Re: Redirecting Just VoiceOver Audio From Apple TV

2023-04-21 Thread Kelly Ford 
Hi All,

I appreciate the thoughtful replies here. If I wasn't clear, the connection 
from my Apple TV to my television itself works fine. In fact when the audio 
quits working on the sound bar, I turn up the TV speaker and then I can hear 
the audio as I navigate Apple TV just fine. I’m just tired of having to do this.

I’m fairly certain the issue is something about the digital optical signal and 
or connection between the TV and the sound bar. I’ve tried multiple items to 
resolve this and the issue itself isn’t unique to Apple TV. I’ve had Roku and 
FireTV in the mix as well with the same challenge.

At this point I’m just going to explore routing the VoiceOver audio itself if 
as people say, that’s possible.

If media is playing on the Apple TV, the entire system works fine. So I’m 
guessing something in the mix is cutting off the signal, again either in the 
sound bar or the optical out.  I may continue to try and debug that but want to 
solve this immediate problem.

I’m guessing it is the sound bar in some fashion because I have pretty much the 
identical TV and Apple TV in a second location connected to a different full 
audio tuner for my surround sound environment and don’t have this problem.

I appreciate the thoughtful replies.

Kelly


> On Apr 21, 2023, at 10:46 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Kelly,
> 
> You ask an interesting question.  The short answer is, "yes," you can direct 
> VoiceOver audio to a different sound destination; however, I don't think that 
> is the problem, in your situation.
> 
> I am going to provide the broad strokes as to how you might begin to resolve 
> your current issue.  Keep in mind that I am writing in extremely general 
> terms.
> 
> 1.
> Your Apple TV should be connected to your Samsung TV via an HDMI cable.  In 
> the best-case scenario, Apple TV should be connected to the Samsung via an 
> HDMI (ARC) cable (to an HDMI ARC port) but it is not necessary.  A standard 
> HDMI connection is just fine.  In the simplest HDMI connection, you should be 
> able to hear VoiceOver through the built-in speaker on your Samsung TV as you 
> would hear it in iOS and on the Mac.  Be certain that this is working before 
> you attempt to connect a sound bar to the Samsung Tv.
> 
> 2.
> Assuming that the above scenario is working as expected, you may now connect 
> a sound bar.  The type of connection you will use to connect the Samsung TV 
> to the sound bar will greatly depend upon (1) the type of audio ports that 
> are available on the Samsung TV and (2) the type of audio ports that are 
> available on the sound bar.  Obviously, I cannot describe all of the 
> possibilities that may or may not be available to you but I can tell you that 
> one of the simplest solutions would be to connect the Samsung TV to the sound 
> bar via an optical digital audio cable.  In many instances, such a solution 
> would allow you to hear audio from both the Samsung TV built-in speaker and 
> the sound bar, simultaneously with the ability to adjust the volume of each, 
> independently.
> 
> Ultimately, you will have to study the instruction manual for both your 
> Samsung TV and sound bar for the best results but the scenario in number 2, 
> listed above, is definitely a good place to begin.
> 
> I hope this helps and happy listening.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Kelly Ford
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 5:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Redirecting Just VoiceOver Audio From Apple TV
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For some reason, if my Apple TV is not playing media, VoiceOver speech is 
> often not played. I don’t think it is a problem with my Apple TV itself but 
> rather the Samsung TV and how it sends audio to a sound bar I have connected.
> 
> Anyway, does anyone know if you can direct just the VoiceOver audio to a 
> different sound source from the Apple TV?  I was thinking of setting up a 
> specific speaker for just this or trying even a Bluetooth headset.
> 
> Kelly
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RE: Redirecting Just VoiceOver Audio From Apple TV

2023-04-21 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Kelly,

You ask an interesting question.  The short answer is, "yes," you can direct 
VoiceOver audio to a different sound destination; however, I don't think that 
is the problem, in your situation.

I am going to provide the broad strokes as to how you might begin to resolve 
your current issue.  Keep in mind that I am writing in extremely general terms.

1.
Your Apple TV should be connected to your Samsung TV via an HDMI cable.  In the 
best-case scenario, Apple TV should be connected to the Samsung via an HDMI 
(ARC) cable (to an HDMI ARC port) but it is not necessary.  A standard HDMI 
connection is just fine.  In the simplest HDMI connection, you should be able 
to hear VoiceOver through the built-in speaker on your Samsung TV as you would 
hear it in iOS and on the Mac.  Be certain that this is working before you 
attempt to connect a sound bar to the Samsung Tv.

2.
Assuming that the above scenario is working as expected, you may now connect a 
sound bar.  The type of connection you will use to connect the Samsung TV to 
the sound bar will greatly depend upon (1) the type of audio ports that are 
available on the Samsung TV and (2) the type of audio ports that are available 
on the sound bar.  Obviously, I cannot describe all of the possibilities that 
may or may not be available to you but I can tell you that one of the simplest 
solutions would be to connect the Samsung TV to the sound bar via an optical 
digital audio cable.  In many instances, such a solution would allow you to 
hear audio from both the Samsung TV built-in speaker and the sound bar, 
simultaneously with the ability to adjust the volume of each, independently.

Ultimately, you will have to study the instruction manual for both your Samsung 
TV and sound bar for the best results but the scenario in number 2, listed 
above, is definitely a good place to begin.

I hope this helps and happy listening.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kelly Ford
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 5:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Redirecting Just VoiceOver Audio From Apple TV

Hi,

For some reason, if my Apple TV is not playing media, VoiceOver speech is often 
not played. I don’t think it is a problem with my Apple TV itself but rather 
the Samsung TV and how it sends audio to a sound bar I have connected.

Anyway, does anyone know if you can direct just the VoiceOver audio to a 
different sound source from the Apple TV?  I was thinking of setting up a 
specific speaker for just this or trying even a Bluetooth headset.

Kelly

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Re: Redirecting Just VoiceOver Audio From Apple TV

2023-04-21 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
I am having a similar problem. For me, I get no audio on Apple-plus and 
Disney-Plus programming since moving to my new home.
I also use an Apple TV 4K with a TLC 4k TV hooked up to a sound bar using 
HDMI-R to connect the sound bar to the TV.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 21, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For some reason, if my Apple TV is not playing media, VoiceOver speech is 
> often not played. I don’t think it is a problem with my Apple TV itself but 
> rather the Samsung TV and how it sends audio to a sound bar I have connected.
> 
> Anyway, does anyone know if you can direct just the VoiceOver audio to a 
> different sound source from the Apple TV?  I was thinking of setting up a 
> specific speaker for just this or trying even a Bluetooth headset.
> 
> Kelly
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Redirecting Just VoiceOver Audio From Apple TV

2023-04-21 Thread Kelly Ford 
Hi,

For some reason, if my Apple TV is not playing media, VoiceOver speech is often 
not played. I don’t think it is a problem with my Apple TV itself but rather 
the Samsung TV and how it sends audio to a sound bar I have connected.

Anyway, does anyone know if you can direct just the VoiceOver audio to a 
different sound source from the Apple TV?  I was thinking of setting up a 
specific speaker for just this or trying even a Bluetooth headset.

Kelly

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Re: Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction

2023-04-21 Thread Brad Snyder 
I think VO plus N is faster.

- Brad -

On Apr 21, 2023, at 14:58, Herbie Allen  wrote:

VO O will get you to your notification center. From there, find your 
notification and you can do a VO Command Space for the actions menu. 

> On Apr 21, 2023, at 14:32, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I usually press VO+N which brings up the list of notifications and press 
> enter on it which will then allow me to press VO+shift+space to bring up the 
> acctions menu and deal with it.  HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 2:55 PM
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> Subject: Re: Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction
> 
> I also have trouble with this. sometimes we have to try 2 or 3 times before 
> we can get it to work. I don’t have a solution but I do have the same problem.
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Marlene Kramer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> On the several occasions I have attempted to obtain help from Apple 
>> Accessibility in the past several months, the screen share has failed 
>> because the notification times out before I can take the necessary actions.
>> Is there any way to solve this problem?
>> Thanks. Marlene.
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Re: Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction

2023-04-21 Thread Herbie Allen 
VO O will get you to your notification center. From there, find your 
notification and you can do a VO Command Space for the actions menu. 

> On Apr 21, 2023, at 14:32, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I usually press VO+N which brings up the list of notifications and press 
> enter on it which will then allow me to press VO+shift+space to bring up the 
> acctions menu and deal with it.  HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 2:55 PM
> To: via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction
> 
> I also have trouble with this. sometimes we have to try 2 or 3 times before 
> we can get it to work. I don’t have a solution but I do have the same problem.
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Marlene Kramer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> On the several occasions I have attempted to obtain help from Apple 
>> Accessibility in the past several months, the screen share has failed 
>> because the notification times out before I can take the necessary actions.
>> Is there any way to solve this problem?
>> Thanks. Marlene.
>> 
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RE: Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction

2023-04-21 Thread ilovecountrymusic483 
Hi,

I usually press VO+N which brings up the list of notifications and press enter 
on it which will then allow me to press VO+shift+space to bring up the acctions 
menu and deal with it.  HTH.

Matthew



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Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 2:55 PM
To: via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction

I also have trouble with this. sometimes we have to try 2 or 3 times before we 
can get it to work. I don’t have a solution but I do have the same problem.

> On Apr 21, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Marlene Kramer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> On the several occasions I have attempted to obtain help from Apple 
> Accessibility in the past several months, the screen share has failed because 
> the notification times out before I can take the necessary actions.
> Is there any way to solve this problem?
> Thanks. Marlene.
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Re: Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction

2023-04-21 Thread Lorie McCloud 
I also have trouble with this. sometimes we have to try 2 or 3 times before we 
can get it to work. I don’t have a solution but I do have the same problem.

> On Apr 21, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Marlene Kramer  
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> Hi,
> On the several occasions I have attempted to obtain help from Apple 
> Accessibility in the past several months, the screen share has failed because 
> the notification times out before I can take the necessary actions.
> Is there any way to solve this problem?
> Thanks. Marlene.
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Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction

2023-04-21 Thread Marlene Kramer 
Hi,
On the several occasions I have attempted to obtain help from Apple 
Accessibility in the past several months, the screen share has failed because 
the notification times out before I can take the necessary actions.
Is there any way to solve this problem?
Thanks. Marlene.

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Re: Hide Apps in Mac App Store

2023-04-21 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 

Cathy,
   Thanks for the feedback. Apple is now aware of the bug so I expect 
it will be addressed someday.


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On 4/20/2023 4:22 AM, 'Candie Bridges' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi.

I’m not sure if this will help. I have no one sighted to ask.
When looking at the App Store on the Mac, I simply cannot find this 
button or anything like it - no options at all, except to open or 
redownload a specific app. I tried interacting, but got the same 
results. I am unable to say whether this was the same in a previous OS, 
because it is not something I have looked for. I’m running the latest 
MacOS version.


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On 20 Apr 2023, at 00:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Herbie,
  Your choice. ALL I want is to confirm if anyone sees the bloody 
"More" button or not. Simple.


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On 4/19/2023 2:07 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
I don’t have access to one, and not sure that’s a feature I would use 
anyway. I prefer to see my past purchases in case I need to for any 
reason.
On Apr 19, 2023, at 15:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  Let me explain what I am talking about. Apple provides a way to 
"hide"apps on Mac and iPhone. When one uninstalls an app that one 
purchased from either app store, one can choose to remove them from 
the lists of apps.


  This is easy to do on the iPhone/iPad. The ability to do this on 
the Mac IS available, just not accessible with Voiceover. Grab a 
sighted person to confirm this.


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On 4/19/2023 12:36 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:
I have a details section where all my apps are listed.  I have to 
go into the group where it says my name and it’s in there.  This is 
a 2020 M1 running Ventura 13.3.1.  A couple levels of interaction, 
but it’s all there.

Hope this helps.
On Apr 18, 2023, at 11:30 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  That is not what I am looking for. If you uninstall an app, you 
can hide it. This done bu going into Purchased and navigating to 
the More button. Clicking it brings up a menu which has a Hide option.


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On 4/18/2023 9:24 AM, Herbie Allen wrote:
I have a details section regardless of whether the app is on my 
Mac or not. Running a 2019 Intel Mac with the latest Intel.
On Apr 18, 2023, at 10:30, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Hello all,
  I would like someone who is running Ventura to go into the Mac 
App Store, and in the Purchased section of your account, and see 
if any of your apps has a More button that Voiceover announces. 
It should be next to the re-download button. Thanks, its 
appreciated.


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