Sharing Media Library

2023-12-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 

Hi all,
   When I receive a new SSD external drive, I will move my media to it.

   What I am curious about is, can I share this between two Macs? 
Actually, two versions on one Mac. Thanks.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5762f95a-c52d-442b-893a-cb2f4b685166%40icloud.com.

Re: Bug in Numbers

2023-12-26 Thread Phil Halton 
Yes, I’ve been experiencing exactly this for a while now in numbers. My workaround has been too stop interacting with the table and re-interact, doing this several times until I can interact and move the cursor down. Usually when I try to interact with certain tables I get that bong sound when I try to arrow down then Stop interacting re-interact and or down will sometimes then work. I’ve never been completely blocked out of a table but sometimes I have to go through this little dance with numbers to interact and stop interacting once or twice before the arrow keys will move me into the table. I hope that makes sense.  Give it a try, if you can’t interact then stop interacting and then try again until you’re in. I have no idea what causes it. Sent from my IPhoneOn Dec 26, 2023, at 5:15 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:I believe numbers is not as fluid about moving between the Grid and the formula editing box. I can't remember if I was able to use VO-J to jump between them, or if I ended up setting up a VO hotspot. It also might be worth while trying to turn off cursor tracking while in numbers.On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 7:18 AM Brandon Olivares  wrote:I’ve been experiencing this bug in Numbers for a while now. Sometimes when I go into a spreadsheet, I can’t navigate any of the cells. Interacting with the table just results in it making an error noise any time I try to go in any direction, as if there’s nothing in the document, but there clearly is.

Only if I restart Numbers does it work again, but it keeps happening.

Are others experiencing this? I’ve had it for a while now and thought I’d wait to see if it was fixed, but it’s still happening.

Is there any workaround or something I’m doing wrong?

Thanks,
Brandon

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C6C73B18-A6A4-424E-9D41-5171D70F0560%40gmail.com.




-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAEL01RtamNZKP2O6Onw2fx5x%3DMRvLqQew38sWWmzB21ToSqxWw%40mail.gmail.com.




-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BA33C82F-C8B6-43AF-A13D-A559B0BFD52D%40gmail.com.

Re: Thunderbird on Mac

2023-12-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
   This has been resolved. Next step is to start working with 
Thunderbird as time allows.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/26/2023 2:49 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
    Just checking to see if anyone is running Thunderbird on the Mac. 
Currently I am trying to access its profile manager via Terminal with no 
luck.


 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
  -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/531b2f16-fe20-4c55-b56b-4fde34939242%40icloud.com.

Re: maildrop

2023-12-26 Thread Brad Snyder 
Yes, just paste the item you want to attach into the body of the email message.
If Mail Drop is enabled, then it will just take care of it for you.

HTH.

- Brad -



On Dec 26, 2023, at 18:35, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I’m experimenting with ways to send large. files to people on my Mac. with 
maildrop I’m supposed to be able to send files up to 5gb which is probably 
larger than I’d ever send. how would I attach a file like that to an email? I 
have at least 1 of my accounts set to send using maildrop. would I just paste 
the file into the email the way I would a smaller attachment or is there 
something else I have to do? what I want it to do is send my recipient a 
download link for the file. the article I read said something about attachments 
in the toolbar even before the email is addressed. suggestions please.

thanks.
Lorie

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/899FAF98-B1F8-4490-8FD6-59093A426E32%40gmail.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D517DCA9-A362-41D0-AEAB-5F0D034078A5%40swbell.net.

maildrop

2023-12-26 Thread Lorie McCloud 
I’m experimenting with ways to send large. files to people on my Mac. with 
maildrop I’m supposed to be able to send files up to 5gb which is probably 
larger than I’d ever send. how would I attach a file like that to an email? I 
have at least 1 of my accounts set to send using maildrop. would I just paste 
the file into the email the way I would a smaller attachment or is there 
something else I have to do? what I want it to do is send my recipient a 
download link for the file. the article I read said something about attachments 
in the toolbar even before the email is addressed. suggestions please.

thanks.
Lorie

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/899FAF98-B1F8-4490-8FD6-59093A426E32%40gmail.com.

Thunderbird on Mac

2023-12-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
   Just checking to see if anyone is running Thunderbird on the Mac. 
Currently I am trying to access its profile manager via Terminal with no 
luck.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/78acfdbc-f28d-4683-9bf8-01efd3fc6862%40icloud.com.

Re: Bug in Numbers

2023-12-26 Thread Brandon Olivares 
I’m not sure if that’s it. No amount of jumping, hitting escape, hitting tab, 
or anything else will make it work again once this happens.

> On Dec 26, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I believe numbers is not as fluid about moving between the Grid and the 
> formula editing box. I can't remember if I was able to use VO-J to jump 
> between them, or if I ended up setting up a VO hotspot. It also might be 
> worth while trying to turn off cursor tracking while in numbers.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 7:18 AM Brandon Olivares  > wrote:
>> I’ve been experiencing this bug in Numbers for a while now. Sometimes when I 
>> go into a spreadsheet, I can’t navigate any of the cells. Interacting with 
>> the table just results in it making an error noise any time I try to go in 
>> any direction, as if there’s nothing in the document, but there clearly is.
>> 
>> Only if I restart Numbers does it work again, but it keeps happening.
>> 
>> Are others experiencing this? I’ve had it for a while now and thought I’d 
>> wait to see if it was fixed, but it’s still happening.
>> 
>> Is there any workaround or something I’m doing wrong?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Brandon
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> mk...@ucla.edu  and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C6C73B18-A6A4-424E-9D41-5171D70F0560%40gmail.com.
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAEL01RtamNZKP2O6Onw2fx5x%3DMRvLqQew38sWWmzB21ToSqxWw%40mail.gmail.com
>  
> .

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/090A8F40-C86F-41BD-A4AE-0FBEB11D52F7%40gmail.com.

Re: Uber app kills Voice Over on my iPhone

2023-12-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
I had an equivalent problem with the Transit app. After scrolling through
4/5 busstops, VoiceOver would completely stop for that app. Killing the app
I would then get VoiceOver to speak again.
I will try deleteing the app and reinstalling.

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 11:17 AM 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> For the record the problem has resolved itself sometime over the past 48
> hours. I hate problems that resolve themselves because one never learns
> anything from such situations. :)
>
>
> On the other hand, this was a serious showstopper when it was a problem.
> It made my iPhone useless while the problem was manifesting. I'm so glad
> I have a fallback Android phone which usefully mirrors the Uber data in
> realtime in the Android Uber app.
>
> Brad Snyder writes:
> > You might want to try restarting VoiceOver.
> > You can do this by asking Siri to turn VoiceOver off, then asking Siri
> to turn VoiceOver back on.
> > Sometimes cycling VoiceOver off and then back on corrects all kinds of
> issues.
> >
> > - Brad -
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 24, 2023, at 09:21, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > The only restart I know is long press of the power button followed by
> > double tap on screen, as Power Off is the default action on the menu
> > there. Note I also have no VO on this menu.
> >
> > I guess I need to reinstall the app because I am indeed on 17.2.1.
> >
> > Brad Snyder writes:
> > > My suggestion would be to restart your device.
> > > Also, make sure you are updated to the latest version of iOS, which is
> version 17.2.1.
> > > If the issue persists, delete the Uber app, and reinstall.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Brad -
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 22, 2023, at 14:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All:
> > >
> > > Beginning during an outing this past Wednesday, but then again Thursday
> > > I noticed that using Uber on my SE is crashing Voice Over. I can order
> > > the ride. The crash occurs when trip data is loaded. I still have
> speech
> > > as some of the data comes across, but it eventually dies fully.
> > >
> > > Strangely, receiving an incoming phone call reactivates VoiceOver, but
> > > only while the phone is ringing. Once answered or dismissed, I have no
> > > Voice Over output.
> > >
> > > Needless to say this is a showstopper for relying on Uber and my
> iPhone.
> > > Anyone else seen anything like this?
> > >
> > > Janina
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
> > > Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> > >
> > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> > > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> > >
> > > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > > https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
> > >
> > > --
> > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
> > >
> > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> > >
> > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach
> mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach
> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> > >
> > > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > > ---
> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > > To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/ZYX4x_Oil_N2cczc%40rednote.net
> .
> > >
> > > --
> > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
> > >
> > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> > >
> > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach
> mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach
> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> > >
> > > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > > ---
> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > > To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FDA8E03A-6B2A-49ED-8761-67F0B0012089%40swbell.net
> .
> >
>

Re: Bug in Numbers

2023-12-26 Thread Karen Lewellen 

Jonathan,
I am sorry to wander through this thread, but I have been meaning to get 
permission  to write you off list.
I am interested in learning more about the new York Public Library  apple 
group you referenced in another thread.

May I write you privately?
Thanks,
Karen



On Tue, 26 Dec 2023, Jonathan Cohn wrote:


I believe numbers is not as fluid about moving between the Grid and the
formula editing box. I can't remember if I was able to use VO-J to jump
between them, or if I ended up setting up a VO hotspot. It also might be
worth while trying to turn off cursor tracking while in numbers.


On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 7:18???AM Brandon Olivares 
wrote:


I???ve been experiencing this bug in Numbers for a while now. Sometimes when
I go into a spreadsheet, I can???t navigate any of the cells. Interacting
with the table just results in it making an error noise any time I try to
go in any direction, as if there???s nothing in the document, but there
clearly is.

Only if I restart Numbers does it work again, but it keeps happening.

Are others experiencing this? I???ve had it for a while now and thought I???d
wait to see if it was fixed, but it???s still happening.

Is there any workaround or something I???m doing wrong?

Thanks,
Brandon

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark
at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C6C73B18-A6A4-424E-9D41-5171D70F0560%40gmail.com
.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAEL01RtamNZKP2O6Onw2fx5x%3DMRvLqQew38sWWmzB21ToSqxWw%40mail.gmail.com.

Re: Bug in Numbers

2023-12-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
I believe numbers is not as fluid about moving between the Grid and the
formula editing box. I can't remember if I was able to use VO-J to jump
between them, or if I ended up setting up a VO hotspot. It also might be
worth while trying to turn off cursor tracking while in numbers.


On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 7:18 AM Brandon Olivares 
wrote:

> I’ve been experiencing this bug in Numbers for a while now. Sometimes when
> I go into a spreadsheet, I can’t navigate any of the cells. Interacting
> with the table just results in it making an error noise any time I try to
> go in any direction, as if there’s nothing in the document, but there
> clearly is.
>
> Only if I restart Numbers does it work again, but it keeps happening.
>
> Are others experiencing this? I’ve had it for a while now and thought I’d
> wait to see if it was fixed, but it’s still happening.
>
> Is there any workaround or something I’m doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark
> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C6C73B18-A6A4-424E-9D41-5171D70F0560%40gmail.com
> .
>

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAEL01RtamNZKP2O6Onw2fx5x%3DMRvLqQew38sWWmzB21ToSqxWw%40mail.gmail.com.

Re: Adding Widgets on Mac OS

2023-12-26 Thread Michael Babcock 
Hi Joseph and all!

Find "Using widgets from iOS 17 on macOS 14’s desktop”, this was the episode I 
was thinking of:

https://unmute.show/2023/10/01/using-widgets-from-ios-17-on-macos-14s-desktop/

VO+O to open notification center
Locate edit widgets button
Locate the widget
Interact with the preview, find the size you want
Use actions menu on the size you want, and choose Drag to desktop.
You can also press vo+Space on this widget to add to the desktop.
It looks like it’s easy to add both Mac and IOS widgets to the desktop, however 
I also am not seeing how to move those widgets or add new ones to the 
Notification Center.
It does say "Drag a widget to place it on the desktop or Notification Center…” 
but doesn’t make it clear how to drag or add to the Notification Center.
I did try VO+ < and VO + . As well as vo+command+shift+space
To drag and then toggle the notification center and attempt to drop in the 
widgets there, and that didn't work either.


Best
Michael - KJ7PAZ
Payown Media, LLC




> On Dec 26, 2023, at 3:19 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> Hey Michael, if you wouldn’t mind sharing the recording, I’d like to hear 
> that! Thank you so much
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2023, at 1:40 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hey there,
>> 
>> So first, if you haven’t yet, try checking under the actions menu, VO plus 
>> command plus space and see if there’s an option to add there. I did a 
>> recording for adding widgets to the desktop on Mac, and don’t quite remember 
>> how to do it, but will be glad to share steps tomorrow. Are you trying to 
>> add widget to the desktop or to the notification center? Have a beautiful 
>> day.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 25, 2023, at 7:34 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Can someone point me to the proper method to add/remove widgets on the 
>>> latest Mac OS.
>>> 
>>> I tried this article from Apple but it doesn’t seem to work.
>>> 
>>> I know how to open the Notification Center, indicate I want to edit widgets 
>>> and find those I want. This is where I get stuck. I can activate the widget 
>>> and it shows up in the preview area. At that point I’m stuck.
>>> 
>>> https://support.apple.com/guide/voiceover/notification-center-vo082d92ca69/mac#:~:text=Add%20or%20remove%20widgets%3A%20Navigate,then%20press%20VO%2DSpace%20bar.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>>  
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>  
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
>>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>  
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>> .
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E0E04513-5067-4606-A42D-F1600E77E661%40gmail.com
>>>  
>>> .
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/02DDD39D-293E-4DD7-9C3B-BCCB948C3CFD%40payown.media
>>  
>> .
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concer

Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
I can’t find a source for the news that Broadcom fired accessibility team 
employees from VMware, although of course they did fire many employees, 
generally.

Anyway, I was rather annoyed to find that my Christmas wouldn’t go to plan 
because of the latest issues with Sonoma and Fusion. Something of a blow to we 
blind Mac-using folk, I think, and not one with a very good workaround. Keep 
piling on the pressure, as usual. Apple, in fact, rather than VMware, seem to 
be the culprit here, because of changes Apple made in AppKit, which breaks 
Fusion due to a safety check imposed on setuid binaries. They’re working on it 
though, apparently.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EB6BD385-C0F2-47F5-9D7D-B7D7D63216F0%40me.com.

Switching Between Devices On Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard

2023-12-26 Thread pdevasto0219 
Hi everyone,

 

I picked up a Logitech K585 Bluetooth keyboard that I was hoping would help
me switch between my PC, Mac and iPhone. I'm not seeing any difficulty
getting the devices connected, but I can't for the life of me figure out how
to use those "Easy-Switch" buttons to move between the devices. If anyone
has this or a similar keyboard, could you tell me how I would switch among
devices? The manual talks about Easy Switch Channel 1 and Channel 2, but I'm
a bit confused.

 

Thanks for any help,

Pete De Vasto 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/020801da383a%24ffa67a90%24fef36fb0%24%40gmail.com.

Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread Maurice A. Mines 
Hi E.t. are you  DeafBlind? To. Be  fair  I  am  not  having any issues in my  
Parallels setup whin I  use  usb braille. Bare in  mind that  iam using Dragon 
15 Pro Stand alone. I also  use J-Say v 22 on  this  VM and  thanks to  reading 
this  about Brodcom firing all  accessibility staff  will  insure that  I  will 
never com back  to  Vm Ware, at  any price.

Maurice  Mines.

>  


> On Dec 26, 2023, at 17:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on Monterey 
> so will keep that for backup.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
>> free license.
>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.
>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.
>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
>> and mend their ways?
>> Argh!
>> Janina
>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
>>> license key (free) for Player.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>>>  -Helen Keller
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
 
 I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
 another issue.
 
 hth
 Janina
 
 Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
> Or do you still have the intel?
> /A
> 
>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hello all,
>>Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
>> This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
>> 
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>> -Helen Keller
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se.
 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, pl

Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
   If that is true, then I will stop using Windows. It runs fine on 
Monterey so will keep that for backup.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/26/2023 8:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
free license.

It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.

Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.

So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
and mend their ways?

Argh!

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:

Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
license key (free) for Player.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
  -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.

I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
another issue.

hth
Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:

Hi!
DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
Or do you still have the intel?
/A


17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
:

Hello all,
Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? This 
broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
-Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se.




--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/333d6b97-f443-4665-ab58-c114a80abb6f%40icloud.com.




--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly

RE: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread kellford1967 
Wow,

I hadn't heard they fired all the accessibility staff. That is truly 
unfortunate. There was a great deal of progress on making the clients 
themselves accessible, obviously far more than Parallels in my opinion.

Kelly



-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 10:32 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: VMware Fusion/Player

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the free 
license.

It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside from any 
accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.

Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay much 
attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the accessibility 
people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not in tune with how to 
sell in the U.S. and the E.U.

So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn and mend 
their ways?

Argh!

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a 
> new license key (free) for Player.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>  -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> > 
> > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but 
> > that's another issue.
> > 
> > hth
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> > > Hi!
> > > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
> > > Or do you still have the intel?
> > > /A
> > > 
> > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> > > > :
> > > > 
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
> > > > This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> > > > -Helen Keller
> > > > My e-Mail:
> > > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> > > > Visionaries list.
> > > > 
> > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
> > > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
> > > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
> > > > itself.
> > > > 
> > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can 
> > > > reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> > > > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> > > > 
> > > > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > > > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
> > > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
> > > > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > > > To view this discussion on the web visit 
> > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> > > Visionaries list.
> > > 
> > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> > > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> > > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> > > 
> > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach 
> > > mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can 
> > > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> > > 
> > > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > > ---
> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> > > "MacVisionaries" group.
> > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > > To view this discussion on the web visit 
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se.
> > 
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach 
> mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach 
> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this

Re: VMware Fusion/Player

2023-12-26 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get the
free license.

It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside
from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug that.

Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to pay
much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the
accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly not
in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U.

So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn
and mend their ways?

Argh!

Janina

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a new
> license key (free) for Player.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>  -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma.
> > 
> > I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but that's
> > another issue.
> > 
> > hth
> > Janina
> > 
> > Anders Holmberg writes:
> > > Hi!
> > > DOes it even work on an m1 Mac?
> > > Or do you still have the intel?
> > > /A
> > > 
> > > > 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> > > > :
> > > > 
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the Mac? 
> > > > This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > > > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> > > > -Helen Keller
> > > > My e-Mail:
> > > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> > > > Visionaries list.
> > > > 
> > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
> > > > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
> > > > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
> > > > itself.
> > > > 
> > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
> > > > at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
> > > > at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> > > > 
> > > > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > > > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
> > > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
> > > > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > > > To view this discussion on the web visit 
> > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/479ece1b-707b-4e06-8e02-ee3f3da537ab%40icloud.com.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> > > Visionaries list.
> > > 
> > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> > > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> > > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> > > 
> > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
> > > at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> > > 
> > > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > > ---
> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> > > "MacVisionaries" group.
> > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > > To view this discussion on the web visit 
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/863ABCE4-AEF0-448C-BD50-1A21CEF477F2%40pipkrokodil.se.
> > 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/333d6b97-f443-4665-ab58-c114a80abb6f%40icloud.com.

-- 

Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
Accessibility C

Re: Will Vm Ware run on a M2 Mac?

2023-12-26 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
VMware Fusion 13 (or higher) is what you need for your M2. Older VMware will 
not work.

NOTE: To answer your earlier email about importing a Parellels VM into
VMware ... I wouldn't even expect that to work. Parallels has its own
way of creating and specifying virtual machines. And VMware has its way
of doing that. The two are not the same. Don't be fooled by the fact
that both platforms use the same name: "Virtual Machine." There's not a
definition of virtual machine that both companies must adhere to. They
each get to do their virtual machines as they see fit and there's no
requirement that these are interchangeable.

Maurice A. Mines writes:
> Hi  the  subject  says  it  all . Thinking about  switching from Parallels to 
>  Vm Ware. Is  this  a  good  idea? I  am  using  a  M2 Mac.
> 
> I hope  that all  list members of  the  list  are  having  a  grate holiday. 
> 
> Maurice Mines.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/61F6E0BD-2526-46AF-9E0F-71732A722414%40gmail.com.

-- 

Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Linux Foundation Fellow
https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/ZYr-YddNS3PBiiBK%40rednote.net.

Re: Uber app kills Voice Over on my iPhone

2023-12-26 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
For the record the problem has resolved itself sometime over the past 48
hours. I hate problems that resolve themselves because one never learns
anything from such situations. :)


On the other hand, this was a serious showstopper when it was a problem.
It made my iPhone useless while the problem was manifesting. I'm so glad
I have a fallback Android phone which usefully mirrors the Uber data in
realtime in the Android Uber app.

Brad Snyder writes:
> You might want to try restarting VoiceOver.
> You can do this by asking Siri to turn VoiceOver off, then asking Siri to 
> turn VoiceOver back on.
> Sometimes cycling VoiceOver off and then back on corrects all kinds of issues.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2023, at 09:21, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> The only restart I know is long press of the power button followed by
> double tap on screen, as Power Off is the default action on the menu
> there. Note I also have no VO on this menu.
> 
> I guess I need to reinstall the app because I am indeed on 17.2.1.
> 
> Brad Snyder writes:
> > My suggestion would be to restart your device.
> > Also, make sure you are updated to the latest version of iOS, which is 
> > version 17.2.1. 
> > If the issue persists, delete the Uber app, and reinstall.
> > 
> > 
> > - Brad -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Dec 22, 2023, at 14:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Dear All:
> > 
> > Beginning during an outing this past Wednesday, but then again Thursday
> > I noticed that using Uber on my SE is crashing Voice Over. I can order
> > the ride. The crash occurs when trip data is loaded. I still have speech
> > as some of the data comes across, but it eventually dies fully.
> > 
> > Strangely, receiving an incoming phone call reactivates VoiceOver, but
> > only while the phone is ringing. Once answered or dismissed, I have no
> > Voice Over output.
> > 
> > Needless to say this is a showstopper for relying on Uber and my iPhone.
> > Anyone else seen anything like this?
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
> > Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> > 
> > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> > 
> > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
> > 
> > -- 
> > The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> > Visionaries list.
> > 
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
> > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> > 
> > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
> >  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> > caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> > 
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > --- 
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> > "MacVisionaries" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To view this discussion on the web visit 
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/ZYX4x_Oil_N2cczc%40rednote.net.
> > 
> > -- 
> > The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> > Visionaries list.
> > 
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
> > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> > 
> > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
> >  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> > caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> > 
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > --- 
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> > "MacVisionaries" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To view this discussion on the web visit 
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FDA8E03A-6B2A-49ED-8761-67F0B0012089%40swbell.net.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> 
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures   http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> 
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel t

Re: Adding Widgets on Mac OS

2023-12-26 Thread joseph hodge 
Hey Michael, if you wouldn’t mind sharing the recording, I’d like to hear that! Thank you so muchSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 26, 2023, at 1:40 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:Hey there,So first, if you haven’t yet, try checking under the actions menu, VO plus command plus space and see if there’s an option to add there. I did a recording for adding widgets to the desktop on Mac, and don’t quite remember how to do it, but will be glad to share steps tomorrow. Are you trying to add widget to the desktop or to the notification center? Have a beautiful day.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 25, 2023, at 7:34 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:Hello,Can someone point me to the proper method to add/remove widgets on the latest Mac OS.I tried this article from Apple but it doesn’t seem to work.I know how to open the Notification Center, indicate I want to edit widgets and find those I want. This is where I get stuck. I can activate the widget and it shows up in the preview area. At that point I’m stuck.https://support.apple.com/guide/voiceover/notification-center-vo082d92ca69/mac#:~:text=Add%20or%20remove%20widgets%3A%20Navigate,then%20press%20VO%2DSpace%20bar.Kelly



-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E0E04513-5067-4606-A42D-F1600E77E661%40gmail.com.




-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/02DDD39D-293E-4DD7-9C3B-BCCB948C3CFD%40payown.media.




-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5E9993C9-9342-4410-80B4-C9F9776A23DE%40gmail.com.