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Re: Ring Update

2022-12-28 Thread Phil Halton

Thanks for the heads up I’m sticking with iOS 15 for a good while at least 
until they shake all this out.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Dec 28, 2022, at 4:29 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi all:
> So for months the Ring app was broken with iOS 16 all builds. Worked fine in 
> 15. Well Ring updated the app to 5.5.50 and iOS 16.2 works great with it.
> So Yay I moved to iOS 16.2. Well looks like Ring is the only thing that 
> works. Gees. Voiceover rate is faster on a slower setting. Fine I can deal. 
> Siri sucks and won’t respond the right way. Been there done that. Fine.. What 
> I cannot deal with is when you  make a call, put phone to your ear, then pull 
> it away, screen is black. You cannot end call, nor disable VO. Its awful.
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Re: Speech History Or Something Similar?

2022-12-28 Thread Brad Snyder

I frequently use the command VO + Shift + C, to copy last spoken phrase on my Mac. I find it works very well, and is very accurate.- Brad -On Dec 28, 2022, at 18:15, Herbie Allen  wrote:I have not used this feature on the mac, but I have on the iPhone and it’s pretty accurate. Maybe the speech history on the mac needs some work.On Dec 28, 2022, at 17:13, Fazil M.  wrote:Not really, but just curious when we say VO-Shift-c copies the last spoken phrase, does it mean the whole logical and meaningful text spoken in one breath or just a few words or one sentence?I am asking this because when I paste the last spoken utterance, the text does not contain what I want to hear.Thanks! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Herbie AllenSent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 2:50 PMTo: macvisionaries@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Speech History Or Something Similar? I dont think we do. Is there anything in particular you are trying to access?On Dec 28, 2022, at 13:49, Fazil M.  wrote: Hi, Group.Do we have something similar in Mac like speech history in Jaws?If yes, how can it be accessed, please?Thanks!  -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DS7PR20MB4159CAFB06DB047AF7CD9FC7C9F29%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/75468AD5-01A1-49AA-BA58-80B2A244D4A0%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DS7PR20MB41591B65F499FDD7CB43FDC8C9F29%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: Speech History Or Something Similar?

2022-12-28 Thread Herbie Allen

I have not used this feature on the mac, but I have on the iPhone and it’s 
pretty accurate. Maybe the speech history on the mac needs some work.

> On Dec 28, 2022, at 17:13, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> Not really, but just curious when we say VO-Shift-c copies the last spoken 
> phrase, does it mean the whole logical and meaningful text spoken in one 
> breath or just a few words or one sentence?
> I am asking this because when I paste the last spoken utterance, the text 
> does not contain what I want to hear.
> Thanks!
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> I dont think we do. Is there anything in particular you are trying to access?
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>> On Dec 28, 2022, at 13:49, Fazil M. > > wrote:
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>> Hi, Group.
>> Do we have something similar in Mac like speech history in Jaws?
>> If yes, how can it be accessed, please?
>> Thanks!
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RE: Speech History Or Something Similar?

2022-12-28 Thread Fazil M.

Not really, but just curious when we say VO-Shift-c copies the last spoken 
phrase, does it mean the whole logical and meaningful text spoken in one breath 
or just a few words or one sentence?

I am asking this because when I paste the last spoken utterance, the text does 
not contain what I want to hear.

Thanks!

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 2:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speech History Or Something Similar?

 

I dont think we do. Is there anything in particular you are trying to access?





On Dec 28, 2022, at 13:49, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

Do we have something similar in Mac like speech history in Jaws?

If yes, how can it be accessed, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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Re: Speech History Or Something Similar?

2022-12-28 Thread Herbie Allen

I dont think we do. Is there anything in particular you are trying to access?

> On Dec 28, 2022, at 13:49, Fazil M.  wrote:
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Re: Strange behavior with the latest Mac OSX.

2022-12-28 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
When such things happens it use. To be that I have something laying on the 
keyboard such as a calle or anything.
SO not sure really what could be causing this.
/A

> 28 dec. 2022 kl. 23:11 skrev Jessica Moss :
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> Just the standard one that came with my MacBook Pro.
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2022, at 5:10 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> Not that I am aware of.
>> What keyboard do you have?
>> /A
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>>> 28 dec. 2022 kl. 22:55 skrev Jessica Moss :
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>>> I’ve been noticing lately since the latest update, that when typing within 
>>> any app/web page via Voiceover, when I type simple things like T’s/R’s, T’s 
>>> being the biggest culprit, they will suddenly type multiple times without 
>>> me even knowing it.  This has just started since I updated, so that’s Gott 
>>> me curious if anyone else has experienced this.
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Re: Strange behavior with the latest Mac OSX.

2022-12-28 Thread Jessica Moss

Just the standard one that came with my MacBook Pro.

> On Dec 28, 2022, at 5:10 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Not that I am aware of.
> What keyboard do you have?
> /A
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>> being the biggest culprit, they will suddenly type multiple times without me 
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>> curious if anyone else has experienced this.
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Re: Strange behavior with the latest Mac OSX.

2022-12-28 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
Not that I am aware of.
What keyboard do you have?
/A

> 28 dec. 2022 kl. 22:55 skrev Jessica Moss :
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> even knowing it.  This has just started since I updated, so that’s Gott me 
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Strange behavior with the latest Mac OSX.

2022-12-28 Thread Jessica Moss

I’ve been noticing lately since the latest update, that when typing within any 
app/web page via Voiceover, when I type simple things like T’s/R’s, T’s being 
the biggest culprit, they will suddenly type multiple times without me even 
knowing it.  This has just started since I updated, so that’s Gott me curious 
if anyone else has experienced this.

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Re: old iPad mini

2022-12-28 Thread Lorie McCloud

ok. I found it in reset.

> On Dec 28, 2022, at 3:32 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> Head over to settings, your name, and turn off, find my iPhone or find my 
> iPad in this case. Then head over to General, and reset all settings in a 
> race Contant, and then the iPad will no longer be useful.
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I have an old iPad mini which is slowly becoming less and less useful. it 
>> can only go up to IOS 9. I’m going to send it to electronics heaven but 
>> first I need to have it forget all its data and settings. how do I do that?
>> 
>> thanks,
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Re: old iPad mini

2022-12-28 Thread Lorie McCloud

it doesn’t have my name like in the more recent IOS versions. at the bottom of 
general, I find Regulatory and Reset. don’t find anything about erasing data.

> On Dec 28, 2022, at 3:32 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> Head over to settings, your name, and turn off, find my iPhone or find my 
> iPad in this case. Then head over to General, and reset all settings in a 
> race Contant, and then the iPad will no longer be useful.
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I have an old iPad mini which is slowly becoming less and less useful. it 
>> can only go up to IOS 9. I’m going to send it to electronics heaven but 
>> first I need to have it forget all its data and settings. how do I do that?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Lorie
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Re: old iPad mini

2022-12-28 Thread Joseph Hudson

Head over to settings, your name, and turn off, find my iPhone or find my iPad 
in this case. Then head over to General, and reset all settings in a race 
Contant, and then the iPad will no longer be useful.

> On Dec 28, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> only go up to IOS 9. I’m going to send it to electronics heaven but first I 
> need to have it forget all its data and settings. how do I do that?
> 
> thanks,
> Lorie
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old iPad mini

2022-12-28 Thread Lorie McCloud

I have an old iPad mini which is slowly becoming less and less useful. it can 
only go up to IOS 9. I’m going to send it to electronics heaven but first I 
need to have it forget all its data and settings. how do I do that?

thanks,
Lorie

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Ring Update

2022-12-28 Thread sarai.bucciarelli

Hi all:

So for months the Ring app was broken with iOS 16 all builds. Worked fine in
15. Well Ring updated the app to 5.5.50 and iOS 16.2 works great with it.

So Yay I moved to iOS 16.2. Well looks like Ring is the only thing that
works. Gees. Voiceover rate is faster on a slower setting. Fine I can deal.
Siri sucks and won't respond the right way. Been there done that. Fine..
What I cannot deal with is when you  make a call, put phone to your ear,
then pull it away, screen is black. You cannot end call, nor disable VO. Its
awful.

 

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Speech History Or Something Similar?

2022-12-28 Thread Fazil M.

Hi, Group.

Do we have something similar in Mac like speech history in Jaws?

If yes, how can it be accessed, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: editing videos made on Zoom

2022-12-28 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries

I tried googling for:

+twisted +wave +"video module"

No results.

Raymond Foret Jr writes:
> >From what I understand, Twisted wave has a video editing plugin which allows 
> >you to move through the timeline of a video using just arrow keys.  As you 
> >pass over audio, the video changes correspondingly
> 
>   .  
> Sincerely,
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> Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user
> 
> > On Dec 27, 2022, at 9:00 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> > 
> > Then accessibility does not matter in this case. Quicktime is great for 
> > making videos if it’s just you, but from what it sounds like, this is an 
> > actual Zoom conference. I don’t think it has much in the way of video 
> > editing.
> > 
> >> On Dec 27, 2022, at 20:03, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> >> 
> >> ok. she’s sighted it’s just a matter of getting her to bother to do it.
> >> 
> >>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:38 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> >>> She could try iMovie then on the phone or Mac. Like I said though, I 
> >>> don’t think it will give any feedback about the video itself.
> >>> 
>  On Dec 27, 2022, at 17:05, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>  
>  I don’t think the visual is that big of a deal but on the other hand, 
>  she probably doesn’t want to be completely without it either. it’s just 
>  people sitting there talking.
>  
> > On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:49 PM, Herbie Allen  
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> > If you want to preserve the video, then no. The issue is that if you 
> > can’t see, you will not know what’s happening with the video part. If 
> > you just want audio, that’s a different story.
> > 
> >> On Dec 27, 2022, at 16:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Is there an accessible program that can be used to edit videos made on 
> >> Zoom? I’m working with somebody who’s making videos for her youtube 
> >> channel but hasn’t learned how to edit and I’m not sure she ever will.
> >> 
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Re: editing videos made on Zoom

2022-12-28 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries

Irfan,

I'm speculating that fade-in/fade-out over perhaps 200 ms would work
reasonably well, even for a person who doesn't see the results of the
video edit.


Extracting the audio and editing it is, as you say, another story. But,
I suspect most people who can see will want to have the video preserved.
So, I'm wondering whether my conjecture (above) has merrit. Would love
to find out! :)

Janina

Herbie Allen writes:
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> audio, that’s a different story.
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> > Zoom? I’m working with somebody who’s making videos for her youtube channel 
> > but hasn’t learned how to edit and I’m not sure she ever will.
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Re: editing videos made on Zoom

2022-12-28 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries

I'd also like to know this, whether Zoom or some other format such as
mp4, mkv, or webm.

It would be helpful if the editing app supported fade-in and fade-out
over splice points to make the result smoother visually and aurally.

Best,

Janina

Lorie McCloud writes:
> Is there an accessible program that can be used to edit videos made on Zoom? 
> I’m working with somebody who’s making videos for her youtube channel but 
> hasn’t learned how to edit and I’m not sure she ever will.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Mail Question: VO-J does not Read Email Message?

2022-12-28 Thread Raymond Foret Jr

I just use it like this.  When I’m in the all inboxes selection, and I want to 
read messages there, I just tab over to the message table and I’m there.  I 
should point out that I have preview set for five lines.  I’m not talking about 
the preview pain here.  YOu get rid of the preview pain the way Herbe described 
and it works like a charm.  I also have my messages set so that they are in 
assending order going down from the top and I did that in the view menu.  
When I want to look at my sent folder, all I kneed to do is just 
shift+tab over to the mail boxes table and arrow down to it then tab over right 
in to it and I’m there.  Want to get back to the all inbox selection?  Just 
shift+tab back to the mail box table and then up to the inbox then tab right 
over.

I’m using the latest in Ventura and, to the best of my knowledge, not using the 
classic view.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user

> On Dec 28, 2022, at 1:24 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> How can I close either panels, please?
> Thanks!
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 6:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mail Question: VO-J does not Read Email Message?
>  
> Wow, this is compicated to explain. The vo:j command jumps between major 
> areas of a window. In mail if you have both the messages panel and maibboxes 
> panel open, it skips one of the panels, and just jumps between toolbar, 
> mailboxes and message list. So, you can close the, mailboxes panel, or create 
> a hotspot for the message panel.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 9:09 PM, Fazil M. > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, Group.
>> When I am in Message-table, VO-J takes me to the body of the message and the 
>> subsequent press of VO-J brings me back to message-table.
>> Today, however, VO-J circling between message-table and mailbox-table, it is 
>> not reading the text of the message.
>> How can I have VO-j read my message as usual?
>> Thanks!
>> before
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Re: editing videos made on Zoom

2022-12-28 Thread Raymond Foret Jr

>From what I understand, Twisted wave has a video editing plugin which allows 
>you to move through the timeline of a video using just arrow keys.  As you 
>pass over audio, the video changes correspondingly

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Sincerely,
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> On Dec 27, 2022, at 9:00 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Then accessibility does not matter in this case. Quicktime is great for 
> making videos if it’s just you, but from what it sounds like, this is an 
> actual Zoom conference. I don’t think it has much in the way of video editing.
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 20:03, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> ok. she’s sighted it’s just a matter of getting her to bother to do it.
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:38 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> She could try iMovie then on the phone or Mac. Like I said though, I don’t 
>>> think it will give any feedback about the video itself.
>>> 
 On Dec 27, 2022, at 17:05, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 I don’t think the visual is that big of a deal but on the other hand, she 
 probably doesn’t want to be completely without it either. it’s just people 
 sitting there talking.
 
> On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:49 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> If you want to preserve the video, then no. The issue is that if you 
> can’t see, you will not know what’s happening with the video part. If you 
> just want audio, that’s a different story.
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 16:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> Is there an accessible program that can be used to edit videos made on 
>> Zoom? I’m working with somebody who’s making videos for her youtube 
>> channel but hasn’t learned how to edit and I’m not sure she ever will.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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