Re: Strange Results When Trying to Open Additional Text Files

[Brad Snyder]

Good to know.
Thanks Jonathan.

- Brad -



> On Mar 16, 2022, at 18:30, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Brad,
> Those items are not in the textedit view menu. For the open dialog, I did 
> find after pressing command-O in textedit that there is a menu button 
> labeled:  "Change the item grouping (hold down Option to change the sort)" 
> next to the "list" menu button. If you VO-Space on button, the first option 
> is "none" which should is probably what is wanted.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2022, at 14:14, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, it sounds like you were in a list view with sort by date added and 
>> categories enabled. Try going to the view menu in the menu bar, and turning 
>> off categories now, the category headings will be gone, and your files will 
>> be sorted by date added. If you don't want this sort mode, you can pick 
>> another one such as file name if that's what you wish.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2022, at 11:08, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> The open dialog is very similar to a finder panel, including having options 
>> to switch views with command key. It sounds like you have this as a list 
>> view with group by date in place. So pressing command-1 to switch to Icon 
>> view or command-3 to switch to column view should help.
>> There are also several folks in the sighted world that like a finder 
>> extension called default folder X. This adds additional controls into the 
>> open and save dialogs. I have personally never used it.
>> HTH!
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2022, at 10:02, Bill Gallik >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m experiencing a strange phenomenon using TextEdit.  I have a number of 
>>> files that contain my various signature tags, one file per tag.  I also 
>>> have one “Master” file that contains nothing more than the first several 
>>> lines of my signature tags.  When I find a clever or interesting phrase 
>>> that I’d like to deploy as a signature tag, I open TextEdit and place that 
>>> phrase or sentence(s) in the file.  While still in the specific signature 
>>> tag file, I open the master signature file to grab those top few lines so 
>>> that all signature tags begin with a common form.
>>> 
>>> This worked quite nicely until yesterday; now when I attempt to 
>>> additionally open the master file I encounter a quite strange menu 
>>> referring to time increments (i.e., today, week, month, prior month, prior 
>>> month, etc. and then the years in descending order.  All I want to do is to 
>>> open the master signature tag file so I can copy those top few lines and 
>>> add them to the new signature file so that all my signature tags include 
>>> the blank line, row of asterisks and my name line.
>>> 
>>> What the heck is going on?
>>> 
>>> Can this be reversed?
>>> 
>>> TIA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> * * * * * * * * * * * *
>>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>>> - "There are no regrets in life. Just lessons."
>>> - Jennifer Aniston
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MSWord File In Email Attachment?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I received an MSWord file as an email attachment. I saved it in Download
folder and found it there too.

When I try to open this Word file, Voiceover takes it to Pages App and
wanted to convert it in Page format.

How would I read this file if I let it be converted in Page format and be
saved there?

I have never used Page before.

Thank you very much and I do appreciate for your help.

 

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Re: Strange Results When Trying to Open Additional Text Files

[Jonathan Cohn]

Brad,
Those items are not in the textedit view menu. For the open dialog, I did find 
after pressing command-O in textedit that there is a menu button labeled:  
"Change the item grouping (hold down Option to change the sort)" next to the 
"list" menu button. If you VO-Space on button, the first option is "none" which 
should is probably what is wanted.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 16, 2022, at 14:14, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Actually, it sounds like you were in a list view with sort by date added and 
> categories enabled. Try going to the view menu in the menu bar, and turning 
> off categories now, the category headings will be gone, and your files will 
> be sorted by date added. If you don't want this sort mode, you can pick 
> another one such as file name if that's what you wish.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 16, 2022, at 11:08, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> The open dialog is very similar to a finder panel, including having options 
> to switch views with command key. It sounds like you have this as a list view 
> with group by date in place. So pressing command-1 to switch to Icon view or 
> command-3 to switch to column view should help.
> There are also several folks in the sighted world that like a finder 
> extension called default folder X. This adds additional controls into the 
> open and save dialogs. I have personally never used it.
> HTH!
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2022, at 10:02, Bill Gallik > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m experiencing a strange phenomenon using TextEdit.  I have a number of 
>> files that contain my various signature tags, one file per tag.  I also have 
>> one “Master” file that contains nothing more than the first several lines of 
>> my signature tags.  When I find a clever or interesting phrase that I’d like 
>> to deploy as a signature tag, I open TextEdit and place that phrase or 
>> sentence(s) in the file.  While still in the specific signature tag file, I 
>> open the master signature file to grab those top few lines so that all 
>> signature tags begin with a common form.
>> 
>> This worked quite nicely until yesterday; now when I attempt to additionally 
>> open the master file I encounter a quite strange menu referring to time 
>> increments (i.e., today, week, month, prior month, prior month, etc. and 
>> then the years in descending order.  All I want to do is to open the master 
>> signature tag file so I can copy those top few lines and add them to the new 
>> signature file so that all my signature tags include the blank line, row of 
>> asterisks and my name line.
>> 
>> What the heck is going on?
>> 
>> Can this be reversed?
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
>> 
>> * * * * * * * * * * * *
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - "There are no regrets in life. Just lessons."
>> - Jennifer Aniston
>> 
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Re: Braille Displays

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I have a Focus 5th generation display too. I’ve also used a Baum SuperVario 40 
display with Mac OS, but the display eventually developed a hardware problem – 
not surprisingly, as I bought it in 2005 or so, and it lasted a long time with 
only one cleaning and servicing, as I recall. I don’t know what the hardware 
problem is, and it may be fixable.

From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
Date: Wednesday, 16March, 2022 at 17:57
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Braille Displays
I use the focus 5th Generation for PC tablet, Mac OS, I Phone and Apple Watch.

> On 7 Mar 2022, at 13:16, Julie Rattray  wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I use the aphmantis Q40 which I really like
>
>> On 5 Mar 2022, at 00:03, Holly Jensen  wrote:
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>> Hello,
>>
>> I am wondering what kind of braille display everyone uses. I am hoping to 
>> find one that works well for both the Mac and the Apple watch, if that is 
>> even possible. Many thanks.
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Re: Braille Displays

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I use the focus 5th Generation for PC tablet, Mac OS, I Phone and Apple Watch.

> On 7 Mar 2022, at 13:16, Julie Rattray  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I use the aphmantis Q40 which I really like 
> 
>> On 5 Mar 2022, at 00:03, Holly Jensen  wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am wondering what kind of braille display everyone uses. I am hoping to 
>> find one that works well for both the Mac and the Apple watch, if that is 
>> even possible. Many thanks.
>> 
>> Holly
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Re: keyboard shortcuts for playing rumble videos?

[Lorie McCloud]

you've gotten farther than I have with Rumble. I can't even play videos from 
there on my Mac although they work fine on my phone. 

where do you see: "main"? is it after the video has loaded?

thanks.
Lorie

> On Mar 16, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Chuck Reichel  
> wrote:
> 
>   Hi list,
> does anybody know of any keyboard shortcuts for playing rumble videos?
> I can get playback started by VO space bar  on the top left of screen where 
> it says “main.
> and hit space bar to pause it but thats it! ;(
> I guess that there should be key command like youtube but no joy yet!
> Thanks
> Chuck
> 
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Re: Stopping JavaScript.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
>From what I remember in my Linux days there’s a no script add-on for Firefox.
Not sure if this is available for Safari or chrome.
I had to use that on some site that were auto refresh.
/A

> 16 mars 2022 kl. 16:51 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> There are a few sites that behave much better for me when JavaScript is 
> disabled. Currently, I use developer tools and toggle this with 
> command-shift-option-J and then refreshing the screen. 
> It seems it would be fairly easy to create a Safari extension to do this, and 
> I believe at least one competing browser has a way to block JavaScript for 
> specific obnoxious sites.
> Does anybody use a feature like this?
> Thanks!
> Jonathan 
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keyboard shortcuts for playing rumble videos?

[Chuck Reichel]

Hi list,
does anybody know of any keyboard shortcuts for playing rumble videos?
I can get playback started by VO space bar  on the top left of screen where it 
says “main.
and hit space bar to pause it but thats it! ;(
I guess that there should be key command like youtube but no joy yet!
Thanks
Chuck




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RE: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, done!

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 1:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

 

Hi,

 

The toggle for cursor tracking is VO-shift-f3.  It should say “Cursor tracking 
on” or “Cursor tracking off”.  If it does not, you may need to add the FN key.

 

Later…

 


Tim Kilburn
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Apple Professional Learning Specialist

Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada





On Mar 16, 2022, at 14:13, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks much, Tim.

Just in case, if the cursor tracking is off, how should I turn it on, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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Subject: Re: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

 

Hi,

 

That is one of the normal processes.  I just tested it on my MBP running 
Monterey 12.3 and pressing VO-space on the Bookmark sent me there.  Do you 
possibly have cursor tracking turned off?

 

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On Mar 16, 2022, at 12:16, Fazil M. <  
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Hi.

How can I access the Bookmark? I mean I can locate the bookmark in Favorite but 
I’m unable to open it by VO-Spacebar, am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

The toggle for cursor tracking is VO-shift-f3.  It should say “Cursor tracking 
on” or “Cursor tracking off”.  If it does not, you may need to add the FN key.

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> On Mar 16, 2022, at 14:13, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Thanks much, Tim.
> Just in case, if the cursor tracking is off, how should I turn it on, please?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
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> Hi,
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> That is one of the normal processes.  I just tested it on my MBP running 
> Monterey 12.3 and pressing VO-space on the Bookmark sent me there.  Do you 
> possibly have cursor tracking turned off?
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>> On Mar 16, 2022, at 12:16, Fazil M. > > wrote:
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>> Thanks!
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RE: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Tim.

Just in case, if the cursor tracking is off, how should I turn it on, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 11:29 AM
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Hi,

 

That is one of the normal processes.  I just tested it on my MBP running 
Monterey 12.3 and pressing VO-space on the Bookmark sent me there.  Do you 
possibly have cursor tracking turned off?

 

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On Mar 16, 2022, at 12:16, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi.

How can I access the Bookmark? I mean I can locate the bookmark in Favorite but 
I’m unable to open it by VO-Spacebar, am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

That is one of the normal processes.  I just tested it on my MBP running 
Monterey 12.3 and pressing VO-space on the Bookmark sent me there.  Do you 
possibly have cursor tracking turned off?

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> Thanks!
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Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

[Fazil M.]

Hi.

How can I access the Bookmark? I mean I can locate the bookmark in Favorite
but I'm unable to open it by VO-Spacebar, am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

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Re: Strange Results When Trying to Open Additional Text Files

[Brad Snyder]

Actually, it sounds like you were in a list view with sort by date added and 
categories enabled. Try going to the view menu in the menu bar, and turning off 
categories now, the category headings will be gone, and your files will be 
sorted by date added. If you don't want this sort mode, you can pick another 
one such as file name if that's what you wish.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 16, 2022, at 11:08, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

The open dialog is very similar to a finder panel, including having options to 
switch views with command key. It sounds like you have this as a list view with 
group by date in place. So pressing command-1 to switch to Icon view or 
command-3 to switch to column view should help.
There are also several folks in the sighted world that like a finder extension 
called default folder X. This adds additional controls into the open and save 
dialogs. I have personally never used it.
HTH!
Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 16, 2022, at 10:02, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I’m experiencing a strange phenomenon using TextEdit.  I have a number of 
> files that contain my various signature tags, one file per tag.  I also have 
> one “Master” file that contains nothing more than the first several lines of 
> my signature tags.  When I find a clever or interesting phrase that I’d like 
> to deploy as a signature tag, I open TextEdit and place that phrase or 
> sentence(s) in the file.  While still in the specific signature tag file, I 
> open the master signature file to grab those top few lines so that all 
> signature tags begin with a common form.
> 
> This worked quite nicely until yesterday; now when I attempt to additionally 
> open the master file I encounter a quite strange menu referring to time 
> increments (i.e., today, week, month, prior month, prior month, etc. and then 
> the years in descending order.  All I want to do is to open the master 
> signature tag file so I can copy those top few lines and add them to the new 
> signature file so that all my signature tags include the blank line, row of 
> asterisks and my name line.
> 
> What the heck is going on?
> 
> Can this be reversed?
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Re: Strange Results When Trying to Open Additional Text Files

[Jonathan Cohn]

The open dialog is very similar to a finder panel, including having options to 
switch views with command key. It sounds like you have this as a list view with 
group by date in place. So pressing command-1 to switch to Icon view or 
command-3 to switch to column view should help.
There are also several folks in the sighted world that like a finder extension 
called default folder X. This adds additional controls into the open and save 
dialogs. I have personally never used it.
HTH!
Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 16, 2022, at 10:02, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I’m experiencing a strange phenomenon using TextEdit.  I have a number of 
> files that contain my various signature tags, one file per tag.  I also have 
> one “Master” file that contains nothing more than the first several lines of 
> my signature tags.  When I find a clever or interesting phrase that I’d like 
> to deploy as a signature tag, I open TextEdit and place that phrase or 
> sentence(s) in the file.  While still in the specific signature tag file, I 
> open the master signature file to grab those top few lines so that all 
> signature tags begin with a common form.
> 
> This worked quite nicely until yesterday; now when I attempt to additionally 
> open the master file I encounter a quite strange menu referring to time 
> increments (i.e., today, week, month, prior month, prior month, etc. and then 
> the years in descending order.  All I want to do is to open the master 
> signature tag file so I can copy those top few lines and add them to the new 
> signature file so that all my signature tags include the blank line, row of 
> asterisks and my name line.
> 
> What the heck is going on?
> 
> Can this be reversed?
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> * * * * * * * * * * * *
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> - "There are no regrets in life. Just lessons."
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Re: Narrowing down my new iPhone choices

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Of course.
No hard feelings from me.
/A

> 16 mars 2022 kl. 00:03 skrev Phil Halton :
> 
> Sorry about my rant. I lost my mother because of social distancing (long 
> story), and I guess it kind of triggered me. Forgive the outburst.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Yes, I agree.
>> Even though I am not that antisocial person.
>> But go for the 13 if you want. More battery and better sound.
>> Go for the mini if you want a smaller device.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 15 mars 2022 kl. 03:02 skrev Phil Halton :
>>> 
>>> Lainer sounds interesting but I don’t do social distancing. People don’t 
>>> wanna be near me I figure they can move. Actually, I think that social 
>>> distancing is a wet dream for the antisocial types. Just my opinion. And, I 
>>> get a big kick out of crowding them. I must be rotten person.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
> On Mar 14, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
 
 Before you decide you're not interested in the 13 Pro because you feel 
 you don't need the better camera, keep in mind that along with the better 
 camera on the 13 Pro, comes  LIDAR, which is the ability to use the camera 
 to judge distance. The feature can be very helpful for blind envision 
 impaired users. While apps that use  LIDAR  are somewhat limited right 
 now, some of the features are very helpful. One of the useful features of 
 LIDAR is the ability to help you with social distancing. The feature is 
 built-in to the  Magnifier  app, and is is easily enabled from the home 
 screen or even the lock screen using a four finger triple tap.
 Two other apps I can think of off the top of my head that currently use 
 LIDAR, are Microsoft Seeing AI, and SuperSense.
 
 - Brad -
 
> On Mar 14, 2022, at 15:01, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 Upgrading from my iPhone XR, I’m narrowing things down between the iPhone 
 13 and the 13 mini. I don’t need any of the features of the 13 Pro as it 
 seems mostly camera enriched. And, I took a look at the iPhone SE third 
 generation and it’s just too far of a step backward even though the price 
 is right. So, between the 13 and a 13 minute I’m wondering what my real 
 impacts would be. I’m used to the form factor of the 10 hour, similar to 
 the 13, but I’m wondering about the 13 mini. What am I giving up exactly 
 by moving to the mini other than form factor. I know that speaker fidelity 
 will take a hit and the battery life is a little less, but other than that 
 they seem to be about the same  product. Any thoughts? I’m about to pull 
 the trigger and this is what it’s come down to for final decisions. 
 
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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It worked out well.
Now things are working  as expected.
/A

> 15 mars 2022 kl. 21:58 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Using VO navigation you should be able to easily find it.  I checked in Big 
> Sur on a 2013 MacBook Air and in Monterey on a 2015 MacBook Air and was able 
> to quickly find the button with VO-right.
> 
> • open System Prefs.
> • type user then press VO-space.
> • VO-FN-right then a few VO-lefts to find the lock.
> • VO-space on the lock and enter password.
> • VO-FN-left to get quickly to the top, then VO-right a few times to get to 
> the list.
> • Interact with the list and VO-down to the Login Options item.
> • stop interacting with the list and VO-right until you hear Accessibility 
> Options.
> • VO-space on it.
> • Interact with the table and VO-space on VoiceOver to have VO be on at the 
> Login screen.
> • VO-space on Apply.
> • close System Prefs.
> • restart your Mac to test.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 14:50, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim!
>> That was a bit hard to find but I did find it with the tab key.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 15 mars 2022 kl. 17:11 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then 
>>> select Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There 
>>> will be a button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a 
>>> screen with a table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is 
>>> checked, apply your changes, and restart your computer to see if the 
>>> changes stick.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
 I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
 Harry
 
> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
> logon prompt.
> Where do I go to make this work?
> 
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
> 
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Stopping JavaScript.

[Jonathan Cohn]

There are a few sites that behave much better for me when JavaScript is 
disabled. Currently, I use developer tools and toggle this with 
command-shift-option-J and then refreshing the screen. 
It seems it would be fairly easy to create a Safari extension to do this, and I 
believe at least one competing browser has a way to block JavaScript for 
specific obnoxious sites.
Does anybody use a feature like this?
Thanks!
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Strange Results When Trying to Open Additional Text Files

[Bill Gallik]

I’m experiencing a strange phenomenon using TextEdit.  I have a number of files 
that contain my various signature tags, one file per tag.  I also have one 
“Master” file that contains nothing more than the first several lines of my 
signature tags.  When I find a clever or interesting phrase that I’d like to 
deploy as a signature tag, I open TextEdit and place that phrase or sentence(s) 
in the file.  While still in the specific signature tag file, I open the master 
signature file to grab those top few lines so that all signature tags begin 
with a common form.

This worked quite nicely until yesterday; now when I attempt to additionally 
open the master file I encounter a quite strange menu referring to time 
increments (i.e., today, week, month, prior month, prior month, etc. and then 
the years in descending order.  All I want to do is to open the master 
signature tag file so I can copy those top few lines and add them to the new 
signature file so that all my signature tags include the blank line, row of 
asterisks and my name line.

What the heck is going on?

Can this be reversed?

TIA


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Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

['Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries]

On my M1 MacBook Pro yesterday I set up VoiceOver to start at the login screen 
all over again. When it restarted, VoiceOver worked fine. Today VoiceOver did 
not start at the login screen so I was very glad to have the hint to tap twice 
on the touchpad! That did work!
Harry

> On 15 Mar 2022, at 16:15, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
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> They don’t stick. This is happening on some machines. I have had at least 
> four instructors go through these steps and I have done this myself several 
> times. I think there may be an issue with this feature at this time.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 12:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then 
>> select Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There 
>> will be a button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a 
>> screen with a table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is 
>> checked, apply your changes, and restart your computer to see if the changes 
>> stick.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 01:07, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
 
 Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
 logon prompt.
 Where do I go to make this work?
 
 
 Dave Carlson
 Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
 
 
 
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