RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)

[Rebecca Skipper]

I hope that the next iPhone has Face ID and Touch IDA.

 

From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 1:07 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)

 

Hey Dave. I'm finally able to send a reply to your message from last week 
because I've reactivated my Apple One subscription. Anyway, the reason I don't 
like Face ID is because it seems like it's too complicated. Especially seeing 
as how I use Apple Pay every day. From what I've heard, you have to double 
press the side button, aim the phone at your face which I'm not good at doing 
at all, then aiming the phone at the debit machine to finalize the purchase. 
With touch ID, all I have to do is aim my phone at the machine and use touch 
ID. Now granted, I could use my Apple Watch which is what I've been doing ever 
since I got it, but what if I have to leave my watch at home because it's 
charging? That would mean that I would have to struggle with Face ID which I 
have no patience to learn how to use. So until Apple forces me to upgrade, I'm 
going to stick with my iPhone SE 2020.

 

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On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Shawn,

What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your previous 
iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using Touch ID 
or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s actually your 
reason for your iPhone preference?

 

Dave Carlson

Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer

 

On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as long 
as I can because I really don't like Face ID.

 

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On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad.
The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do 
not think it has 5G.
However, those features are not a priority for me.
I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone 
Mini 12 and 13 are out.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)

Hi.

I must say I am very happy with mine too.
When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using IOS 
11 on it. lol

It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it.
I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external 
speaker. The sound quality is quite good.

Hope this helps.

Take care,
Tali

On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com   
mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I love the iPhone SE 2020.
It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8.
It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery.
It is the best iPhone I've owned.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)

Hello,

I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020).
My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor.  Would you be happy to 
share your views/opinions on this iphone with me?

Andrew

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Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

Hey Dave. I'm finally able to send a reply to your message from last week 
because I've reactivated my Apple One subscription. Anyway, the reason I don't 
like Face ID is because it seems like it's too complicated. Especially seeing 
as how I use Apple Pay every day. From what I've heard, you have to double 
press the side button, aim the phone at your face which I'm not good at doing 
at all, then aiming the phone at the debit machine to finalize the purchase. 
With touch ID, all I have to do is aim my phone at the machine and use touch 
ID. Now granted, I could use my Apple Watch which is what I've been doing ever 
since I got it, but what if I have to leave my watch at home because it's 
charging? That would mean that I would have to struggle with Face ID which I 
have no patience to learn how to use. So until Apple forces me to upgrade, I'm 
going to stick with my iPhone SE 2020.

Regards,
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> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Shawn,
> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your 
> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than using 
> Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button that’s 
> actually your reason for your iPhone preference?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
> 
> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as 
> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID.
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
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> 
>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, > > > > wrote:
>> 
>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad.
>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I 
>> do not think it has 5G.
>> However, those features are not a priority for me.
>> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone 
>> Mini 12 and 13 are out.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > > On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky
>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I must say I am very happy with mine too.
>> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using 
>> IOS 11 on it. lol
>> 
>> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it.
>> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external 
>> speaker. The sound quality is quite good.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Tali
>> 
>> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com  
>> mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> I love the iPhone SE 2020.
>>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8.
>>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery.
>>> It is the best iPhone I've owned.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM
>>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> >
>>> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020).
>>> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor.  Would you be happy to 
>>> share your views/opinions on this iphone with me?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

[Mike Arrigo]

I'm having the same issue but it really started for me when upgrading to safari 
15, I find myself using Chrome and Firefox more and more now.

> On Sep 26, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> I haven’t updated yet but heard from a number of blind users of this issue. 
> So it seems to be an issue of this update.
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
>> Am 26.09.2021 um 18:11 schrieb 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Since upgrading to the most recent 11.6 on my macbook pro late 2014, Safari 
>> has become sluggish.  I’ve cleared the cashes, I keep my mac free from junk. 
>>  Has anyone else experienced this, and is there anything else I can do?  Or 
>> is it a matter of my mac being old?  It has 16 GB RAM, 512 hard drive and is 
>> the fastest I could buy at that time.
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: sim card

[Lorie McCloud]

they do have more expensive plans if you need more gig but if you're already 
using Spectrum you get unlimited talk and text plus 1 gig of data per month for 
$14. except for once a year, I rarely need any more than that.

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 2:21 PM,   wrote:
> 
> H, think the phone plan they are talking about for $14 a month is 
> probably the landline offering to use at home, unless I am missing something. 
> I think the Spectrum Mobile service is around $45 a month for the unlimited, 
> and maybe about $14 per gig used per month if you don’t want unlimited. So, 
> if one was going to use more than 3 gigs per month or so, the unlimited is 
> likely the better deal. I heard they do let you switch that any time, but it 
> is probably a pretty good deal using Verizon’s towers.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Rebecca Skipper
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 6:40 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: sim card
>  
> Does Spectrum offer a virtual Sim Card?
> I had to get a sim Card sent to me once I provided my eimi number or 
> something like that.
> I have Spectrum Internet so can get their phone plan for $14 a month.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:56 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Re: sim card
>  
> that's pretty cool. I just signed up with Spectrum.
>  
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hello,
>> Not sure if you mentioned your original carrier, but I know for certain that 
>> T-Mobile has an app in the app store that enables the Virtual SIM to use the 
>> T-Mobile network as a demo. I read about this a few weeks back in tidbits. 
>> com's weekly newsletter. 
>>  
>> heading level 1 T-Mobile’s Network Test Drive Puts 5G on Your iPhone’s eSIM
>> https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Well, I guess it was from early July based on that URL. 
>>  
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think 
>>> Spectrum has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll 
>>> ask.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper >>> > wrote:
 
 I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
 virtual Sim Cards.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  >>> > On Behalf Of Sarah Massengale
 Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Subject: Re: sim card
 
 Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a 
 delicate little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it 
 can be really tricky.
 
 
 
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea 
> how to do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Sorting Order Of File List When Uploading Through Safari, Big Sir

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

When in the upload dialog, press cmd-2 to be in list view, then you should be 
able to notice column headers.  VO-space on whichever you wish it sorted by.

Later…


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Apple Professional Learning Specialist
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m trying to upload some pictures using Safari. When the file picker dialog 
> comes up, the files are sorted in alphabetical order. Is there any way to 
> change the sort order, like you can do in Finder, so that the list is sorted 
> by something like date added? I tried sorting the pictures folder this way 
> using Finder, but when I got back to the picker dialog the list was still 
> alphabetical. Any ideas?
> 
> Pete De Vasto
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Sorting Order Of File List When Uploading Through Safari, Big Sir

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi,

I’m trying to upload some pictures using Safari. When the file picker dialog 
comes up, the files are sorted in alphabetical order. Is there any way to 
change the sort order, like you can do in Finder, so that the list is sorted by 
something like date added? I tried sorting the pictures folder this way using 
Finder, but when I got back to the picker dialog the list was still 
alphabetical. Any ideas?

Pete De Vasto

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Re: Autochange Language?

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Auto-switch language has been hit&miss for a long time and I’ve been reporting 
it for over 5 years now since High Sierra was released.  Auto-switch language 
works for some languages for me but it certainly doesn’t work for Greek.  I’m 
pulling my hair out with Apple Accessibility.  The trouble is very few of us 
report this problem as the majority don’t use multiple languages.  For those of 
us who do, I fear I’m beginning to consider switching back to Windows although 
I love my mac.

Andrew

> On 28 Sep 2021, at 17:44, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> My iPhone8 autoswitches to any supported languages when it encounters the 
> text of that language. Should I expect the same behavior from MacBookPro2017?
> If yes, what should I do to have Macbook ? autoswitch the language, please? I 
> think I checked the box that talks about autoswitching language in VoiceOver 
> Utility but I am not sure.
>  
> Thanks!
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RE: sim card

[Rebecca Skipper]

The $14.00 plan I have is the 1GB line which is enough for me.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of br...@hostany.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 3:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: sim card

 

H, think the phone plan they are talking about for $14 a month is probably 
the landline offering to use at home, unless I am missing something. I think 
the Spectrum Mobile service is around $45 a month for the unlimited, and maybe 
about $14 per gig used per month if you don’t want unlimited. So, if one was 
going to use more than 3 gigs per month or so, the unlimited is likely the 
better deal. I heard they do let you switch that any time, but it is probably a 
pretty good deal using Verizon’s towers.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Rebecca Skipper
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 6:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: sim card

 

Does Spectrum offer a virtual Sim Card?

I had to get a sim Card sent to me once I provided my eimi number or something 
like that.

I have Spectrum Internet so can get their phone plan for $14 a month.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:56 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: sim card

 

that's pretty cool. I just signed up with Spectrum.

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

Not sure if you mentioned your original carrier, but I know for certain that 
T-Mobile has an app in the app store that enables the Virtual SIM to use the 
T-Mobile network as a demo. I read about this a few weeks back in tidbits. 
 com's weekly newsletter. 

 

heading level 1 T-Mobile’s Network Test Drive Puts 5G on Your iPhone’s eSIM

https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/

 

Well, I guess it was from early July based on that URL. 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think Spectrum 
has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll ask.

On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
virtual Sim Cards.


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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: sim card

Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a delicate 
little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it can be really 
tricky.



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has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea how to 
do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.

thanks.
Lorie

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RE: sim card

[brent]

H, think the phone plan they are talking about for $14 a month is probably 
the landline offering to use at home, unless I am missing something. I think 
the Spectrum Mobile service is around $45 a month for the unlimited, and maybe 
about $14 per gig used per month if you don’t want unlimited. So, if one was 
going to use more than 3 gigs per month or so, the unlimited is likely the 
better deal. I heard they do let you switch that any time, but it is probably a 
pretty good deal using Verizon’s towers.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Rebecca Skipper
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 6:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: sim card

 

Does Spectrum offer a virtual Sim Card?

I had to get a sim Card sent to me once I provided my eimi number or something 
like that.

I have Spectrum Internet so can get their phone plan for $14 a month.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:56 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: sim card

 

that's pretty cool. I just signed up with Spectrum.

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

Not sure if you mentioned your original carrier, but I know for certain that 
T-Mobile has an app in the app store that enables the Virtual SIM to use the 
T-Mobile network as a demo. I read about this a few weeks back in tidbits. 
 com's weekly newsletter. 

 

heading level 1 T-Mobile’s Network Test Drive Puts 5G on Your iPhone’s eSIM

https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/

 

Well, I guess it was from early July based on that URL. 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

 

On Sep 27, 2021, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think Spectrum 
has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll ask.



On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
virtual Sim Cards.


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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: sim card

Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a delicate 
little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it can be really 
tricky.




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has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea how to 
do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.

thanks.
Lorie

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RE: sim card

[brent]

I've done it myself whenever I got new phones, but yes, they are quite small 
now these days. The tricky part is figuring out which way the thing goes in 
without dropping it.


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Subject: Re: sim card

Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a delicate 
little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it can be really 
tricky.


> On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea how 
> to do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.
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RE: sim card

[Rebecca Skipper]

IT is a good deal.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 3:10 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: sim card

 

I don't think they do offer a virtual sim card. they're sending one to me. I 
got the same deal you did. couldn't pass it up.





On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:40 AM, Rebecca Skipper mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Does Spectrum offer a virtual Sim Card?

I had to get a sim Card sent to me once I provided my eimi number or something 
like that.

I have Spectrum Internet so can get their phone plan for $14 a month.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   
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Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:56 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: sim card

 

that's pretty cool. I just signed up with Spectrum.






On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

Not sure if you mentioned your original carrier, but I know for certain that 
T-Mobile has an app in the app store that enables the Virtual SIM to use the 
T-Mobile network as a demo. I read about this a few weeks back in tidbits. 
 com's weekly newsletter. 

 

heading level 1 T-Mobile’s Network Test Drive Puts 5G on Your iPhone’s eSIM

https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/

 

Well, I guess it was from early July based on that URL. 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn









On Sep 27, 2021, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think Spectrum 
has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll ask.





On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
virtual Sim Cards.


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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: sim card

Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a delicate 
little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it can be really 
tricky.






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thanks.
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Re: sim card

[Lorie McCloud]

I don't think they do offer a virtual sim card. they're sending one to me. I 
got the same deal you did. couldn't pass it up.

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:40 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Does Spectrum offer a virtual Sim Card?
> I had to get a sim Card sent to me once I provided my eimi number or 
> something like that.
> I have Spectrum Internet so can get their phone plan for $14 a month.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:56 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Re: sim card
>  
> that's pretty cool. I just signed up with Spectrum.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hello,
>> Not sure if you mentioned your original carrier, but I know for certain that 
>> T-Mobile has an app in the app store that enables the Virtual SIM to use the 
>> T-Mobile network as a demo. I read about this a few weeks back in tidbits. 
>> com's weekly newsletter. 
>>  
>> heading level 1 T-Mobile’s Network Test Drive Puts 5G on Your iPhone’s eSIM
>> https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Well, I guess it was from early July based on that URL. 
>>  
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think 
>>> Spectrum has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll 
>>> ask.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper >>> > wrote:
 
 I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
 virtual Sim Cards.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  >>> > On Behalf Of Sarah Massengale
 Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Subject: Re: sim card
 
 Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a 
 delicate little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it 
 can be really tricky.
 
 
 
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Re: English Keyboard Disappeared?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Try System Preferences, Keyboard, then select the Input Sources tab.  The 
keyboards you have installed should be listed there, as well as an Add button 
that you can add any keyboard you wish.

Later…


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> On Sep 28, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> Yesterday, I took my MacBookPro2017 to Genius Bar in the nearby Apple Store 
> because I want Arabic Keyboard. He added  three Arabic keyboard so I can use 
> whichever I like. He told me that I could switch the keyboard on the fly by 
> hitting ctrl-space. So, the problem is now that ctrl-space changes keyboard 
> with each press but it brings up three keyboards of Arabic only. It does not 
> bring the English keyboard. How can I get back the English Keyboard or add it 
> again, please?
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RE: English Keyboard Disappeared?

[Fazil]

Thanks much, Jonathan.

I followed your instructions last week but could not finish it. The Genius bar 
told me that Arabic keyboars are already there. I said yes I tried to add it 
but could not finish it. So he fixed it and told me how to switch the keyboard.

Now, I guess, I can not do anything because English keyboard is not available.

Thanks!

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 10:24 AM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: English Keyboard Disappeared?

 

Here is some text I sent you last week via this list. I guess you didn't read 
it.

 

 

Oh, and by the way 

1. Open System Preferences 

2. Open the view menu and select keyboard 

3.  Press the Input Sources button 

4. Press the add button 

5. Select "Arabic" from the list that comes up.

6. Check the checkbox to display language input in the menu bar.

7. There will now be a bunch of options discussing Left to Right and Right to 
Left text, you will probably need to change the shortcuts listed here but I 
don't understand them. I would think that just selecting the appropriate 
language input from the language menu would be all that you need.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







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Hi, Group.

Yesterday, I took my MacBookPro2017 to Genius Bar in the nearby Apple Store 
because I want Arabic Keyboard. He added  three Arabic keyboard so I can use 
whichever I like. He told me that I could switch the keyboard on the fly by 
hitting ctrl-space. So, the problem is now that ctrl-space changes keyboard 
with each press but it brings up three keyboards of Arabic only. It does not 
bring the English keyboard. How can I get back the English Keyboard or add it 
again, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: English Keyboard Disappeared?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Here is some text I sent you last week via this list. I guess you didn't read 
it.


Oh, and by the way 
1. Open System Preferences 
2. Open the view menu and select keyboard 
3.  Press the Input Sources button 
4. Press the add button 
5. Select "Arabic" from the list that comes up.
6. Check the checkbox to display language input in the menu bar.
7. There will now be a bunch of options discussing Left to Right and Right to 
Left text, you will probably need to change the shortcuts listed here but I 
don't understand them. I would think that just selecting the appropriate 
language input from the language menu would be all that you need.



Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Sep 28, 2021, at 12:35, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> Yesterday, I took my MacBookPro2017 to Genius Bar in the nearby Apple Store 
> because I want Arabic Keyboard. He added  three Arabic keyboard so I can use 
> whichever I like. He told me that I could switch the keyboard on the fly by 
> hitting ctrl-space. So, the problem is now that ctrl-space changes keyboard 
> with each press but it brings up three keyboards of Arabic only. It does not 
> bring the English keyboard. How can I get back the English Keyboard or add it 
> again, please?
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Autochange Language?

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

My iPhone8 autoswitches to any supported languages when it encounters the
text of that language. Should I expect the same behavior from
MacBookPro2017?

If yes, what should I do to have Macbook ? autoswitch the language, please?
I think I checked the box that talks about autoswitching language in
VoiceOver Utility but I am not sure.

 

Thanks!

 

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English Keyboard Disappeared?

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

Yesterday, I took my MacBookPro2017 to Genius Bar in the nearby Apple Store
because I want Arabic Keyboard. He added  three Arabic keyboard so I can use
whichever I like. He told me that I could switch the keyboard on the fly by
hitting ctrl-space. So, the problem is now that ctrl-space changes keyboard
with each press but it brings up three keyboards of Arabic only. It does not
bring the English keyboard. How can I get back the English Keyboard or add
it again, please?

Thanks!

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Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Donna,

I hope that you are simply mis-typing.  The modifier is not the ctrl key, it is 
the FN key.  I tested in a Pages document and it worked for me with the 
FN-down, albeit not with perfect consistency, but relatively consistent.

• interact with the page.
• use VO navigation to read something.
• press FN-down a time or two and see if you hear a page number reference.  
Sometimes, it just says down, others it will say the page number it lands on.
• use VO arrows to look around where you are.  It should be on that page.
• Again, if you do not hold down the VO keys, you will immediately be brought 
directly back to the first page you were in.

HTH.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 10:03 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m having the same experience as Ron.  In a Pages document, I can’t get CTRL 
> + up or down arrow to do anything at all.  CTRL + left and right does take me 
> to a different place in the document, but it is inconsistent at best.  My 
> document was four pages long.  Sometimes CTRL Down arrow took me to the top 
> of page four.  Sometimes to the top of page three.  Similarly, sometimes CTRL 
> Left would take me to the top of the document, that is, the beginning of page 
> one.  But other times it would take me to page two.  And then sometimes it 
> did nothing at all.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2021, at 10:45 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> tim, thenks for the info, I’ll give that a try…
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Sep 2021, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There are certain areas, such as HTML areas within a browser or Mail, that 
>>> do not support the Page UP/Down action.  This is likely due to the fact 
>>> that these are not actually pages like in a word processing document or a 
>>> PDF document.  In a PDF for example, interact with the first page, press 
>>> FN-down a few times and you should hear VO announce “down” as it progresses 
>>> down the pages of the document.  Once it has moved down, use VO navigation 
>>> to start reading, do not simply use arrow navigation as you’ll find that 
>>> the cursor remains where it was to begin with.  This process is definitely 
>>> not foolproof, but works most times when in a scenario where page markers 
>>> are present.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:55 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I can’t execute page up or down with fn+up arrow or down arrow.  It just 
 doesn’t work.  I’ve not found the way to move by page ever. :)
 
 Andrew
 
> On 28 Sep 2021, at 12:06, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, 
> however when trying to go page up or down  get a error sound.  I hvbe 
> tried on different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know 
> what the [roblem is   
> 
> 
>> On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI.
> 
>> naries  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page 
>> Up/Down and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice.  Press 
>> VO-k to engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys.  You will 
>> hear left, right up and down.  Hold down the FN key, the key in the 
>> lower left of the keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO.  You 
>> will hear Page Up, Page Down, Home and End along with the action it 
>> performs.  Note that it is moving the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard 
>> cursor.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam 
>>> folder.
>>> Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am 
>>> using a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get 
>>> the Page Up/Down action.  Use FN plus left and right to achieve the 
>>> Home/End actions.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Profe

Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I’m having the same experience as Ron.  In a Pages document, I can’t get CTRL + 
up or down arrow to do anything at all.  CTRL + left and right does take me to 
a different place in the document, but it is inconsistent at best.  My document 
was four pages long.  Sometimes CTRL Down arrow took me to the top of page 
four.  Sometimes to the top of page three.  Similarly, sometimes CTRL Left 
would take me to the top of the document, that is, the beginning of page one.  
But other times it would take me to page two.  And then sometimes it did 
nothing at all.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 28, 2021, at 10:45 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> tim, thenks for the info, I’ll give that a try…
> 
> 
>> On 28 Sep 2021, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are certain areas, such as HTML areas within a browser or Mail, that 
>> do not support the Page UP/Down action.  This is likely due to the fact that 
>> these are not actually pages like in a word processing document or a PDF 
>> document.  In a PDF for example, interact with the first page, press FN-down 
>> a few times and you should hear VO announce “down” as it progresses down the 
>> pages of the document.  Once it has moved down, use VO navigation to start 
>> reading, do not simply use arrow navigation as you’ll find that the cursor 
>> remains where it was to begin with.  This process is definitely not 
>> foolproof, but works most times when in a scenario where page markers are 
>> present.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:55 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can’t execute page up or down with fn+up arrow or down arrow.  It just 
>>> doesn’t work.  I’ve not found the way to move by page ever. :)
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
 On 28 Sep 2021, at 12:06, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, 
 however when trying to go page up or down  get a error sound.  I hvbe 
 tried on different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know 
 what the [roblem is   
 
 
> On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI.
 
> naries  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page 
> Up/Down and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice.  Press 
> VO-k to engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys.  You will 
> hear left, right up and down.  Hold down the FN key, the key in the lower 
> left of the keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO.  You will 
> hear Page Up, Page Down, Home and End along with the action it performs.  
> Note that it is moving the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard cursor.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam 
>> folder.
>> Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am 
>> using a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again.
>> 
>> On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get 
>> the Page Up/Down action.  Use FN plus left and right to achieve the 
>> Home/End actions.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which 
>>> doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts?
>>> Regards Ron.
>>> 
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Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...

['Ron' via MacVisionaries]

tim, thenks for the info, I’ll give that a try…


> On 28 Sep 2021, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There are certain areas, such as HTML areas within a browser or Mail, that do 
> not support the Page UP/Down action.  This is likely due to the fact that 
> these are not actually pages like in a word processing document or a PDF 
> document.  In a PDF for example, interact with the first page, press FN-down 
> a few times and you should hear VO announce “down” as it progresses down the 
> pages of the document.  Once it has moved down, use VO navigation to start 
> reading, do not simply use arrow navigation as you’ll find that the cursor 
> remains where it was to begin with.  This process is definitely not 
> foolproof, but works most times when in a scenario where page markers are 
> present.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:55 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I can’t execute page up or down with fn+up arrow or down arrow.  It just 
>> doesn’t work.  I’ve not found the way to move by page ever. :)
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>>> On 28 Sep 2021, at 12:06, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, 
>>> however when trying to go page up or down  get a error sound.  I hvbe tried 
>>> on different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know what the 
>>> [roblem is   
>>> 
>>> 
 On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI.
>>> 
 naries  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page 
 Up/Down and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice.  Press 
 VO-k to engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys.  You will 
 hear left, right up and down.  Hold down the FN key, the key in the lower 
 left of the keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO.  You will 
 hear Page Up, Page Down, Home and End along with the action it performs.  
 Note that it is moving the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard cursor.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam 
> folder.
> Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am 
> using a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again.
> 
> On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get 
> the Page Up/Down action.  Use FN plus left and right to achieve the 
> Home/End actions.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which 
>> doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts?
>> Regards Ron.
>> 
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Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

There are certain areas, such as HTML areas within a browser or Mail, that do 
not support the Page UP/Down action.  This is likely due to the fact that these 
are not actually pages like in a word processing document or a PDF document.  
In a PDF for example, interact with the first page, press FN-down a few times 
and you should hear VO announce “down” as it progresses down the pages of the 
document.  Once it has moved down, use VO navigation to start reading, do not 
simply use arrow navigation as you’ll find that the cursor remains where it was 
to begin with.  This process is definitely not foolproof, but works most times 
when in a scenario where page markers are present.

HTH.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:55 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can’t execute page up or down with fn+up arrow or down arrow.  It just 
> doesn’t work.  I’ve not found the way to move by page ever. :)
> 
> Andrew
> 
>> On 28 Sep 2021, at 12:06, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, 
>> however when trying to go page up or down  get a error sound.  I hvbe tried 
>> on different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know what the 
>> [roblem is   
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI.
>> 
>>> naries  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page 
>>> Up/Down and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice.  Press 
>>> VO-k to engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys.  You will hear 
>>> left, right up and down.  Hold down the FN key, the key in the lower left 
>>> of the keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO.  You will hear Page 
>>> Up, Page Down, Home and End along with the action it performs.  Note that 
>>> it is moving the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard cursor.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam folder.
 Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am 
 using a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again.
 
 On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get the 
 Page Up/Down action.  Use FN plus left and right to achieve the Home/End 
 actions.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which 
> doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts?
> Regards Ron.
> 
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Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...

['Ron' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Andrew, I was beginning ti think I was doing something wrong! Thanks for the 
reply, rom.


> On 28 Sep 2021, at 13:55, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can’t execute page up or down with fn+up arrow or down arrow.  It just 
> doesn’t work.  I’ve not found the way to move by page ever. :)
> 
> Andrew
> 
>> On 28 Sep 2021, at 12:06, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, 
>> however when trying to go page up or down  get a error sound.  I hvbe tried 
>> on different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know what the 
>> [roblem is   
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI.
>> 
>>> naries  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page 
>>> Up/Down and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice.  Press 
>>> VO-k to engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys.  You will hear 
>>> left, right up and down.  Hold down the FN key, the key in the lower left 
>>> of the keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO.  You will hear Page 
>>> Up, Page Down, Home and End along with the action it performs.  Note that 
>>> it is moving the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard cursor.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam folder.
 Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am 
 using a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again.
 
 On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get the 
 Page Up/Down action.  Use FN plus left and right to achieve the Home/End 
 actions.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
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> Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which 
> doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts?
> Regards Ron.
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Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

I can’t execute page up or down with fn+up arrow or down arrow.  It just 
doesn’t work.  I’ve not found the way to move by page ever. :)

Andrew

> On 28 Sep 2021, at 12:06, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, 
> however when trying to go page up or down  get a error sound.  I hvbe tried 
> on different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know what the 
> [roblem is   
> 
> 
>> On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI.
> 
>> naries  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page 
>> Up/Down and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice.  Press 
>> VO-k to engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys.  You will hear 
>> left, right up and down.  Hold down the FN key, the key in the lower left of 
>> the keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO.  You will hear Page Up, 
>> Page Down, Home and End along with the action it performs.  Note that it is 
>> moving the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard cursor.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam folder.
>>> Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am using 
>>> a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get the 
>>> Page Up/Down action.  Use FN plus left and right to achieve the Home/End 
>>> actions.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which 
 doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts?
 Regards Ron.
 
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RE: sim card

[Rebecca Skipper]

Does Spectrum offer a virtual Sim Card?

I had to get a sim Card sent to me once I provided my eimi number or something 
like that.

I have Spectrum Internet so can get their phone plan for $14 a month.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:56 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: sim card

 

that's pretty cool. I just signed up with Spectrum.





On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

Not sure if you mentioned your original carrier, but I know for certain that 
T-Mobile has an app in the app store that enables the Virtual SIM to use the 
T-Mobile network as a demo. I read about this a few weeks back in tidbits. 
 com's weekly newsletter. 

 

heading level 1 T-Mobile’s Network Test Drive Puts 5G on Your iPhone’s eSIM

https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/

 

Well, I guess it was from early July based on that URL. 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On Sep 27, 2021, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think Spectrum 
has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll ask.




On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
virtual Sim Cards.


-Original Message-
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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Sarah Massengale
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: sim card

Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a delicate 
little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it can be really 
tricky.





On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com> > wrote:

has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea how to 
do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...

['Ron' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, 
however when trying to go page up or down  get a error sound.  I hvbe tried on 
different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know what the 
[roblem is   


> On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI.

> naries  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page Up/Down 
> and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice.  Press VO-k to 
> engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys.  You will hear left, 
> right up and down.  Hold down the FN key, the key in the lower left of the 
> keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO.  You will hear Page Up, Page 
> Down, Home and End along with the action it performs.  Note that it is moving 
> the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard cursor.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam folder.
>> Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am using 
>> a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again.
>> 
>> On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get the 
>> Page Up/Down action.  Use FN plus left and right to achieve the Home/End 
>> actions.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which 
>>> doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts?
>>> Regards Ron.
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Audible App keeps stopping in IOS 15

['Adrienne Chalmers' via MacVisionaries]

Hi

I am also experiencing this on my SE2020 and my original SE, which I keep for 
reading books on. 

In the settings, which can be accessed through the more button on the expanded 
player screen, there is an option to disable autolock. If you switch this to 
off then the player will stop as soon as the screen locks. If you turn it on, 
you won’t have playback stop, but it eats the battery.

Clearly this is a bug and I am just about to report it to Audible. Anyone else 
experiencing this could they please do that too? The more the merrier, I think.

Best

Adrienne 

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Voiceover doesn't follow Braille cursor in Big Sur 11.6

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

A question to Braille users on the mac in Big Sur 11.6.  When I choose to read 
text either in email or in TextEdit using my Braille display, I notice that 
Voiceover focus doesn’t follow Braille display.  As a result, if I decide to 
use my keyboard cursor to switch to using voice rather than Braille, Voiceover 
is still at the beginning of the document.  This is such a nuisance because it 
means once you start using your Braille display to read text, you can’t switch 
to listening to the text should you get tired or want to speed up reading for a 
portion of the text.  Am I missing something here?  Does anyone else experience 
this?  I have reported it to Apple Accessibility but they have given me some 
vague explanation to do with checking or unchecking “show multiple items” in 
Braille category / layout of Voiceover utility which didn’t make one bit of 
difference.  Is there a solution to this?

Andrew

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