Re: iOS 16 Gestures

2022-12-17 Thread Dave Carlson 
Yes. Works.

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On Dec 17, 2022, at 10:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  4 finger single tap at top or bottom of screen?

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On 12/17/2022 9:45 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
> It still works for me, even with 16.2 iOS. Don’t know what to say.
> Dave Carlson
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> On Dec 17, 2022, at 9:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Prior to iOS 16, I had used the 4 finger tap at top of screen for move to 
> first item and at bottom for move to last item. The latter is now gone. Is 
> this a bug or an intentional change? Thanks.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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Re: iOS 16 Gestures

2022-12-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 

   4 finger single tap at top or bottom of screen?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
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On 12/17/2022 9:45 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:

It still works for me, even with 16.2 iOS. Don’t know what to say.

Dave Carlson
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On Dec 17, 2022, at 9:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


   Prior to iOS 16, I had used the 4 finger tap at top of screen for 
move to first item and at bottom for move to last item. The latter is 
now gone. Is this a bug or an intentional change? Thanks.


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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
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Re: iOS 16 Gestures

2022-12-17 Thread Dave Carlson 
It still works for me, even with 16.2 iOS. Don’t know what to say.

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On Dec 17, 2022, at 9:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Prior to iOS 16, I had used the 4 finger tap at top of screen for move to 
first item and at bottom for move to last item. The latter is now gone. Is this 
a bug or an intentional change? Thanks.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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iOS 16 Gestures

2022-12-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
   Prior to iOS 16, I had used the 4 finger tap at top of screen for 
move to first item and at bottom for move to last item. The latter is 
now gone. Is this a bug or an intentional change? Thanks.


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will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
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RE: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

2022-12-17 Thread M. Taylor 
Thank you so much for this, Donna.

Mark

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2022 7:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

Hi all,

In case anyone else is interested, I found a go fund me page that is raising 
funds to support Tim’s family.  You can also contact his daughter-in-law 
through that page.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/supporting-tim-kilburn 
Best,
Donna


On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Kliph  wrote:

It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a great 
co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn’t know it, then it hadn’t 
been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the years. He taught me 
a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, http://TTJTech.biz, and 
MacForTheBlind we send our condolences to his wife and Children. John Matt and 
I had great times with Tim, he had a one of a kind since of humor.  So again 
Tim, rest in Peace, and we will see you on the other side. Your life time 
Student.
Kliph!

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RE: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

2022-12-17 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Kliph and thank you for letting us know.

I do not have the words to express my sadness at this news.

I did not know Tim on a personal basis, but I do know that he made a difference 
in this world with his kindness and thoughtful replies to those in this 
community and, doubtless, many others as well.

I will never forget him; and that is a promise.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kliph
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 3:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

> It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
> Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a great 
> co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn’t know it, then it 
> hadn’t been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the years. He 
> taught me a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, 
> TTJTech.biz, and MacForTheBlind we send our condolences to his wife and 
> Children. John Matt and I had great times with Tim, he had a one of a kind 
> since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in Peace, and we will see you on the 
> other side. Your life time Student.
> Kliph!
> 

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Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

2022-12-17 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
I only knew him via the list, and he was regularly helping other 
participants with their Mac issues.


Condolences are expressed to his family. He will be greatly missed.

On 18/12/22 10:04, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries wrote:
Wow. That's unexpected news. I remember he was one of the people that 
helped me learn my first Mac back in 2010/2011 when I first joined 
this group. He will be greatly missed. R.I.P.

Regards,
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On Dec 17, 2022, at 9:07 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,

In case anyone else is interested, I found a go fund me page that is 
raising funds to support Tim’s family.  You can also contact his 
daughter-in-law through that page.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/supporting-tim-kilburn
Best,
Donna

On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Kliph  
wrote:


It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good 
Friend Tim Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past 
wednesday. He was a great co worker, he knew his apple products, 
and if he didn’t know it, then it hadn’t been invented yet.  We 
worked on a lot of projects over the years. He taught me a lot, and 
he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, TTJTech.biz 
, and MacForTheBlind we send our condolences 
to his wife and Children. John Matt and I had great times with Tim, 
he had a one of a kind since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in 
Peace, and we will see you on the other side. Your life time Student.

Kliph!



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Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

2022-12-17 Thread bbsshawn via MacVisionaries 
Wow. That's unexpected news. I remember he was one of the people that helped me 
learn my first Mac back in 2010/2011 when I first joined this group. He will be 
greatly missed. R.I.P.
Regards,
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> On Dec 17, 2022, at 9:07 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> In case anyone else is interested, I found a go fund me page that is raising 
> funds to support Tim’s family.  You can also contact his daughter-in-law 
> through that page.
> https://www.gofundme.com/f/supporting-tim-kilburn 
> Best,
> Donna
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>>> It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
>>> Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a 
>>> great co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn’t know it, then 
>>> it hadn’t been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the 
>>> years. He taught me a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, 
>>> TTJTech.biz , and MacForTheBlind we send our 
>>> condolences to his wife and Children. John Matt and I had great times with 
>>> Tim, he had a one of a kind since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in Peace, 
>>> and we will see you on the other side. Your life time Student.
>>> Kliph!
>>> 
>> 
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Re: iOS 16.2

2022-12-17 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
I have not experienced this, and I, too, have a 14 pro.  But I’ve only made one 
phone call.
Cheers,
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> Has anyone else had an issue of VO speech stopping after hanging up from a 
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> this happen until now. I just updated to iOS 16.2 yesterday morning and have 
> now noticed that when I end a call I almost always have to restart VO before 
> I can get speech back. 
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Re: iOS 16.2

2022-12-17 Thread Brad Snyder 
I've been experiencing this issue for quite a while, even going back to prior 
to the introduction of iOS 16.
Consider yourself fortunate if it is just now beginning to affect you and your 
device.

- Brad -

On Dec 17, 2022, at 16:33, Gabe Griffith  wrote:

Hello all, 

Has anyone else had an issue of VO speech stopping after hanging up from a call 
since updating to iOS 16.2? I have an iPhone 14 pro and have not had this 
happen until now. I just updated to iOS 16.2 yesterday morning and have now 
noticed that when I end a call I almost always have to restart VO before I can 
get speech back. 

Thanks, 

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iOS 16.2

2022-12-17 Thread Gabe Griffith 
Hello all, 

Has anyone else had an issue of VO speech stopping after hanging up from a call 
since updating to iOS 16.2? I have an iPhone 14 pro and have not had this 
happen until now. I just updated to iOS 16.2 yesterday morning and have now 
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Thanks, 

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Re: Opening collapsed messages in Mail

2022-12-17 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 



On 18/12/22 08:55, Herbie Allen wrote:

It is just you as I’m able to use Right Aero.

It's the same for me, and I've never experienced this issue.

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Re: Opening collapsed messages in Mail

2022-12-17 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
I have had trouble with this on occasion.  It usually happens when I first open 
the app.  After a while, things settle down and it does what it is supposed to 
do.

It has actually helped for me to leave apps open.  I was used to closing apps 
down after use as a Windows user, but this strategy does not seem to transfer 
as well to the Mac.

I could be wrong, but that is my impression.

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> Is this just me or is it Ventura 13.1?
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> Max.
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Re: Opening collapsed messages in Mail

2022-12-17 Thread Herbie Allen 
It is just you as I’m able to use Right Aero.

> On Dec 17, 2022, at 15:49, Agent086b  wrote:
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> when in mail messages I used to be able to open a collapsed  conversation by 
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> Max.
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Opening collapsed messages in Mail

2022-12-17 Thread Agent086b 
Hi all, 
when in mail messages I used to be able to open a collapsed  conversation by 
using right arrow to expand the list of messages.
I now find I must VO + space to open that list. This is just a slower way of 
doing things in my appinion.
Is this just me or is it Ventura 13.1?
Thanks as always for any advice.
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Re: An Option About Saving Changes That I Heard About?

2022-12-17 Thread John Panarese 
  Yes. For some reason, they made more than a few changes to previous defaults. 
I’m not exactly sure why. Trying to find some settings has been like going on a 
scavenger hunt ….


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> On Dec 17, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
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> Thanks John.  This is good to know.
> I see that this setting is off by default in Ventura.
> This is different than what I have experienced in earlier versions of the 
> macOS.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 17, 2022, at 11:40, John Panarese  wrote:
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>   It’s now in Desktop and Dock settings for some reason in Ventura. It’s 
> under the Windows and Apps heading.
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>> On Dec 17, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
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>> Not sure where this setting is found in macOS Ventura.
>> In Monterey, and earlier versions of the OS, it can be found in System 
>> Preferences > General.
>> This setting is on by default, so you really shouldn’t need to change it.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2022, at 10:58, Fazil M. > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Group.
>> I heard that there is a check box somewhere in System Setting. When this box 
>> is checked, the user is prompted whether they want to save changes when they 
>> close a file window, just like MSWindows. They have the option either to 
>> save changes or do not save.
>> Could someone tell me where this check-box is, if there is any?
>> Thanks!
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Re: An Option About Saving Changes That I Heard About?

2022-12-17 Thread Bradford Snyder 
Thanks John.  This is good to know.
I see that this setting is off by default in Ventura.
This is different than what I have experienced in earlier versions of the macOS.

- Brad -



On Dec 17, 2022, at 11:40, John Panarese  wrote:

  It’s now in Desktop and Dock settings for some reason in Ventura. It’s under 
the Windows and Apps heading.


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> On Dec 17, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Not sure where this setting is found in macOS Ventura.
> In Monterey, and earlier versions of the OS, it can be found in System 
> Preferences > General.
> This setting is on by default, so you really shouldn’t need to change it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 17, 2022, at 10:58, Fazil M.  > wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> I heard that there is a check box somewhere in System Setting. When this box 
> is checked, the user is prompted whether they want to save changes when they 
> close a file window, just like MSWindows. They have the option either to save 
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> Could someone tell me where this check-box is, if there is any?
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Re: An Option About Saving Changes That I Heard About?

2022-12-17 Thread John Panarese 
  It’s now in Desktop and Dock settings for some reason in Ventura. It’s under 
the Windows and Apps heading.


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> On Dec 17, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
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> Not sure where this setting is found in macOS Ventura.
> In Monterey, and earlier versions of the OS, it can be found in System 
> Preferences > General.
> This setting is on by default, so you really shouldn’t need to change it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 17, 2022, at 10:58, Fazil M.  > wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> I heard that there is a check box somewhere in System Setting. When this box 
> is checked, the user is prompted whether they want to save changes when they 
> close a file window, just like MSWindows. They have the option either to save 
> changes or do not save.
> Could someone tell me where this check-box is, if there is any?
> Thanks!
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Re: An Option About Saving Changes That I Heard About?

2022-12-17 Thread Bradford Snyder 
Not sure where this setting is found in macOS Ventura.
In Monterey, and earlier versions of the OS, it can be found in System 
Preferences > General.
This setting is on by default, so you really shouldn’t need to change it.

- Brad -



On Dec 17, 2022, at 10:58, Fazil M.  wrote:

Hi, Group.
I heard that there is a check box somewhere in System Setting. When this box is 
checked, the user is prompted whether they want to save changes when they close 
a file window, just like MSWindows. They have the option either to save changes 
or do not save.
Could someone tell me where this check-box is, if there is any?
Thanks!

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An Option About Saving Changes That I Heard About?

2022-12-17 Thread Fazil M. 
Hi, Group.

I heard that there is a check box somewhere in System Setting. When this box
is checked, the user is prompted whether they want to save changes when they
close a file window, just like MSWindows. They have the option either to
save changes or do not save.

Could someone tell me where this check-box is, if there is any?

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Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

2022-12-17 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Hi all,

In case anyone else is interested, I found a go fund me page that is raising 
funds to support Tim’s family.  You can also contact his daughter-in-law 
through that page.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/supporting-tim-kilburn 
 
Best,
Donna

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Kliph  wrote:
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>> It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
>> Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a 
>> great co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn’t know it, then 
>> it hadn’t been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the years. 
>> He taught me a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, 
>> TTJTech.biz, and MacForTheBlind we send our condolences to his wife and 
>> Children. John Matt and I had great times with Tim, he had a one of a kind 
>> since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in Peace, and we will see you on the 
>> other side. Your life time Student.
>> Kliph!
>> 
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Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

2022-12-17 Thread Suzanne Erb 
My prayers and best wishes go to his family and all his friends.  He was truly 
a git to the community. May he rest in peace.
Suzanne

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 21:33, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> Oh, I am stumped and shocked, I wished if the news is false. Very 
> knowledgeable and helpful guy. RIP, my friend, you left us said.
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 6:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn
>  
> Wow!  I knew Tim had a brain tumor, but I was hopeful for his recovery.
>  
> Tim was my go-to person.  He was the best person I knew for answering Mac 
> questions.  He was always generous with his help, and never judgmental about 
> what you did or didn’t know.
>  
> Does anyone know about his funeral arrangements?  Is there any fund we can 
> contribute to?
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 7:16 PM, John Panarese > > wrote:
>>  
>> Thoughts and prayers definitely go out from here. He will be sorely 
>> missed in the blindness community and among the blind Apple users.
>>  
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:52 PM, Kliph >> > wrote:
>>>  
 It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
 Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a 
 great co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn’t know it, 
 then it hadn’t been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the 
 years. He taught me a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at 
 SturItUp, TTJTech.biz , and MacForTheBlind we send 
 our condolences to his wife and Children. John Matt and I had great times 
 with Tim, he had a one of a kind since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in 
 Peace, and we will see you on the other side. Your life time Student.
 Kliph!
 
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RE: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

2022-12-17 Thread kriegler01 
Hi Cliff,
Thanks for letting us know. As others have stated, this is incredibly sad. When 
I was learning the Mac, Tim was my go-to-guy. Not only was he a wealth of 
information, he was always happy to assist. My thoughts and prayers are with 
his family.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kathryn Zodrow
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 8:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

Hi Cliff.
Wow, I had no idea that Tim Kilburn died on Wednesday. Very sorry to hear that. 
I was wondering what happened to him since I had not  heard from him on the 
list in a long time. He  would answer a lot of peoples questions if they had 
problems with their iPhone or Mac. I remember he was able to answer some of my 
tech questions if I had any problems with my Mac or iPhone, and was always very 
helpful. I didn’t know Tim that well, but I remember he used to be on the MIDI 
Mag list way back in 1999 and 2000 when I was in college.
Thanks for sharing this sad news about Tim. He  will be missed.
Katie


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> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:53 PM, Kliph  wrote:
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> 
>> 
>> It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
>> Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a 
>> great co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn’t know it, then 
>> it hadn’t been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the years. 
>> He taught me a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, 
>> TTJTech.biz, and MacForTheBlind we send our condolences to his wife and 
>> Children. John Matt and I had great times with Tim, he had a one of a kind 
>> since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in Peace, and we will see you on the 
>> other side. Your life time Student.
>> Kliph!
>> 
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Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

2022-12-17 Thread joseph hodge 
Thanks for sharing Cliff. I enjoyed learning from Tim. My thoughts and prayers 
go out to his family.

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:52 PM, Kliph  wrote:
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>> It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
>> Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a 
>> great co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn’t know it, then 
>> it hadn’t been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the years. 
>> He taught me a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, 
>> TTJTech.biz, and MacForTheBlind we send our condolences to his wife and 
>> Children. John Matt and I had great times with Tim, he had a one of a kind 
>> since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in Peace, and we will see you on the 
>> other side. Your life time Student.
>> Kliph!
>> 
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Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

2022-12-17 Thread Raymond Foret Jr 
Oh my goodness.  Tim was very helpful to me in my early Mac days.  RIP my 
friend.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Kliph  wrote:
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>> It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
>> Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a 
>> great co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn’t know it, then 
>> it hadn’t been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the years. 
>> He taught me a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, 
>> TTJTech.biz, and MacForTheBlind we send our condolences to his wife and 
>> Children. John Matt and I had great times with Tim, he had a one of a kind 
>> since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in Peace, and we will see you on the 
>> other side. Your life time Student.
>> Kliph!
>> 
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