Re: Twitter bands third party apps.

2023-01-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
The policy change is dated for 27 Jan, that means anything working today, 
will  not be working for long.




On Fri, 27 Jan 2023, Herbie Allen wrote:


It’s been that way for a week. Some things are still working though like 
Tweesecake and TWBlue.


On Jan 27, 2023, at 11:06, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Its official, see the article below.
  #TechCrunch » Feed TechCrunch » Comments Feed TechCrunch » Twitter
  officially bans third-party clients after cutting off prominent devs
  Comments Feed alternate alternate alternate

Twitter officially bans third-party clients after cutting off prominent devs

  Kyle Wiggers 1 week

  After cutting off prominent app makers like Tweetbot and Twitterific,
  Twitter today quietly updated its developer terms to ban third-party
  clients altogether.

  Spotted by Engadget, the "restrictions" section of Twitter's
  5,000-some-word developer agreement was updated with a clause
  prohibiting "use or access the Licensed Materials to create or attempt
  to create a substitute or similar service or product to the Twitter
  Applications." Earlier this week, Twitter said that it was "enforcing
  long-standing API rules" in disallowing clients access to its platform
  but didn't cite which specific rules developers were violating. Now we
  know -- retroactively.

  As Engadget notes, Twitter clients are a part of Twitter history --
  Twitterific was created before Twitter had a native iOS app of its own.
  And they've gained a larger following in recent years, thanks in part
  to their lack of ads.

  Twitter's attitude toward third-party clients has long been permissive
  and even supportive, with the company going so far as to remove a
  section from its developer terms that discouraged devs from replicating
  its core service. But that seems to have changed under CEO Elon Musk's
  leadership.

  Twitter dev terms

  Image Credits: Twitter

  The decision seems unlikely to foster goodwill toward Twitter at a time
  when the platform faces challenges on a number of fronts. In a blog
  post, Twitterrific's Sean Heber called Twitter "increasingly
  capricious" and a company he "no longer recognize[d] as trustworthy nor
  want to work with any longer." Matteo Villa, the developer of Fenix, in
  an interview with Engadget called the lack of communication
  "insulting." (Twitter has no communications department at present.)

  Twitter is under immense pressure to turn a profit -- or at least break
  even -- as advertisers flee the platform, spurred by unpredictable,
  fast-changing content policies. The company, which has $12.5 billion in
  debt, is on the hook for $300 million in its first interest payment and
  has lost an estimated $4 billion in value since Musk acquired it at the
  end of October 2022. Fidelity recently slashed the value of its stake
  in Twitter by 56%.

  Cutbacks at Twitter abound. Some employees are bringing their own
  toilet paper to work after the company reduced janitorial services, the
  New York Times reported, and Twitter has stopped paying rent for
  several of its offices. Musk has elsewhere attempted to save around
  $500 million in costs unrelated to labor, shutting down a data center
  and launching a fire sale after putting office items up for auction in
  a bid to recoup costs.

  Twitter's also heavily pushing its Twitter Blue plan (now with an
  annual option), aiming to make it a profit driver. It plans to lift its
  ban on political ads, chasing after campaign dollars in the 2024 U.S.
  elections. And the company is reportedly considering selling usernames
  through online auctions.

  


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RE: Excel and Mac OS 13

2023-01-27 Thread Fazil M.
I am using Eloquence too on MacbookPro2017  and Voiceover is reading the entire 
contents of the table with no Problem.
Thanks!

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Subject: Excel and Mac OS 13

Hi,

A bit ago I asked if anyone else was having issues with Excel and Mac OS 13 
where the content of cells was not being read as you navigated.  I’ve made an 
interesting discovery on this.

I use Eloquence as my synthesizer on Mac OS 13 and with any of those voices in 
use, as I arrow from cell to cell, nothing is read.  However, if I switch back 
to a voice such as Samantha, cell contents are indeed read.

I’m now even more curious what others are finding.

I am doing this on an M1 Mac.

Kelly

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Excel and Mac OS 13

2023-01-27 Thread Kelly Ford
Hi,

A bit ago I asked if anyone else was having issues with Excel and Mac OS 13 
where the content of cells was not being read as you navigated.  I’ve made an 
interesting discovery on this.

I use Eloquence as my synthesizer on Mac OS 13 and with any of those voices in 
use, as I arrow from cell to cell, nothing is read.  However, if I switch back 
to a voice such as Samantha, cell contents are indeed read.

I’m now even more curious what others are finding.

I am doing this on an M1 Mac.

Kelly

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How to set up an all junk mail box IOS 16.3

2023-01-27 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello,
I am running IOS 16.3 on my iPhone SE 2020. I have 3 Email accounts and have 
set up mail boxes for all inboxes, all sent,  all drafts, all trash, and all 
archive. I did this some time ago on a different level os IOS and have 
forgotten how I did it.
I would really like an all junk mail box. I did a duckduckgo search on how to 
do this and am confused by the results. It seems that it is possible but I 
cannot find out how.
Have any listers done this and if so how?
Many thanks and best regards … Paul Hopewell

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Re: Twitter bands third party apps.

2023-01-27 Thread Herbie Allen
It’s been that way for a week. Some things are still working though like 
Tweesecake and TWBlue.

> On Jan 27, 2023, at 11:06, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Its official, see the article below.
>   #TechCrunch » Feed TechCrunch » Comments Feed TechCrunch » Twitter
>   officially bans third-party clients after cutting off prominent devs
>   Comments Feed alternate alternate alternate
> 
> Twitter officially bans third-party clients after cutting off prominent devs
> 
>   Kyle Wiggers 1 week
> 
>   After cutting off prominent app makers like Tweetbot and Twitterific,
>   Twitter today quietly updated its developer terms to ban third-party
>   clients altogether.
> 
>   Spotted by Engadget, the "restrictions" section of Twitter's
>   5,000-some-word developer agreement was updated with a clause
>   prohibiting "use or access the Licensed Materials to create or attempt
>   to create a substitute or similar service or product to the Twitter
>   Applications." Earlier this week, Twitter said that it was "enforcing
>   long-standing API rules" in disallowing clients access to its platform
>   but didn't cite which specific rules developers were violating. Now we
>   know -- retroactively.
> 
>   As Engadget notes, Twitter clients are a part of Twitter history --
>   Twitterific was created before Twitter had a native iOS app of its own.
>   And they've gained a larger following in recent years, thanks in part
>   to their lack of ads.
> 
>   Twitter's attitude toward third-party clients has long been permissive
>   and even supportive, with the company going so far as to remove a
>   section from its developer terms that discouraged devs from replicating
>   its core service. But that seems to have changed under CEO Elon Musk's
>   leadership.
> 
>   Twitter dev terms
> 
>   Image Credits: Twitter
> 
>   The decision seems unlikely to foster goodwill toward Twitter at a time
>   when the platform faces challenges on a number of fronts. In a blog
>   post, Twitterrific's Sean Heber called Twitter "increasingly
>   capricious" and a company he "no longer recognize[d] as trustworthy nor
>   want to work with any longer." Matteo Villa, the developer of Fenix, in
>   an interview with Engadget called the lack of communication
>   "insulting." (Twitter has no communications department at present.)
> 
>   Twitter is under immense pressure to turn a profit -- or at least break
>   even -- as advertisers flee the platform, spurred by unpredictable,
>   fast-changing content policies. The company, which has $12.5 billion in
>   debt, is on the hook for $300 million in its first interest payment and
>   has lost an estimated $4 billion in value since Musk acquired it at the
>   end of October 2022. Fidelity recently slashed the value of its stake
>   in Twitter by 56%.
> 
>   Cutbacks at Twitter abound. Some employees are bringing their own
>   toilet paper to work after the company reduced janitorial services, the
>   New York Times reported, and Twitter has stopped paying rent for
>   several of its offices. Musk has elsewhere attempted to save around
>   $500 million in costs unrelated to labor, shutting down a data center
>   and launching a fire sale after putting office items up for auction in
>   a bid to recoup costs.
> 
>   Twitter's also heavily pushing its Twitter Blue plan (now with an
>   annual option), aiming to make it a profit driver. It plans to lift its
>   ban on political ads, chasing after campaign dollars in the 2024 U.S.
>   elections. And the company is reportedly considering selling usernames
>   through online auctions.
> 
>   

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Twitter bands third party apps.

2023-01-27 Thread Karen Lewellen

Its official, see the article below.
   #TechCrunch ? Feed TechCrunch ? Comments Feed TechCrunch ? Twitter
   officially bans third-party clients after cutting off prominent devs
   Comments Feed alternate alternate alternate

Twitter officially bans third-party clients after cutting off prominent devs

   Kyle Wiggers 1 week

   After cutting off prominent app makers like Tweetbot and Twitterific,
   Twitter today quietly updated its developer terms to ban third-party
   clients altogether.

   Spotted by Engadget, the "restrictions" section of Twitter's
   5,000-some-word developer agreement was updated with a clause
   prohibiting "use or access the Licensed Materials to create or attempt
   to create a substitute or similar service or product to the Twitter
   Applications." Earlier this week, Twitter said that it was "enforcing
   long-standing API rules" in disallowing clients access to its platform
   but didn't cite which specific rules developers were violating. Now we
   know -- retroactively.

   As Engadget notes, Twitter clients are a part of Twitter history --
   Twitterific was created before Twitter had a native iOS app of its own.
   And they've gained a larger following in recent years, thanks in part
   to their lack of ads.

   Twitter's attitude toward third-party clients has long been permissive
   and even supportive, with the company going so far as to remove a
   section from its developer terms that discouraged devs from replicating
   its core service. But that seems to have changed under CEO Elon Musk's
   leadership.

   Twitter dev terms

   Image Credits: Twitter

   The decision seems unlikely to foster goodwill toward Twitter at a time
   when the platform faces challenges on a number of fronts. In a blog
   post, Twitterrific's Sean Heber called Twitter "increasingly
   capricious" and a company he "no longer recognize[d] as trustworthy nor
   want to work with any longer." Matteo Villa, the developer of Fenix, in
   an interview with Engadget called the lack of communication
   "insulting." (Twitter has no communications department at present.)

   Twitter is under immense pressure to turn a profit -- or at least break
   even -- as advertisers flee the platform, spurred by unpredictable,
   fast-changing content policies. The company, which has $12.5 billion in
   debt, is on the hook for $300 million in its first interest payment and
   has lost an estimated $4 billion in value since Musk acquired it at the
   end of October 2022. Fidelity recently slashed the value of its stake
   in Twitter by 56%.

   Cutbacks at Twitter abound. Some employees are bringing their own
   toilet paper to work after the company reduced janitorial services, the
   New York Times reported, and Twitter has stopped paying rent for
   several of its offices. Musk has elsewhere attempted to save around
   $500 million in costs unrelated to labor, shutting down a data center
   and launching a fire sale after putting office items up for auction in
   a bid to recoup costs.

   Twitter's also heavily pushing its Twitter Blue plan (now with an
   annual option), aiming to make it a profit driver. It plans to lift its
   ban on political ads, chasing after campaign dollars in the 2024 U.S.
   elections. And the company is reportedly considering selling usernames
   through online auctions.

   


Re: Accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver

2023-01-27 Thread lenron brown
Interacting makes my head hurt. I will try some of these things
mentioned. I will do my best to stay positive about the journey. Maybe
the third time is the charm. Any tips on dealing with the file system?
Moving files around and installing things that are not in the app
store?

On 1/26/23, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> One thing that I had difficulties getting used to was this interacting
> thing.
> Its very much different from how jaws or similar presents the screen.
> /A
>
>> 25 jan. 2023 kl. 19:51 skrev Herbie Allen :
>>
>> I think overall the Mac is more accessible! Is it perfect? No, there are
>> some things that could be better. But things like making websites
>> accessible will go a long way. I feel like the main reason people s
>> struggle is they don’t know VO Shortcuts. I am also a Jaws user and I
>> think the Mac is much better!.
>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:56, Tibor Niesner  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
>>> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
>>> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
>>> accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Best regard
>>>
>>> Tibor Niesner
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Fwd: amazing slow downer on iPhone running iOS 16 point X

2023-01-27 Thread Marlene Kramer
hi,
I am forwarding the following message as I am curious about the accessibility 
of this application on the iPhone.
Thanks. Marlene



Begin forwarded message:



>> hi,
>> I have used amazing slow downer for a number of years with success. I use it 
>> exclusively on an iPhone. I currently have an iPhone 13 promax.
>> with the introduction of iOS 16.0, slider behavior has been non-functional. 
>> For my use case, this means I cannot adjust pitch, speed, or loop start and 
>> stop times with the precision I would like.
>> I have contacted the developer several times. He can reproduce this problem. 
>> He has sent bug reports to Apple for both the iOS 16.1 and iOS 16.2 
>> versions. The problem has not yet been fixed in iOS 16.3.
>> I spoke with Apple Accessibility last evening. They were able to get amazing 
>> slow downer to work, I believe on an iPhone running 16.3.
>> today, the developer says he has no additional solutions to offer, other 
>> than finding an iPhone 6 which updates to the most recent iOS 12. The 
>> program works well on iPad I am told.
>> in short, does anyone here use amazing slow downer on an iPhone running iOS 
>> 16.X? If so, can you report on slider behavior? Any suggestions you may be 
>> able to put forward as to further steps?
>> thanks much in advance. Keith
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