Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Hey Mark. Neural TTS was introduced back in iOS 13 and it's only available for the Siri voice. It was pretty cool when Apple showed it off. At WWDC they did a comparison between the normal sounding Siri voice and the same Siri voice that was using Neural TTS. If you listen carefully, you'll notice that the second version of the voice sounds more human than the normal concatenated version. That's Neural Text To Speech. I was going to send a link to a video showing you what I mean but it looks like Youtube has taken those videos down. Regards Shawn Sent from Diva, the M1 MacBook Air To join my Whatsapp groups such as Tech Zone and Mac Users and Newbies, please message me and I'll add you. Follow me on Mastodon at bbsshawnontwitch@disabled.social Follow me on Facebook by searching for Shawn Krasniuk > On May 31, 2023, at 10:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Great hearing your ideas, Shawn. > > You do have me at a disadvantage, however. I don't know what you mean when > you say Neural TTS engines. I did not know they even existed, at least, not > as such. > > What exactly is a Neural TTS? Is that Alex? > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: bbsshawn via MacVisionaries > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:26 PM > To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark > > Hey Mark. Welcome back. Well for me I bought my M1 MacBook Air at the > beginning of the month and I'm still in love with her. I named her Diva. I > named her after a certain girl I'm interested in. I don't have a lot of > features I'd like to see, just a few fixes I'd like to see across all > devices. First for the new macOS I'd like to see them bring back the ability > to use the Neural TTS versions of the Siri voices with Voiceover. Why they > took that feature away from us in Ventura is beyond me. That's why I > downgraded this thing back to Monterey because Neural TTS beats the regular > voices. They sound so real and I love it. > For iOS 17 I'd like to see them bring back the Premium Zoe voice. I know when > iOS 16.0 was first in beta we had the voice but there were so many problems > with it that they took it away and now all we have is the enhanced version > of that voice which doesn't really sound that great. I'm using the Tom voice > for that reason and don't get me wrong, he's ok, but Zoe Premium is better. > I guess I kinda lied about not having any features I'd like to see added. In > iOS 17 I'd love to be able to use the Neural TTS Siri voices with Voiceover. > That's all though. Anyway, glad to see you're doing well Mark. > > Regards > Shawn > Sent from Diva, the M1 MacBook Air > To join my Whatsapp groups such as Tech Zone and Mac Users and Newbies, > please message me and I'll add you. > Follow me on Mastodon at bbsshawnontwitch@disabled.social Follow me on > Facebook by searching for Shawn Krasniuk > > > >> On May 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Violet Gill wrote: >> >> Hello, I am enjoying my Mac mini M1 and my iPhone 14 promax. I think the >> best thing I will want to see for iOS 17 is it to be more stable iOS 16 was >> very very buggy in the earlier versions. Hopefully iOS 17 will be much >> better. >> >> >> >> Violet. >> She/her. >> >>> On May 31, 2023, at 12:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mark, >>> Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be >>> made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially >>> Voiceover voices. >>> >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent >>> revolution inevitable." >>> --John F. Kennedy >>> My e-Mail: >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple devices. I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders. Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to see introduced next week? I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. Moderator Mark >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archiv
RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Great hearing your ideas, Shawn. You do have me at a disadvantage, however. I don't know what you mean when you say Neural TTS engines. I did not know they even existed, at least, not as such. What exactly is a Neural TTS? Is that Alex? Mark -Original Message- From: bbsshawn via MacVisionaries Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:26 PM To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark Hey Mark. Welcome back. Well for me I bought my M1 MacBook Air at the beginning of the month and I'm still in love with her. I named her Diva. I named her after a certain girl I'm interested in. I don't have a lot of features I'd like to see, just a few fixes I'd like to see across all devices. First for the new macOS I'd like to see them bring back the ability to use the Neural TTS versions of the Siri voices with Voiceover. Why they took that feature away from us in Ventura is beyond me. That's why I downgraded this thing back to Monterey because Neural TTS beats the regular voices. They sound so real and I love it. For iOS 17 I'd like to see them bring back the Premium Zoe voice. I know when iOS 16.0 was first in beta we had the voice but there were so many problems with it that they took it away and now all we have is the enhanced version of that voice which doesn't really sound that great. I'm using the Tom voice for that reason and don't get me wrong, he's ok, but Zoe Premium is better. I guess I kinda lied about not having any features I'd like to see added. In iOS 17 I'd love to be able to use the Neural TTS Siri voices with Voiceover. That's all though. Anyway, glad to see you're doing well Mark. Regards Shawn Sent from Diva, the M1 MacBook Air To join my Whatsapp groups such as Tech Zone and Mac Users and Newbies, please message me and I'll add you. Follow me on Mastodon at bbsshawnontwitch@disabled.social Follow me on Facebook by searching for Shawn Krasniuk > On May 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Violet Gill wrote: > > Hello, I am enjoying my Mac mini M1 and my iPhone 14 promax. I think the best > thing I will want to see for iOS 17 is it to be more stable iOS 16 was very > very buggy in the earlier versions. Hopefully iOS 17 will be much better. > > > > Violet. > She/her. > >> On May 31, 2023, at 12:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi Mark, >> Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be >> made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially >> Voiceover voices. >> >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent >> revolution inevitable." >> --John F. Kennedy >> My e-Mail: >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >>> On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> Hello Everyone, >>> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list >>> so just wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing >>> with their Apple devices. >>> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. >>> You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the >>> OS is the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into >>> folders. >>> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would >>> like to see introduced next week? >>> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. >>> Moderator Mark >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for t
RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
You know, Violet, whenever I install a newer version of the OS, what I hope for, most of all, is for VoiceOver functionality not to be reduced or broken. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Violet Gill Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: M. Taylor Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark Hello, I am enjoying my Mac mini M1 and my iPhone 14 promax. I think the best thing I will want to see for iOS 17 is it to be more stable iOS 16 was very very buggy in the earlier versions. Hopefully iOS 17 will be much better. Violet. She/her. > On May 31, 2023, at 12:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Mark, > Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be > made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially > Voiceover voices. > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent > revolution inevitable." > --John F. Kennedy > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so >> just wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with >> their Apple devices. >> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. >> You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the >> OS is the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into >> folders. >> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would >> like to see introduced next week? >> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. >> Moderator Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8908AC4C-E319-40A8-975F-1B3C841B1422%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/003901d99434%24ab40a110%2401c1e330%24%40ucla.edu.
RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Hi Donna. I agree with you and, yes, one should be able to play a workout to an audio-only device. I am so surprised that this is not the case. Mark -Original Message- From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark The features Tracy mentioned would be nice, but ET also makes a good point. So, my wishlist would be: Fix focus issues in IOS. I find it very slippy. Fix Voices in IOS. For me, they keep cutting in and out. Add feature in Fitness that allows workouts to be played to an audio only device such as a HomePod. Currently Fitness requires you to select a video output source, so the only way to play a workout to a HomePod is to do it through the Control Center, which is kind of a pain. Cheers, Donna > On May 31, 2023, at 11:22 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Mark, > Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be > made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially > Voiceover voices. > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent > revolution inevitable." > --John F. Kennedy > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so >> just wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with >> their Apple devices. >> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. >> You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the >> OS is the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into >> folders. >> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would >> like to see introduced next week? >> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. >> Moderator Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C869D4B2-5E56-4FB0-9239-6BA7802DB4B3%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/003501d99433%2428fa1020%247aee3060%24%40ucla.edu.
RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Hi Suzanne, I, too, am looking forward to WWDC but I hope they don't get too bogged down in the details. I mean, I really don't care how many nano seconds they have saved off of 10 trillion simultaneous calculations. (smile). Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Suzanne Erb Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:30 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark Hello, I don’t have any real preference for new features, but I would like to see stability, particularly in terms of Braille and SiRI. Looking forward to WWDC, as always. Suzanne > On May 31, 2023, at 12:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Mark, > Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be > made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially > Voiceover voices. > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent > revolution inevitable." > --John F. Kennedy > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so >> just wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with >> their Apple devices. >> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. >> You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the >> OS is the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into >> folders. >> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would >> like to see introduced next week? >> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. >> Moderator Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BC2B704D-BB68-4E41-ABE2-1CDEA5BFFBAD%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/003101d99432%24f4889e10%24dd99da30%24%40ucla.edu.
RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
I completely agree with you, my friend. You are absolutely right. Mark -Original Message- From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; M. Taylor Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark Hi Mark, Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially Voiceover voices. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --John F. Kennedy My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just > wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple > devices. > > I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. > > You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is > the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders. > > > Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to > see introduced next week? > > I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. > > Moderator Mark > > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/002f01d99432%24868e2b00%2493aa8100%24%40ucla.edu.
RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
You are quite right, Traci. I am not a huge fan of the rotor. I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea. Sometimes, I wish I had an engineering mind. (smile). Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Traci Duncan Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:20 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark Hello, 2 little things I’ve thought would be useful: A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button. A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful. Those are two little things off the top of my head. :) Take care, Traci > On May 31, 2023, at 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so > just wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with > their Apple devices. > > I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. > > You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the > OS is the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into > folders. > > > Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would > like to see introduced next week? > > I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. > > Moderator Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/002d01d993d0%246dc3a800%24494af800%24%40ucla.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D1B8E6A7-2BF9-42E3-A18E-207F55B8BA68%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000a01d99431%249a6e79a0%24cf4b6ce0%24%40ucla.edu.
Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Hey Mark. Welcome back. Well for me I bought my M1 MacBook Air at the beginning of the month and I'm still in love with her. I named her Diva. I named her after a certain girl I'm interested in. I don't have a lot of features I'd like to see, just a few fixes I'd like to see across all devices. First for the new macOS I'd like to see them bring back the ability to use the Neural TTS versions of the Siri voices with Voiceover. Why they took that feature away from us in Ventura is beyond me. That's why I downgraded this thing back to Monterey because Neural TTS beats the regular voices. They sound so real and I love it. For iOS 17 I'd like to see them bring back the Premium Zoe voice. I know when iOS 16.0 was first in beta we had the voice but there were so many problems with it that they took it away and now all we have is the enhanced version of that voice which doesn't really sound that great. I'm using the Tom voice for that reason and don't get me wrong, he's ok, but Zoe Premium is better. I guess I kinda lied about not having any features I'd like to see added. In iOS 17 I'd love to be able to use the Neural TTS Siri voices with Voiceover. That's all though. Anyway, glad to see you're doing well Mark. Regards Shawn Sent from Diva, the M1 MacBook Air To join my Whatsapp groups such as Tech Zone and Mac Users and Newbies, please message me and I'll add you. Follow me on Mastodon at bbsshawnontwitch@disabled.social Follow me on Facebook by searching for Shawn Krasniuk > On May 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Violet Gill wrote: > > Hello, I am enjoying my Mac mini M1 and my iPhone 14 promax. I think the best > thing I will want to see for iOS 17 is it to be more stable iOS 16 was very > very buggy in the earlier versions. Hopefully iOS 17 will be much better. > > > > Violet. > She/her. > >> On May 31, 2023, at 12:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi Mark, >> Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be >> made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially >> Voiceover voices. >> >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible >> will make violent revolution inevitable." >> --John F. Kennedy >> My e-Mail: >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >>> On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> Hello Everyone, >>> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just >>> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple >>> devices. >>> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. >>> You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is >>> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders. >>> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to >>> see introduced next week? >>> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. >>> Moderator Mark >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8908AC4C-E319-40A8-975F-1B3C841B1422%40gmail.co
Recovering a deleted mail bos from time machine
Hello, I am running Apple Mail on the latest Ventura on my 2020 Macbook Air. back in December 2022 I accidentally deleted some but not all mail boxes which i would now like to recover from time machine. Is there any way to determine which mail boxes were backed up in time machine on say 22 December 2022so that I can compare this list with the current list of mail boxes and then recover the mail boxes which were deleted after that date. Many thanks … Paul Hopewell -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F5D6EBB6-A123-4C12-B861-A424693713AC%40hopewell.org.uk.
Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Hello, I am enjoying my Mac mini M1 and my iPhone 14 promax. I think the best thing I will want to see for iOS 17 is it to be more stable iOS 16 was very very buggy in the earlier versions. Hopefully iOS 17 will be much better. Violet. She/her. > On May 31, 2023, at 12:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Mark, > Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be > made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially > Voiceover voices. > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible > will make violent revolution inevitable." > --John F. Kennedy > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just >> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple >> devices. >> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. >> You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is >> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders. >> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to >> see introduced next week? >> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. >> Moderator Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8908AC4C-E319-40A8-975F-1B3C841B1422%40gmail.com.
Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
The features Tracy mentioned would be nice, but ET also makes a good point. So, my wishlist would be: Fix focus issues in IOS. I find it very slippy. Fix Voices in IOS. For me, they keep cutting in and out. Add feature in Fitness that allows workouts to be played to an audio only device such as a HomePod. Currently Fitness requires you to select a video output source, so the only way to play a workout to a HomePod is to do it through the Control Center, which is kind of a pain. Cheers, Donna > On May 31, 2023, at 11:22 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Mark, > Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be > made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially > Voiceover voices. > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible > will make violent revolution inevitable." > --John F. Kennedy > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just >> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple >> devices. >> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. >> You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is >> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders. >> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to >> see introduced next week? >> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. >> Moderator Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C869D4B2-5E56-4FB0-9239-6BA7802DB4B3%40me.com.
Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Hello, I don’t have any real preference for new features, but I would like to see stability, particularly in terms of Braille and SiRI. Looking forward to WWDC, as always. Suzanne > On May 31, 2023, at 12:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Mark, > Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be > made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially > Voiceover voices. > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible > will make violent revolution inevitable." > --John F. Kennedy > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just >> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple >> devices. >> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. >> You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is >> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders. >> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to >> see introduced next week? >> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. >> Moderator Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BC2B704D-BB68-4E41-ABE2-1CDEA5BFFBAD%40comcast.net.
Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Hi Mark, Rather than adding more features, I would much prefer the various OSs be made more stable. Ventura and iOS need to be more polished. Especially Voiceover voices. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --John F. Kennedy My e-Mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 5/31/2023 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple devices. I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders. Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to see introduced next week? I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. Moderator Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/b7d0f7fc-c8b9-aac4-0d32-68bd393d5ac7%40icloud.com.
Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Hello, 2 little things I’ve thought would be useful: A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button. A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful. Those are two little things off the top of my head. :) Take care, Traci > On May 31, 2023, at 7:58 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just > wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple > devices. > > I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. > > You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is > the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders. > > > Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to > see introduced next week? > > I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. > > Moderator Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/002d01d993d0%246dc3a800%24494af800%24%40ucla.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D1B8E6A7-2BF9-42E3-A18E-207F55B8BA68%40gmail.com.
Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
Hello Everyone, Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple devices. I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week. You know? The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders. Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to see introduced next week? I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies. Moderator Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/002d01d993d0%246dc3a800%24494af800%24%40ucla.edu.
