RE: Is there a way to permanently disable optimized charging?

[etscrivani via MacVisionaries]

If you go into settings tap on battery health. I forget if battery health is 
just under settings or if you need to go into general. Anyway once you swipe to 
battery health tap on it and there will be an option to tap that will turn off 
optimization. 

Eileen

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From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 10:59 PM
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Subject: Is there a way to permanently disable optimized charging?

Hi all,

OK, optimized charging is driving me bat crazy.  If I plug something in, I 
do so because I want it to charge to full.  Is there a way to disable it on Mac 
and/or I-devices?
TIA,
Donna

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Is there a way to permanently disable optimized charging?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

OK, optimized charging is driving me bat crazy.  If I plug something in, I 
do so because I want it to charge to full.  Is there a way to disable it on Mac 
and/or I-devices?
TIA,
Donna

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Reviving an old iMac

[Phil Halton]

I'm trying to revive myold iMac from around 2011 or so, I'm pretty sure it was 
running El Capitan. I'm locked out and can't log in because of a password logon 
failure even though the same password always worked and is the same that I've 
used on every mac i ever had.

No matter, Now I'm trying to reinstall the OS from recovery mode but the El 
Capitan installer package is missing. I figure that I should be able to get the 
installer and put it on a USB stick and somehow reinstall from that.
Can anyone help me with this and walk me through the basic steps and where I 
can get the installer package?

I wasthinking of just junking the iMac, but it's still usable and now I really 
want to get this thing back and running if nothing more than for a novelty. 
Plus, I don't like not being able to do something until I've exhausted all 
options and possibilities.
Please help with this if you can.

I'm trying to revive myold iMac from around 2011 or so, I'm pretty sure it was 
running El Capitan. I'm locked out and can't log in because of a password logon 
failure even though the same password always worked and is the same that I've 
used on every mac i ever had.

No matter, Now I'm trying to reinstall the OS from recovery mode but the El 
Capitan installer package is missing. I figure that I should be able to get the 
installer and put it on a USB stick and somehow reinstall from that.
Can anyone help me with this and walk me through the basic steps and where I 
can get the installer package?

I wasthinking of just junking the iMac, but it's still usable and now I really 
want to get this thing back and running if nothing more than for a novelty. 
Plus, I don't like giving up on something until I've exhausted all options and 
possibilities.
Please help with this if you can.

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Re: Login Keychain

[Jonathan Cohn]

No, this is not file vault. By default keychains on now in the cloud and
then shared down to each machine. But since Apple is privacy counscious it
does ntot keep a decryption key for the keychain. So, your new computer is
asking for the password for one of your older computers in order to decrypt
the keychain so you can use it to fill in application and web passwords.


On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 5:04 PM 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> While working to set up Ventura in another APFS volume, I
> encountered a request for a login keychain password. Is this buy chance
> related to file vault encryption? I normally do not have this feature
> enabled. Please enlighten me. Thanks.
>
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Login Keychain

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
   While working to set up Ventura in another APFS volume, I 
encountered a request for a login keychain password. Is this buy chance 
related to file vault encryption? I normally do not have this feature 
enabled. Please enlighten me. Thanks.


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Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit

[Suzanne Erb]

I also wonder whether it might be helpful to contact Apple Accessibility 
877-204-3930. Perhaps you can show them what you are experiencing so that they 
can address it in a future update.
Best,
Suzanne Erb
suze...@comcast.net

> On Jan 26, 2024, at 12:15, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
> Ok. You might want to try using another word processor like iText you can 
> get from the Mac App Store and see if that works.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> Mac for the Blind
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> 
>> On Jan 26, 2024, at 12:01 PM, moiz tundawala  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't want to open the file in a browser because I want to be able
>> to read and edit simultaneously.
>> Moiz.
>> 
>> On 1/26/24, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> I don't think QuickLook can be used to read a 300–400 page document.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2024, at 09:23, 'jason' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Quick Look can also read a variety of file formats. When you want to edit,
>>> of course, you’ll need to use whichever editor you prefer.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on
>>> behalf of John Panarese 
>>> Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 16:00
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit
>>> 
>>> Actually, Brad had a great idea. Try to open it in Safari and see how it
>>> reads there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
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>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2024, at 3:27 PM, moiz tundawala 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi John,
 
 Nice to know that you are on the group too.
 
 Sadly it's not working out for me on Text Edit. I have tried all the
 options that you suggested.
 
 Also, I don't want to open the document in a web brouzer. This is because
 I want to have the option of editing it if required.
 
 On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 6:16:38 PM UTC wb...@swbell.net wrote:
> 
> Have you tried opening the file in a browser, such as Safari, Chrome or
> even Brave on your Mac?
> 
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 25, 2024, at 07:59, moiz tundawala  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your response. As I mentioned, in Text Edit, I am not being
> able to read paragraph by paragraph. When Voiceover moves to a new page,
> it reads the first paragraph character by character. The subsequent
> paragraphs are read properly, and then once again after a page break,  I
> encounter the same problem.
> 
> 
> 
> I have tried all possible options, with quick nav on and off, as well as
> keyboard commanders.
> 
> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 5:12:10 PM UTC thepian...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> 
>> For things of that length I usually convert to text and read in
>> TextEdit. I’ve never had a problem with that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com  on
>> behalf of moiz tundawala 
>> Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 10:53 AM
>> To: MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Reading on Pages and Text Edit
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> What is the best way to read book length documents on Mac?
>> 
>> I have large Word files from my Windows computer. These files take a lot
>> of time loading on Mac when I open them on Word.
>> 
>> With Pages and Text Edit, I am facing a strange problem. I prefer to
>> read paragraph by paragraph. But whenever Voiceover encounters a page
>> break, it starts reading character by character.
>> 
>> I have taking this issue to Apple Accessibility and they have not been
>> able to help.
>> 
>> My Word documents are 300 to 400 pages long. Can anyone please advise?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Moiz.
>> 
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Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit

[John Panarese]

Ok. You might want to try using another word processor like iText you can 
get from the Mac App Store and see if that works.


Take Care

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> On Jan 26, 2024, at 12:01 PM, moiz tundawala  wrote:
> 
> I don't want to open the file in a browser because I want to be able
> to read and edit simultaneously.
> Moiz.
> 
> On 1/26/24, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> I don't think QuickLook can be used to read a 300–400 page document.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2024, at 09:23, 'jason' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Quick Look can also read a variety of file formats. When you want to edit,
>> of course, you’ll need to use whichever editor you prefer.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on
>> behalf of John Panarese 
>> Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 16:00
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit
>> 
>> Actually, Brad had a great idea. Try to open it in Safari and see how it
>> reads there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2024, at 3:27 PM, moiz tundawala 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> Nice to know that you are on the group too.
>>> 
>>> Sadly it's not working out for me on Text Edit. I have tried all the
>>> options that you suggested.
>>> 
>>> Also, I don't want to open the document in a web brouzer. This is because
>>> I want to have the option of editing it if required.
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 6:16:38 PM UTC wb...@swbell.net wrote:
 
 Have you tried opening the file in a browser, such as Safari, Chrome or
 even Brave on your Mac?
 
 
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Jan 25, 2024, at 07:59, moiz tundawala  wrote:
 
 Thanks for your response. As I mentioned, in Text Edit, I am not being
 able to read paragraph by paragraph. When Voiceover moves to a new page,
 it reads the first paragraph character by character. The subsequent
 paragraphs are read properly, and then once again after a page break,  I
 encounter the same problem.
 
 
 
 I have tried all possible options, with quick nav on and off, as well as
 keyboard commanders.
 
 On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 5:12:10 PM UTC thepian...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> 
> For things of that length I usually convert to text and read in
> TextEdit. I’ve never had a problem with that.
> 
> 
> 
> From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com  on
> behalf of moiz tundawala 
> Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 10:53 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Reading on Pages and Text Edit
> 
> Hi
> 
> What is the best way to read book length documents on Mac?
> 
> I have large Word files from my Windows computer. These files take a lot
> of time loading on Mac when I open them on Word.
> 
> With Pages and Text Edit, I am facing a strange problem. I prefer to
> read paragraph by paragraph. But whenever Voiceover encounters a page
> break, it starts reading character by character.
> 
> I have taking this issue to Apple Accessibility and they have not been
> able to help.
> 
> My Word documents are 300 to 400 pages long. Can anyone please advise?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Moiz.
> 
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Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit

[moiz tundawala]

I don't want to open the file in a browser because I want to be able
to read and edit simultaneously.
Moiz.

On 1/26/24, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> I don't think QuickLook can be used to read a 300–400 page document.
>
> - Brad -
>
> On Jan 26, 2024, at 09:23, 'jason' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Quick Look can also read a variety of file formats. When you want to edit,
> of course, you’ll need to use whichever editor you prefer.
>
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on
> behalf of John Panarese 
> Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 16:00
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit
>
>     Actually, Brad had a great idea. Try to open it in Safari and see how it
> reads there.
>
>
>
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>
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>
>> On Jan 25, 2024, at 3:27 PM, moiz tundawala 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Nice to know that you are on the group too.
>>
>> Sadly it's not working out for me on Text Edit. I have tried all the
>> options that you suggested.
>>
>> Also, I don't want to open the document in a web brouzer. This is because
>> I want to have the option of editing it if required.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 6:16:38 PM UTC wb...@swbell.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you tried opening the file in a browser, such as Safari, Chrome or
>>> even Brave on your Mac?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Brad -
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2024, at 07:59, moiz tundawala  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response. As I mentioned, in Text Edit, I am not being
>>> able to read paragraph by paragraph. When Voiceover moves to a new page,
>>> it reads the first paragraph character by character. The subsequent
>>> paragraphs are read properly, and then once again after a page break,  I
>>> encounter the same problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have tried all possible options, with quick nav on and off, as well as
>>> keyboard commanders.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 5:12:10 PM UTC thepian...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:

 For things of that length I usually convert to text and read in
 TextEdit. I’ve never had a problem with that.



 From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com  on
 behalf of moiz tundawala 
 Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 10:53 AM
 To: MacVisionaries 
 Subject: Reading on Pages and Text Edit

 Hi

 What is the best way to read book length documents on Mac?

 I have large Word files from my Windows computer. These files take a lot
 of time loading on Mac when I open them on Word.

 With Pages and Text Edit, I am facing a strange problem. I prefer to
 read paragraph by paragraph. But whenever Voiceover encounters a page
 break, it starts reading character by character.

 I have taking this issue to Apple Accessibility and they have not been
 able to help.

 My Word documents are 300 to 400 pages long. Can anyone please advise?

 Thanks,

 Moiz.

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Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit

[Brad Snyder]

I don't think QuickLook can be used to read a 300–400 page document.- Brad -On Jan 26, 2024, at 09:23, 'jason' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Quick Look can also read a variety of file formats. When you want to edit, of course, you’ll need to use whichever editor you prefer. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on behalf of John Panarese Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 16:00To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit    Actually, Brad had a great idea. Try to open it in Safari and see how it reads there. Take CareJohn D. PanareseDirectorMac for the BlindTel, (631) 724-4479Email, j...@macfortheblind.comWebsite, http://www.macfortheblind.comAPPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and TrainerAUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATEMAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORTOn Jan 25, 2024, at 3:27 PM, moiz tundawala  wrote: Hi John,Nice to know that you are on the group too.Sadly it's not working out for me on Text Edit. I have tried all the options that you suggested.Also, I don't want to open the document in a web brouzer. This is because I want to have the option of editing it if required.On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 6:16:38 PM UTC wb...@swbell.net wrote:Have you tried opening the file in a browser, such as Safari, Chrome or even Brave on your Mac? - Brad -On Jan 25, 2024, at 07:59, moiz tundawala  wrote:Thanks for your response. As I mentioned, in Text Edit, I am not being able to read paragraph by paragraph. When Voiceover moves to a new page, it reads the first paragraph character by character. The subsequent paragraphs are read properly, and then once again after a page break,  I encounter the same problem. I have tried all possible options, with quick nav on and off, as well as keyboard commanders.On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 5:12:10 PM UTC thepian...@gmail.com wrote:For things of that length I usually convert to text and read in TextEdit. I’ve never had a problem with that. From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com  on behalf of moiz tundawala Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 10:53 AMTo: MacVisionaries Subject: Reading on Pages and Text EditHiWhat is the best way to read book length documents on Mac?I have large Word files from my Windows computer. These files take a lot of time loading on Mac when I open them on Word.With Pages and Text Edit, I am facing a strange problem. I prefer to read paragraph by paragraph. But whenever Voiceover encounters a page break, it starts reading character by character.I have taking this issue to Apple Accessibility and they have not been able to help.My Word documents are 300 to 400 pages long. Can anyone please advise?Thanks,Moiz.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at cara...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisi...@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/87e88eef-030b-429e-a5f5-228bd978247an%40googlegroups.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at cara...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisi...@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/17d67e66-0a2c-40f5-b81e-5824f86a657an%40googlegroups.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@cara

Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit

['jason' via MacVisionaries]

Quick Look can also read a variety of file formats. When you want to edit, of course, you’ll need to use whichever editor you prefer. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on behalf of John Panarese Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 16:00To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading on Pages and Text Edit    Actually, Brad had a great idea. Try to open it in Safari and see how it reads there. Take CareJohn D. PanareseDirectorMac for the BlindTel, (631) 724-4479Email, j...@macfortheblind.comWebsite, http://www.macfortheblind.comAPPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and TrainerAUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATEMAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORTOn Jan 25, 2024, at 3:27 PM, moiz tundawala  wrote: Hi John,Nice to know that you are on the group too.Sadly it's not working out for me on Text Edit. I have tried all the options that you suggested.Also, I don't want to open the document in a web brouzer. This is because I want to have the option of editing it if required.On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 6:16:38 PM UTC wb...@swbell.net wrote:Have you tried opening the file in a browser, such as Safari, Chrome or even Brave on your Mac? - Brad -On Jan 25, 2024, at 07:59, moiz tundawala  wrote:Thanks for your response. As I mentioned, in Text Edit, I am not being able to read paragraph by paragraph. When Voiceover moves to a new page, it reads the first paragraph character by character. The subsequent paragraphs are read properly, and then once again after a page break,  I encounter the same problem. I have tried all possible options, with quick nav on and off, as well as keyboard commanders.On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 5:12:10 PM UTC thepian...@gmail.com wrote:For things of that length I usually convert to text and read in TextEdit. I’ve never had a problem with that. From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com  on behalf of moiz tundawala Date: Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 10:53 AMTo: MacVisionaries Subject: Reading on Pages and Text EditHiWhat is the best way to read book length documents on Mac?I have large Word files from my Windows computer. These files take a lot of time loading on Mac when I open them on Word.With Pages and Text Edit, I am facing a strange problem. I prefer to read paragraph by paragraph. But whenever Voiceover encounters a page break, it starts reading character by character.I have taking this issue to Apple Accessibility and they have not been able to help.My Word documents are 300 to 400 pages long. Can anyone please advise?Thanks,Moiz.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at cara...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisi...@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/87e88eef-030b-429e-a5f5-228bd978247an%40googlegroups.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at cara...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisi...@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/17d67e66-0a2c-40f5-b81e-5824f86a657an%40googlegroups.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this