Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

[M. Taylor]

9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM

Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
original vs HomePod mini too.

Background
Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. Then 
the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more mass-market-focused 
$99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the full-size HomePod in March of 
2021.

While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby Atmos 
support, beamforming, and room sensing.

Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.

HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
Audio tech and features
 
For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
connectivity, and sensors).

The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
“advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original HomePod 
and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time tuning.

But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
since the mini doesn’t offer that.


HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos   ✅   ✅   ❌
Room sensing✅   ✅   ❌
Beamforming ✅   ✅   ❌
Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen)   ✅   ✅   ✅
Real-time tuningAdvanced computational audio with system sensing for 
real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational audio 
for real-time tuning
Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅   ✅   ✅
Home theater with Apple TV 4K   ✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
Auto bass correction✅   ✅   ❌

One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
Smart home, sensors, connectivity
 
Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new full-size 
smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for improved 
iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod mini.

HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.

HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
HomeKit + Siri  ✅   ✅   ✅
Thread/Matter   ✅   ❌   ✅
WiFi802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
Bluetooth   5.0 5.0 5.0
U1 chip ✅   ❌   ✅
Apple Silicon   S7  A8  S5
Sound recognition   ✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
Temperature and humidity sensor ✅   ❌   ✅
Intercom✅   ✅   ✅

The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the original 
but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch surface also 
appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe it’s 
thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to the switch 
from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.

Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the new HomePod – however, 
that’s really just used for the setup, not music playback.

Notably, more new features are coming to all HomePods with the upcoming 16.3 
release:
Speakers and mics
 HomePod 2 internals via Apple 

There are some interesting tweaks when it comes to the speakers and mics. 
First, Apple hints the high-excursion woofer is bigger. The new HomePod has a 
4-inch woofer while the size of the original wasn’t disclosed by Apple.

Other changes see the 7-array tweeter of the original simplified to 5 for 
HomePod, and the far-field mics are also reduced from 6 to 4.

HomePod 2   HomePod 1   HomePod mini
Woofer  4-inch high-excursion wooferHigh-excursion woofer   ❌
Speakers5-array horn-loaded tweeters7-array horn-loaded tweeters
Full-range driver and dual passive radiators
Far-field mics  4   6   4

Apple must be confident it has achieved the same or better sound quality, 
output, and input as the original HomePod with fewer tweeters and mics. It 
describes the HomePod 2 as offering “immersive, high-fidelity audio.”

Here’s how Apple describes the new HomePod 2 woofer:
“A high excursion woofer packs HomePod with deep, rich bass. Its powerful motor 
drives the diaphragm a remarkable 20 

Re: Updated Apple ID

[Joseph Hudson]

If this is happening on an iPhone, it will prompt you to update the settings by 
entering in the password for the Apple ID. Once this is done, you're all 
good.Until you clear the notification, it will continue to ask you.

> On Jan 18, 2023, at 1:54 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, a few weeks back I changed my Apple ID password, and since then I 
> often get messages popping up on each device. Repeatedly asking me to update 
> Apple ID settings, some services may not be available. Or messages saying a 
> new device has been added to my account and now has access to iMessage, if 
> you do not recognize this device, etc. 
> 
> Any idea why this keeps happening, or how I can stop it? I get why it would 
> initially ask me, but it continuously is asking.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Updated Apple ID

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, a few weeks back I changed my Apple ID password, and since then I often 
get messages popping up on each device. Repeatedly asking me to update Apple ID 
settings, some services may not be available. Or messages saying a new device 
has been added to my account and now has access to iMessage, if you do not 
recognize this device, etc. 

Any idea why this keeps happening, or how I can stop it? I get why it would 
initially ask me, but it continuously is asking.

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: When It Comes to iPhone, Are You All Thumbs?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I hold my phone in my right hand and use all my fingers on the left  to type, 
except the left thumb which I push to the downside where the charging port is.
/A

> 18 jan. 2023 kl. 07:55 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> A friend of mine and I got into a discussion about how we type in iOS, when
> sending text messages.
> 
> It started when she asked me if I use my thumbs to type.  Even though I know
> that a great many people use their thumbs to enter text on iPhone,
> personally I find the technique slow and awkward.
> 
> How do I enter text in iOS?
> 
> First, I keep my VoiceOver typing mode set to "Touch Typing."
> 
> Second, I use a folio case.  Not only does such a case cover the display
> when not in use, it also provides a nifty way to balance the phone in one
> hand, fingers-free.
> 
> When entering text, I open the case, kind of like a book, with the wallet
> side to the left and the phone to the right.  I position the phone case in
> the crook of my left hand (where the base of my thumb meets my hand) so that
> the back of the phone, in the case of course, is resting against the palm of
> my left hand, leaving all five digits on my left hand, free.  
> 
> The wallet side of the case acts as a kind of counter balance so that the
> phone does not slip out of my hand, even when the phone is tilted, off-axis,
> so to speak.
> 
> I use my left thumb to access the letters and numbers, located on the left
> side of the onscreen keyboard and the index finger of my right hand, to
> access the letters and numbers located on the right side of the onscreen
> keyboard.
> 
> I hold the phone in the exact same way when using Slide-to-Type; except in
> that instance, I use my right index finger, only.
> 
> Okay, that's my method for entering text on iPhone.  
> 
> How about you?  What technique do you use to enter text in iOS?
> 
> When it come to iPhone, are you all thumbs? (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: How can I insert my sig file to all outgoing emails?

[Bill Gallik]

Hey Maurice et al,

Establishing a signature block in the native MacOS e-mail client is not quite 
that straight-forward.  Personally, I now have about 200 signature files, but 
only about 2 dozen are configured to serve as feasible signatures.  Let explain:

First, while in the e-mail client you will want to select +<,> to 
place your self in the e-mail preferences.

At that point, you’ll need to open the tool bar, locate and select the 
“Signatures” tab.  Then leave the tool bar.

At this point you will find yourself in a dialog where you’ll be able to 
create, delete and edit signature tags.  That dialog should be reasonably 
self-explanatory, but if you have questions you can e-mail directly at:

wfgal...@gmail.com 

I’d go through the entire spiel but it does get somewhat complicated and I 
doubt most subscribers would have much interest.


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Re: When It Comes to iPhone, Are You All Thumbs?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On the phone, I generally use dictation to enter text messages, or sometimes 
the touch screen. I could also use a braille display for text entry, but I tend 
to use my braille display with my computers rather than with the phone.
At home, I often simply open the Messages app on the Mac and type the text 
there, instead of using the phone itself.

> On Jan 18, 2023, at 01:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> A friend of mine and I got into a discussion about how we type in iOS, when
> sending text messages.
> 
> It started when she asked me if I use my thumbs to type.  Even though I know
> that a great many people use their thumbs to enter text on iPhone,
> personally I find the technique slow and awkward.
> 
> How do I enter text in iOS?
> 
> First, I keep my VoiceOver typing mode set to "Touch Typing."
> 
> Second, I use a folio case.  Not only does such a case cover the display
> when not in use, it also provides a nifty way to balance the phone in one
> hand, fingers-free.
> 
> When entering text, I open the case, kind of like a book, with the wallet
> side to the left and the phone to the right.  I position the phone case in
> the crook of my left hand (where the base of my thumb meets my hand) so that
> the back of the phone, in the case of course, is resting against the palm of
> my left hand, leaving all five digits on my left hand, free.  
> 
> The wallet side of the case acts as a kind of counter balance so that the
> phone does not slip out of my hand, even when the phone is tilted, off-axis,
> so to speak.
> 
> I use my left thumb to access the letters and numbers, located on the left
> side of the onscreen keyboard and the index finger of my right hand, to
> access the letters and numbers located on the right side of the onscreen
> keyboard.
> 
> I hold the phone in the exact same way when using Slide-to-Type; except in
> that instance, I use my right index finger, only.
> 
> Okay, that's my method for entering text on iPhone.  
> 
> How about you?  What technique do you use to enter text in iOS?
> 
> When it come to iPhone, are you all thumbs? (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: When It Comes to iPhone, Are You All Thumbs?

[Angie Nutt]

For shortish stuff I hold my phone in my left hand and use one finger; I’m far 
from fast but I use the word predictions which works quite well for me. For 
longer stuff I use a qwerty bluetooth keyboard.

All the best
Angie

> On 18 Jan 2023, at 06:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> A friend of mine and I got into a discussion about how we type in iOS, when
> sending text messages.
> 
> It started when she asked me if I use my thumbs to type.  Even though I know
> that a great many people use their thumbs to enter text on iPhone,
> personally I find the technique slow and awkward.
> 
> How do I enter text in iOS?
> 
> First, I keep my VoiceOver typing mode set to "Touch Typing."
> 
> Second, I use a folio case.  Not only does such a case cover the display
> when not in use, it also provides a nifty way to balance the phone in one
> hand, fingers-free.
> 
> When entering text, I open the case, kind of like a book, with the wallet
> side to the left and the phone to the right.  I position the phone case in
> the crook of my left hand (where the base of my thumb meets my hand) so that
> the back of the phone, in the case of course, is resting against the palm of
> my left hand, leaving all five digits on my left hand, free.  
> 
> The wallet side of the case acts as a kind of counter balance so that the
> phone does not slip out of my hand, even when the phone is tilted, off-axis,
> so to speak.
> 
> I use my left thumb to access the letters and numbers, located on the left
> side of the onscreen keyboard and the index finger of my right hand, to
> access the letters and numbers located on the right side of the onscreen
> keyboard.
> 
> I hold the phone in the exact same way when using Slide-to-Type; except in
> that instance, I use my right index finger, only.
> 
> Okay, that's my method for entering text on iPhone.  
> 
> How about you?  What technique do you use to enter text in iOS?
> 
> When it come to iPhone, are you all thumbs? (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: When It Comes to iPhone, Are You All Thumbs?

[Suzanne Erb]

Hello,
I almost never use my thumbs to type.  My thumbs are rather small, so I 
primarily use my index finger to type.  Sometimes I type with my left hand, 
sometimes my right.  I always use touch typing.
When actually sending a text, I often use the dictate feature within 
the messages app itself, and then correct mistakes once it’s been typed.  I 
find that Siri works better sending texts within the messages app, rather than 
just asking her to send a text from outside the app.
Suzanne


> On Jan 18, 2023, at 01:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> A friend of mine and I got into a discussion about how we type in iOS, when
> sending text messages.
> 
> It started when she asked me if I use my thumbs to type.  Even though I know
> that a great many people use their thumbs to enter text on iPhone,
> personally I find the technique slow and awkward.
> 
> How do I enter text in iOS?
> 
> First, I keep my VoiceOver typing mode set to "Touch Typing."
> 
> Second, I use a folio case.  Not only does such a case cover the display
> when not in use, it also provides a nifty way to balance the phone in one
> hand, fingers-free.
> 
> When entering text, I open the case, kind of like a book, with the wallet
> side to the left and the phone to the right.  I position the phone case in
> the crook of my left hand (where the base of my thumb meets my hand) so that
> the back of the phone, in the case of course, is resting against the palm of
> my left hand, leaving all five digits on my left hand, free.  
> 
> The wallet side of the case acts as a kind of counter balance so that the
> phone does not slip out of my hand, even when the phone is tilted, off-axis,
> so to speak.
> 
> I use my left thumb to access the letters and numbers, located on the left
> side of the onscreen keyboard and the index finger of my right hand, to
> access the letters and numbers located on the right side of the onscreen
> keyboard.
> 
> I hold the phone in the exact same way when using Slide-to-Type; except in
> that instance, I use my right index finger, only.
> 
> Okay, that's my method for entering text on iPhone.  
> 
> How about you?  What technique do you use to enter text in iOS?
> 
> When it come to iPhone, are you all thumbs? (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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