Mac mail server settings disappeared. Help Please
Hi there, I went to enter a App Specific Password into my Mac Mail Gmail account server settings only to find they are no longer visable. In fact all the mail account server settings have gone except for an Outlook account. They were visable 2 weeks ago as I updated the password on one of them and it was straight forward. Looking online there seems to have been various problems similar over the years. I have been unable to find a way of resolving this problem. Does anyone have any idea’s? I am fairly new to computing , so any simple instructions would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance, Ron. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F5B75138-D68C-48CD-8D1B-C9F5CA1AE146%40googlemail.com.
Mac mail server settings disappeared. Help Please
Hi there, I went to enter a App Specific Password into my Mac Mail Gmail account server settings only to find they are no longer visable. In fact all the mail account server settings have gone except for an Outlook account. They were visable 2 weeks ago as I updated the password on one of them and it was straight forward. Looking online there seems to have been various problems similar over the years. I have been unable to find a way of resolving this problem. Does anyone have any idea’s? I am fairly new to computing , so any simple instructions would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance, Ron. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/521342EF-D391-4DAE-ADD9-8B1697D85F6D%40googlemail.com.
Mac mail server settings disappeared. Help Please
Hi there, I went to enter a App Specific Password into my Mac Mail Gmail account server settings only to find they are no longer visable. In fact all the mail account server settings have gone except for an Outlook account. They were visable 2 weeks ago as I updated the password on one of them and it was straight forward. Looking online there seems to have been various problems similar over the years. I have been unable to find a way of resolving this problem. Does anyone have any idea’s? I am fairly new to computing , so any simple instructions would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance, Ron. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/64116332-8125-4D1F-81BC-8FD95FBBF3C3%40googlemail.com.
Re: CopyClip clipboard manager for Safari - Has anyone got this to work?
Hi there, I have discovered if I simulate a mouse click then I do get a clipboard history list. However I don’t get any other options such as preferences etc. Thanks again, Ron. > On 26 Feb 2022, at 16:50, dan d. wrote: > > After launching the app. and when desired;hit the menu bar command twice. > This brings up the menu extras menu bar. The clip app should be a choice. > On the menu that appears. Auto launching at bootup should be a choice under > the menu. preferences item. > > On Sat, 26 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >> Hi there, thanks forr the reply. If I opem Copyclip from the application >> folder I get the message ???copyclip has no windows???. If I copy some text >> from Safari to my clipboard I thought there should atbe a copyclip option in >> the menu bar. This is not there and if I go back to copyclip via Aplication >> folder I get the original message of no window. Maybe I am approaching it >> incorrectly? Ron. >> >> >>> On 25 Feb 2022, at 15:41, dan d. wrote: >>> >>> >>> That was the prior version to flycut, free on the app store. I used it >>> before flycut, what have you found not to work? Both install the same >>> and work the same. Flycut has more features. >>> >>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there, has anyone used CopyClip.? It is a no frills clipboard manager >>>> that was recommended, but I have been unable to get it to work. I am using >>>> upto date Monterrey. Thhanks in advance for any help. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ent- >>> XR >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/bd68d373-7d61-9855-c3b-a12eaf6280be%40gmail.com. >> >> > > -- > ent- > XR > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/d42e74f2-98c8-4eb0-bca8-ead66f6442c5%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F2BAC6CC-DC22-4C32-A415-EF432067E4AC%40googlemail.com.
Re: CopyClip clipboard manager for Safari - Has anyone got this to work?
Hi there, I was lookimg in the standard menu bar -wrong place! Yes it is in the menu extra’s bar as you said. However when I click this nothing happens. I will try uninstalling and then re-installing, thanks Ron. > On 26 Feb 2022, at 16:50, dan d. wrote: > > After launching the app. and when desired;hit the menu bar command twice. > This brings up the menu extras menu bar. The clip app should be a choice. > On the menu that appears. Auto launching at bootup should be a choice under > the menu. preferences item. > > On Sat, 26 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >> Hi there, thanks forr the reply. If I opem Copyclip from the application >> folder I get the message ???copyclip has no windows???. If I copy some text >> from Safari to my clipboard I thought there should atbe a copyclip option in >> the menu bar. This is not there and if I go back to copyclip via Aplication >> folder I get the original message of no window. Maybe I am approaching it >> incorrectly? Ron. >> >> >>> On 25 Feb 2022, at 15:41, dan d. wrote: >>> >>> >>> That was the prior version to flycut, free on the app store. I used it >>> before flycut, what have you found not to work? Both install the same >>> and work the same. Flycut has more features. >>> >>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there, has anyone used CopyClip.? It is a no frills clipboard manager >>>> that was recommended, but I have been unable to get it to work. I am using >>>> upto date Monterrey. Thhanks in advance for any help. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ent- >>> XR >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/bd68d373-7d61-9855-c3b-a12eaf6280be%40gmail.com. >> >> > > -- > ent- > XR > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/d42e74f2-98c8-4eb0-bca8-ead66f6442c5%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3A183EAA-FB7D-476D-BE6D-E9D6CD3584F9%40googlemail.com.
Re: CopyClip clipboard manager for Safari - Has anyone got this to work?
Hi there, thanks for the reply, I will check that out, Ron. > On 25 Feb 2022, at 17:00, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > I use > CloudClip Manager - Version 1.4.2.45 > by Thinkbitz Software Studio. > Free on the App Store. > > > >> On Feb 25, 2022, at 1:57 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi there, has anyone used CopyClip.? It is a no frills clipboard manager >> that was recommended, but I have been unable to get it to work. I am using >> upto date Monterrey. Thhanks in advance for any help. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7C5CDB74-C141-4E00-A351-A35BA5A71FDD%40googlemail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0F189E06-2DEB-4997-B9AF-882E000EFC52%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F2A2B950-C583-455A-8C0C-153DB9B486EE%40googlemail.com.
Re: CopyClip clipboard manager for Safari - Has anyone got this to work?
Hi there, thanks forr the reply. If I opem Copyclip from the application folder I get the message “copyclip has no windows”. If I copy some text from Safari to my clipboard I thought there should be a copyclip option in the menu bar. This is not there and if I go back to copyclip via Aplication folder I get the original message of no window. Maybe I am approaching it incorrectly? Ron. > On 25 Feb 2022, at 15:41, dan d. wrote: > > > That was the prior version to flycut, free on the app store. I used it > before flycut, what have you found not to work? Both install the same > and work the same. Flycut has more features. > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >> Hi there, has anyone used CopyClip.? It is a no frills clipboard manager >> that was recommended, but I have been unable to get it to work. I am using >> upto date Monterrey. Thhanks in advance for any help. >> >> > > -- > ent- > XR > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/bd68d373-7d61-9855-c3b-a12eaf6280be%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7E9F0F38-D7AB-4E17-ABF6-64FD58255819%40googlemail.com.
CopyClip clipboard manager for Safari - Has anyone got this to work?
Hi there, has anyone used CopyClip.? It is a no frills clipboard manager that was recommended, but I have been unable to get it to work. I am using upto date Monterrey. Thhanks in advance for any help. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7C5CDB74-C141-4E00-A351-A35BA5A71FDD%40googlemail.com.
Re: TextEdit, moving / altering the margins, Help please.
thanks for the reply, I think the problem was that I had forgotton what to do! Seem to have gotten it sorted now. Thanks again Ron. > On 17 Dec 2021, at 17:22, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > They should be in the ruler. Do you still see the ruler and are you able to > interact with it? > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Dec 17, 2021, at 02:37, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Tim, that explains why I could not figure out how to do it. Many >> thanks for your advice. However the indent markers no longer seem to be >> available. Have I somehow switched them off?, Ron >> . >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 16 Dec 2021, at 17:56, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> According to this Apple Support document, you cannot change the margins in >>> TextEdit, you’ll need to open it in Pages if you wish to change margins. >>> >>> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/textedit/txte313927e3/mac >>> >>> Also, note that when using VoiceOver, you set a tab by pressing VO-space on >>> the ruler location, VO-delete will remove the tab at that location. Adjust >>> tabs by interacting with the tab, then using VO-left or VO-right to move it >>> left or right. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>>> On Dec 16, 2021, at 07:15, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am trying to set the margins smaller to print closer to the edge of the >>>> paper, likewise with the header and footer. I would also like to set this >>>> as the default. II have enabled the ruler but haven't been able to >>>> acomplish the above. Anyone able to offer any pointers in the right >>>> direction, thanks Ron. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AB419546-EE86-4C11-B204-C776F19EF784%40googlemail.com. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.g
Re: TextEdit, moving / altering the margins, Help please.
Thanks Tim, that explains why I could not figure out how to do it. Many thanks for your advice. However the indent markers no longer seem to be available. Have I somehow switched them off?, Ron . > On 16 Dec 2021, at 17:56, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > According to this Apple Support document, you cannot change the margins in > TextEdit, you’ll need to open it in Pages if you wish to change margins. > > https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/textedit/txte313927e3/mac > > Also, note that when using VoiceOver, you set a tab by pressing VO-space on > the ruler location, VO-delete will remove the tab at that location. Adjust > tabs by interacting with the tab, then using VO-left or VO-right to move it > left or right. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Dec 16, 2021, at 07:15, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I am trying to set the margins smaller to print closer to the edge of the >> paper, likewise with the header and footer. I would also like to set this as >> the default. II have enabled the ruler but haven't been able to acomplish >> the above. Anyone able to offer any pointers in the right direction, thanks >> Ron. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AB419546-EE86-4C11-B204-C776F19EF784%40googlemail.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B5427741-14AE-4D14-AC9E-6A771741B960%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6EC39512-8EC5-43EE-8492-395FB073C69A%40googlemail.com.
TextEdit, moving / altering the margins, Help please.
I am trying to set the margins smaller to print closer to the edge of the paper, likewise with the header and footer. I would also like to set this as the default. II have enabled the ruler but haven't been able to acomplish the above. Anyone able to offer any pointers in the right direction, thanks Ron. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AB419546-EE86-4C11-B204-C776F19EF784%40googlemail.com.
Re: Formatting a draft email im Apple mail - unable to figure this out? Advice appreciated.
Hi there, thanks for the reply, but unfortunately that did not solve the problem., Ron. > On 4 Dec 2021, at 16:20, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > > On 4/12/21 10:11, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> Hi there, Does anyone have any advice on how to do this? I highlite the text >> and go to format, change the font size but it snaps back to the original >> setting and the text is unchanged. > I don't use Apple Mail these days, so this might not help, but I would > suggest checking whether you're composing an HTML message. If you're creating > a plain text message instead, formatting cannot be applied to it. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/76be2502-402d-7b8e-556a-396371abd53e%40jasonjgw.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AD184766-6D8B-4A23-85F3-D99266ACD0CE%40googlemail.com.
Formatting a draft email im Apple mail - unable to figure this out? Advice appreciated.
Hi there, Does anyone have any advice on how to do this? I highlite the text and go to format, change the font size but it snaps back to the original setting and the text is unchanged. Thank you in advance. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/95a34d06-0acf-494e-91ed-488a4e66ce23n%40googlegroups.com.
Backing up an iPhone or iPad to a MacBook Air
Hi there, I’m trying to back up my iPad to my MacBook Air but I get the following message welcome / s et up your new iPad. I’ve had no problem backing up my iPhone, But I am unable to back up the iPad or even a previous iPhone. Has anyone any ideas, am I doing something wrong. I’m following the same procedure as the original backing up of the iPhone Thanks in advance. Ron.? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2b6e2ffa-435e-4b9a-aaee-d3c773036969n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...
tim, thenks for the info, I’ll give that a try… > On 28 Sep 2021, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > There are certain areas, such as HTML areas within a browser or Mail, that do > not support the Page UP/Down action. This is likely due to the fact that > these are not actually pages like in a word processing document or a PDF > document. In a PDF for example, interact with the first page, press FN-down > a few times and you should hear VO announce “down” as it progresses down the > pages of the document. Once it has moved down, use VO navigation to start > reading, do not simply use arrow navigation as you’ll find that the cursor > remains where it was to begin with. This process is definitely not > foolproof, but works most times when in a scenario where page markers are > present. > > HTH. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:55 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I can’t execute page up or down with fn+up arrow or down arrow. It just >> doesn’t work. I’ve not found the way to move by page ever. :) >> >> Andrew >> >>> On 28 Sep 2021, at 12:06, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, >>> however when trying to go page up or down get a error sound. I hvbe tried >>> on different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know what the >>> [roblem is >>> >>> >>>> On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI. >>> >>>> naries wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page >>>> Up/Down and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice. Press >>>> VO-k to engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys. You will >>>> hear left, right up and down. Hold down the FN key, the key in the lower >>>> left of the keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO. You will >>>> hear Page Up, Page Down, Home and End along with the action it performs. >>>> Note that it is moving the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard cursor. >>>> >>>> Later… >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam >>>>> folder. >>>>> Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am >>>>> using a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again. >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get >>>>> the Page Up/Down action. Use FN plus left and right to achieve the >>>>> Home/End actions. >>>>> >>>>> Later… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which >>>>>> doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts? >>>>>> Regards Ron. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a
Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...
Hi Andrew, I was beginning ti think I was doing something wrong! Thanks for the reply, rom. > On 28 Sep 2021, at 13:55, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I can’t execute page up or down with fn+up arrow or down arrow. It just > doesn’t work. I’ve not found the way to move by page ever. :) > > Andrew > >> On 28 Sep 2021, at 12:06, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, >> however when trying to go page up or down get a error sound. I hvbe tried >> on different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know what the >> [roblem is >> >> >>> On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI. >> >>> naries wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page >>> Up/Down and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice. Press >>> VO-k to engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys. You will hear >>> left, right up and down. Hold down the FN key, the key in the lower left >>> of the keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO. You will hear Page >>> Up, Page Down, Home and End along with the action it performs. Note that >>> it is moving the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard cursor. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam folder. >>>> Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am >>>> using a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again. >>>> >>>> On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get the >>>> Page Up/Down action. Use FN plus left and right to achieve the Home/End >>>> actions. >>>> >>>> Later… >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which >>>>> doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts? >>>>> Regards Ron. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/31A0C232-56AF-4AE5-9612-06F44D1F49DF%40googlemail.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of
Re: No page up or down on MacBook Air...
Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. The keyboard help does exactly as you say, however when trying to go page up or down get a error sound. I hvbe tried on different lengths of page with the same result! So I don’t know what the [roblem is > On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:07, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisioaI. > naries wrote: > > Hi, > > You can confirm that the key combinations I’ve mentioned are the Page Up/Down > and Home/End by enabling the VoiceOver Keyboard Practice. Press VO-k to > engage Keyboard Practice, then press the arrow keys. You will hear left, > right up and down. Hold down the FN key, the key in the lower left of the > keyboard, and listen to what is announced by VO. You will hear Page Up, Page > Down, Home and End along with the action it performs. Note that it is moving > the VoiceOver cursor, not the keyboard cursor. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:13 AM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying. This had gone to my spam folder. >> Still can not scroll up or down using the fn arrow down/up keys! I am using >> a 2018 Macbook air if that makes any difference? Thanks again. >> >> On 30 Aug 2021, at 20:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> If you hold down the FN key while pressing the up/down arrows, you get the >> Page Up/Down action. Use FN plus left and right to achieve the Home/End >> actions. >> >> Later… >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which >>> doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts? >>> Regards Ron. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/31A0C232-56AF-4AE5-9612-06F44D1F49DF%40googlemail.com. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/macvisionaries/bnJ6QwNUxVY/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/05E08C89-6606-47B8-B1B0-E4C0F44C5244%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >&
Re: Fn right up or fn down arrow
> On 30 Aug 2021, at 19:00, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > I believe I sent a correction that suggested that I got things reversed. > The Fn key does the following: > Switch the F1 to F10 keys from sending the media functions and the F > functions. > 1-10 in Touch Pad Macs might send F1 to F10. > Left = Home > Up = PageUp > Right = End > Down = PageDown > q = quick note (in beta versions ) > e= > > F=full screen > > I know that G will do something at least in beta, but I have no idea what. > > > > > > Hi there Jonathan are you referring to a touch bar mac? as I don’t have the keys available on the 2018 Macbook air running the latest version of Big Sur. I am getting confused. cmd down arrow or up arrow does take the cursor to the top or bottom of a document , but what I am looking for is a way of scrolling page by page in documents , web pages etc. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Regards Ron. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C4921D2C-DC26-4005-A35D-CB1D8CC63854%40googlemail.com.
Fn right up or fn down arrow
Meant to say fn righght or left arrow seems to take the cursor to the top or bottom of the window rather than scrolling. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DD1A26DB-7BBA-4CB5-AA86-8045467682A1%40googlemail.com.
No page up or down on MacBook Air...
Thanks for the reply Jonathen, however I am using a MacBook Air which doesn’t have a page up or down key. Any other thoughts? Regards Ron. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/31A0C232-56AF-4AE5-9612-06F44D1F49DF%40googlemail.com.
Page scrolling
hi Jonathan thanks for the reply, yes you are correct and the screen is scrolling with the 3 finger swipe when I check with touch navigation. I know cmd up arrow takes the focus to the top or botom of the screen., but how do you scroll pages with keys? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4B0AF9F2-AF0F-4B5E-B5B3-BF0AC16AFB5C%40googlemail.com.
