Re: IOS 8.4 messaging question

[Randy George]

The same way ppl receive multimedia messages now, mms. I can send videos to 
anyone but not voice only? Doesnt make sense to me. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Well the thing about it is, how would the nonApple user receive the voice 
> message?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Randy george  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, another example of apple over-advertising a function.  The
>> documentation says nothing about only being able to send voice
>> messages to other apple users...what a bummer.
>> 
>> Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
>> 
>>> On 7/24/15, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
>>> I believe you can only send recorded messages to other iPhone users if they
>>> do not have access to the apple network that feature will not work.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy george
>>> Sent: July 24, 2015 09:54
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: IOS 8.4 messaging question
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Sorry, this is probably a stupid question but I'm hoping someone can help me
>>> out.  Just got an iPhone 6 and the user manual says that I can send voice
>>> messages as well as text messages.  I am able to get to the voice aspect of
>>> the messaging if I compose a new message to someone, however, if I already
>>> have an existing conversation going I have not found any way to bring up the
>>> voice messaging feature.  VO says to double tap and hold the attach media
>>> button for fast options, but when I do that nothing happens.
>>> 
>>> Also, a bug report for anyone interested...I set up my medical ID in the
>>> health app, and ever since then anytime I do anything in the phone app VO
>>> says "medical ID" everytime I tap or move to anywhere in the app.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>>> On 7/24/15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Try wild montana skies instead *lol*.
>>>> /A
>>>>> 23 juli 2015 kl. 12:52 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do really like his stuff.  I've not done much though of his stuff
>>>>> aside Take me Home Country Roads.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I should try doing Leaving on a Jetplane.  Now, you got me thinking.
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "'Gabriele Battaglia' via
>>>>> MacVisionaries" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: What about Logic Pro?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Chris, you've been very detailed and helpful.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, I will consider buy it.
>>>>>> Thanks also for your singing example, you recalled me  a bit, John
>>>>>> Denver. :)
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Re: IOS 8.4 messaging question

[Randy george]

Wow, another example of apple over-advertising a function.  The
documentation says nothing about only being able to send voice
messages to other apple users...what a bummer.

Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

On 7/24/15, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
> I believe you can only send recorded messages to other iPhone users if they
> do not have access to the apple network that feature will not work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy george
> Sent: July 24, 2015 09:54
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: IOS 8.4 messaging question
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Sorry, this is probably a stupid question but I'm hoping someone can help me
> out.  Just got an iPhone 6 and the user manual says that I can send voice
> messages as well as text messages.  I am able to get to the voice aspect of
> the messaging if I compose a new message to someone, however, if I already
> have an existing conversation going I have not found any way to bring up the
> voice messaging feature.  VO says to double tap and hold the attach media
> button for fast options, but when I do that nothing happens.
>
> Also, a bug report for anyone interested...I set up my medical ID in the
> health app, and ever since then anytime I do anything in the phone app VO
> says "medical ID" everytime I tap or move to anywhere in the app.
>
> Thanks,
> Randy
>
> On 7/24/15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Try wild montana skies instead *lol*.
>> /A
>>> 23 juli 2015 kl. 12:52 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>> :
>>>
>>> I do really like his stuff.  I've not done much though of his stuff
>>> aside Take me Home Country Roads.
>>>
>>> I should try doing Leaving on a Jetplane.  Now, you got me thinking.
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "'Gabriele Battaglia' via
>>> MacVisionaries" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: What about Logic Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Chris, you've been very detailed and helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I will consider buy it.
>>>> Thanks also for your singing example, you recalled me  a bit, John
>>>> Denver. :)
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IOS 8.4 messaging question

[Randy george]

Hi Everyone,

Sorry, this is probably a stupid question but I'm hoping someone can
help me out.  Just got an iPhone 6 and the user manual says that I can
send voice messages as well as text messages.  I am able to get to the
voice aspect of the messaging if I compose a new message to someone,
however, if I already have an existing conversation going I have not
found any way to bring up the voice messaging feature.  VO says to
double tap and hold the attach media button for fast options, but when
I do that nothing happens.

Also, a bug report for anyone interested...I set up my medical ID in
the health app, and ever since then anytime I do anything in the phone
app VO says "medical ID" everytime I tap or move to anywhere in the
app.

Thanks,
Randy

On 7/24/15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> Try wild montana skies instead *lol*.
> /A
>> 23 juli 2015 kl. 12:52 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland
>> :
>>
>> I do really like his stuff.  I've not done much though of his stuff aside
>> Take me Home Country Roads.
>>
>> I should try doing Leaving on a Jetplane.  Now, you got me thinking.
>> LOL!
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "'Gabriele Battaglia' via
>> MacVisionaries" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: What about Logic Pro?
>>
>>
>>> Thanks Chris, you've been very detailed and helpful.
>>>
>>> Ok, I will consider buy it.
>>> Thanks also for your singing example, you recalled me  a bit, John
>>> Denver. :)
>>>
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Re: How accessible is Google Hangouts on an iPhone?

[Randy George]

Very. I use it daily

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I just went to a Google page that discussed some of the accessibility 
> features of Hangouts and it would appear, though I haven’t tested this, that 
> Hangouts is reasonably accessible on a Mac.  Can anyone tell me how 
> accessible Hangouts is on the iPhone with the Hangouts app that is available 
> on the iOS platform?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Mike
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Re: [New post] Apple removing music downloading apps from App Store

[Randy george]

I usually don't chime in on these sorts of things but had a few
thoughts as I see both sides.

1. Sending multiple emails with short updates does tend to clutter up
an in-box and do take time to delete; especially for those of us who
travel for work and view/remove our email via our iPhone.
2. That being said, the information does tend to be interesting, so
perhaps a compromise can be reached?
3. Would it be possible to place all updates in a daily digest, as
opposed to sending them individually?  Or perhaps an apple OS/IOS
update list serve could be created just for this purpose?  I do tend
to view this list as a sort of tech-support list for blind users of
Mac products, not a list for every tidbit of "potential" information.
Remember, much of this information is rhumors, not verified
information.

Thanks,
Randy

On 6/11/14, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> Oh wow, I had no idea there were any such apps, but haven't ever looked for
> them either.
> On Jun 11, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>
>> nice little controversy we've got going here.
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 11:17 PM, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the post. Ignore what others say unless the moderator states
>>> otherwise. this is very informative.
>>>
>>> Sean
>>> On 11 Jun 2014, at 1:16 am, Christopher Hallsworth
>>>  wrote:
>>>



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Re: clickable items in safari

[Randy George]

that worked--thanks...may finish this on a windows machine, sadly this site is 
not at all friendly with voiceover.  

I appreciate all of the help.  

V/R, 
Randy 
On May 29, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> When you press vo-cmd-f5, does VO speak the clickable item again? If not, 
> your mouse may not be being moved; try vo-cmd-function-f5.
> On May 29, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex, 
>> 
>> Have tried your suggestions, and unless I'm doing something wrong, which is 
>> definitely possible--I'm still not getting anywhere.  I've tried every key 
>> combination possible, but I can't get the system to make the mouse click 
>> that I am used to hearing after the F5 trick...VO space isn't doing anything 
>> either.  
>> 
>> Thanks for any other suggestions. 
>> 
>> V/R, 
>> Randy 
>> On May 29, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Vo-space should work. If not, move to the item, press vo-cmd-f5 (you might 
>>> need to add the function key as well), and then click the mouse. If you 
>>> lack a mouse, use vo-shift-space to simulate a click.
>>> On May 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All, 
>>>> 
>>>> I am attempting to navigate a page that has what voiceover is calling 
>>>> clickable items--but when I try to click on them as I would a link nothing 
>>>> happens.  There are no links, just these frustrating clickable items.  
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone knows a way to access these I would sure appreciate the assist. 
>>>> 
>>>> V/R, 
>>>> Randy 
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Re: clickable items in safari

[Randy George]

Hi Alex, 

Have tried your suggestions, and unless I'm doing something wrong, which is 
definitely possible--I'm still not getting anywhere.  I've tried every key 
combination possible, but I can't get the system to make the mouse click that I 
am used to hearing after the F5 trick...VO space isn't doing anything either.  

Thanks for any other suggestions. 

V/R, 
Randy 
On May 29, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Vo-space should work. If not, move to the item, press vo-cmd-f5 (you might 
> need to add the function key as well), and then click the mouse. If you lack 
> a mouse, use vo-shift-space to simulate a click.
> On May 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All, 
>> 
>> I am attempting to navigate a page that has what voiceover is calling 
>> clickable items--but when I try to click on them as I would a link nothing 
>> happens.  There are no links, just these frustrating clickable items.  
>> 
>> If anyone knows a way to access these I would sure appreciate the assist. 
>> 
>> V/R, 
>> Randy 
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clickable items in safari

[Randy George]

Hi All, 

I am attempting to navigate a page that has what voiceover is calling clickable 
items--but when I try to click on them as I would a link nothing happens.  
There are no links, just these frustrating clickable items.  

If anyone knows a way to access these I would sure appreciate the assist. 

V/R, 
Randy 

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Re: My Number 1 IPhone App

[Randy George]

Too bad you only get a limited amount of uses before they charge you.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
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> It has to be TapTapSee. It just works and besides being useful, it is fun too.
> 
> KDM
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Re: Test

[Randy george]

Hi Faith,

Yep, looks like everything went through just fine. :)

Randy

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> I am just testing to see if this message goes through to the list.
> Thanks
> Faith.
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Re: Question about mail in IOS7

[Randy George]

Thank you so much to everyone, I really appreciate the feedback so much. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Ah, that would be why you didn't see the option. My apologies, I was going 
> off memory and I'd only ever set that option twice.
>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> This is completely optional.
>> 
>> If you rather not archive, and want to send messages to trash, go to 
>> settings/general/mail, contacts and calendars.  Double tap on your gmail 
>> then double tap on your account name.  Now, double tap advanced and select 
>> to move messages to the deleted mailbox.
>> 
>> Now archive will be replaced with trash in the Mail app.
>> 
>> hth,
>> 
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>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The archive option is the one you want. I'm not sure why you didn't see it 
>>> before as that is what I have always seen with my Gmail account. You will 
>>> also find that swiping up  takes you immediately to the archive option 
>>> rather than having to swipe down several times.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>> 
>>>> I just upgraded my 4s to IOS7 and now when i am in mail I am unable to 
>>>> delete an email by swiping down as I did before.  The three options I am 
>>>> given now are more, archive and activate item.  Delete is not one of my 
>>>> options, even if I am in edit mode.  
>>>> 
>>>> Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much. 
>>>> Randy 
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Re: Question about mail in IOS7

[Randy George]

I'm not sure I want archive though--i don't want to keep all of my messages, i 
want to move them to the deleted items folder.  

Not sure how I'm feeling about ios7 just yet. :) 

Thanks, 
Randy 
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> The archive option is the one you want. I'm not sure why you didn't see it 
> before as that is what I have always seen with my Gmail account. You will 
> also find that swiping up  takes you immediately to the archive option rather 
> than having to swipe down several times.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> 
>> I just upgraded my 4s to IOS7 and now when i am in mail I am unable to 
>> delete an email by swiping down as I did before.  The three options I am 
>> given now are more, archive and activate item.  Delete is not one of my 
>> options, even if I am in edit mode.  
>> 
>> Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? 
>> 
>> Thanks so much. 
>> Randy 
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Re: Question about mail in IOS7

[Randy George]

Hi Alex, 

Thanks so much--I am in the mail settings screen and do not see the disable 
archive option anywhere; not in the main screen and not in the gmail screen.  
there are a bunch of option buttons, but none of them say either archive or 
disable archive. 

Thanks again, 
Randy
On Sep 21, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I assume you are using Gmail. If so, try going into the Mail, Contacts, and 
> Calendars settings and disabling archive mail. That should change "archive" 
> to "trash".
> On Sep 21, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> 
>> I just upgraded my 4s to IOS7 and now when i am in mail I am unable to 
>> delete an email by swiping down as I did before.  The three options I am 
>> given now are more, archive and activate item.  Delete is not one of my 
>> options, even if I am in edit mode.  
>> 
>> Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? 
>> 
>> Thanks so much. 
>> Randy 
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Question about mail in IOS7

[Randy George]

Hi Everyone, 

I just upgraded my 4s to IOS7 and now when i am in mail I am unable to delete 
an email by swiping down as I did before.  The three options I am given now are 
more, archive and activate item.  Delete is not one of my options, even if I am 
in edit mode.  

Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? 

Thanks so much. 
Randy 

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Question: where does mail go if you press the archive button in mail on the iPhone?

[Randy George]

I accidentally did this while a message I was reading was open and now I'm not 
able to find it anywhere, both on my macbook as well as my iPhone.  To make 
matters worse I can't remember what the subject was so am not able to search 
for it that way.  

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Re: Seeing Eye GPS

[Randy George]

Hey Matt,
Thanks for the info, how much is the second app you use? I guess I am a bit 
confused as to what these apps do, I would think that a GPS app would be able 
to give turn by turn directions. 
Randy

Sent from my iPhone

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> Wait, I thought blind square was $15? not $24?
> 
> Also, Randy, yes you can if you use a second app for exactturn-by-turn.
> For example, I use blind square and MotionX GPS Drive.
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> 
> On 2013-08-04, at 4:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> True, but my understanding is that Blindsquare does this as well, plus it 
>> runs in the background. So, you open Blindsquare for intersection/POI 
>> announcements, find your destination, have it tell Apple Maps or Google maps 
>> where you want to go, then follow the mapping app's directions as 
>> Blindsquare continues to tell you what's around. Yes, you are now suing two 
>> apps, but you have a lot more features in Blindsquare and it is far less 
>> money (and not a yearly fee either). I'm not saying the Sendero app does not 
>> have its place, but for basic navigation I'm not convinced it is the best 
>> option. Unfortunately, you can't try out either app, you must buy up front 
>> and hope you didn't waste your money. Blindsquare is $24, and Sendero's app 
>> is $70 for one year or $129 for three years.
>> On Aug 4, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> I would like to give an example. Suppose you were going to do mostly 
>>> pedestrian work with a GPS. I think the Seeing Eye GPS has a definite 
>>> advantage in that mode. This is because it will tell you whether a street 
>>> crossing goes through or not by saying crossing right and left. That way 
>>> you know the street is not a dead-end street which comes in on the one side.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 It has its merits and its downsides. It really depends on what you want to 
 do with it - it might fit the bill, or a cheaper solution like Blindsquare 
 might work better. How do you plan to use a navigation app, in general? We 
 need more information before we can provide accurate and relevant 
 information.
 On Aug 4, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Krysti  wrote:
 
> Hey everyone 
> 
> What does everyone think about this app I want to get it is it worth the 
> money any info would be greatly appreciated 
> 
> Thank you
> 
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Re: Seeing Eye GPS

[Randy George]

Here is a very basic and probably stupid question, but with blind Square, am I 
able to enter a destination address and have it take me directly to that 
address as a pedestrian? Or is it limited to intersections? An app that has 
very precise pedestrian walking directions would be incredibly Useful for me 
personally, as anyone who has ever lived in Philadelphia can quickly tell you, 
the streets here are absolutely crazy. LOL
Thanks in advance,
Randy

Sent from my iPhone

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> True, but my understanding is that Blindsquare does this as well, plus it 
> runs in the background. So, you open Blindsquare for intersection/POI 
> announcements, find your destination, have it tell Apple Maps or Google maps 
> where you want to go, then follow the mapping app's directions as Blindsquare 
> continues to tell you what's around. Yes, you are now suing two apps, but you 
> have a lot more features in Blindsquare and it is far less money (and not a 
> yearly fee either). I'm not saying the Sendero app does not have its place, 
> but for basic navigation I'm not convinced it is the best option. 
> Unfortunately, you can't try out either app, you must buy up front and hope 
> you didn't waste your money. Blindsquare is $24, and Sendero's app is $70 for 
> one year or $129 for three years.
> On Aug 4, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> I would like to give an example. Suppose you were going to do mostly 
>> pedestrian work with a GPS. I think the Seeing Eye GPS has a definite 
>> advantage in that mode. This is because it will tell you whether a street 
>> crossing goes through or not by saying crossing right and left. That way you 
>> know the street is not a dead-end street which comes in on the one side.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 4, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> It has its merits and its downsides. It really depends on what you want to 
>>> do with it - it might fit the bill, or a cheaper solution like Blindsquare 
>>> might work better. How do you plan to use a navigation app, in general? We 
>>> need more information before we can provide accurate and relevant 
>>> information.
>>> On Aug 4, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Krysti  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey everyone 
 
 What does everyone think about this app I want to get it is it worth the 
 money any info would be greatly appreciated 
 
 Thank you
 
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Re: My comparison of the scene live GPS and BlindSquare

[Randy George]

Strange that good old Mikey May is still trying to squeeze every single penny 
possible out of the blindness community--well, not strange at all, but very 
sad.  Especially if the app is inferior to blind square.  I'll take $15 for 
life any day.  $70 a year is more than Garmin and all of the other major GPS 
providers charge--as a Seeing Eye graduate I am let down by their business 
decision. 
On Jul 7, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Hi,
> Blindsquare is $15 for life, seeing eye is $70 for a year or $130 for 3 hers. 
> I am so glad that I haven't purchased seeing eye. Blindsquare is truly amazing
> On 2013-07-07, at 3:32 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I would also like to thank everyone for their comparisons of the two 
>> products, as I have been considering purchasing a blind friendly pedestrian 
>> GPS system for sometime now. I have a random question, how much does each 
>> Cost?
>> Thanks so much,
>> Randy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I only acquired Blind Square recently, and haven't really given it a go 
>>> yet.  I can tell you that I am disappointed thus far with Seeing Eye GPS.
>>> 1. It tells me I am home when I am at my neighbor's house, and that my home 
>>> is "behind me" when I do arrive home.
>>> 2. It announces intersections far too early.
>>> 3.  It does not say "turn right" or "turn left" when one is actually at the 
>>> corner where one wishes to turn -- whereas Navigon is excellent at this.
>>> 4. It names POI's I am "near" but does not indicate "left" or "right" -- I 
>>> do not know if using the location wand will help with this.  I have not 
>>> tried that yet. 
>>> 5.  It has been wrong about what side of the street a destination is on 
>>> more than once. 
>>> 
>>> With respect to Seeing Eye GPS, it is interesting to hear what POI's are 
>>> around, and its directions are good and easy to understand if you already 
>>> have a grasp of the area you are in.  It has tremendous potential.  If I 
>>> had to do it all over again, however, I would save my money and wait for a 
>>> later version.  
>>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey Gigi, Just wanted to say thanks so much for the comparison. I have 
>>>> used Blind Square for awhile, and it is pretty good. It is not perfect, as 
>>>> I do notice the feet and time position of a location are off a bit, but I 
>>>> think this is due to GPS not being a perfect accuracy down to the smallest 
>>>> distance. Additionally, the developer of Blind Square is amazing, as he is 
>>>> constantly working on improving the app and tweaking it. He is very 
>>>> responsive, and I hope he continues with tweaking it even with the 
>>>> competition of Sendero's costly Seeing Eye. I know Sendero has a limited 
>>>> market for this app, and they are in business to make money, but if they 
>>>> want to be successful they are going to have to become more responsive 
>>>> about their product. Thanks again for your review of both apps, really 
>>>> insightful.
>>>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>> I realize IM you to both programs mentioned in the subject line. However, 
>>>>> I am not new to GPS applications. Here is what I have found so far as far 
>>>>> as I am concerned right now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hate to say this, but right now I like BlindSquare better than I like 
>>>>> the Seeing Eye GPS program, this graduate is sorry to say.
>>>>> 
>>>>> First of all, BlindSquare is more accurate insofar as my address is 
>>>>> concerned. The scene I GPS keeps insisting I am at 1061, where as 
>>>>> BlindSquare told me I had reached my house when I was right in front of 
>>>>> my door. Also, I tried using the scene I GPS this morning for a route 
>>>>> that I knew. I did it on purpose for one but I knew. I tried using the 
>>>>> multi thing for planning the route, and I got an error every time I tried 
>>>>> it. So, I had to use pedestrian mode. I got on the bus, and I was not 
>>>>> given enough cross streets. I have found BlindSquare works better on the 
>>>>> bus.
>>>>> 
>>>>>

Re: My comparison of the scene live GPS and BlindSquare

[Randy George]

Hi everyone,
I would also like to thank everyone for their comparisons of the two products, 
as I have been considering purchasing a blind friendly pedestrian GPS system 
for sometime now. I have a random question, how much does each Cost?
Thanks so much,
Randy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> I only acquired Blind Square recently, and haven't really given it a go yet.  
> I can tell you that I am disappointed thus far with Seeing Eye GPS.
> 1. It tells me I am home when I am at my neighbor's house, and that my home 
> is "behind me" when I do arrive home.
> 2. It announces intersections far too early.
> 3.  It does not say "turn right" or "turn left" when one is actually at the 
> corner where one wishes to turn -- whereas Navigon is excellent at this.
> 4. It names POI's I am "near" but does not indicate "left" or "right" -- I do 
> not know if using the location wand will help with this.  I have not tried 
> that yet. 
> 5.  It has been wrong about what side of the street a destination is on more 
> than once. 
> 
> With respect to Seeing Eye GPS, it is interesting to hear what POI's are 
> around, and its directions are good and easy to understand if you already 
> have a grasp of the area you are in.  It has tremendous potential.  If I had 
> to do it all over again, however, I would save my money and wait for a later 
> version.  
> 
> On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Gigi, Just wanted to say thanks so much for the comparison. I have used 
>> Blind Square for awhile, and it is pretty good. It is not perfect, as I do 
>> notice the feet and time position of a location are off a bit, but I think 
>> this is due to GPS not being a perfect accuracy down to the smallest 
>> distance. Additionally, the developer of Blind Square is amazing, as he is 
>> constantly working on improving the app and tweaking it. He is very 
>> responsive, and I hope he continues with tweaking it even with the 
>> competition of Sendero's costly Seeing Eye. I know Sendero has a limited 
>> market for this app, and they are in business to make money, but if they 
>> want to be successful they are going to have to become more responsive about 
>> their product. Thanks again for your review of both apps, really insightful.
>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys
>>> I realize IM you to both programs mentioned in the subject line. However, I 
>>> am not new to GPS applications. Here is what I have found so far as far as 
>>> I am concerned right now.
>>> 
>>> I hate to say this, but right now I like BlindSquare better than I like the 
>>> Seeing Eye GPS program, this graduate is sorry to say.
>>> 
>>> First of all, BlindSquare is more accurate insofar as my address is 
>>> concerned. The scene I GPS keeps insisting I am at 1061, where as 
>>> BlindSquare told me I had reached my house when I was right in front of my 
>>> door. Also, I tried using the scene I GPS this morning for a route that I 
>>> knew. I did it on purpose for one but I knew. I tried using the multi thing 
>>> for planning the route, and I got an error every time I tried it. So, I had 
>>> to use pedestrian mode. I got on the bus, and I was not given enough cross 
>>> streets. I have found BlindSquare works better on the bus.
>>> 
>>> However, I did discover one weird thing about replanning when using 
>>> BlindSquare and navigate. Several times I've used vehicle mode in Gavagan, 
>>> and it works fine. However, today when I chose public transportation mode 
>>> or pedestrian mode, Nevaden said not one solitary word until I got to my 
>>> destination, at which point it told me I got there. I kept BlindSquare 
>>> tracking, and I was able to find my bus stop.
>>> 
>>> Just a few of my observations. Oh another thing. As far as I can see right 
>>> now, BlindSquare seems to be better at points of interest location.
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Re: Has anyone ever used www.dau.mil?

[Randy George]

Thank you, no, I have not tried that. I did not even know that was an option. 
How would I go about doing that?
Thanks again.

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> You can try and emulate Internet Explorer from Safari to see if it might 
> display properly. Have you tried that yet?
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Has anyone ever used www.dau.mil?

[Randy George]

Hi Everyone, 

As part of my position with the government I m required to take certain online 
courses through www.dau.mil.  These courses have activities/assessments that 
must be completed prior to moving to the next step in the process.  Most of the 
information is completely accessible; however I have reached a point that I am 
not able to get past.  This is what happens.  
I can not interact with the flash content at all; and from what I am being 
told, it is just a multiple choice question with radial buttons.   
I have updated both my flash player as well as my java.  

I'm thinking this site may only be set up for internet explorer and netscape as 
for some reason the military still thinks netscape is a viable option.  

If this is the case, could anyone recommend a good tutorial on how to 
successfully instal and use windows on a macbook pro running os 10?  

Thanks so much. 
Randy The page has three frames; two with information and the third is a flash 
frame.  
Upt until now this flash frame has been working fine; however, this one fram is 
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

[Randy George]

Do you have any sighted  friends? Command  three I believe it is will take a 
screenshot. Paste that into an email and see what they have to say.  

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> Well, this is just weird. I went to the menu as you suggested, and "align 
> left" is checked! Voiceover insists that the text is aligned to the center 
> when I press vo-t, however, I'm not sure whom to believe here... Very odd.
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Instead of using the commands on the keyboard, maybe it would work if you 
>> tried using the menu instead. I know that sounds weird, but maybe that will 
>> work.
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried 
>>> highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. 
>>> This is very odd.
>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
 italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm 
 not sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into 
 plain mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this 
 trouble with MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have 
 not had trouble changing my text. 
 
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> Hi all,
> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text 
> Edit. I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The 
> problem is that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center 
> anything else. That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says 
> "align left checked", hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered 
> reports it as centered. It seems as though the whole file is stuck in 
> this "align center" mode and I can't work out how to un-center parts of 
> it. Any ideas? Thanks.
> 
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Re: Ideas for games?

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I would love to see some Sort of multiplayer NFL-based game. Go eagles! 

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> I am proud to announce that I have currently hired a team of application 
> developers to create the next accessible great game! Now is your opportunity 
> to have your own input, and help create one of the new, and exciting games 
> for the blind, visually impaired, and sided communities alike!
> I understand that there are presently audio games out there, and they work 
> fairly nicely! However, I am looking to create a application that as I stated 
> the blind, visually impaired, and siding can all participate in and enjoy at 
> the same time!
> Could you guys please throw around a few ideas for games that you one of mine 
> playing on your mobile device?
> I really think that this is a market that needs to be explored more!
> And, there is potential for the application to make it to the desktop 
> platform as well!
> Please, any ideas that are excepted, will be included with the individuals 
> name who originally brings it up as for crediting in the application.
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Re: Ideas for games?

[Randy George]

If we are venturing down the sports path, I think an accessible bowling or 
archery game would be also very neat. 



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> Hi Michael.
> 
> Sounds really great.
> If you are thinking about multiplayer games, a pack of sports games would be 
> really awesome. 
> If you are thinking about single player games, Angry birds would be amazing. 
> I'm not sure about what those games are about, but they must be very 
> addicting. :)
> If you haven't already done so, I'll highly recommend you to send the same 
> message on the audio games forum at:
> www.audiogames.net
> There are many people who are really great when it comes to giving great 
> feedback.
> I look very much forward to hear more about this project.
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
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> Den 20/05/2013 kl. 18.39 skrev Michael Babcock :
> 
>> Ladies and gentlemen,
>> I am proud to announce that I have currently hired a team of application 
>> developers to create the next accessible great game! Now is your opportunity 
>> to have your own input, and help create one of the new, and exciting games 
>> for the blind, visually impaired, and sided communities alike!
>> I understand that there are presently audio games out there, and they work 
>> fairly nicely! However, I am looking to create a application that as I 
>> stated the blind, visually impaired, and siding can all participate in and 
>> enjoy at the same time!
>> Could you guys please throw around a few ideas for games that you one of 
>> mine playing on your mobile device?
>> I really think that this is a market that needs to be explored more!
>> And, there is potential for the application to make it to the desktop 
>> platform as well!
>> Please, any ideas that are excepted, will be included with the individuals 
>> name who originally brings it up as for crediting in the application.
>> Michael, excited
>> 
>> Need a ripple code? Text me, 406-212-8503 visit startmyripple.com 
>> Http://empoweringtheblind.com
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Re: Ideas for games?

[Randy George]

I believe that used to be called allinplay poker. 

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On May 20, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Jamie Tachiyama  wrote:

> There used to be an online accessible poker game.  I can't remember
> the name off hand.  But it used flash and was designed accessibly.
> 
> On 5/20/13, Brandt  wrote:
>> hi there,
>> 
>> Something I have not found as of yet, is an accessible poker game.  .
>> 
>> I know this is not a big deal to most, but there are quite a few card
>> junkies out there. I have to admit that I am one of them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> 
>> Brandt Steenkamp
>> 
>> Sent from my macbook pro
>> 
>> Contact me:
>> 
>> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013
>> 
>> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>> 
>> My ring to Skype:
>> California, United States
>>  +(1)760-5140161
>> Extension 512
>> Cape Town, South Africa
>>   +(27)213-002317
>> Extension 161
>> Johannesburg, South Africa
>> +(27)105-002316
>> Extension 170
>> 
>> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007
>> 
>> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com
>> 
>> Twitter: brandtsteenkamp
>> 
>> On 20 May 2013, at 6:39 PM, Michael Babcock 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ladies and gentlemen,
>>> I am proud to announce that I have currently hired a team of application
>>> developers to create the next accessible great game! Now is your
>>> opportunity to have your own input, and help create one of the new, and
>>> exciting games for the blind, visually impaired, and sided communities
>>> alike!
>>> I understand that there are presently audio games out there, and they work
>>> fairly nicely! However, I am looking to create a application that as I
>>> stated the blind, visually impaired, and siding can all participate in and
>>> enjoy at the same time!
>>> Could you guys please throw around a few ideas for games that you one of
>>> mine playing on your mobile device?
>>> I really think that this is a market that needs to be explored more!
>>> And, there is potential for the application to make it to the desktop
>>> platform as well!
>>> Please, any ideas that are excepted, will be included with the individuals
>>> name who originally brings it up as for crediting in the application.
>>> Michael, excited
>>> 
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Re: Speech off on MacBook Pro

[Randy George]

Thank you so much! That did the trick! I'm so glad I have folks like you around 
when this sort of stuff happens. :-)
Thanks again.
Randy

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> do a 3 finger double tap on the trackpad! which should turn speech back on if 
> you have it on I can't think of anything else. 
> cheers gerry have a great day
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> On Mar 23, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Randy George  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> I have no idea how this happened, but when I turn voiceover on it now says 
>> "voice over on, speech off ". How do I go about turning the speech back on 
>> even when voiceover is on? Sure it's something to do with the VO utility, 
>> but I live Alone, so haven't had anybody here to look at it. Someone could 
>> tell me how to remedy this situation, I would be greatly appreciative.
>> Thanks so much,
>> Randy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>>> Jessica,
>>> 
>>> Are you certain you have the latest version of Firefox?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/22/13 20:24, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to customize my preference settings in firefox, and all the 
>>>> checkboxes I'm trying to check are determined they're going to immediately 
>>>> uncheck themselves the instantly I tab away from them.  Has anyone else 
>>>> had any trouble with this?
>>>>  This is really frustrating me, and I can't figure out for the life of me 
>>>> how to fix it, so any help someone could give me would really be 
>>>> appreciated.
>>> 
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Speech off on MacBook Pro

[Randy George]

Hi all,
I have no idea how this happened, but when I turn voiceover on it now says 
"voice over on, speech off ". How do I go about turning the speech back on even 
when voiceover is on? Sure it's something to do with the VO utility, but I live 
Alone, so haven't had anybody here to look at it. Someone could tell me how to 
remedy this situation, I would be greatly appreciative.
Thanks so much,
Randy

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> Jessica,
> 
> Are you certain you have the latest version of Firefox?
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/22/13 20:24, Jessica Moss wrote:
>> I'm trying to customize my preference settings in firefox, and all the 
>> checkboxes I'm trying to check are determined they're going to immediately 
>> uncheck themselves the instantly I tab away from them.  Has anyone else had 
>> any trouble with this?
>>   This is really frustrating me, and I can't figure out for the life of me 
>> how to fix it, so any help someone could give me would really be appreciated.
> 
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Re: Using facebook on a mac

[Randy George]

Hey Jessica, 

Have you tried updating your FB app on your IOS device?  I no longer have the 
issue with it that you were mentioning below and really only use my phone to 
access FB.  Granted, I'm not a huge user of FB, but I get on a few times a week 
and have no issues with the app at all other than it sometimes not telling me 
if there are comments to a news feed posting when there are actually comments.  
I'm able to find my friends, the suggested people section works just fine, and 
I even use FB messenger with my phone.  

Feel free to write me off-list if you would like, I'd be happy to help if I 
can. :) 

Randy 
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> Ok, well sense all of a sudden, you're suddenly wanting to start bashing us, 
> let's talk about the IOS app for a moment, sense you brought it up.  I enjoy 
> using it for the most part, but can't stand the fact that after I've 
> confermed a friend, when I find the "people you may know," option, unlike the 
> mobile site, with the IOS app, instead of it reading the names, all VO reads 
> is "Link," over and over, which becomes tiresome quickly.
>  On the plus side, I like that once you're finally able to find the message 
> you're wanting to respond to, which I unfortunately have too many of, and 
> they always seem to resurface even after I perform a delete function, it's 
> really easy to double-tap/respond to them.  So I really wish you wouldn't be 
> so quick to judge just because several of us are having issues with facebook, 
> and you may not be.
> On Feb 26, 2013, at 3:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> Frankly I don't know what you all's issues are with FB.  OK, I'll admit that 
>> the regular facebook.com web site is sheer shit, but even it! is somewhat! 
>> doable as long as you really! and I mean really! know what you're doing. The 
>> mobile site though in conjunction with the directions I just wrote up on how 
>> to make it work is excellent!  So much so, I almost prefer! using the mobile 
>> site with that trick on my mac as my way of doing FB even more so than the 
>> mobile site on Windows, and that should be saying something, seeing how well 
>> on Windows the mobile site works.  Another option you have is to use FaceTab 
>> Pro.  Although if you don't like the mobile version of the web site, then 
>> you're probably not gonna like FaceTab, as it's almost identical the last I 
>> looked.  I personally don't use it, as I dont' really see the need for it, 
>> seeing I find I can get by in Safari just fine with the mobile site.  The 
>> other thing is, if you have an I O S device, try the native FB app.  I 
>> swear, it does, admittedly, take some getting used to, in you all's defense, 
>> I will give yall that, but once you do! get the hang of it, it works 
>> actually extremely well.
>> 
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>> - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 16:57
>> Subject: Re: Using facebook on a mac
>> 
>> 
>>> I use it on my MacBook. It is reasonably usable, though not ideal. I use 
>>> "search" a lot to get to where I want to be. I have used Facebook 
>>> considerably less over the past year; it just isn't a friendly place for 
>>> screen readers.
>>> Christine
>>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:52 PM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey gang,
 Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on the PC
 side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on internet
 exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering if anyone ahs
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Re: best pandora client for macbook?

[Randy George]

Hi Brandon,
Thank you so much for all of your help with this. I really appreciate your 
patience and willingness to explain the functionalities. I absolutely love the 
application. Much better than trying to use the web.
Thanks again,
Randy

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 13, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> You have to interact with the table of stations, and then actually double 
> click on the station you want to switch to. But you can select a default 
> station in preferences.
> 
> I'm not sure if you know how to double click with VoiceOver, so here's how:
> 
> 1. On the station name, press VO-command-function-F5 to move the mouse curser 
> there.
> 2. Press VO-shift-space twice quickly.
> 
> Also, there are unlabeled buttons, so let me explain those:
> 
> The first checkbox is labeled stations. it shows or hides the stations list.
> 
> The next checkbox is to play or pause.
> 
> The button after that is to skip.
> 
> Then you'll usually see the song name and artist, though sometimes it is 
> hidden. After that is a button for thumbs up, and then another for thumbs 
> down.
> 
> Then you'll see the album name.
> 
> Everything is pretty intuitive from there.
> 
> God bless,
> Brandon Olivares
> Azavia Technologies
> ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
> 
> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
> 
> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to 
> give you the kingdom.”
> 
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> CLF on Facebook
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> 
> 
> On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brandon, 
>> 
>> Ok, one last question for you--how do I switch between my stations?  I can 
>> see the list of them, but I'm not sure how to activate the station I want.  
>> The rest of the app totally makes sense to me. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> Randy 
>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> No, you can get it here:
>>> 
>>> http://dev.kunugiken.com/Pianopub/
>>> 
>>> God bless,
>>> Brandon Olivares
>>> Azavia Technologies
>>> ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>>> 
>>> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
>>> 
>>> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure 
>>> to give you the kingdom.”
>>> 
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>>> CLF on Facebook
>>> Brandon on Twitter
>>> Azavia on Twitter
>>> CLF on Twitter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi There, 
>>>> 
>>>> When i go to the app store and type in pianopub it tells me that there are 
>>>> no search results.  is the app only found online?  
>>>> 
>>>> thanks, 
>>>> randy 
>>>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I use an app called Pianopub. It has worked pretty well for me. I wish 
>>>>> there were more keyboard shortcuts, but it is accessible. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> God bless,
>>>>> Brandon Olivares
>>>>> Azavia Technologies
>>>>> ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
>>>>> 
>>>>> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure 
>>>>> to give you the kingdom.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Group, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but can someone 
>>>>>> recommend a good (hopefully free) pandora app that I can use on my 
>>>>>> macbook?  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks so much, 
>>>>>> Randy 
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Re: best pandora client for macbook?

[Randy George]

Hi Brandon, 

Ok, one last question for you--how do I switch between my stations?  I can see 
the list of them, but I'm not sure how to activate the station I want.  The 
rest of the app totally makes sense to me. 

Thanks, 
Randy 
On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> No, you can get it here:
> 
> http://dev.kunugiken.com/Pianopub/
> 
> God bless,
> Brandon Olivares
> Azavia Technologies
> ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
> 
> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
> 
> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to 
> give you the kingdom.”
> 
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> Azavia on Facebook
> CLF on Facebook
> Brandon on Twitter
> Azavia on Twitter
> CLF on Twitter
> 
> 
> On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi There, 
>> 
>> When i go to the app store and type in pianopub it tells me that there are 
>> no search results.  is the app only found online?  
>> 
>> thanks, 
>> randy 
>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I use an app called Pianopub. It has worked pretty well for me. I wish 
>>> there were more keyboard shortcuts, but it is accessible. :)
>>> 
>>> God bless,
>>> Brandon Olivares
>>> Azavia Technologies
>>> ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>>> 
>>> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
>>> 
>>> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure 
>>> to give you the kingdom.”
>>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Group, 
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but can someone 
>>>> recommend a good (hopefully free) pandora app that I can use on my 
>>>> macbook?  
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much, 
>>>> Randy 
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Re: best pandora client for macbook?

[Randy George]

Hi There, 

When i go to the app store and type in pianopub it tells me that there are no 
search results.  is the app only found online?  

thanks, 
randy 
On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> I use an app called Pianopub. It has worked pretty well for me. I wish there 
> were more keyboard shortcuts, but it is accessible. :)
> 
> God bless,
> Brandon Olivares
> Azavia Technologies
> ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
> 
> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
> 
> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to 
> give you the kingdom.”
> 
> On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Group, 
>> 
>> Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but can someone recommend 
>> a good (hopefully free) pandora app that I can use on my macbook?  
>> 
>> Thanks so much, 
>> Randy 
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best pandora client for macbook?

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Hi Group, 

Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but can someone recommend a 
good (hopefully free) pandora app that I can use on my macbook?  

Thanks so much, 
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Randy George]

Or I guess our workaround would be to partition your drive, boot your system as 
windows, download jaws for Windows or window eyes, and fill out the forms that 
way. Just another thought.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi Pam
> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until it 
> is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on the Mac if 
> you're blind. 
> 
> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
> about this. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?
>> 
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Randy George]

What about a BBY fine reader? I have used in the past and it has worked really 
well for me.

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> Hi Pam
> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until it 
> is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on the Mac if 
> you're blind. 
> 
> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
> about this. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
> 
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> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?
>> 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

[Randy George]

correct, but you are only able to do that with a newly created file, not one 
that has been saved previously. 

Randy 
On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:

> this isn't true, you can save in a .doc format, in the save as dialog, the 
> third or so from the last option will state:
> "Rich Text Format (RTF) document File Format:"
> or something like this. you can save in .docx (word 2007), .doc (word 97), 
> etc.
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry for my mistake. I just went into TextEdit, and noticed this. It turns 
>> out that this is a little weird, and I had never noticed this in TextEdit. 
>> If you call up an existing rtf file, then you don't get an option to change 
>> it once you have saved it out as an rtf file. However, if you press command 
>> n to start a new file, and you have never saved it out before, then you get 
>> a chance to save in Word formats of different kinds. So, if you have already 
>> saved out your file,. then you can select all your text, make a new file, 
>> and then save it out in whatever Word format you want. I know this is a work 
>> around, but it should work. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, 
>>> because like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a 
>>> word document extension. 
>>> 
>>> I appreciate the tips though.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Randy
>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi there
>>>> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. 
>>>> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the 
>>>> end of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. 
>>>> After you change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really 
>>>> want to do that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you 
>>>> want.
>>>> 
>>>> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that 
>>>> word is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would 
>>>> need to have Pages to do that.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for 
>>>>> example) a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at 
>>>>> all, just resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the 
>>>>> file name, but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks so much, 
>>>>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

[Randy George]

Yes, that's what I've been doing thus far.  I guess as a new-to-mac user I kind 
of fished around a bit and saw the different extensions. 

Thanks so much again for your support. 

Randy
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> Sorry for my mistake. I just went into TextEdit, and noticed this. It turns 
> out that this is a little weird, and I had never noticed this in TextEdit. If 
> you call up an existing rtf file, then you don't get an option to change it 
> once you have saved it out as an rtf file. However, if you press command n to 
> start a new file, and you have never saved it out before, then you get a 
> chance to save in Word formats of different kinds. So, if you have already 
> saved out your file,. then you can select all your text, make a new file, and 
> then save it out in whatever Word format you want. I know this is a work 
> around, but it should work. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, because 
>> like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a word 
>> document extension. 
>> 
>> I appreciate the tips though.
>> Thanks,
>> Randy
>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. 
>>> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the 
>>> end of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. 
>>> After you change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really 
>>> want to do that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you want.
>>> 
>>> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that 
>>> word is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would 
>>> need to have Pages to do that.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for 
>>>> example) a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at 
>>>> all, just resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the 
>>>> file name, but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much, 
>>>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

[Randy George]

Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, because 
like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a word document 
extension. 

I appreciate the tips though.
Thanks,
Randy
On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi there
> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. 
> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the end 
> of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. After you 
> change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really want to do 
> that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you want.
> 
> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that word 
> is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would need to 
> have Pages to do that.
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) 
>> a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just 
>> resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, 
>> but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>> 
>> Thanks so much, 
>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

[Randy George]

that's strange, because when i open a new document and create it i definitely 
have the option of saving it as a .DOC file.  I've just taken to 
copying/pasting in to a new file and reserving it as a .DOC when i need to say 
upload to a website or something like that. 

Randy 
On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:

> With text edit, you can't change to a .doc format.
> You can only open ms word files.
> 
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) 
>> a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just 
>> resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, 
>> but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>> 
>> Thanks so much, 
>> Randy 
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changing document extensions in text edit

[Randy George]

Hi Everyone, 

Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) a 
RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just resave it 
as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, but I don't see 
any way to change the extension. 

Thanks so much, 
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Re: auto corrections in mail messages and while typing

[Randy George]

Yep, I sure am.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: auto corrections in mail messages and while typing

[Randy George]

I feel like an idiot because the down arrow trick just simply is not working 
for me.  VO shift m does work, but no matter what I do, the down arrow followed 
by left-right to get to the list of words does nothing for me.  
On Feb 2, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Getting the list is as easy as putting your cursor just past the last 
> character of the word and then down arrowing, or moving to anywhere in the 
> word and hitting vo-shift-m. On iOS, when you hear the auto-correct sound, 
> you can swipe down (the rotor should auto-select "corrections", but if not 
> you can rotor to it) and find the word you want in there, then double tap to 
> use it. Or, I believe you can press space to accept the first suggestion, 
> just like on the mac. I have less experience with auto-correct on the iOS 
> platform, though, so I could be wrong in the details there.
> On Feb 2, 2013, at 9:43 PM, Jessica Moss  
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> 
>> I was actually wondering that myself; I have that same trouble when it comes 
>> to my mac/IPhone, and have no idea how to go about correcting it.  I do fine 
>> when it comes to the current word, but if it comes to trying to find a list, 
>> that's a whole different story, so would love some advice as well.
>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Randy George wrote:
>> 
>>> hi gang, 
>>> 
>>> How do I access the suggestions that mac/voiceover gives me when i have 
>>> incorrectly spelled a word?  I hear the noise that indicates they are 
>>> available, and it says suggestions, but I have no idea how to get to them 
>>> and select the one I want. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks a bunch, 
>>> Randy 
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Re: auto corrections in mail messages and while typing

[Randy George]

Hi Jessica, 

If I can figure this out I'll definitely let you know, because like you I am 
able to fix a current word, but I'm still not able to, and have never been able 
to get to this list of corrections.  Same with my iPhone, I have no clue how to 
do it there either.  Alex and a few others have been really helpful, and for 
this I am really thankful. 

Talk soon, 
Randy
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> I was actually wondering that myself; I have that same trouble when it comes 
> to my mac/IPhone, and have no idea how to go about correcting it.  I do fine 
> when it comes to the current word, but if it comes to trying to find a list, 
> that's a whole different story, so would love some advice as well.
> On Feb 2, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Randy George wrote:
> 
>> hi gang, 
>> 
>> How do I access the suggestions that mac/voiceover gives me when i have 
>> incorrectly spelled a word?  I hear the noise that indicates they are 
>> available, and it says suggestions, but I have no idea how to get to them 
>> and select the one I want. 
>> 
>> Thanks a bunch, 
>> Randy 
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Re: auto corrections in mail messages and while typing

[Randy George]

it just goes to the next line/word/whatever is next. 
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> the last character? Have you turned quick nav off?
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Re: auto corrections in mail messages and while typing

[Randy George]

does the roter have to be set to a specific setting?  
On Feb 2, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Actually, I can do that. If I do as you said and place the cursor just after 
> the last letter in the word, I can arrow to the correction I want and just 
> press enter to have the word replaced with that correction. I am running the 
> very latest OS10 if that matters.
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>> Just to add a little to Alex's explanation. If you have already typed a word 
>> or hear VoiceOver announce a word as misspelled, you can
>>  •   navigate to the word;
>>  •   ensure the curser is at the end of the word, before the space 
>> or punctuation;
>>  •   ensure quick nav is turned off;
>>  •   down arrow once, and then use left and right arrow to hear the 
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> I don't know of any way of selecting any of these suggestions, however. You 
>> can only listen to the word being spelled. If you want to replace the 
>> misspelled with a suggestion, you're better off, as Alex said, navigating to 
>> the misspelled word and pressing VO-SHIFT-M to bring up the context menu, 
>> where you can select a suggestion or tell your Mac to learn or ignore the 
>> misspelled word.
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Re: auto corrections in mail messages and while typing

[Randy George]

Hi All, 

Still not having any luck arrowing down and then left/right to suggestions to 
press enter on, and I found a word that said it had like 10 suggestions.  
Running os10 with mountain lion, got it in november.  

Thank you all so much for the suggestions. 
Randy 
On Feb 2, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Actually, I can do that. If I do as you said and place the cursor just after 
> the last letter in the word, I can arrow to the correction I want and just 
> press enter to have the word replaced with that correction. I am running the 
> very latest OS10 if that matters.
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> 
>> Just to add a little to Alex's explanation. If you have already typed a word 
>> or hear VoiceOver announce a word as misspelled, you can
>>  •   navigate to the word;
>>  •   ensure the curser is at the end of the word, before the space 
>> or punctuation;
>>  •   ensure quick nav is turned off;
>>  •   down arrow once, and then use left and right arrow to hear the 
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> I don't know of any way of selecting any of these suggestions, however. You 
>> can only listen to the word being spelled. If you want to replace the 
>> misspelled with a suggestion, you're better off, as Alex said, navigating to 
>> the misspelled word and pressing VO-SHIFT-M to bring up the context menu, 
>> where you can select a suggestion or tell your Mac to learn or ignore the 
>> misspelled word.
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Re: auto corrections in mail messages and while typing

[Randy George]

thanks again, I see an audio menu but not a sounds menu.  Is that what you're 
referring to?  Yeah, even when turning VO on and off repeatedly over the past 
few months I've been with out these sounds.  Very strange.  

Thanks, 
Randy  
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> Both of your examples are exactly what should have happened. Vo read "real", 
> so you hit space and it inserted the word, same for the second example. As I 
> said, only when there are multiple choices will you see multiple options 
> through which you can arrow.
> 
> As to sounds, yes, you can mute these in vo preferences. I'm not sure why 
> they would disappear like that, but next time try restarting vo and see if 
> that helps. There is no command to mute them, but you can find the option in 
> the commands menu (vo-h, h, sounds menu). I set up a keyboard commander for 
> it, but that's just me.
> On Feb 2, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex, 
>> 
>> Thank you so much for the assist, I really appreciate it.  Your explanation 
>> has been really helpful.  
>> 
>> I was just testing it out, and let me give you an example of where I'm 
>> having trouble.  I was typing the word "really.  When I got to the second l 
>> in really, the sound for corrections came up so i decided to give it a go.  
>> VO gave me the option of "re all" and no other options.  Knowing full well 
>> that this was the wrong choice i wanted to test it anyway so pressed space 
>> but nothing happened other than vo changing the word from what i had 
>> originally typed to "real".  So i decided to try another word and chose to 
>> type the word option, only spelled with an s instead of a t.  as soon as I 
>> entered opts the noise came up and Vo said ops sion, so i pressed space 
>> again, but instead of correcting the word it just placed a space between  
>> the op and the sion (s i o n).  I've gotten it to work a few different 
>> times, but it still seems kinda sketchy to me.  
>> 
>> Also, here's something else interesting, for the longest time I did not have 
>> any (not sure if I'm calling these the right thing) system sounds other than 
>> my mail notification and incoming messages; no audible feedback when 
>> entering passwords, no sound when a webpage had fully loaded, no sound when 
>> the spelling corrections options would pop up; and now, all of a sudden, 
>> they have returned.  I did not change voices or any options, I didn't even 
>> restart my computer.  Any thoughts/suggestions on this?  Is there an option 
>> to turn these on and off?  
>> 
>> Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance again. 
>> Randy  an   
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> When you hear the sound, pause to let vo tell you the correction it thinks 
>>> you mean. If you like it, just hit space, else keep typing your word. If 
>>> there are multiple corrections, that's when you can press down arrow, then 
>>> left/right through them and enter to choose one. In addition, you can move 
>>> to a misspelled word (cmd-semicolon) and hit vo-shift-m to bring up a menu 
>>> of suggested corrections, or tell the mac to ignore or learn the word.
>>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> whether or not they do i have no idea, as I have no clue how to access 
>>>> them.  whenever i use the arrow keys it just takes me out of the word and 
>>>> I've tried a number of other tricks that I know of with no avail.  
>>>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:16 PM, "J.P."  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> They should just appear in a list right under the field you're typing in.
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Re: auto corrections in mail messages and while typing

[Randy George]

Hi Alex, 

Thank you so much for the assist, I really appreciate it.  Your explanation has 
been really helpful.  

I was just testing it out, and let me give you an example of where I'm having 
trouble.  I was typing the word "really.  When I got to the second l in really, 
the sound for corrections came up so i decided to give it a go.  VO gave me the 
option of "re all" and no other options.  Knowing full well that this was the 
wrong choice i wanted to test it anyway so pressed space but nothing happened 
other than vo changing the word from what i had originally typed to "real".  So 
i decided to try another word and chose to type the word option, only spelled 
with an s instead of a t.  as soon as I entered opts the noise came up and Vo 
said ops sion, so i pressed space again, but instead of correcting the word it 
just placed a space between  the op and the sion (s i o n).  I've gotten it to 
work a few different times, but it still seems kinda sketchy to me.  

Also, here's something else interesting, for the longest time I did not have 
any (not sure if I'm calling these the right thing) system sounds other than my 
mail notification and incoming messages; no audible feedback when entering 
passwords, no sound when a webpage had fully loaded, no sound when the spelling 
corrections options would pop up; and now, all of a sudden, they have returned. 
 I did not change voices or any options, I didn't even restart my computer.  
Any thoughts/suggestions on this?  Is there an option to turn these on and off? 
 

Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance again. 
Randy  an   
  
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> When you hear the sound, pause to let vo tell you the correction it thinks 
> you mean. If you like it, just hit space, else keep typing your word. If 
> there are multiple corrections, that's when you can press down arrow, then 
> left/right through them and enter to choose one. In addition, you can move to 
> a misspelled word (cmd-semicolon) and hit vo-shift-m to bring up a menu of 
> suggested corrections, or tell the mac to ignore or learn the word.
> On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> whether or not they do i have no idea, as I have no clue how to access them. 
>>  whenever i use the arrow keys it just takes me out of the word and I've 
>> tried a number of other tricks that I know of with no avail.  
>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:16 PM, "J.P."  wrote:
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>>> They should just appear in a list right under the field you're typing in.
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Re: auto corrections in mail messages and while typing

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whether or not they do i have no idea, as I have no clue how to access them.  
whenever i use the arrow keys it just takes me out of the word and I've tried a 
number of other tricks that I know of with no avail.  
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[Randy George]

hi gang, 

How do I access the suggestions that mac/voiceover gives me when i have 
incorrectly spelled a word?  I hear the noise that indicates they are 
available, and it says suggestions, but I have no idea how to get to them and 
select the one I want. 

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Re: New list member with a mac question

[Randy George]

Hi Wendy,
I hope you're doing well. I'm fairly new to the MacWorld as well, however, I 
have quite a bit of experience working on them. I recently bought a MacBook Pro 
for the 14 inch display (non-retina display) with a 1 TB hard drive and eight 
gigs of RAM and it is absolutely wonderful. I've had It for nearly 6 months 
already and haven't noticed one single slowdown. I personally prefer the old 
style of RAM and ROM versus flash memory, which you will get on a MacBook air. 
The MacBook Pro also has a CD-ROM drive, which the MacBook Air will not. While 
most programs are electronic these days, There are some that still come on 
CD-ROM. And if you have a collection of DVDs, and would like to watch them on 
your computer, you would have to purchase an extra DVD drive to watch them on a 
MacBook air.
I hope all this information helps, please feel free to write me off list if you 
have any other questions.
Randy

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> Hello all,
> 
> I'm new to this list and have a question.  Seriously thinking about purching
> a mac, but not sure what I should purchase.  I'm looking at either a mac
> book air or mac book pro.  What are the differences between the two?  Is one
> better than the other?  Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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attaching pictures to mail messages

[Randy George]

Hi Gang,  

I'm able to attach files such as documents to my mail messages, but am 
absolutely failing when trying to attach pictures--can anyone give me some 
pointers?  Whenever I try to access them I am only able to find dates and 
things like that, but only what I think are the dates in which I've synched my 
phone with my macbook.  

Any help would be really appreciated. 

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Re: safari and voiceover issue

[Randy George]

Thanks so much.  I click that link whenever I see it; I'm not seeing it now.  I 
will definitely keep that in mind though. 

Thanks again, 
Randy 
On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

> Hi, Randy:
> 
> 
> 
> I think what you were dealing with is something called Google instant. If I 
> understand correctly, this causes webpages to change dynamically. You should 
> find a link on the screen that says something like screen reader users click 
> here. That will turn off Google instant and you should be able to search with 
> no problem. I had this happen to me just the other evening. Hope this helps.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> 
>> With in the past day or so I've begun having issues with voiceover and 
>> safari.  I'll try to explain in as few words as possible.  
>> 
>> I will do a google search, which will work fine. 
>> When I press the link I want, seemingly nothing happens, even though I have 
>> a great wifi connection and other pages load just fine.  When I read the 
>> link I have just clicked on voiceover reads something like "url" 
>> If I turn voiceover off and then back on again, I discover that I have in 
>> fact been taken to the page I wanted to navigate to. 
>> If I want to use the "back" arrow to go back to google, this does not work 
>> at all and I am forced to use the address bar to go back to google where I 
>> have to redo the entire search.   
>> I have both rebooted as well as completely shut down my system and done a 
>> reboot.  Apple tells me that I have no available updates. 
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how did you overcome the issue? 
>>  Does anyone else have any suggestions? 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> Randy 
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Re: safari and voiceover issue

[Randy George]

thank you all for your suggestions, they have all been helpful.  I will 
definitely file a bug report, as like I've said, I feel that navigating between 
pages is a fairly basic function and one which VO should be able to handle with 
no issues.  

Thanks again, 
Randy 
On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have that happen all the time.  If it happens, I stop interacting with the 
> html area and interact with it again.  Also, I open a search results link in 
> a new tab with command-enter.  Then, when I'm done I just close the tab with 
> command-w and I'm back in the Google search page.  When I do this, the focus 
> is usually on the last link I followed.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
>   Barry Hadder
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> Available in the Mac app store.
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> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> With in the past day or so I've begun having issues with voiceover and 
> safari.  I'll try to explain in as few words as possible.  
> 
> I will do a google search, which will work fine. 
> When I press the link I want, seemingly nothing happens, even though I have a 
> great wifi connection and other pages load just fine.  When I read the link I 
> have just clicked on voiceover reads something like "url" 
> If I turn voiceover off and then back on again, I discover that I have in 
> fact been taken to the page I wanted to navigate to. 
> If I want to use the "back" arrow to go back to google, this does not work at 
> all and I am forced to use the address bar to go back to google where I have 
> to redo the entire search.   
> I have both rebooted as well as completely shut down my system and done a 
> reboot.  Apple tells me that I have no available updates. 
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how did you overcome the issue?  
> Does anyone else have any suggestions? 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> Randy 
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Re: safari and voiceover issue

[Randy George]

it is time consuming because I do literally hundreds to thousands of searches 
daily as part of my consulting business, and even adding 2 seconds to every 
search adds literally hours of time to what I am trying to accomplish.  It is 
frustrating because in my opinion, these sort of basic issues with voiceover 
should be well in the past.  I want to be able to depend on voiceover in a 
professional capacity, but if it can't even handle basic web searches my 
confidence falls through the floor. 
On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I have had that happen as well. I just toggle vo off and back on and it 
> works. I also use cmd-left bracket to go back a page, which always works for 
> me despite whatever oddities vo has decided to exhibit. Why would toggling vo 
> be time-consuming if your machine is brand new?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 14:13, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there, 
>> 
>> That's the thing, the page is seemingly not coming up at all.  if i wouldn't 
>> reload voiceover it continually tells me that I am still on the google 
>> search page when I'm in fact on the page that I meant to go to.  This is a 
>> brand new issue for me, as pages have always loaded fine from google and all 
>> other sites.  command + { is not working at all as a back function unless I 
>> again unload and reload voiceover, which is to me a time consuming and 
>> frustrating task as this is a brand-new macbook.  
>> 
>> thanks, 
>> randy 
>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
>> 
>>> to make the webpage read properly i usually stop interacting with the HTML 
>>> area.
>>> Then to go back a page, i usecommand+{.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Randy George  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>> 
>>>> With in the past day or so I've begun having issues with voiceover and 
>>>> safari.  I'll try to explain in as few words as possible.  
>>>> 
>>>> I will do a google search, which will work fine. 
>>>> When I press the link I want, seemingly nothing happens, even though I 
>>>> have a great wifi connection and other pages load just fine.  When I read 
>>>> the link I have just clicked on voiceover reads something like "url" 
>>>> If I turn voiceover off and then back on again, I discover that I have in 
>>>> fact been taken to the page I wanted to navigate to. 
>>>> If I want to use the "back" arrow to go back to google, this does not work 
>>>> at all and I am forced to use the address bar to go back to google where I 
>>>> have to redo the entire search.   
>>>> I have both rebooted as well as completely shut down my system and done a 
>>>> reboot.  Apple tells me that I have no available updates. 
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how did you overcome the 
>>>> issue?  Does anyone else have any suggestions? 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance, 
>>>> Randy 
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Re: safari and voiceover issue

[Randy George]

Hi there, 

That's the thing, the page is seemingly not coming up at all.  if i wouldn't 
reload voiceover it continually tells me that I am still on the google search 
page when I'm in fact on the page that I meant to go to.  This is a brand new 
issue for me, as pages have always loaded fine from google and all other sites. 
 command + { is not working at all as a back function unless I again unload and 
reload voiceover, which is to me a time consuming and frustrating task as this 
is a brand-new macbook.  

thanks, 
randy 
On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:

> to make the webpage read properly i usually stop interacting with the HTML 
> area.
> Then to go back a page, i usecommand+{.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> 
>> With in the past day or so I've begun having issues with voiceover and 
>> safari.  I'll try to explain in as few words as possible.  
>> 
>> I will do a google search, which will work fine. 
>> When I press the link I want, seemingly nothing happens, even though I have 
>> a great wifi connection and other pages load just fine.  When I read the 
>> link I have just clicked on voiceover reads something like "url" 
>> If I turn voiceover off and then back on again, I discover that I have in 
>> fact been taken to the page I wanted to navigate to. 
>> If I want to use the "back" arrow to go back to google, this does not work 
>> at all and I am forced to use the address bar to go back to google where I 
>> have to redo the entire search.   
>> I have both rebooted as well as completely shut down my system and done a 
>> reboot.  Apple tells me that I have no available updates. 
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how did you overcome the issue? 
>>  Does anyone else have any suggestions? 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> Randy 
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safari and voiceover issue

[Randy George]

Hi Everyone, 

With in the past day or so I've begun having issues with voiceover and safari.  
I'll try to explain in as few words as possible.  

I will do a google search, which will work fine. 
When I press the link I want, seemingly nothing happens, even though I have a 
great wifi connection and other pages load just fine.  When I read the link I 
have just clicked on voiceover reads something like "url" 
If I turn voiceover off and then back on again, I discover that I have in fact 
been taken to the page I wanted to navigate to. 
If I want to use the "back" arrow to go back to google, this does not work at 
all and I am forced to use the address bar to go back to google where I have to 
redo the entire search.   
I have both rebooted as well as completely shut down my system and done a 
reboot.  Apple tells me that I have no available updates. 

Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, how did you overcome the issue?  
Does anyone else have any suggestions? 

Thanks in advance, 
Randy 

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Re: Time Machine Backups Are a good Thing

[Randy George]

be slightly careful with dropbox, i've had files magically vanish in the past.  
I still feel that an external hard drive that's in no way networked as to avoid 
any possibility of a virus is the best way to go.  

just my opinion, 
randy 
On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> I've just got rid of my time machine and am now going to use Drop box for my 
> back ups.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 30 Jan 2013, at 14:40, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, folk,
>> 
>> Here's sort of a cautionary tale of mine that ended happily. A few days ago, 
>> my cats were particularly rambunctious and knocked the power cord away from 
>> my Mac Mini. This, as some may know, has a magnetic connection and is easily 
>> disconnected. Unbeknownst to me, I didn't connect the power cord securely 
>> enough, and had disconnected it twice more. A couple of nights later, my 
>> computer was saying "busy" in Mail, and it turned out that the index was 
>> corrupted. Then Finder wasn't responding.
>> 
>> Well, I put the Mac Mini in recovery mode and chose to restore from a Time 
>> Machine backup. It took some time, but once I chose the backup I wanted, 
>> everything is working great again.
>> 
>> I don't know if it's a better method than reinstalling, but if you know 
>> which backup will work best, I think Time Machine is a very good alternative.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> 
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Re: Accessibility of tax Filing process

[Randy George]

i have used www.freetaxusa.com in the past and it has worked fairly well for 
me.  free for federal filing and only like ten bucks for state. 

hth, 
randy 
On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Marc Sutton  wrote:

> Hi,
> I was wondering if anyone has found a more accessible tax filing solution 
> than the taxact site mentioned in the previous messages of this thread. 
> Marc
> 
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:19 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi again
>> I forgot to mention something. I found the process of dealing with TaxACT to 
>> be easier on my iPhone. I have no idea why. The input of the basic 
>> information on the Mac I found it easier easy, but when I got around to 
>> putting in the tax information, I found my iPhone worked a lot better. I 
>> know this sounds weird, but that's my experience with it.
>> Regards
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the information; I had been planning to use Taxact but saw the 
>>> state's free e-file and wanted to investigate it. I haven't done anything 
>>> yet except go through the forms manually and figure everything out as to 
>>> refund amounts so I will know what I'm doing when I actually file. So if 
>>> you input the information, which is certainly possible, does this eliminate 
>>> the need to send attachments after receiving the acknowledgment of the 
>>> receipt of your return or does Taxact do this for you? I definitely do 
>>> intend to complain about the inaccessibility of this system; there is 
>>> plenty of information on these documents that can be validated by directly 
>>> inputting instead of having to send the attachment with scanned files.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Cheryl.
 First, how far have you gone in this process? If you have not already 
 started sending through your state's web site, you may be able to send 
 both your federal and state at the same time. Although there are some 
 issues with accessibility which I can further explain if you need to know, 
 I have been using Tax Act at taxact.com for the first time this year. I 
 finally figured the best way do it to make the process work better. 
 
 If, however, you have gone far enough in the process where you're ready to 
 send in the papers, it sounds like you could scan them and send them. 
 However, I for one would be a little skeptical about doing that because it 
 would be difficult if not impossible for you to check the accuracy of what 
 you sent in. I guess our sighted friends get to look at the image before 
 they send it in. (The state should be yelled at for doing it this way 
 because it's not the best accessibility choice. It's been my experience, 
 as a former blind IRS employee, that the federal systems are usually more 
 accessible than the state's. At least that true for Texas.) 
 
 If you use a web site like taxact.com however, you can type in the W-2 
 information yourself so that, although it's a pain to edit, you can do it 
 if you make a mistake. If you get all the information together first so 
 that you can input it all at once, the process is easier. Presumably you 
 can do the same with the state information although I have not tried it 
 since Texas doesn't have a state income tax. But I notice there is a 
 choice for state questions and answers for putting in the information. 
 
 I hope all this makes sense. If I can help you further, please ask. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
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> Hi all.
> 
> I've been getting things to gether to do my taxes and was looking at the 
> process for my state. I see that after I get my acknowledgment back I 
> have to send them an attachment with files of my w2, rent certificate, 
> and other papers. I would imagine maybe the IRS requires this for the 
> federal return too. So I have two questions.
> 
> (1) Does anybody know whether the transfer mechanism for sending these 
> files is accessible on the Mac?
> 
> (2) Is this just a matter of scanning the files? My state says it accepts 
> tif, bmp, jpg and pdf files. But I'm wondering if just scanning them like 
> I do my mail and books is going to be okay or whether they could still 
> receive an attachment with unreadable files. I'd really like to be able 
> to do this but I sure don't want to make my tax experience a long, 
> drawn-out one or have to re-do everything and have to wait and wait for 
> my refund.
> 
> Any input would be appreciated.
> 
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> and the med

Re: This new ram is, in a word, amazing!

[Randy George]

I have eight on my MacBook Pro and love it. Combine that with a TB hard drive, 
and all runs smoothly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:30 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Since I got my Mac in August of 2011 it has had 2gb of ram, and I didn't use 
> it for a year because it was so slow. Finally, in May of 2012, I bit the 
> bullet and got an adapter so I could hook up a screen, and that helped. By 
> August I had switched to the mac as my primary machine, and I was feeling the 
> pinch; if I used three apps I was okay, but switch to a fourth and things 
> would slow down, or even switch to a new tab or window in an open app and I 
> would get busy messages with much grinding of my poor hard drive. I was 
> getting more and more frustrated, especially after I started playing with 
> resource hogs like Garageband and Xcode.
> 
> Last week I bit another bullet and got myself 8gb of ram from Newegg.com. It 
> arrived yesterday and I installed it in my mini; the only sighted help I 
> needed was getting the plastic cover back over the Mini's access port, but I 
> think I could have gotten it myself with more patience. To be fair, though, I 
> have experience swapping out ram modules, so if you've never done this please 
> find someone who has (and has done it successfully) to give you a hand. The 
> mini's ram slots offer themselves up at an angle, and it is weird to figure 
> out at first.
> 
> Anyway, I've now used this ram for a little while (I got home only an hour or 
> so ago) and all I can say is.. WOW! Everything is snappy, there's no lag in 
> switching Safari tabs or moving between open programs, and even my "say time" 
> command is now almost immediate instead of taking the five seconds it used 
> to. I have not yet run a full memory test on the new ram sticks, but only 
> because Apple Hardware Test failed to pick up my wifi network (apparently 
> some routers block access to computers running in diagnostic mode). So, I am 
> still nervous when using the mac, waiting for something to crash or explode, 
> but I'll test the ram as soon as I can so I can breathe easier. Bottom line 
> though: if you have 2gb of ram like I did and your machine is able to accept 
> user-replaced ram, treat yourself to 8gb (4gb was not much cheaper, and 8gb 
> was the better buy). You will not regret it. Now, if anyone can tell me how 
> to use my wifi with AHT, and/or boot into Single-user mode so I can run a 
> memory test, I'd be home free!
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
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attaching photos in mail

[Randy George]

hi everyone, 

i guess this is another silly question, but how do i go about attaching photos 
to mail messages?  i'm able to attach documents just fine, but when ever I try 
to access my photos folder, voiceover stops working in the same manner in which 
it does when i am accessing documents and videos and things like that.  even 
when i go to my home folder and go in to photos that way i'm not able to select 
a specific photo, all i'm able to find are dates--i'm assuming these are dates 
in which my photo library was updated?  

Any help would be really appreciated. 

Thanks, 
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Re: Jailbreak iPhone 4S

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I think so, but I am not 100% sure. I feel like they should be able to install 
whatever iOS version you are interested in as long as they have it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Krysti  wrote:

> Could I downgrade to ios 5.1
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hi Kristi,
>> I'm not sure if anybody recommended this or not, but this is what I did when 
>> I jailbroke my old iPhone. There are lots of stores around most cities that 
>> will be happy to jailbreak your phone for you. It cost me between 20 and 30 
>> bucks, and it was totally worth it because it only took them about 10 
>> minutes and every thing went extremely smoothly. If you just google 
>> jailbreak iPhone and your ZIP Code, and number of stores should come up. Of 
>> course you're able to do it yourself, but I would rather somebody do it who 
>> has done it hundreds or thousands of times.
>> I hope this helps,
>> Randy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:47 AM, "Krysti .Power"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I only have a limited worthy with apple and I don't plan on updating the 
>>> iOS as its currently up to date
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, January 27, 2013, Mauricio Almeida wrote:
>>>> well, there probably is. my question to you is though why youw ould do 
>>>> such a thing if it messes your ability of gaining support from apple in 
>>>> addition to making you lose all your jail break data every time you update 
>>>> your IOS?
>>>> 
>>>> mauricio
>>>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Krysti  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > Hey is there anyway I can jailbreak my iPhone 4S running ios 6
>>>> >
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Re: Jailbreak iPhone 4S

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Hi Kristi,
I'm not sure if anybody recommended this or not, but this is what I did when I 
jailbroke my old iPhone. There are lots of stores around most cities that will 
be happy to jailbreak your phone for you. It cost me between 20 and 30 bucks, 
and it was totally worth it because it only took them about 10 minutes and 
every thing went extremely smoothly. If you just google jailbreak iPhone and 
your ZIP Code, and number of stores should come up. Of course you're able to do 
it yourself, but I would rather somebody do it who has done it hundreds or 
thousands of times.
I hope this helps,
Randy

Sent from my iPhone

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> I only have a limited worthy with apple and I don't plan on updating the iOS 
> as its currently up to date
> 
> 
> On Sunday, January 27, 2013, Mauricio Almeida wrote:
>> well, there probably is. my question to you is though why youw ould do such 
>> a thing if it messes your ability of gaining support from apple in addition 
>> to making you lose all your jail break data every time you update your IOS?
>> 
>> mauricio
>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Krysti  wrote:
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>> > Hey is there anyway I can jailbreak my iPhone 4S running ios 6
>> >
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critical help--how do i get to a pop-up tab in safari?

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how do i get to a pop-up tab in safari? 

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Re: getting to deleted items folder

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Awesome, thanks Alex.  Just wanted to make sure I didn't accidentally delete an 
important email. 

Randy 
On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I would just go to the mailboxes table and find it that way. Sure, command 
> with numbers will access the mailboxes in your favorites group, but there are 
> usually more than just those favorites to be found. Vo-j should jump you from 
> the mailboxes table to the table of messages in that mailbox.
> On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Randy George  wrote:
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>> hi all, 
>> 
>> sorry for the silly question--but what is the command to get to my deleted 
>> items folder from my in-box?  i can get to sent, VIP, and others, but not 
>> able to get to deleted items for some reason. 
>> 
>> thanks in advance for the help, 
>> randy 
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getting to deleted items folder

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hi all, 

sorry for the silly question--but what is the command to get to my deleted 
items folder from my in-box?  i can get to sent, VIP, and others, but not able 
to get to deleted items for some reason. 

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Re: Stopping VO from saying, Return, new line.

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Interesting, mine doesn't say "return" it just says new line, which I like as I 
like knowing the formatting of the message or page or content I'm reviewing.  
Do you have it set to read lines?  

Randy 
On Jan 19, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Good morning all.
> I wisht there was a way to make voice over stop saying, return, new line, 
> when reading in say all mode in any text editing application.
> Heck, even preview will do it.
> Any suggestions? Or is there nothing I can do about it.
> .
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Re: Accessible word processor

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text edit seems to work fairly well for me for basic things such as that.  i've 
heard pages can be fairly accessible as well.  

hth 
randy
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> Hey all,
> 
> This is pretty simple. I just need a word processor to handle working
> with .rtf files. I guess the ability to open other formats would be
> good as well, but my main use will be editing .rtf files. The person
> who came to assess me for my computer mentioned that Pages was
> accessible but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions that
> might be better and available in the app store. If Pages is just fine
> too, I'd like to hear that as well.
> 
> Thanks again for all your help as I get adjusted to the wonderful
> world of Mac! :)
> 
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Re: deleting installer files from desktop

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Yes, how could I forget command EE? I'll try that in the morning. Thanks so 
much Chris.

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> Try command e for eject. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hi there,
>> I have tried both command delete and command shift delete and neither seems 
>> to work.
>> Thanks,
>> Randy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>> 
>>> Randy, try command-shift-Delete.  That should place the file into the trash 
>>> folder and you can then delete it from there.
>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Randy George  wrote:
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>>>> Hi Again, 
>>>> 
>>>> So sorry for all of my questions tonight.  I have a few installer programs 
>>>> on my desktop, VLC, Adobe, ETC, which I'm not able to remove with the 
>>>> standard command + delete keystroke…is there another method which I need 
>>>> to use to accomplish this task? 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Again, 
>>>> Randy
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Re: deleting installer files from desktop

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Hi there,
I have tried both command delete and command shift delete and neither seems to 
work.
Thanks,
Randy

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>> Hi Again, 
>> 
>> So sorry for all of my questions tonight.  I have a few installer programs 
>> on my desktop, VLC, Adobe, ETC, which I'm not able to remove with the 
>> standard command + delete keystroke…is there another method which I need to 
>> use to accomplish this task? 
>> 
>> Thanks Again, 
>> Randy
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deleting installer files from desktop

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Hi Again, 

So sorry for all of my questions tonight.  I have a few installer programs on 
my desktop, VLC, Adobe, ETC, which I'm not able to remove with the standard 
command + delete keystroke…is there another method which I need to use to 
accomplish this task? 

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Re: Question about Adobe Acrobat Reader

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Back when I was a PC user I had found an electronic document scanning program 
which was free and which did virtually the same tasks; I wish that I could 
remember it's name now. lol  It would take a scanned image and run an OCR on it 
and produce a document which was easily read with a screen reader.  

Thanks for the suggestion 
Randy
On Jan 15, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I know this may not be a popular suggestion as it would cost about 3
> or 4 hundred dollars but I use DocuscanPlus from Sarotech and the Mac
> App is a free front-end to access the main application.  It can of
> course, read stuff from a scanner and it can process PDF documents
> including those that were originally scanned.  It works pretty well.
> You can then take the saved output and save it to your computer as a
> rich text file in case you need to edit the contents like in a form.
> 
> Hope this helps some.
> 
> On 1/15/13, Randy George  wrote:
>> Thanks for the information; from the install it seemed to be fairly
>> accessible.  Are there any hints I should know of for Preview?  I'm running
>> up against the same result when opening the document in this application. :)
>> Me thinks it is a scanned image.
>> 
>> Randy
>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Teresa Cochran 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Preview isn't perfect at this point, but it will at least allow you to
>>> read text in the documents, whereas Adobe Reader is not accessible with
>>> Voiceover on the Mac.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Chris Bruinenberg 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> No adobe reader isn't accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Randy George 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Again,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just downloaded and installed Adobe Acrobat Reader for IOS 10 Mountain
>>>>> Lion so that I could read some docs emailed to me pertaining to a job I
>>>>> need to take care of.  When I open the file in Adobe (I've set it as my
>>>>> default PDF viewer), all I seem to be able to read when I interact with
>>>>> the viewer pain is the document name; does this mean that the document
>>>>> is simply a scanned image that was converted in to a PDF, or is there
>>>>> some magical command that I need to do yet?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks so much for any help, this group is proving to be most helpful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Randy
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Steve Holmes 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wouldn't want to turn off pitch changes because then you wouldn't be
>>>>>> able to identify capital letters.  No way in hell do I want to hear
>>>>>> "Capital" before every uppercase letter! I've run into that with some
>>>>>> other systems and I hate it! I'd much rather have a pitch change.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/15/13, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>> Is there a way to turn pitch change off? Its quite annoying.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>> Sent from my mac
>>>>>>> Twitter: matt692
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2013-01-14, at 6:24 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ah, that is the disgustingly pitchshifted Samantha. Just record her
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> change the pitch with whatever audio editor you use and you'll at
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> point come to the sound of that cool voice of yours, unless for're
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> some other voice for text fields, but I'm pretty sure its Samantha
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> pitched down badly. Se, with the compact voices, pitch change is
>>>>>>>> supported
>>>>>>>> by the synth, but with premium, they have todo  it with bad audio
>>>>>>>> pitch
>>>>>>>> shifting, not like the way they dowith  Aleit and stillusff.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod with iCloud
>>>>>

Re: Question about Adobe Acrobat Reader

[Randy George]

Thanks for the information; from the install it seemed to be fairly accessible. 
 Are there any hints I should know of for Preview?  I'm running up against the 
same result when opening the document in this application. :)  Me thinks it is 
a scanned image.  

Randy 
On Jan 15, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Preview isn't perfect at this point, but it will at least allow you to read 
> text in the documents, whereas Adobe Reader is not accessible with Voiceover 
> on the Mac.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
> 
> On Jan 15, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
> 
>> No adobe reader isn't accessible. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Again, 
>>> 
>>> I just downloaded and installed Adobe Acrobat Reader for IOS 10 Mountain 
>>> Lion so that I could read some docs emailed to me pertaining to a job I 
>>> need to take care of.  When I open the file in Adobe (I've set it as my 
>>> default PDF viewer), all I seem to be able to read when I interact with the 
>>> viewer pain is the document name; does this mean that the document is 
>>> simply a scanned image that was converted in to a PDF, or is there some 
>>> magical command that I need to do yet?  
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for any help, this group is proving to be most helpful. 
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I wouldn't want to turn off pitch changes because then you wouldn't be
>>>> able to identify capital letters.  No way in hell do I want to hear
>>>> "Capital" before every uppercase letter! I've run into that with some
>>>> other systems and I hate it! I'd much rather have a pitch change.
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/15/13, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> Is there a way to turn pitch change off? Its quite annoying.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> Sent from my mac
>>>>> Twitter: matt692
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-01-14, at 6:24 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, that is the disgustingly pitchshifted Samantha. Just record her and
>>>>>> change the pitch with whatever audio editor you use and you'll at some
>>>>>> point come to the sound of that cool voice of yours, unless for're using
>>>>>> some other voice for text fields, but I'm pretty sure its Samantha just
>>>>>> pitched down badly. Se, with the compact voices, pitch change is 
>>>>>> supported
>>>>>> by the synth, but with premium, they have todo  it with bad audio pitch
>>>>>> shifting, not like the way they dowith  Aleit and stillusff.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPod with iCloud
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 14 Jan 2013, at 5:51 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know 
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> voice it is that is doing this, as I love it!  I switched my voice in
>>>>>> mountain Lion over to Samantha.  I used to have it on Alex.  Now, I'm
>>>>>> finding something interesting.  If I go into contacts, then go to create
>>>>>> another contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail
>>>>>> fields, yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits
>>>>>> different fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice
>>>>>> which is speaking.  It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred
>>>>>> either. I'm wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible!  I don't
>>>>>> have any extra voices installed.  This is an o s x thing, so, it's
>>>>>> whatever that male voice is by default.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I really wanna know though as he is really! good.  I remember another
>>>>>> friend after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and
>>>>>> really really liking it.  He said he thought it was Samantha but at an
>>>>>> extremely! lower pitch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris Gilland.
>>>>>> Founder of CLG Productions
&g

Question about Adobe Acrobat Reader

[Randy George]

Hi Again, 

I just downloaded and installed Adobe Acrobat Reader for IOS 10 Mountain Lion 
so that I could read some docs emailed to me pertaining to a job I need to take 
care of.  When I open the file in Adobe (I've set it as my default PDF viewer), 
all I seem to be able to read when I interact with the viewer pain is the 
document name; does this mean that the document is simply a scanned image that 
was converted in to a PDF, or is there some magical command that I need to do 
yet?  

Thanks so much for any help, this group is proving to be most helpful. 

Randy
On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I wouldn't want to turn off pitch changes because then you wouldn't be
> able to identify capital letters.  No way in hell do I want to hear
> "Capital" before every uppercase letter! I've run into that with some
> other systems and I hate it! I'd much rather have a pitch change.
> 
> On 1/15/13, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>> Hi.
>> Is there a way to turn pitch change off? Its quite annoying.
>> Thanks.
>> Matt
>> Sent from my mac
>> Twitter: matt692
>> 
>> On 2013-01-14, at 6:24 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ah, that is the disgustingly pitchshifted Samantha. Just record her and
>>> change the pitch with whatever audio editor you use and you'll at some
>>> point come to the sound of that cool voice of yours, unless for're using
>>> some other voice for text fields, but I'm pretty sure its Samantha just
>>> pitched down badly. Se, with the compact voices, pitch change is supported
>>> by the synth, but with premium, they have todo  it with bad audio pitch
>>> shifting, not like the way they dowith  Aleit and stillusff.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod with iCloud
>>> 
>>> On 14 Jan 2013, at 5:51 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, I just had something kind of weird happen, but I'd love! to know which
>>> voice it is that is doing this, as I love it!  I switched my voice in
>>> mountain Lion over to Samantha.  I used to have it on Alex.  Now, I'm
>>> finding something interesting.  If I go into contacts, then go to create
>>> another contact card, as I'm vo+right arrowing through the contact detail
>>> fields, yes, Samantha is reading things, but I'm finding that as it hits
>>> different fields like first name last name, etc. there is a male voice
>>> which is speaking.  It's not Alex, and it doesn't really sound like Fred
>>> either. I'm wonderring who it is, as that voice is incredible!  I don't
>>> have any extra voices installed.  This is an o s x thing, so, it's
>>> whatever that male voice is by default.
>>> 
>>> I really wanna know though as he is really! good.  I remember another
>>> friend after switching to Samantha having this same thing happen, and
>>> really really liking it.  He said he thought it was Samantha but at an
>>> extremely! lower pitch.
>>> 
>>> Chris Gilland.
>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
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Re: links with in headers

[Randy George]

Thanks so much, that did the trick. :)  
On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:

> Hi Randy.
> Could you possibly interact with the header.
> Then vo to the link and press vo+space?
> 
> On Jan 15, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All, 
>> 
>> Quick question:  How do I click a link that is found with in a header?  I 
>> can get to the link, but do not seem to be able to click on the link.  Do I 
>> need to just copy and paste the link in to the address bar?  I just figured 
>> there would be an easier solution to this delema.  
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> Randy 
>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
>> 
>>> Another way you could possibly do it is to press VO-shift-U to hear the 
>>> address of the current link, then press VO-shift-C to copy the last spoken 
>>> phrase to the clipboard.  This might be slightly quicker than going to 
>>> "copy link."
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Once you have focus on a link you can pull up the contextual menu 
>>>> (VO-shift-M) and then arrow down to "Copy Link". Of course if the link is 
>>>> 'fake' where it really just fires off a bunch of script which loads a 
>>>> bunch of stuff then there might not be a link to copy.
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/15/13 5:05 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>> What I would like to know is how one can get the full URL of the
>>>>> currently selected link without actually opening it.  An example of
>>>>> this might be a download link to a file; I would be interested in
>>>>> copying this direct link in case to pass along in a tweet or email or
>>>>> something.  So I don't want to open the link first.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Make sense?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/14/13, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
>>>>>> Your welcome.
>>>>>> I'm glad to help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. You are right. I thought it gave a blank field but the
>>>>>>> current one is in there. Thanks. Very easy really isn't it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lisette
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 15/01/2013, at 10:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>> When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current
>>>>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>> Then press command c to copy.
>>>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can 
>>>>>>>>> copy
>>>>>>>>> the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can
>>>>>>>>> navigate to it via the toolbar.
>>>>>>>>> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't 
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> the old one.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lisette
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links with in headers

[Randy George]

Hi All, 

Quick question:  How do I click a link that is found with in a header?  I can 
get to the link, but do not seem to be able to click on the link.  Do I need to 
just copy and paste the link in to the address bar?  I just figured there would 
be an easier solution to this delema.  

Thanks in advance, 
Randy 
On Jan 15, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Another way you could possibly do it is to press VO-shift-U to hear the 
> address of the current link, then press VO-shift-C to copy the last spoken 
> phrase to the clipboard.  This might be slightly quicker than going to "copy 
> link."
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Jan 15, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Once you have focus on a link you can pull up the contextual menu 
>> (VO-shift-M) and then arrow down to "Copy Link". Of course if the link is 
>> 'fake' where it really just fires off a bunch of script which loads a bunch 
>> of stuff then there might not be a link to copy.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/15/13 5:05 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>> What I would like to know is how one can get the full URL of the
>>> currently selected link without actually opening it.  An example of
>>> this might be a download link to a file; I would be interested in
>>> copying this direct link in case to pass along in a tweet or email or
>>> something.  So I don't want to open the link first.
>>> 
>>> Make sense?
>>> 
>>> On 1/14/13, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
 Your welcome.
 I'm glad to help.
 
 On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 wrote:
 
> Thanks Chris. You are right. I thought it gave a blank field but the
> current one is in there. Thanks. Very easy really isn't it?
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 15/01/2013, at 10:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current
>> address.
>> Then press command c to copy.
>> Hope that helps.
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can copy
>>> the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I can
>>> navigate to it via the toolbar.
>>> If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't see
>>> the old one.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
>>> 
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Re: Accessibility of protools

[Randy George]

Hi There, 

I've done multi-track editing with PT and have found it to be very accessible 
with the exception of a few mixing plugins.  This was primarily PT 10, PT 7-9 
seemed to work very well with voiceover.  

HTH, 
Randy 
On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:25 PM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:

> Wow, you just made me smile, nice!
> What time works for you tomorrow, absolutely would love to talk.
> Let's chat.  This is huge news.  Glad someone understand what I mean by a
> full multi track editer.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jed 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:24 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of protools
> 
> I use ProTools on the mac all the time professionally for a living!
> 
> We're closed today due to situations beyond our control, but I'd be happy to
> discuss its accessibility with you further come tomorrow if you'd like
> during business hours.  Choose option 1 from our phone's main menu when you
> call.  Our number is listed below.
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Jed Barton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:11 PM
> Subject: Accessibility of protools
> 
> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> I just got back on the list as I am getting a mac.
>> One of the big things I want to do and I've ehard mixed roomers about it 
>> is
>> do some audio editing, hopefully multi track editing if possible.  What's
>> the latest accessible program?
>> I know in the PC world, sound forge was the big thing, but that was only 2
>> track.  I'm looking for something that does true multi-track.  Any 
>> thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jed
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