Re: What is this? And how do I get rid of it? ͏ ͏ combining “graphene joiner

2023-12-21 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
It is a special Unico character meant to prevent characters from joining to each other. It shouldn’t be used regularly, but seems to be used in mail from constant contact or are there such mailers to try to make you open the email to actually see the contents. The only way I know to get rid of. It would be to put those three words into the dictionary for pronunciation.You can read all about it on Wikipedia. Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 21, 2023, at 8:03 PM, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hi Brad,Auto detect was selected, so I changed it with no results.Thanks,RobOn Dec 21, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:I’m thinking this could be something that is not English.Try going into the Speech Attributes Rotor, and change the Language setting to Automatically Detect Language, and see if that does anything.
- Brad -


On Dec 21, 2023, at 10:54, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries  wrote:Dear List,I get this in a lot of emails on My Mac running Monterey 12.7.2.It does not happen on IOS.It is saying combining “graphene joiner”It seems to be in the subject line, because I can not find it in the body of the email.It seems to repeat over and over until I stop it.I got VoiceOver to copy last phrase to clipboard so I could paste it here.unread Apple Music Enjoy Apple Music for 3 months free. 10:25 AM Don’t forget to redeem yours. ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3E9F1E88-1C44-49D4-991E-4F577758D044%40icloud.com.

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Re: What is this? And how do I get rid of it? ͏ ͏

2023-12-21 Thread mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries
Hi Brad,
Auto detect was selected, so I changed it with no results.
Thanks,
Rob


> On Dec 21, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’m thinking this could be something that is not English.
> Try going into the Speech Attributes Rotor, and change the Language setting 
> to Automatically Detect Language, and see if that does anything.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 21, 2023, at 10:54, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> I get this in a lot of emails on My Mac running Monterey 12.7.2.
> It does not happen on IOS.
> It is saying combining “graphene joiner”
> 
> It seems to be in the subject line, because I can not find it in the body of 
> the email.
> It seems to repeat over and over until I stop it.
> I got VoiceOver to copy last phrase to clipboard so I could paste it here.
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Duolingo on Mac

2023-12-21 Thread Traci Duncan
I don’t know if anyone here does Duolingo via Safari on Mac. I learned today 
that you can reorder words with the mouse. You know those lessons where you 
need to form the sentence buy selecting the words. Well, it is annoying when 
you realize you made a mistake a few words back. It works to move your mouse to 
the word, mouse down on it, then go to where you meant to place that word. Set 
mouse focus over that space, then mouse up.

I’ll have to see if I can move mistaken words like this on iOs. My guess is not.

Hope you find this useful,
Traci

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Photos in Time Machine

2023-12-21 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi all, I’ve pulled out an old portable drive that has Time Machine back ups 
from my old Mac. I have never gotten used to using Time Machine, let alone 
searching it. How do I find certain photos or photo folders?

Oh, how I wish I could search it like a regular folder system.

Any guidance is appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: What is this? And how do I get rid of it? ͏ ͏

2023-12-21 Thread Brad Snyder
I’m thinking this could be something that is not English.
Try going into the Speech Attributes Rotor, and change the Language setting to 
Automatically Detect Language, and see if that does anything.

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On Dec 21, 2023, at 10:54, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Dear List,
I get this in a lot of emails on My Mac running Monterey 12.7.2.
It does not happen on IOS.
It is saying combining “graphene joiner”

It seems to be in the subject line, because I can not find it in the body of 
the email.
It seems to repeat over and over until I stop it.
I got VoiceOver to copy last phrase to clipboard so I could paste it here.
unread Apple Music Enjoy Apple Music for 3 months free. 10:25 AM Don’t forget 
to redeem yours. ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ 
͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ 
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͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏

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Re: What is this? And how do I get rid of it? ͏ ͏

2023-12-21 Thread Jessica Moss
I get those too, and was wondering what on Earth this is as well.  It only 
displays as a space when I scroll character by character using Voiceover, and 
trying to google it has produced nothing.

> On Dec 21, 2023, at 11:54 AM, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> I get this in a lot of emails on My Mac running Monterey 12.7.2.
> It does not happen on IOS.
> It is saying combining “graphene joiner”
> 
> It seems to be in the subject line, because I can not find it in the body of 
> the email.
> It seems to repeat over and over until I stop it.
> I got VoiceOver to copy last phrase to clipboard so I could paste it here.
> unread Apple Music Enjoy Apple Music for 3 months free. 10:25 AM Don’t forget 
> to redeem yours. ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ 
> ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ 
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What is this? And how do I get rid of it? ͏ ͏

2023-12-21 Thread mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries
Dear List,
I get this in a lot of emails on My Mac running Monterey 12.7.2.
It does not happen on IOS.
It is saying combining “graphene joiner”

It seems to be in the subject line, because I can not find it in the body of 
the email.
It seems to repeat over and over until I stop it.
I got VoiceOver to copy last phrase to clipboard so I could paste it here.
unread Apple Music Enjoy Apple Music for 3 months free. 10:25 AM Don’t forget 
to redeem yours. ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏ ͏͏ 
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