Re: The IPhone and Battery Life
Hi Scott, On your point about screen curtain on VO and the macbook not reducing battery consumption, there is a good reason for that. Screen curtain only sets the color of the screen to black. It does not turn off the backlight. To get the best of both worlds on your macbook, that is, privacy and prolonging battery life, you can alter brightness on the fly by using the function (fn) key plus F1 or F2 to increase or decrease, respectively. Setting the brightness to zero on the macbook does wonders for battery life. Location service on the iPhone is a major power hog. I'm sure you will need to use it from time to time, but if it's the case that you travel regular routes for most of your days, it may be better that you turn it on only when you need it. I've gotten at least twice as much usage time having it off. Best, A On 25 Oct 2009, at 17:23, Scott Howell wrote: > > Hey Pete, good point, I wasn't sure that would really help since I > think someone had brought this up for discussion a while back where > laptops were concerned and it was determined that the screen curtain > didn't offer much in terms of battery savings. Perhaps the screen on > the iPHone is a bit different? Of course I'm very interested in what > others experience is with the iPhone and battery life and not just in > how to conserve it. > > thanks, > On Oct 25, 2009, at 11:09 AM, peter apgar wrote: > >> >> for the same results three finger triple tap and it will turn on >> screen curtain. this will give you the same battery life extension >> and if you ever want someone to look at some thing all you need to do >> is three finger triple tap and it will be back to full brightness. >> >> Pete >> On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:21 AM, >> Jensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Scott. >>> >>> Have you set the brighness to 0? That helped a lot on my phone. >>> Best regards >>> Søren Jensen >>> Mail & MSN: >>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>> Website: >>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>> >>> Den Oct 25, 2009 kl. 11:58 AM skrev Scott Howell: >>> Folks, I have had my iPhone for about two weeks now and I'm enjoying all the benefits a great deal. I however am a little concerned about the battery life, which going into this I knew was not going to be quite as good as what I had been experiencing with my Motorola Q9 running MobileSpeak. I also realize there are a number of factors, which will impact battery performance and I have gotten a little feedback from someone, but I'd like to try to get a bit more. I imagine it is possible there is an issue with my phone, but perhaps not and I think it is worth checking this entire issue out. Here is a little about my usage, area I use the phone in, etc. that may help explain my observations. 1. I have WI-FI off, 3G on, Data Roaming off, and Location Services on. 2. I generally turn my phone on about 3:00 a.m. 3. I listen to podcast or some streaming content for about half an hour to 45 minutes in the morning. 4. Maybe a couple of calls lasting less than 10 minutes during the day and I do mean just a couple. 5. I will check e-mail for about 15 to 20 minutes on my ride home (it's hard to type on a bouncing bus) :). 6. I get home about 5:00 p.m. and my battery is down to 30 to 40 percent. On my motorola Q I of course only use it for voice communications because I just did not like using MSS for surfing etc. Saying this I realize the iPhone does a lot more in data transactions, so I anticipate needing to charge more frequently than the Motorola and I understand VOiceOver will certainly have an impact on battery life, but perhaps more than it should and I suspect this will only improve. Now my friend who also has an iPhone, but does not use VoiceOver can get a couple of days and his primary use is surfing the web and he probably does this for a couple of hours during the day. I also know one person who responded to me who got several days, but the usage was light in her particular situation. So, with all this said, I'd like to get some idea of what folks are getting out of their phones in terms of battery performance. If I turn off 3G and VO during the times I'm in the office and not needing either, I am sure I'd be ahead, but what is clear to me is if I had to carry the phone all day and I'm talking for 16 to 18 hours, I know it would not be possible and the phone would require a charge. Of course having to turn this and that off just doesn't make sense and it is obvious to me these phones are capable of performing quite well with the battery they have, but of course any screen reader will have some impact. My greatest concern is partly do to the fact I'm looking for a g
Re: Free public transport app for Denmark [was Re: navigation on iphone.]
hehe... Will there are times I think you type a bit too fast, such that it takes a bit of decoding to figure out your messages :) To answer your question, there are a number of apps specifically geared toward transport for London. As I recall, you are in Conventry, so this may be of no use to you. Yet still, it's a shame that TFL has yet to come up with an iPhone (or any mobile phone) app that performs all functions of their web site. Best, A On 24 Oct 2009, at 15:28, will wrote: > > does tiw rok in UK for buses etc? > > - Original Message - > From: "Søren Jensen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:26 PM > Subject: Re: Free public transport app for Denmark [was Re: > navigation on > iphone.] > > > > Yeah. This app is both awesome and fuly accessible. I didn't thought > other people was interested in danish apps here on this list. :) > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > Den Oct 22, 2009 kl. 6:23 PM skrev Esther: > >> >> Hi Nic, Abdul, Søren, >> >> The free transport app for train, bus, and metro schedules in Danish/ >> English/German doesn't show up in the U.S. app store, but here's the >> link, in case Holly or somebody else wants to keep track (public >> transport in Denmark): >> >> http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=317007942&mt=8 >> (Rejseplanen by HaCon Ingenieurges. mbH) >> >> This seems available in all European iTunes stores, but not in the >> U.S. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Abdul >>> >>> Thanks a lot. I'll definitely try that if I get a chance. :). >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Abdul Kamara wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Nicolai and Søren, >>>> I'm not sure how many Danske Folk there are on this list. But for >>>> public transport in Denmark there is a rejseplanen app for the >>>> iPhone. It's been a life saver for me. >>>> best, >>>> a >>>> >>>> On 13 Oct 2009, at 18:13, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> Can it handle bus routes? Just in case I will need to take a bus, >>>>> is >>>>> this possible somehow with the iPhone? Or is that out of the >>>>> question? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Nic >>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>> My Twitter >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Nic, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have Navigon Europe on my iPhone and have used it in France >>>>>> (where I >>>>>> live), England, Spain and Portugal. I don't use it for walking >>>>>> around >>>>>> the village where I live as its maps aren't good enough around >>>>>> here. >>>>>> `i tried Maps as well for routes in my village, but it gives me >>>>>> silly >>>>>> ways of getting to places that are longer than the routes I know. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Anne >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a question that's been plaguing for a little while now. >>>>>>> Does >>>>>>> it support multiple countries? I'm speaking about apps such as >>>>>>> Navigon. I would assume logically that it does, but you never >>>>>>> know, >>>>>>> right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Nic >>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>>> My Twitter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:08 PM, May McDonald wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't tried navigon yet but would like to. Right now I use >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> maps app that's already on the phone and it works just fine for >>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>> On 7-Jan-01, at 10:22 AM, sandi sørensen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the subject says it all, what do you use for navigating on >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>> iphone? >>>>>>>>> Have tried navigon but since there is no maps where i walk it >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> kinda >>>>>>>>> interestingwhen walking too a waypoint. >>>>>>>>> /sandi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: navigation on iphone.
Hi Nicolai and Søren, I'm not sure how many Danske Folk there are on this list. But for public transport in Denmark there is a rejseplanen app for the iPhone. It's been a life saver for me. best, a On 13 Oct 2009, at 18:13, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi > > Can it handle bus routes? Just in case I will need to take a bus, is > this possible somehow with the iPhone? Or is that out of the question? > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> >> Hello Nic, >> >> I have Navigon Europe on my iPhone and have used it in France >> (where I >> live), England, Spain and Portugal. I don't use it for walking around >> the village where I live as its maps aren't good enough around here. >> `i tried Maps as well for routes in my village, but it gives me silly >> ways of getting to places that are longer than the routes I know. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a question that's been plaguing for a little while now. Does >>> it support multiple countries? I'm speaking about apps such as >>> Navigon. I would assume logically that it does, but you never know, >>> right? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:08 PM, May McDonald wrote: >>> I haven't tried navigon yet but would like to. Right now I use the maps app that's already on the phone and it works just fine for me. On 7-Jan-01, at 10:22 AM, sandi sørensen wrote: > > the subject says it all, what do you use for navigating on your > iphone? > Have tried navigon but since there is no maps where i walk it is > kinda > interestingwhen walking too a waypoint. > /sandi > > >> > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: taking iphone for long-term visit to Britain, do I get it unlocked?
Hi Rebecca, Assuming you've yet to upgrade your iPhone to OS v3.1, you could "jail break" (unlock) the phone. However, such a move would be nothing short of a cat and mouse game. Depending on how long you'll be on this side of the pond, the anxiety may not be worth it. I should also add that to my knowledge, there are currently no available solutions to "jail breaking" v3.1. Assuming you can jail break at all, you can find on most high streets through Britain a shop or kiosk that offer unlocking services for 10 pounds. I often travel between Britain and Denmark, and the phone companies of both countries seem to be fairly flexible and accommodating of customers traveling abroad. AT&T has the power to unlock the phone. I would suggest asking them to explain the extraordinary circumstances under which they'd be inclined to release your phone. This is an aside, but Denmark has a law requiring mobile telecoms to unlock phones on demand if not after a the six month contract is over. The UK has a similar rule, though less rigid. It would be great if there was similar legislation in the States. Perhaps this should be a new area that a coalition of consumer groups for the disabled should tackle. Otherwise, as previously suggested, you could get a cheap phone and pop in a pay as you go cim. Of course you may not need to buy a whole new phone. If you have been an AT&T or T-mobile customer Pre-iPhone. or any GSM carrier for that matter, you can use that phone you previously had during your travels. As for pay-as-you-go services, I would recommend Talk Mobile. They are among the cheapest for domestic calls within the UK and international calls as well. You can call the US for as little as 2p a minute. Best, A On 14 Oct 2009, at 16:40, Rebecca Redmile wrote: > > What are the dangers both technically and financially of doing this? > Please don't anybody write and suggest I get a roaming plan, ... I > havea three-year contract already and would like to keep costs as low > as I can. But I don't know anythig about unlocking a phone. Any > suggestions? > Rebecca > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Microsoft stores to mimic Apple's with "Guru Bars"
Oh how sad... I bet the people at Microsoft were "squirting" all over each other Zoons in hand when they came up with that... Yeah, this is one of few areas where I would criticize Apple. It is problematic when Geniuses know nothing about the accessibility components of the operating system, or at least, not reliably so.. to the extent that they could demonstrate it in house. Best, Abdul Best, A On 25 Jul 2009, at 04:20, Scott Howell wrote: > WOw, maybe Microsoft is feeling a little pressured to try emulating > Apple even more? This should prove quite fascinating and I assume > with all these PCs they plan to sell, would mean third-party deals > with Dell and other companies. What is interesting is if they will > have demos of the windows-based screen readers. :) > > Begin forwarded message: > >> Date: July 24, 2009 9:20:00 PM EDT >> Subject: Microsoft stores to mimic Apple's with "Guru Bars" >> Source: AppleInsider >> >> A leaked presentation has exposed Microsoft's tentative plans for >> its retail stores -- and the high degree to which they'll imitate >> Apple stores, down to their layouts and even the presence of a >> dedicated "Guru Bar" for help. >> Read more… >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next year
I'm more inclined to think it will be more web focused, not telephony. I'd be impressed if unlike the iPhone or iPod Touch, it would provide for more choice of input devices be it via USB or BlueTooth. But again, we speculate. Until then, back I go to scheming on the purchase of an iPhone. Best, Abdul On 24 Jul 2009, at 23:30, Scott Howell wrote: > Yes, I've ben reading a good deal on this as well and so it really > is not much of a surprise. There was some interesting bits tossed > into the article, but in any event, I will be curious as well. I > gather it will have at least one or two usb ports, be capable of > video conferencing, and well generally it will be targeting I get > the impression that perhaps it will have more horsepower and perhaps > ram, but the overall interface apparently will be the same or mighty > close to the iPhone and iPod Touch. Now what I find interesting is > if this thing is to be another iPhone if you will, I wonder how it > will work as far as no one is going to hold this monster up to their > head and I imagine a bluetooth earphone will be a must or some > headphone. > So, it will be interesting to learn as this progresses. Of course > one other thing that is interesting is the keyboard will certainly > be larger. > On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Abdul Kamara wrote: > >> Gosh, >> >> I guess I should be thrilled about this. But it's a bit >> anticlimactic. My sense is, the article is sourced from a >> calculated leak on the part of Apple, to stoke a bit of excitement >> about a rollout most people saw coming. >> >> That said, I'd be very interested to see the difference in design >> approach of the much speculated Netbook/tablet to that of the >> iPhone/iPod Touch. >> >> On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Folks there has been a lot of talk about a tablet computer from >>> Apple. I consider this a reliable resource and so feel sharing >>> this article will shed some light and history on the upcoming >>> product. >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> Date: July 24, 2009 11:55:00 AM EDT >>>> Subject: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next >>>> year >>>> Source: AppleInsider >>>> >>>> Exclusive: After four years of meticulous of developmental >>>> riddled with setbacks, Apple is now racing toward an early 2010 >>>> launch of a device that may see the electronics maker redefine >>>> the portable computing market for the second time in twice as >>>> many years. >>>> Read more… >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next year
Gosh, I guess I should be thrilled about this. But it's a bit anticlimactic. My sense is, the article is sourced from a calculated leak on the part of Apple, to stoke a bit of excitement about a rollout most people saw coming. That said, I'd be very interested to see the difference in design approach of the much speculated Netbook/tablet to that of the iPhone/ iPod Touch. On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Scott Howell wrote: > Folks there has been a lot of talk about a tablet computer from > Apple. I consider this a reliable resource and so feel sharing this > article will shed some light and history on the upcoming product. > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> Date: July 24, 2009 11:55:00 AM EDT >> Subject: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next >> year >> Source: AppleInsider >> >> Exclusive: After four years of meticulous of developmental riddled >> with setbacks, Apple is now racing toward an early 2010 launch of a >> device that may see the electronics maker redefine the portable >> computing market for the second time in twice as many years. >> Read more… >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro Speakers
Hi Keith, I agree with much of what has been said on the topic so far... The output seems to be the same and quality is too subjective a thing on which to make a definitive claim. What I can say is there are possibly other considerations you should take more onboard, assuming you haven't already. I don't know about you, but there are only a few times I travel without my macbook, and I am on the road a lot. It is my source of entertainment, communications and the means through which much of my work is done. In my case, size really does matter-- the smaller the better. Weight is a moot issue, as much of it is on my back. It is possible that you are looking at spending $200 for an additional 2 inches you may not need, and (if you're as persnikity as I am about these things) the 15 inch may agitate some space issues when on the road. If it's simply that you are low vision, and would benefit from a larger screen, then get the 15 inch. Otherwise, less is more. Best, Abdul On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:34, Keith Bucher wrote: > > Hello, > >I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15 > inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a. > >I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy. The 15 inch > model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch > model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath > it. > >I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the > volume of the speakers between these two models. To me, the 15 inch > MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if it > would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in > price. I have been unable to find specifications on the size of > the speakers used in each model. But from what I could tell in that > fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly > similar when comparing these two computers. Thanks for any > information. > > > Keith > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where might i find a plugin for isync?
Greetings, I sympathize... Much of the site appears to be festooned with flash animation-- which they do provide the option of deactivating... Here is the page you are looking for... http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-and-software/product-support/isync/compatibility-and-download When you get to the page, use the item chooser menu (VO-Key + I) and type E66. It will narrow down to the only entry on that page. Select it, and move the VO cursor to the right which should read "Download". It will not read as a link, but don't be fooled, it is. On the page that follows, select the "Accept and Start Download" link-- as I'm certain you would have no issue with the software license agreement. The linkbutton should be about the third or forth object from the start of the page.. I hope this helps. Best, Abdul On 24 Jul 2009, at 12:31, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hi good people. > I'm about to sell my Nokia E66 and want to sync my contacts and such > to my Mac so that i can get it onto my Iphone when i finally get it. I > tried just using isync with my phone but that didn't work so now i > wonder if anyone knows about a plugin for syncing the Nokia E66 via > Isync and where i might obtain it. If anyone could provide a direct > link to the plugin i would be greatful since the nokia site is very > messy to say the least. > Thankful for any and all help. > /Krister > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: can some one respond let me know if my emails are reaching the list please?
Confirmed, your email got through. On 15 Jul 2009, at 11:54, hank smith wrote: > hello I have been trying to post to the group I realize I can't see > my own emails but others on the list I talk to say they don't see my > emails either > if this is getting threw > can some one please please please respond and let me know? > Hank > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple plans to blick rival smart phones
Hi James, I found the article referenced and the discussion on "This Week in Tech" (TWIT), podcasted on the 12th of this month, rather interesting. Objectively, it can be said that by blocking the Pre, Apple is practicing the same anti-competitive monopolistic behavior characteristic of Microsoft throughout the mid to late 90s. And that would be a valid argument. However, as with most things, the devil is in the details. Apple is vertically consolidated, to the degree that it is able to control the quality of its products and the environment in which it is used by its customers. It is a level of quality assurance that Microsoft, Palm, Dell, LeNovo and other major competitors are unable to match. The article points out that Apple had warned they would no longer support media sync for non-ipod digital audio devices. And why should they? As such, Apple would be expected to support devices that would not be under their sphere of control. I think it is Apple's sense (on which I would completely agree) that it is better to produce and maintain a seemless but highly functional echo system of products and services that consistently work, and where thusly the issue of choice in third party products in line with that echo system is rendered moot. Palm argues that Apple is cutting its nose to spite its face. I doubt it. I think a large part of why people would choose a Palm over an iPhone is because they would be working from the notion that the iPhone would be insufficient in meeting business needs, i.e., iPhones are for any old consumers, Palms and Blackberries are for serious people. I think that perception will soon change; and Palm will once again be in a difficult position after having resigned themselves to the reality of things. The iTunes/iPod/iPhone is one of the most popular consumer platforms of electronic products and services, and whining about it ain't gonna get you anywhere. Abdul On 17 Jul 2009, at 23:03, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > From the BBC website: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8155795.stm > > Take care > > james > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
