  It isn’t there to stay. Once you are in the App library, go to the app 
switcher and close out all open apps. That should bring you back to the screen 
where the App library is, then on your phone do what ever command or gesture 
brings you back to the Home Screen. You should then see the standard layout of 
the home screen.

  HTH.

  Eileen

  From: Patrick Ford 
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:50 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: apps library again

  Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way 
the apps are listed  i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick 

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Re: apps library again

[Patrick Ford]

oh ok that is how I did it - all of a sudden, I was informed that the apps 
library was now here with only an ok button - well thank you for explaining 
….appreciate it.
patrick 
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> On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:03 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
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> Just in case it was one of those things you got into by accident, it happens 
> when you flick your way down on the page numbers that are given just above 
> your doc. When you flick one last time, past the last/highest number of 
> pages, bingo you put yourself into the App library.
>  
> Eileen
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> From: Patrick Ford <>
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> Thank you Eileen. Yes this did occur - I wasn’t sure how it reversed itself 
> but with your explanation I understand.
> Thanks so much.
> Patrick 
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>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 3:08 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
>> > wrote:
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>> Patrick,
>>  
>> It isn’t there to stay. Once you are in the App library, go to the app 
>> switcher and close out all open apps. That should bring you back to the 
>> screen where the App library is, then on your phone do what ever command or 
>> gesture brings you back to the Home Screen. You should then see the standard 
>> layout of the home screen.
>>  
>> HTH.
>>  
>> Eileen
>>  
>> From: Patrick Ford <>
>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:50 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
>> Subject: apps library again
>>  
>> Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way 
>> the apps are listed  i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick 
>> 
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Re: Web sites maxing resources in Safari.

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I’ve read positive comments about the performance of the M1 machines, which is why I’m considering buying one (or a successor) later this year. My late 2013-model MacBook Pro is rather slow nowadays, due no doubt to the demands of a current operating system and applications. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Anders Holmberg Date: Monday, February 22, 2021 at 15:01To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Web sites maxing resources in Safari.Hi!I think Vo has a buffer that buffers info which meeds to be frebuffered sometimes.Not sure though but its interesting that the M1 Mac can use the site with no issue.This is why I am about to get one.They’re a bit steep though./A22 feb. 2021 kl. 19:00 skrev Cara Quinn : Hi Jessica and All, I just tried this site in Safari (with _javascript_ enabled) on an M1 MacBook Air (running Big Sur 11.2) and it came up immediately and seemed to work fine. I did not explore the site but did quickly tab through some links and read a bit of info etc. I wonder if my being a .1 version behind may have anything to do with it? I’d be surprised but you never know. :) Just to add something to this thread that hasn’t been mentioned so far; “busy’ messages in apps may not actually be the app itself being unresponsive or using excessive resources. Even though Voiceover may announce that the app itself is busy, it may actually be Voiceover which is busy attempting to be able to display information from the app. Obviously, this is not always the case and it would definitely be nice to be able to tell the difference easily with VO. I bring this up because occasionally when VO says that an app is busy, it is absolutely possible to interact with the app and its UI using the mouse. Activity Monitor may be helpful in these cases to tell which process may actually be using more resources. Hope this might help diagnose the issue. So sorry the site / Safari / VO is being a pain! Cheers! Cara  On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote: Have you considered using Microsoft Edge? I find it a lot more responsive than Safari. Dave CarlsonOregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote: This is actually the company I work with that I’ve been posting about off and on, and I relayed back to my supervisor that one of you mentioned disabling _javascript_.  However, he made me aware that unfortunately, disabling _javascript_ will make some of the web sites we’re currently working with enaccessible, so at the moment, the only workaround I’ve been able to find with this for now, is to open it in Chrome, which seems to load it with no serious issues, aside from a few things I’ve clicked on that for some reason cause Voiceover to reboot.On Feb 21, 2021, at 11:44 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  wrote: Your only solution will be to take it up with Apple Accessibility directly.On 19/2/21 2:01 pm, Jessica Moss wrote:The following url:  https://omnicommander.com Is currently maxing all the resources on my Mac, and this is after having to do a fresh install of Big Sur, due to what I thought the issue was (Citrix Server not uninstalling correctly and burying itself in multiple places on my computer to the point where removing it was too much of a pain.)  However, even after erasing my main drive, reinstalling Big Sur, and trying to launch the site again, which we’re currently revamping, and I’m needing to test for accessibility, all it’s doing on my end is causing my fan to run harder than it should, and Safari to constantly display busy messages.  Could someone please let me know if this is happening to anyone else, and what I may be able to do at this point to fix it?-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C63FF8E4-AA84-497C-92B2-D7A5E00AFECD%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact t

Re: VoiceOver friendly invoice app?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Jonathan,

Your evaluation would be very cool! :)
Much appreciated!
Thanks
Chuck

On Feb 21, 2021, at 2:44 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> Hello,
> I talked to the folks that make AccountEdge about a year ago to try and 
> convince them to make their App accessible. You should be able to download a 
> sample of it. If you are not comfortable doing this, I could try and do an 
> evaluation again.
> Jonathan
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 16:30, CHUCK REICHEL  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brad,
>> Thanks.
>> That looks promising.
>> Is there anything out there that can be purchased out right?
>> Subscriptions just keep adding up and as you know become "larger than they 
>> should"! :)
>> It would be nice if the application can communicate with "turbo tax" as My 
>> Wife uses this for us now.
>> Any full book keeping  apps that are voiceOver friendly meeting these 
>> criteria above?
>> Since this is for my recording studio LLC I know I will have to pay a $ or 
>> 2! LOL
>> It takes money to make money! ;)
>> Thanks again
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
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>>> Check out Fresh Books.  It is web-based, and fully accessible.  It has a 
>>> trial period for new users.
>>> You can find it at:  https://www.freshbooks.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 10:26, CHUCK REICHEL  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> I need a VoiceOver friendly invoice app?
>>> Something easy to use.
>>> and can give Recording clients a invoice, and the app will chronologically 
>>> number each invoice for every transaction?
>>> Any thoughts out there?
>>> Thanks
>>> Chuck
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Multi-Device Bluetooth Keyboard with Touch ID

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi All,

I’ve been Google searching, but I’m not getting a narrow list of keyboards to 
review—perhaps what I’m looking for doesn’t exist.

I want a bluetooth keyboard that I can use with multiple devices, but that also 
has a Touch ID or finger print sensor.  I have the Logetec K760 which I love, 
but I would like it to have a Touch ID sensor so I don’t have to go to my 
computer.

Does such an animal exist?  Does anybody have one and have any comments?

Thx,
Jeff

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Name Confusion?

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

VO-d takes us to dock folder, right? Is Dock and Document folder are two
different folders?

If yes, do we have a shortcut to reach Document folder like Command-Shift-H
to open home folder?

If yes, what is that shortcut, please?

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Re: Name Confusion?

[Brad Snyder]

The Dock is not a folder.  The Dock is a row of application and/or folder alias 
located, usually along the bottom edge of your Mac’s desktop.
The Documents folder is either a local or iCloud folder that can be accessed 
using CMD + Shift + O.

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On Feb 22, 2021, at 19:58, Fazil  wrote:

Hi, Group.
VO-d takes us to dock folder, right? Is Dock and Document folder are two 
different folders?
If yes, do we have a shortcut to reach Document folder like Command-Shift-H to 
open home folder?
If yes, what is that shortcut, please?
Thanks!
 
 
 

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Opening Drive/Folder in ListView?

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

Just a quick question,

How can I open drives or folders when I am in List View, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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Re: Opening Drive/Folder in ListView?

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You can open drives or folders in List view, or any view, using CMD + O, or CMD 
+ Down Arrow.

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Hi, Group.

Just a quick question,

How can I open drives or folders when I am in List View, please?

Thanks!

 

 


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What to do about a hot Mac when it is sleeping? Please read below

[Maurice Mines]

Hello everyone, here’s the issue that I am experiencing, there are several 
issues. One whenever I put my MacBook Pro 2020, the Intel version. To sleep if 
Bluetooth is still on the computer gets hot overtime and the battery drain if 
it’s not plugged in it’s quite high for some unknown reason.

Issue number two is regarding the audio on the computer. One for some odd 
reason the computer will not correctly identify a headphone plug-in to the 3.5 
headphone jack. The other issue comes when I changed hearing aids to Bluetooth 
hearing aids for some reason voiceover becomes occasionally quite choppy and I 
wind up at times with pieces of words even syllables of words but no really 
words that aren’t anywhere close to being pieces like I said this happens 
occasionally. Sometimes exactly 5 minutes apart.

The other variant of this, is if I have more than one program open and/or more 
than one window open. Then the speech becomes particularly choppy. New 
paragraph finally I tried an experiment on a zoom call if I turn voiceover kids 
oh then I get clear on interrupted audio from the sound card but this is only 
win voiceover it’s not running.

Does anyone have any good ideas as to what could really be causing all of these 
issues. For the record, I am running Mack OS 11.2.3. I hope this helps question 
New paragraph disclaimer time. Please be aware that I am dictating this to my 
phone. So some of it may not have turned out the way that it should have turned 
out because of Siri this also means that there may be potentially inappropriate 
words in here. Should this happen please reach out to me and let me know if 
something really is off but the errors are not intended.

Disclaimer number two please be aware that my comments, statements, or 
positions if any that I’ve taken, and or pronouncement that I have made if any, 
that aren’t involved in the text above. Certainly do not reflect the views 
positions policies and or the views of any board chapter or individual within 
the national Federation of the blind nor does this mean anything as to the 
board of the national Federation of the blind up line division which I do serve 
on. The views aren’t strictly mine. I am the only one responsible for them I am 
the only one that I have written them here. Thank you all very much for reading 
this. I look forward to reading your suggestions and or comments

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Re: What to do about a hot Mac when it is sleeping? Please read below

[Herbie Allen]

Why not turn off Bluetooth and plug in your computer when putting it to sleep?


Herbie

> On Feb 22, 2021, at 23:55, Maurice Mines  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone, here’s the issue that I am experiencing, there are several 
> issues. One whenever I put my MacBook Pro 2020, the Intel version. To sleep 
> if Bluetooth is still on the computer gets hot overtime and the battery drain 
> if it’s not plugged in it’s quite high for some unknown reason.
> 
> Issue number two is regarding the audio on the computer. One for some odd 
> reason the computer will not correctly identify a headphone plug-in to the 
> 3.5 headphone jack. The other issue comes when I changed hearing aids to 
> Bluetooth hearing aids for some reason voiceover becomes occasionally quite 
> choppy and I wind up at times with pieces of words even syllables of words 
> but no really words that aren’t anywhere close to being pieces like I said 
> this happens occasionally. Sometimes exactly 5 minutes apart.
> 
> The other variant of this, is if I have more than one program open and/or 
> more than one window open. Then the speech becomes particularly choppy. New 
> paragraph finally I tried an experiment on a zoom call if I turn voiceover 
> kids oh then I get clear on interrupted audio from the sound card but this is 
> only win voiceover it’s not running.
> 
> Does anyone have any good ideas as to what could really be causing all of 
> these issues. For the record, I am running Mack OS 11.2.3. I hope this helps 
> question New paragraph disclaimer time. Please be aware that I am dictating 
> this to my phone. So some of it may not have turned out the way that it 
> should have turned out because of Siri this also means that there may be 
> potentially inappropriate words in here. Should this happen please reach out 
> to me and let me know if something really is off but the errors are not 
> intended.
> 
> Disclaimer number two please be aware that my comments, statements, or 
> positions if any that I’ve taken, and or pronouncement that I have made if 
> any, that aren’t involved in the text above. Certainly do not reflect the 
> views positions policies and or the views of any board chapter or individual 
> within the national Federation of the blind nor does this mean anything as to 
> the board of the national Federation of the blind up line division which I do 
> serve on. The views aren’t strictly mine. I am the only one responsible for 
> them I am the only one that I have written them here. Thank you all very much 
> for reading this. I look forward to reading your suggestions and or comments
> 
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