Re: How to change Voiceover voice on Apple Watch

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Tim,

OK, so I’ve added a second language. But I still don’t see any way to select a 
different voice. I did this before, so I know it’s possible, I just can’t 
figure out how to do it again.
Cheers,
Donna

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> On Jan 14, 2022, at 7:05 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Go into Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor Languages and Add a 
> language. .  Once you’ve added the language, the language option will be in 
> the rotor and you can swipe up/down when the rotor is on Language to change 
> the voice.  If someone else has more granular voice options, I’d like to 
> know.  I’ve been playing a little and got this far, but haven’t figured out 
> if I can choose between voices within the added language.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2022, at 16:14, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> This morning I had to reset my watch and re-pair it as a new watch.  Now I 
>> back to the Samantha voice again, and I can’t remember how to change to one 
>> of the other voices.  Can someone please refresh my memory?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: VO-X Command?

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Try using the arrow keys. I believe it will tell you the location of the top 
left corner of the window you are moving. You can also use the window resize 
options 'which is the shifted accent key with 'the VO modifier  

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> On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:53 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> About VO-Accent, it says moving windows and I don’t know what it means. Can a 
> blind person use this command?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 2:31 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: VO-X Command?
>  
> What does VO-K say it does? 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2022, at 16:11, Fazil M.  wrote:
>  
> Thanks much, Jonathan!
> What does VO-Accent do?
> Thanks again.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:50 AM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: VO-X Command?
>  
> Nothing, unless you have set up activities.
> Next Question: What are activities?
> They are a way to customize how VO behaves. You can either link them to an 
> app or a web page, or can activate them with the VO-X command.
>  
>  
> Jonathan
>  
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 13, 2022, at 14:58, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?
> Thanks!
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RE: VO-X Command?

[Fazil M.]

About VO-Accent, it says moving windows and I don’t know what it means. Can a 
blind person use this command?

Thanks!

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 2:31 PM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: VO-X Command?

 

What does VO-K say it does? 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On Jan 14, 2022, at 16:11, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks much, Jonathan!

What does VO-Accent do?

Thanks again.

 

 

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<  macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:50 AM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries < 
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Subject: Re: VO-X Command?

 

Nothing, unless you have set up activities.

Next Question: What are activities?

They are a way to customize how VO behaves. You can either link them to an app 
or a web page, or can activate them with the VO-X command.

 

 

Jonathan

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn









On Jan 13, 2022, at 14:58, Fazil M. <  
mfa...@outlook.com> wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?

Thanks!

 

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Re: How to change Voiceover voice on Apple Watch

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Go into Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor Languages and Add a language. 
.  Once you’ve added the language, the language option will be in the rotor and 
you can swipe up/down when the rotor is on Language to change the voice.  If 
someone else has more granular voice options, I’d like to know.  I’ve been 
playing a little and got this far, but haven’t figured out if I can choose 
between voices within the added language.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 14, 2022, at 16:14, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This morning I had to reset my watch and re-pair it as a new watch.  Now I 
> back to the Samantha voice again, and I can’t remember how to change to one 
> of the other voices.  Can someone please refresh my memory?
> TIA,
> Donna
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How to change Voiceover voice on Apple Watch

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

This morning I had to reset my watch and re-pair it as a new watch.  Now I back 
to the Samantha voice again, and I can’t remember how to change to one of the 
other voices.  Can someone please refresh my memory?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Is There Any Way ...

[Jonathan Cohn]

If you search AppleScript mail signature you should get some results. I'm not 
sure if these will still work in a modern MacOS, as it is  more secure.
I would expect that keyboard maestro or text expander might also have mail 
signature functionality.
.
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 12, 2021, at 13:16, Bill Gallik  wrote:
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> Can anyone offer a suggestion to automate creation of signature tags?
> 
> Here’s a bit of background.
> 
> I’ve subscribed to “Quote of the Day” and save the ones I like to text files 
> in a folder I’ve created named “Signatures.”  Each file is named using a 
> phrase in the e-mail/file with the “TXT” extension.
> 
> For example, I have a signature that reads, “The early bird may get the worm, 
> but the second mouse gets the cheese.”
> 
> This quote (with my name affixed at the beginning of the file, is in a file 
> named “Second Mouse.”
> 
> Likewise, the signature (in the signature list) is also named “Second Mouse.”
> 
> Is there any process I could use to process each file, placing the contents 
> of said file in the signature configuration?
> 
> I’m wondering if I could develope a shell script that could open each file, 
> copy the contents therein and place that contents in a signature block using 
> the same name for the signature as the file name (minus the “TXT” extension).
> 
> I certainly know how to process each file, copying the contents and stripping 
> the “.TXT” extension; but I have no idea if the signature configuration uses 
> special files and what those files might be.  Can anyone offer a suggestion 
> or point me to a document that clearly describes the signature structure for 
> MacOS?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> * * * * * * * * * * * *
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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> "He who controls the present controls the past."
> George Orwell
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Re: VO-X Command?

[Jonathan Cohn]

What does VO-K say it does? 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 14, 2022, at 16:11, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> Thanks much, Jonathan!
> What does VO-Accent do?
> Thanks again.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:50 AM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Re: VO-X Command?
>  
> Nothing, unless you have set up activities.
> Next Question: What are activities?
> They are a way to customize how VO behaves. You can either link them to an 
> app or a web page, or can activate them with the VO-X command.
>  
>  
> Jonathan
>  
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2022, at 14:58, Fazil M. > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, Group.
>> What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?
>> Thanks!
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Re: passwords

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

In Big Sur and Monterey, after you’ve selected the web-site with he password 
you just saved, stop interacting with the table, VO-right to the Scroll area 
and interact with it.  Locate the Edit button and VO-space on it.  The username 
and password will be there.  You can tab between the two fields and copy/paste 
the password to another location if you desire.  Depending on where you save 
this password, it may be more secure to leave it where it is and follow this 
process to read it if needed.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
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> On Jan 14, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I'm trying to read a password for an account I created. I let Safari create a 
> strong password but I'd like to write it down someplace and I can't read it 
> with vo. I went to passwords in System prefs and unlocked it but I still 
> couldn't actually read the password although I did find the account. how is 
> this done with Vo assuming it can be?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Enabling dictation on an iMac (latest OS)

[maurice mines]

Good afternoon the best way to enable activation number yes did you following. 
One, to system preferences go when we to ability then go down voice control 
enable that. Just checking to make sure do you have the correct I can put 
source you want. For instants, I am using a professional audio set out to 
dictate this message because I'm testing hey stop for a zoom meeting tomorrow. 

I hope this helps?

Sincerely Maurice Mines. 

PS do you have to be careful if you us some microphones with your Mac. That can 
sometimes overdrive the system. Be well everyone have a great MLK day weekend.

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passwords

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm trying to read a password for an account I created. I let Safari create a 
strong password but I'd like to write it down someplace and I can't read it 
with vo. I went to passwords in System prefs and unlocked it but I still 
couldn't actually read the password although I did find the account. how is 
this done with Vo assuming it can be?

thanks.
Lorie

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RE: VO-X Command?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Jonathan!

What does VO-Accent do?

Thanks again.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:50 AM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: VO-X Command?

 

Nothing, unless you have set up activities.

Next Question: What are activities?

They are a way to customize how VO behaves. You can either link them to an app 
or a web page, or can activate them with the VO-X command.

 

 

Jonathan

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On Jan 13, 2022, at 14:58, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Enabling dictation on an iMac (latest OS)

[Frank Ventura]

Tim, OK thanks. I’ll give that a try.

Frank Ventura


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Subject: Re: Enabling dictation on an iMac (latest OS)

Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Keyboard, under the Dictation tab.  I believe though that 
you can double-press the ctrl key instead.

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On Jan 14, 2022, at 14:05, Frank Ventura 
mailto:frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>> wrote:

Hi all I am helping out someone who has an iMac with all the latest OS updates. 
She wants to enable dictation. Normally this can be done by pressing the FN key 
twice. The keyboard she has does not have an FN key on it. I looked in System 
Preferences and could not find where to change that key. Can anyone point me in 
the correct direction as to where to change the dictation key?

Thanks
Frank Ventura

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Re: Enabling dictation on an iMac (latest OS)

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Hi,

Go into System Prefs, Keyboard, under the Dictation tab.  I believe though that 
you can double-press the ctrl key instead.

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> On Jan 14, 2022, at 14:05, Frank Ventura  
> wrote:
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> Hi all I am helping out someone who has an iMac with all the latest OS 
> updates. She wants to enable dictation. Normally this can be done by pressing 
> the FN key twice. The keyboard she has does not have an FN key on it. I 
> looked in System Preferences and could not find where to change that key. Can 
> anyone point me in the correct direction as to where to change the dictation 
> key?
>  
> Thanks
> Frank Ventura
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Enabling dictation on an iMac (latest OS)

[Frank Ventura]

Hi all I am helping out someone who has an iMac with all the latest OS updates. 
She wants to enable dictation. Normally this can be done by pressing the FN key 
twice. The keyboard she has does not have an FN key on it. I looked in System 
Preferences and could not find where to change that key. Can anyone point me in 
the correct direction as to where to change the dictation key?



Thanks

Frank Ventura

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Re: VO-X Command?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Nothing, unless you have set up activities.
Next Question: What are activities?
They are a way to customize how VO behaves. You can either link them to an app 
or a web page, or can activate them with the VO-X command.


Jonathan

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 13, 2022, at 14:58, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?
> Thanks!
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Re: Issues with Siri on my iPhone

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello, yes space with I should bring up the item chooser. I do find it a bit 
more tricky than with voice though. I believe last time I used it focus went to 
the input field, but input did not seem to work. 
I believe there is also a braille shortcut for find but I have never used it.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 13, 2022, at 18:35, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> I’m much less familiar with braille support for iOS than I am with the Mac. 
> Does iOS allow you to use VO-FN-Right-Arrow to jump to the end of the window? 
> Also, if iOS has an equivalent of the Item Chooser Menu, you could use that 
> to move straight to the desired control.
>  
> I’ve attached a braille display to my iOS devices, but I haven’t used it 
> extensively with them, unlike the Mac, Linux, and Windows, where I’m using 
> braille extensively.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Jason Judy 
> Date: Thursday, 13January, 2022 at 17:17
> To: macvisionaries 
> Subject: Issues with Siri on my iPhone
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> A Braille user here, I'm having a couple of issues with Siri. I usually press 
> the fn + s on a bluetooth keyboard or a customized braille shortcut on a 
> braille device to bring up Siri.
> 
> First issue, when bring up Siri, it tends to appear at the bottom of the 
> content, that I'd have had to go all way down for the Siri's text field to 
> appear on the braille display.
> 
> Second issue, after using Siri several times, it stopped working when I tried 
> to type in my requests in Siri's blank text field. That I'd have to reboot my 
> iPhone every time when it happens in order to get Siri to work again.
> 
> Is there a trick to prompt Siri's text field to appear on the braille display 
> instead of having to go down to the bottom for it to appear on the braille 
> display? And is there a way to get Siri to work once again without having to 
> regoot the iPhone?
> 
> Jace
> 
> Sent from Jace's iPhone
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Re: A couple of question after getting a new Mac Air

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Technically, Brad is correct of course.  Also, technically, Christine did not 
specifically want to work in Word, or .DOCX format, but wanted to be able to 
Save/Export to a .DOCX format.  TextEdit and Pages will do both.  Now, each of 
those will open the Word/.DOCX formatted document within their own respective 
word processor, and you, as Brad aptly said, will be working in either TextEdit 
or Pages, not Word.  Again, you’ll work in TextEdit/Pages and have to export to 
Word format when you want to share it with another who only has access to Word. 
 Essentially, the only way you can work in Word format, is to actually do 
exactly that, work in Word.

For Pages and Word, you can work both on-line or off-line.  Word however, is a 
subscription based model unless you are a student or faculty of an educational 
institution

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/free-microsoft-office-yes-you-can-get-word-excel-and-powerpoint-at-no-cost/
 


So, with all this in mind, considering the parameters you outlined in your 
original post, Pages is your best bet if you  prefer free, but Othe Office 365 
family edition might work for you as well if you do not wish the need to export 
to Word whenever you wish to share the document with a non-Pages user.

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> On Jan 13, 2022, at 17:44, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Pages does not allow you to work in a .DOC  or .DOCX format. You can export 
> your final product to a MS word format, but that's not at all the same thing 
> as being able to work in one of those formats.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Jan 13, 2022, at 17:50, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
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> 
> I think Pages would be your best bet, and it is free on IOS and the mac.
>  
> From: 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 6:44 PM
> To: Mac Users Group 
> Subject: Re: A couple of question after getting a new Mac Air
>  
> In terms of a word processor, I’d like something that will allow me to save 
> files in in .docx format. I’m also not interested in one of those 
> subscription-based word processors where you pay for it by the month. I’m 
> happy to pay for something that will meet my needs, but I’d prefer a one-time 
> payment rather than paying by the month or year. Lastly, I’d rather not use a 
> processor that requires an internet connection. I generally prefer to do my 
> writing offline.
> 
> As far as that Google prompt goes, google mail is working without issue. I 
> followed those instructions in system preferences, but once I get to internet 
> accounts, it shows the account is logged in. It’s almost like that 
> notification comes up without actually needing to, like it hasn’t cleared or 
> something.
> 
> Thank you in advance for any insight you might have.
>  
> Kristeen
> 
> 
> On Jan 13, 2022, at 10:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
>  
> Concerning editors, a word count is something that can be easily added via a 
> script, so what other features are you looking for in a text editor? There 
> are several around from Emacs to nisus Pro . 
> Also, if you look for something in the App Store it is harder to use than in 
> earlier MacOS systems, but tends to have quite a few things. . One could even 
> get Microsoft Word, but I find it more difficult than pages to work with.
> In terms of the Google   prompt, is  Google mail working? I would suggest 
> either logging out or force quitting System Preferences. What should happen 
> is:
> 1. You click on the Google account in System Preferences Internet Accounts.
> 2. A prompt comes up saying you need to enter the information in a Browser 
> window.
> 3. You click the OK, proceed or whatever the button is there.
> 4. Safari opens in a private browsing window and you enter your Google 
> credentials.
> 5. At this point the prompt to open a browser to enter the password should be 
> gone.
>  
>  Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 12, 2022, at 20:16, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> After getting a new Mac Air and setting it up, my partner has a couple of 
> minor issues.
> First of all, what are people using as a simple text editor that has a few 
> more features than Text Edit, such as being able to get a word count, but is 
> not as complex as Pages? iText Express was her go-to editor, but it does not 
> work with the new Air and/or OS.
> 
> Also, she can’t get rid of the Google login screen. The computer is logged 
> into the Google account, but the request to log in with the username and 
> password will not go away. Any thoughts would be appreciated. She did try 
> going back into Sys

Re: VO-X Command?

[dan d.]

To know what any key commands do, vo+k goes into keyboard help.  When hitting a 
key or combination it will announce what it does.  Press
escape to leave help.

On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, Fazil M. wrote:

> Hi, Group.
>
> What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?
>
> Thanks!
>
>

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