Zendesk accessibility with Voiceover

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello everyone,

I’ve started a new job, and my employer uses Zendesk. I was just wondering if 
anyone on list has used it recently, say within the last 6 months? I understand 
accessibility left much to be desire from what I’ve red online. I was just 
hoping to get input from anyone who has used it recently.

Thanks.

Ricardo.

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Re: Moving notes from one folder to another

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Have you tried drag and drop with VO comma and VO period?

> On Jun 9, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I am working with a student who wants to move notes on the mac from the "All 
> iCloud" folder to a "Bible Verses" folder. I cannot, for the life of me 
> figure out how to successfully do this with VO.
> I am unable to copy or paste into folders, I can do a select all but then my 
> only choices are lock note, delete, and new note.
> Does anyone know how we can fix this?
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh, IOS  and Windows Trainer
> JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
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Re: getting AirPods to switch to different devices?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Alex,

You are correct. That’s how switching devices with your AirPods work.

Thanks.

> On Jun 8, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I don't own AirPods yet, of course. That said, from what I've read, you 
> switch to them like other headphones. The difference is you don't need to 
> pair them. On the Watch, bring up Control Center, hit Airplay, and select 
> them. On the Mac, they should live in your bluetooth menu and activate if you 
> choose them from there. On iPhone, go into Airplay from Control Center and 
> they should be there. Again, this is just what I've picked up while reading, 
> not experience.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 8, 2017, at 17:36, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> What I've read online suggests that they automatically figure out which 
>> device you are using, and pair with that device.  Sounds like I may need to 
>> give a call to Apple support.  I'll keep you posted.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Paul Mimms  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can believe that this is how they work. Otherwise, I can see walking 
>>> around the house with an iPhone, and Apple Watch, going to my iPad, and 
>>> have them switch to my Mac.! :-) Let's keep in touch as we work this out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Life is 10% what happens, and how you take it, and 90% what you do about 
>>> it, and what you make of it.
>>> Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus
>>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey Paul,
 
 Pressing Connect in the bluetooth menu did get them to switch from my 
 phone to my Mac, but now they won't switch back to my phone unless I 
 manually go in and switch them.. If that's the way they're supposed to 
 work, that's fine, but I thought they could switch without the user having 
 to manually go in and tell them to.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jun 8, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Paul Mimms  wrote:
> 
> Try going into Bluetooth on the particular device, and you should see the 
> AirPods there and tap on it to pair.
> 
> 
> 
> Life is 10% what happens, and how you take it, and 90% what you do about 
> it, and what you make of it.
> Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus
> 
> On Jun 8, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My understanding was that the AirPods are supposed to automatically pair 
>> with any device that is connected to iCloud, and automatically switch to 
>> the device that you are using.  I have not been able to get them to play 
>> with either my watch or my Mac.  How do I do this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Could AirPods be the new iPhone?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi everyone,

I’ve been reading a lot of articles the last few days on the 10th anniversary 
of iPhone, what a success its been, and how its future is doomed. lol. Everyone 
seams to be looking for the new killer feature, be it hardware or software that 
will  trumpet in the savior of the iPhone.

So, I was one of the lucky ones who preordered the AirPods early, and got them 
the day of release, December 19th. And using them the last 2 plus weeks got me 
thinking. Imagine if Siri got better. I mean, Alexa amazon echo better. Google 
home better. Is that out of the realm of possibility? I don’t think so. It will 
be difficult because of Apples stance on privacy, and refusing to collect and 
harvest our data to the extent of Google and Amazon, but not impossible. I have 
to Echo. The Amazon Echo, and the amazon tap. I love them both. I think this is 
the future of computer interaction. Its the next thing that will take us away 
from multi touch displays. Technology is almost to the point where we can have 
basic conversation with our tech. Let me give an example of what I’m getting 
at. You have in your airPods, and you would like to check twitter. You double 
tap an AirPod or say, “Siri” read my home timeline. It proceeds to do just 
that. You get to a tweet you like. You say Stop. Then Like this tweet. Siri 
then does so. Then, continue reading. Get to a tweet you want to reply to. You 
say stop, reply to tweet. It says ready for your reply. You dictate, it reads 
back your text and asks if you want to send edit or cancel. All this happening 
while your on your elliptical, or treadmill. All this without being distracted 
by your phone. Let me give a bit of background to those who will say, sighted 
people don’t want this though. They are all about 8K displays, and graphics. 
Well, yes and no. I’m a big car guy. 10 years ago, you bought a brand new car, 
luxury or top trim regular automobile. for example, a 3 series BMW, or a top 
trim Honda Accord. You get a nav unit. You know what you had? Buttons and a 
generic display. Voice command? not a chance. You were hunting and pecking, 
typing in your destination address, and hoping you didn’t make any mistakes. 
fast forward 5 years, and those are replaced by touch screen nav units, or much 
more forgivable UI’s. In the case of BMW, you can write in the air with their 
new gesture based systems. But what do they all have? Voice input. Press a 
button and say, take me to 123 5th avenue, and you are on your way. Voice will 
be king in the car. This will translate to out of the car too I think.

I know, I know. What if you want to view movies, pictures, IG, FB, Snapchat? 
What if iPhones ended up being glorified iPod touches or iPads? Just extremely 
hi res displays. Flexible, folding displays like what Samsung and LG has 
already developed. So for example. your at lunch with friends, and you want to 
show them video of your new born. you reach into your shirt pocket, this 3inch 
square unfolds into a 9 inch display. You have in your AirPods and just say, 
show recent baby vids. It starts to play. You just say, next video, or, zoom 
in. or, freeze, Isolate center image. Darkening and blurring the background, so 
only your baby is in focus. *Shrug*. I think This is where tech will be heading 
in the next 10 years. I know most have not been labeling as such but, AirPods 
are wearables. Just like the Apple watch. Only think thats really missing from 
either is a powerful enough virtual assistant.

I was wondering what you guys thought?

Thanks.

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Re: Is development for OS Over?

[Ricardo Walker]

Wow! I really think iPhones have changed a lot. I just think its hard to notice 
because most of us on here get a new iPhone every year or 2. It’s kinda like a 
child growing up. You know they’re growing, but since you see them everyday you 
wouldn’t really notice. But, leave for 6 months, come back and you see the 
changes. Lets compare the 207 iPhone to the iPhone 7. Thinner, lighter, larger 
screen, no  mechanical home button, retina display, LTE, better wifi, better 
bluetooth, better camera, different placement of the power button, different 
shape volume buttons, etc.

Like has been said, wireless charging would be nice. I’d also like to see it 
using the new Bluetooth 5.0 radio. I think that would really open a lot of 
things up in the not too distant future. An embedded touch ID would also be 
cool. They could then enlarge the display by getting rid of the lower bezel, 
and not have to increase the overall size of the device.
> On Dec 18, 2016, at 2:27 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I am now waiting for the wireless charging and I won't get another phone 
> until the 8 comes out so that hopefully the charging is rock solid.
> 
> Anyway, looking at this question another way as I posed the question, what 
> can Apple do to make people buy the phone once the wireless charge has been 
> added.  The phones have not changed much even though the hardware inside have 
> been improved.  If once the charge has been added, I wonder what will happen 
> next.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 17 Dec 2016, at 00:41, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So there’s all this talk about lack of innovation and looking backwards?  
>> What would you want that’s not in place?  You’ve got a computer that fits in 
>> the palm of your hand, gets 450 megabits down and 100 up all over the planet 
>> with no wires, and is powerful as a MacBook Pro 13 inch in terms of 
>> processing power.  That ain’t a bad start.
>> 
>> I would like to see very good wireless charging.  That’s one thing I can 
>> think of that I’d like to see.  
>> 
>> On the Mac side I’m not sure I’m pretty happy there.  Oh I know, I’d like a 
>> built in LTE modem so it can be connected anywhere with out a third party 
>> hotspot or USB stick.
>> 
>> What do you think, what is Apple missing since people think they are 
>> stagnating.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> Yes I have to agree,
>>> 
>>> Apple do have far superior accessibility features in their devices and 
>>> across their different platforms.
>>> 
>>> As well as keeping the accessibility features / gestures the same on the 
>>> different devices and os's 
>>> 
>>> Android are doing well but there are so many different versions of the 
>>> android OS that each one has changes to the last 
>>> 
>>> Apple have in my opinion lacked the out of the box innovation  that Steve 
>>> Jobbs had for the company.
>>> 
>>> The iPhone hasn't really changed since it's release,
>>> There have been changes but really it's the same device,
>>> 
>>> Same with the mac book lines, apart from slight changes in hardware things 
>>> haven't really changed a lot 
>>> And the mac OS x changes to me have been more backward than forward looking 
>>> in the passed couple of versions.
>>> 
>>> But hey I'm only a single user 
>>> 
>>> We will have to wait and see what happens.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2016 1:59 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Is development for OS Over?
>>> 
>>> Yes, Android development is interesting.
>>> 
>>> Someone in the US NFB posted a blog post comparing TalkBack and VoiceOver. 
>>> The author loves the fact that Android is very configurable. The author 
>>> also comments a fair amount about many more unlabeled buttons.
>>> 
>>> The author admits that it takes a few attempts each time to activate the 
>>> angle gestures, which call up the global and local menus. So, the author 
>>> usually does not use the global and local menus. Well, not using these 
>>> menus is similar to not using the rotor in VoiceOver. It would make things 
>>> more difficult, unless one merely uses basic iOS functionality.
>>> 
>>> Given that I use my iPhone to run my business, I would not be able to do so 
>>> with an Android device (I have two of them). I need the advanced 
>>> functionality.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 17/12/2016, at 00:48, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 I think we should with hold that opinion until the next round of phones, 
 the 10th anniversary version is supposed to be a radical change.
 
 Then again though, why change something that works?  Performance 
 improvements 

Re: Get out there and vote everyone!

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Scott,

I must respectfully disagree with the minorities not quaking in fear. And I 
preface my point with this. Earlier in the thread, you mentioned putting your 
ear to the street/, if you listened to the actual people you knew it was going 
to happen. In short, your saying media and polls got it wrong but, if you 
looked around you, the writing was on the wall for a Trump win. Then you 
followed that up by using the same pulling stats you said weren’t a good 
predictor of actual attitudes. So I’m just curious, how many minorities 
especially those who have immigrated to the U.S. do you live among, and listen 
to? I ask because, the U.S. is extremely segregated in regards to where we 
live. If your on this list and your Black, chances are most of your neighbors 
are the same. If your White, same applies. I happen to be Black, and a person 
who came to the U.S. from another country at a young age. But in saying that, I 
have lived, and live around many who fit that same description and their 
families. And at least looking around me, the demographic your mentioning, they 
are definitely quaking in fear. From naturalized citizens and legal residence  
wondering if they can somehow have the carpet pulled from under them and get 
deported to, some wondering if they will be thrown in jail because they were at 
a BLM protest, and they might be labeled as terrorists.
I won’t comment if I think their anxiety is just. I will just say its real 
among many ..

As far as the racial component, I think it played a factor for sure. Most 
things in the U.S. does. I think its just that for many Whites, its a non 
factor in their daily lives so, their is no skin in the game when it comes to 
racism. Its purely academic for most. Its like blind people trying to explain 
to sighted people how hard it is for a person who’s blind to find work fitting 
their skill set an education. They might agree with you, recognize the problem, 
make all the right noises but, since it doesn’t directly affect them, they are 
more likely to undervalue the impact it has on a blind person’s life, and 
outlook on life for that matter. Further more, since that person isn’t directly 
responsible for that discrimination, they take solace in that, and sorta look 
away from the issue. But in reality, they are the only people who can truly fix 
the issue. So to complete the comparison, Unless enough sighted people decided 
that fair and equal treatment in the work place is a high priority, there is 
little a blind person can do to change their lot collectively. Same with 
racism. So for example, if you are white, acknowledge racism, find it to be 
terrible, but downplay the affect that has on the every day life of a person of 
color, racism will persist. And there is little a person of color can do. Its 
up the the majority, either sighted/able bodied, or white to treat the issue as 
if it affected them personally because, it takes a change in attitude more than 
laws. Like your Uncle marching with Dr. King. Think about that for a second.  
civil rights movement, it could have never happened without White people with 
the courage and conviction to physically participate in the righting of a 
wrong. And hence more validating to other White people that the problem was 
real.

I’ll tell you what Scott, I was in Manhattan a while back, hanging out with 
some friends. Heading home, I asked one of my white friends to hail a cab for 
me. He thought I was nuts. So we did an experiment. I had a Black friend of 
mine try. No cabs stopped. he was at it for 15 minutes. White friend tried? Cab 
in 30 seconds. And for my White friend, that was the first up close and 
personal view of how race is a factor for people of color every single day of 
our lives if we know it or not. 

Just my 2 cents. :)


> On Nov 10, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I don’t buy the minorities quaking in fear.  Trump received 29% of the latino 
> vote, that’s more than 1 in 4 although if you view the media you’d think it 
> was sub 1%.  Trump also increased the votes received by the African American 
> community.  It was still small but it was a larger percentage than any 
> republican previously.
> 
> I also don’t agree with your whites not voting for democrats.  Whites in 
> majority voted for president Obama after all and that’s just recent history.  
> You’ve had whites involved in the civil rights effort in large numbers for 
> years although that’s not discussed as much.  Hell my own Uncle marched on 
> Washington with Dr. King. I don’t buy the racial argument.  Are there racists 
> sure are the majority, no I don’t by that.  Maybe as you said though, my 
> world view is overly shaped by the people closest to me which do not buy in 
> to the racial argument.
> 
> I would highly encourage us to move this over to the off topic list though.  
> We’ve filled the inboxes of folks only interested in Macs and Devices a lot 
> today and that’s 

Re: Off topic but i hope you folks in New York and New Jersey are ok and keeping your heads down

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Scott,

I think its hard to gage a president while still in office. Often, the things 
they do or don’t do aren’t noticeable for years after they’ve left the post.

In Obama’s case, I would hardly say he took over with every thing smelling like 
roses. lol. Like in the case of George W. Bush, 9-11 landed in his lap, and he 
didn’t have the hype of the dot come boom to dease him a long like Clinton did.

In short, I think Presidents are often judged way too harshly, or put on too 
high a pedestal, like Reagan in my opinion. lol.

In my opinion, the best or worse a president  can do is keep us in or out of 
war, depending on the situation. Every thing else, especially domestically? Has 
to do with which side of the isle is running congress at the time, and how 
obstructionist, or helpful they are in pushing through the presidents agenda.
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Jimmy Carter absolutely sucked as a president.  He had one one of the highest 
> inflation periods, completely screwed up the middle east and is a much better 
> former president than president.  Only Obama is worse at this point.  He did 
> a lot of good (carter that is) though post presidency with things like 
> habitat for humanity.
> 
> Hillary is a criminal, liar and a gun grabbing fraud.  At least people will 
> work under trump and we’ll get out of this imbalanced trade situation.  I 
> like none of the major candidates to be clear I was hoping for Gary Johnson 
> but Hillary and her ilk are the same mindset as the jack asses in England who 
> wanted to subjugate the british people to the will of the Germans.  And we 
> won’t talk about the uranium that Hillary stole from America and gave to 
> Russia do to foundation donations and or the sale of political and government 
> positions through the same foundation.  No thank you.
> 
> We’re screwed either way, I think that’s the only way to look at it.  I would 
> just rather the clintons not get rich over the screw job any more.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Andy  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey, of course he will go on another wild rant because he actually doesn't 
>> want the job!
>> 
>> That is what most of us over here believe.
>> 
>> So what are you left with?  Hilary?
>> 
>> 
>> As a blind Scottish guy I don't really know or understand much about 
>> American politics, but I really did like Jimmy Carter!  I Know I still like 
>> him if he's still doing all that voluntary work.
>> 
>> 
>> As for Donald:  Give up an empire to become the president of the USA.  Don't 
>> think so.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Very best wishes and kind regards
>> Andy Logue.
>> From Scotland with love.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "E.T." 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 5:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: Off topic but i hope you folks in New York and New Jersey are 
>> ok and keeping your heads down
>> 
>> 
>>>  Don't let Donald Trump hear about this for he will surely go on
>>> another wild rant.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 9/19/2016 9:11 AM, Andy wrote:
 well done the Police department.
 
 They have already got one guy.  I bet he is the only one.
 
 Yet another terrible incident  hurting ordinary people, but it didn't
 take long to grab him.
 
 Well done again the NYC Police department.
 
 
 Very best wishes and kind regards
 Andy Logue.
 From Scotland with love.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
 To: "MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via" 
 Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 4:28 PM
 Subject: Off topic but i hope you folks in New York and New Jersey are
 ok and keeping your heads down
 
 
> Know we have a lot of people from that part of the world.  Sounds like
> a dicy situation there.  Hope you all stay safe and they catch
> everyone involved quickly, seems so at this point.  Good luck there
> and be careful.
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Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

[Ricardo Walker]

Interesting point, and your definitely not alone in that concern. I will say 
this though, a little over 100 years ago, people have the same concerns about 
machines in factories taking jobs.
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 9:36 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> The thing I worry about with artificial intelligence is job loss.  If robots 
> are smart enough to do the job, corporations will use them instead of paying 
> humans. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
 out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
 machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
 responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
 matching of responses like their used to be.
 
 I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
 develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
 more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
 general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
 
 Very cool in reality more than scary.
 
 I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
 and sooner than we might think.
 
 
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Resistance is futile!
>> 
>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or 
>>> collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>> 
>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>> response was “close enough”
>>> 
>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>>> 
>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>> 
>>> I don’t think 

Re: what's the latest generation intel I want to look for in a macbook pro?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Scott,

To my knowledge, the MacBook pro both 13 and 15 inch haven’t been refreshed in 
over a year. I would keep an eye out for something this fall..

hth
> On Jul 30, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I’m wondering if the pro available on the apple site now is the latest 
> design or is it still the old model?
> 
> I’m thinking of going for a 15 inch quad core I7 fully loaded but before I do 
> I want to make sure the new one isn’t coming out in september.:)
> 
> Is there an easy way to tell from the web site?
> 
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Re: System volume

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

One more thing,

I would go into system preferences/ Keyboard and under the keyboard tab, make 
sure  Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys is Unchecked. If it 
is already unchecked, check it and uncheck it once more. This way, using the FN 
key won’t be necessary to control the volume.

hth
> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalker64@gmail.comYou can also use the VO-m command twice to bring up 
> the menu extras. The system volume control should be listed there with a 
> slider. Just keep interacting with the menu and you’ll get to the slider. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> There is a function key on the wired keyboard. It is in the right hand 
>> corner somewhere. You can use VO K to get into keyboard help and find it.
>> If Function f12 doesn’t work, or if you’re not hearing the sound of the 
>> volume, you can try pressing shift f12 to hear the sound.
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
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>> JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
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>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 08:10, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. How do I turn the system volume up on my Mac Mini as F12 isn’t working. 
>>> I don’t have the FN key on this wired Apple keyboard. 
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Re: Getting rid of cable (was Netflix)

[Ricardo Walker]

Haha,

Sorry for straying so far off topic. Another company that has gone with a stand 
alone subscription model is CBS. They also have an app available for the 4th 
gen Apple TV. Look for other networks to follow this lead. 
> On Jun 27, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Ben J. Bloomgren <ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Being that this is Mac Visionaries, I'll throw it back to Apple. Ricardo, you 
> mentioned HBO. I have HBO Now, and I just got Amazon Prime again. I don't 
> know how extensive HBO Now is, because my parents subscribe to HBO via our 
> cable provider, but the HBO Now app works wonderfully on the Apple TV 4. I 
> haven't looked at Hulu, but it looks pretty good.
> 
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> On 6/27/2016 8:24, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I think the death of cable as we known it all these years has definitely 
>> started. But its going to be a long, agonizing death. lol. Netflix, Amazon, 
>> Hulu, and possibly Apple in the very near future will be speeding up this 
>> death though. I’m going to go ahead and add HBO to that mix as well, now 
>> that it is possible to purchase a stand alone subscription to their network. 
>> Its all about that original content, and how we all consume 
>> media/entertainment/news now. Just 10 years ago, we basically sat around, 
>> and waited for network execs, newspaper editors, and program directors at 
>> radio stations to tell us what was news worthy, a great TV show, and the 
>> next hot song for the summer. Terrestrial radio? Totally irrelevant. They 
>> basically just play what is getting the most hits on youtube, and look at 
>> what is topping the iTunes charts to create their playlists. They don’t 
>> discover/break new music anymore. Newspapers? Dead as dead can be. With 
>> twitter, facebook, blogs, and google to hold that all together, they are 
>> pretty much relegated as social media aggregators. I think this is a very 
>> good thing. Too few telling us a narrow version of world and current events 
>> was never a great thing.
>> 
>> Cable is just the last domino to fall. And all though it started with TV, 
>> look for broadband to be the real tipping factor. You mentioned you keeping 
>> your broadband cable connection because its the best around.  Now, in 3 to 5 
>> years when 5G is a reality for most of us in the U.S. and Europe, and VZ, 
>> T-mobile, or At start offering $30 a month wireless broadband packages for 
>> the home, with real world speeds approaching 100mb down/up? Oh man! In Big 
>> cities Like NYC Detroit, Dallas, this won’t have a huge impact. But for 
>> those who live in rural, out of the way places? Where fiber ends 2 miles out 
>> side your town, and your using DSL in 2016, and paying $50 a month for the 
>> dubious privilege? Cable is in trouble. People are going to start doing the 
>> math and saying, wait. So I can get a little box, plug it in to my outlet, 
>> and get fast internet? No person drilling holes in my walls, and staying on 
>> hold waiting for an excuse about a downed line 25 miles away affecting my 
>> service? And for less too? Sign me up. And, When I go to the in-laws, I can 
>> just bring my little box with me? Like my Apple TV, or chrome cast?
>> 
>> I think the cable people just lack the foresight. Being the King of the hill 
>> for 30 years will do that though.
>>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Scott,
>>> 
>>> I felt exactly like you do.  My husband had been wanting to cut the chord 
>>> for a long time, and I was the one dragging my feet.  But now that we've 
>>> done it, I don't miss it much at all.  There are some shows I miss like 
>>> Diners and Dives and Restaurant Impossible, but that's about it.  And we've 
>>> discovered new shows that we like that we probably would never have 
>>> discovered if we'd just been able to put the Food Network on and let it run 
>>> all night. :)
>>> 
>>> It is different, though.  If you want to watch TV, you can't just pick up 
>>> the remote and surf around.  Now, we decide what we want to watch and then 
>>> access it.  You can surf on Netflix, and probably other sources like Hulu 
>>> as well, but you surf through lists of shows, not channels.  It's funny, my 
>>> husband will occasionally still ask, "What's on TV tonight?" and I have to 
>>> remind him, it's whatever we decide to put on. :)  Neither my husband nor I 
>>> ever got our news from television, so that wasn't an issue for us.
>>> 
>>> Our cost savings is probably around $80 pe

Re: Getting rid of cable (was Netflix)

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi All,

I think the death of cable as we known it all these years has definitely 
started. But its going to be a long, agonizing death. lol. Netflix, Amazon, 
Hulu, and possibly Apple in the very near future will be speeding up this death 
though. I’m going to go ahead and add HBO to that mix as well, now that it is 
possible to purchase a stand alone subscription to their network. Its all about 
that original content, and how we all consume media/entertainment/news now. 
Just 10 years ago, we basically sat around, and waited for network execs, 
newspaper editors, and program directors at radio stations to tell us what was 
news worthy, a great TV show, and the next hot song for the summer. Terrestrial 
radio? Totally irrelevant. They basically just play what is getting the most 
hits on youtube, and look at what is topping the iTunes charts to create their 
playlists. They don’t discover/break new music anymore. Newspapers? Dead as 
dead can be. With twitter, facebook, blogs, and google to hold that all 
together, they are pretty much relegated as social media aggregators. I think 
this is a very good thing. Too few telling us a narrow version of world and 
current events was never a great thing.

Cable is just the last domino to fall. And all though it started with TV, look 
for broadband to be the real tipping factor. You mentioned you keeping your 
broadband cable connection because its the best around.  Now, in 3 to 5 years 
when 5G is a reality for most of us in the U.S. and Europe, and VZ, T-mobile, 
or At start offering $30 a month wireless broadband packages for the home, 
with real world speeds approaching 100mb down/up? Oh man! In Big cities Like 
NYC Detroit, Dallas, this won’t have a huge impact. But for those who live in 
rural, out of the way places? Where fiber ends 2 miles out side your town, and 
your using DSL in 2016, and paying $50 a month for the dubious privilege? Cable 
is in trouble. People are going to start doing the math and saying, wait. So I 
can get a little box, plug it in to my outlet, and get fast internet? No person 
drilling holes in my walls, and staying on hold waiting for an excuse about a 
downed line 25 miles away affecting my service? And for less too? Sign me up. 
And, When I go to the in-laws, I can just bring my little box with me? Like my 
Apple TV, or chrome cast?

I think the cable people just lack the foresight. Being the King of the hill 
for 30 years will do that though.
> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hey Scott,
> 
> I felt exactly like you do.  My husband had been wanting to cut the chord for 
> a long time, and I was the one dragging my feet.  But now that we've done it, 
> I don't miss it much at all.  There are some shows I miss like Diners and 
> Dives and Restaurant Impossible, but that's about it.  And we've discovered 
> new shows that we like that we probably would never have discovered if we'd 
> just been able to put the Food Network on and let it run all night. :)
> 
> It is different, though.  If you want to watch TV, you can't just pick up the 
> remote and surf around.  Now, we decide what we want to watch and then access 
> it.  You can surf on Netflix, and probably other sources like Hulu as well, 
> but you surf through lists of shows, not channels.  It's funny, my husband 
> will occasionally still ask, "What's on TV tonight?" and I have to remind 
> him, it's whatever we decide to put on. :)  Neither my husband nor I ever got 
> our news from television, so that wasn't an issue for us.
> 
> Our cost savings is probably around $80 per month, and we had a basic cable 
> package.  Our internet is still cable, and they offer the best service in our 
> area, so it's likely to stay that way for a while.  I know other people who 
> save less, because they took the same money they were spending on cable, and 
> just put it into subscriptions, Hulu, etc.  Whichever way you go, I have to 
> say that not only is it nice to be saving that money, it's also just nice not 
> to be paying for all that really bad TV--in my opinion, most of what your 
> cable gets you is a load of .
> 
> So, I'm glad we did it.  My suggestion would be to keep track of what shows 
> you get from cable that you actually value.  Then figure out whether those 
> same shows are available through another mechanism--don't rule out purchasing 
> them if you really like them.  I'm a huge Big Bang Theory fan for example.  
> That isn't available on Netflix, so I just purchased my favorite seasons on 
> iTunes.  My guess is that you won't have too much that you get from your 
> cable company that you couldn't get more cheaply elsewhere.
> 
> Good luck, and let us know if you do decide to cut the chord.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Donna, I’ve been thinking of doing the same thing but can’t quite get my 
>> head around not having channels to turn to.  I’m 

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Scott,

I’m with you hear, with the exception of the point about DRM, all the other 
points felt trivial to me. He talked about having different spec cords. Not for 
nothing, people who own Apple products been dealing with that since the first 
iPod came out using a firewire connection. lol. Some how, people’s head didn’t 
explode having a firewire cable, and also having a Mini USB cable to charge 
their brand new digital camera. Same thing when they switched to USB to 30 pin 
to get Windows PCs into the mix.

In the article, I don’t believe I saw any mention of wireless headphones, and 
how its really starting to pick up in the market.  Look around. As soon as you 
saw Beats, Sennheiser, Clipsh, B, Bower and Wilkins, Bose start making their 
top of the line consumer cans wireless? The worm had turned.

I remember saying this on the list when the talk of removing the headphone jack 
just started, and people said, well, BT audio isn’t good in comparison to 
wired. You are absolutely correct. But you know what? In audio, we are 
intrenched in the its good enough era. When people were using Apple ear buds 
and saying they sound great? I knew I was definitely in the minority. Many 
people still buy replacement headphones at 99 cent stores, or at the checkout 
line at the supermarket. lol.  I think 1 reason why this side of the argument 
keeps coming up is because blind people on average, care more about how things 
sound than people who can see.

And even more so now. Here’s an example. When I was a kid, People wanted big 
screen TVs, sure. But you know what people really wanted? a top end audio 
system. they would plan out how they were going to budget for the thing, and by 
components for the next 3 years to get it how they want it. Now? Its like, oh. 
Just pick up a sound bar from Walmart or, get a UE boom. lol. When it comes to 
audio, most will go for convenience over quality, especially wen we talk about 
mobile audio which is how much more of our music content is consumed now 
anyway. So when the author of the article talked about wait until you need to 
charge your phone and listen to music I’m like, huh? In 10 years or so, almost 
everyone will be rocking wireless headphones so, who cares? lol.  And yes, the 
3.5mm headphone jack is indeed everywhere.  But look at all the BT ready 
devices we have around us just in the last 10 years of Bluetooth really being a 
thing.

Anyone see the new BT earbuds Samsung are coming out with? truly wireless BT 
earbuds. With built in heartrate monitors. etc? No one cares how they sound 
really. Just be good enough, and pack it full of goodies for the gym rats.
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Ok two points here, very sad day that you have to edit another publication to 
> make it available here.  And btw, you missed a word that will almost 
> certainly get the moderators panties twisted in to a neat little bunch.:)  
> Even though that word is totally acceptable on your BBC btw.
> 
> That being said, I think the poster of this article has a drug problem.:)  Ok 
> hyperbolic but a little true, I think the positions are nuts.  The only one 
> that sways me a little is the DRM argument.  However, this does not scare me. 
>  I remember back in the digital audio tape days, while DRM killed the 
> consumer DAT market the units I used along with everyone else in the 
> recording game at the time had a neat little dip switch that you could set to 
> disable DRM.:)  You usually had one dip switch for sample rate, one for drm 
> and maybe 1 or 2 related to clock functions.  Flip the dip and bam, no more 
> DRM.  So I expect in future if I order my adapters from Caruso Music instead 
> of Best Buy I’ll be fine.  (if you see my point)  (the commercial gear is 
> usually better and almost always more open)  And yes the ridiculousness of 
> the state of things is not lost on me I just point out that it it is not as 
> cut and dry as proposed.
> 
> The rest of it is bunk, nobody says you have to use a wireless technology, 
> dongles are not bad, I like dongles because they allow me to customize my 
> tools to the way I need them and getting pure digital out has a lot more 
> benefits than downsides.  Since the media is entirely digital in the first 
> place and there’s no way to store analog content in a modern phone you can’t 
> make the argument that you want an analog signal path through the whole 
> system for audio quality reasons, since it starts digital leave it digital as 
> long as possible.  I can add the D/A convertor of my choice that meets the 
> spec I want and not be tied to the cheap give away DAC they include in the 
> phone.  Likewise, I can sample with the quality I want and dump it back on 
> the bus of the phone with out the phones cheap ADC getting in the way not to 
> mention quantization error as the internal sampler drifts from my external 
> digital sound source.  Unless I’m missing something, phones are 

Re: Is there any way to accept an Outlook Calendar invitation in Mail?

[Ricardo Walker]

lol,

Ok, I totally zoned out and just realized you said to accept an invite in mail. 
sigh. Sorry, long day.
> On Apr 25, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> One would think, but I saw no way to accept the invite.
> Best,
> Donna
>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Can’t you just accept an invite regardless if you are sending from Windows 
>> or Mac?  I’m fine thank you.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 25 Apr 2016, at 12:54, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I am well, I hope you are, too.  thanks for responding to my question. 
>>> Unfortunately, I'm on the other end of the equation.  Someone sent me a 
>>> Calendar Invite in Outlook, and I needed to figure out how to accept it.  I 
>>> never did figure anything out, but I emailed them back and confirmed the 
>>> appt that way, so all is well.  
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Apr 23, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Hello Donna.
 
 Hope you are doing well.  When you make an appointment in Calendar there 
 is something which says invite invitees.  So press that button and see 
 what it does.  If you are in Windows it says send an invite, something 
 like that but am not sure as I don’t do it much at work.
 
 Hope this is helpful.  If this is not correct, please let me know and I’ll 
 make an calendar appointment and see if I can find the correct button.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Kawal.
> On 23 Apr 2016, at 00:34, gs  wrote:
> 
> There is a way but I do not currently have an Outlook meeting 
> request/appointment with which to test.
> 
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Question says it all.  I don't see a way to do this.  Thanks for any help.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Is there any way to accept an Outlook Calendar invitation in Mail?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Donna and Kawal,

I feel like we’re having a mini mobile speak reunion here. :). For me, when I 
open calendar, interact with the day, and then press VO space on the event, the 
very last item is a pop up menu where I can select accept, decline, or maybe.
> On Apr 25, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> One would think, but I saw no way to accept the invite.
> Best,
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>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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>> Can’t you just accept an invite regardless if you are sending from Windows 
>> or Mac?  I’m fine thank you.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 25 Apr 2016, at 12:54, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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>>> Hi Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I am well, I hope you are, too.  thanks for responding to my question. 
>>> Unfortunately, I'm on the other end of the equation.  Someone sent me a 
>>> Calendar Invite in Outlook, and I needed to figure out how to accept it.  I 
>>> never did figure anything out, but I emailed them back and confirmed the 
>>> appt that way, so all is well.  
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Apr 23, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Hello Donna.
 
 Hope you are doing well.  When you make an appointment in Calendar there 
 is something which says invite invitees.  So press that button and see 
 what it does.  If you are in Windows it says send an invite, something 
 like that but am not sure as I don’t do it much at work.
 
 Hope this is helpful.  If this is not correct, please let me know and I’ll 
 make an calendar appointment and see if I can find the correct button.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Kawal.
> On 23 Apr 2016, at 00:34, gs  wrote:
> 
> There is a way but I do not currently have an Outlook meeting 
> request/appointment with which to test.
> 
> On Apr 22, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Question says it all.  I don't see a way to do this.  Thanks for any help.
> Cheers,
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Re: Apple Pencil with VoiceOver

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The Apple pencil is a stylus Apple sells that works with the iPad Pro models.

hth.
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> What’s an apple pencil?  This is my first time ever hearing about this.
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>> Why are you cross posting?
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>>> Anyone manage to get the Apple Pencil working with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Regards
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question about clean install of 10.11

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello everyone,

I remember in 10. 10 and 10.9 there was some accessibility issues with 
downloading the OS from the recovery partition, specifically while using wifi.

I was wondering if this issue has been resolved.

I’m thinking of doing a clean install and the fastest way for me would be erase 
the OS straight from the recovery partition, and while still in the partition, 
download the OS from the app store and proceed with the install.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: beginning of table in mail

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Hi,

I press option up arrow or down arrow to get to the top/bottom of the table.

hth
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Christina C.  wrote:
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> I cannot get Vo, shift, FN, left arrow to take me to the beginning of the 
> table in mail. This issue started with El Capitan. Any ideas, Did the key 
> combinations change? I do not have quick nav on.
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> Thanks,
> Christina
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Radio app suggestions for the 4th gen Apple TV.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello everyone,

I wasn’t sure which list was best to ask this so I’m posting to both. Sorry for 
the potential inconvenience. I was looking for suggestions for a radio 
streaming app for the apple TV. Currently, I’m using the free version of My 
Tuner radio. The app works just fine for my needs except for one thing. There 
is no way I see to favorite stations. I have like 6 or 7 I would like to 
favorite so I can switch between them quickly.

Any suggestions for apps that do this on the Apple TV 4th gen?

TIA.

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Re: YoruFukurou is driving me crazy! Please help.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

It’s a global command. It takes you to the bottom or top of many lists. for 
example, lets say you have a folder in your finder, you have a few hundred 
files in there. You can press option up or down arrow to get to the first and 
last files in that folder.

Lets take Mail. when in the messages table, pressing option up or down arrow 
takes you to the first or last message in the list.

hth.
> On Jan 22, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks, Ricardo.  Is Option+Up and down arrow only a command for Night Owl, 
> or is it a global command throughout the OS.  If the ladder, what is it used 
> for?
> 
> Chris.
>> On Jan 22, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> there is no need to ever interact with the table in night owl unless you 
>> wish to read by word or character. To get to the top of your timeline, just 
>> press option up arrow. to get to the bottom, option down arrow.
>> 
>> hth
>>> On Jan 22, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, this is driving me nuts!  I’m getting into using my mac more for 
>>> Twitter purposes, and therefore have… well… call it what you will, Night 
>>> owl, or YoruFukurou installed.
>>> 
>>> When in my main timeline tab, I’m finding that often times, whether it be 
>>> after I post a public tweet/RT, doesn’t matter, if I then look at the 
>>> table, be it interacting or not, I find that I’m not at the top row of the 
>>> table.  It used to be, this wasn’t an issue.  I could simply interact with 
>>> the table, then hit vo+Home, or in the case of my macbook, fn+VO+left 
>>> arrow, and it would jump me to the top, and I’d be on my merry way.  At 
>>> this point though, it’s seeming to become less and less reliable.  You 
>>> might say, ok, fine, interact with the table, then just keep up arrowing.  
>>> That’s great, but when you’re about 500 tweets literally down in the table 
>>> list… um… yeah.  No thank you.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone seen this, and do you know if so how to fix it?  I’ve looked 
>>> under preferences, but I see nothing I might have set that would cause 
>>> this.  The only thing I see which may even remotely be relevant is on the 
>>> general tab.  It says something to the effect of automatically scrolling to 
>>> the top.  I’ve tried both checking and unchecking this box but it doesn’t 
>>> seem to be having any effect either way on this issue.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: YoruFukurou is driving me crazy! Please help.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

there is no need to ever interact with the table in night owl unless you wish 
to read by word or character. To get to the top of your timeline, just press 
option up arrow. to get to the bottom, option down arrow.

hth
> On Jan 22, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
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> OK, this is driving me nuts!  I’m getting into using my mac more for Twitter 
> purposes, and therefore have… well… call it what you will, Night owl, or 
> YoruFukurou installed.
> 
> When in my main timeline tab, I’m finding that often times, whether it be 
> after I post a public tweet/RT, doesn’t matter, if I then look at the table, 
> be it interacting or not, I find that I’m not at the top row of the table.  
> It used to be, this wasn’t an issue.  I could simply interact with the table, 
> then hit vo+Home, or in the case of my macbook, fn+VO+left arrow, and it 
> would jump me to the top, and I’d be on my merry way.  At this point though, 
> it’s seeming to become less and less reliable.  You might say, ok, fine, 
> interact with the table, then just keep up arrowing.  That’s great, but when 
> you’re about 500 tweets literally down in the table list… um… yeah.  No thank 
> you.
> 
> Has anyone seen this, and do you know if so how to fix it?  I’ve looked under 
> preferences, but I see nothing I might have set that would cause this.  The 
> only thing I see which may even remotely be relevant is on the general tab.  
> It says something to the effect of automatically scrolling to the top.  I’ve 
> tried both checking and unchecking this box but it doesn’t seem to be having 
> any effect either way on this issue.
> 
> Chris.
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Re: Apple's headphone scam

[Ricardo Walker]

True,

but for the majority of consumers, bluetooth is good enough. High end audio is 
just wasted on many people.

JMo.
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Possibly.
> But bluetooth is not as good quality as airplay if you’re not using the atpx 
> protocol which apple doesn’t do.
> /A
>> 19 jan. 2016 kl. 00:45 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> :
>> 
>> I'm wonderring if that may be because there are so many bluetooth model 
>> devices out there, that maybe Apple just didn't see the point.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 5:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: Apple's headphone scam
>> 
>> 
>> Hi!
>> One thing i am concerned about is why there’s not any airplay headphones 
>> around yet?
>> /A
>>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 15:37, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m afraid I just can’t quite bring myself to be sufficiently moved.  I 
>>> don’t like planned obsolescence or proprietary standards either, but I’m 
>>> also in the market for a new pair of travel headphones, and I actually 
>>> would love a digital path between my iPhone and my headset.  I was not 
>>> among those poor souls hurt by the 30-pin to Lightning transition, because 
>>> I was not quite so silly as to buy expensive equipment with that connector. 
>>>  And, yes, electronic waste is a terrible, terrible thing, but I doubt 
>>> Apple will fail to provide a transition for users of the 3.5-mm plug.  I 
>>> know it’s painful, but we do need to move forward.
>>> 
>>> JMO.
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Re: Apple's headphone scam

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think "have to" isn’t the way too look at it. I mean, we didn’t have to 
abandon the 3.5 floppy, or the optical drive, or traditional hard disks. We 
didn’t have to abandon CRT monitors, and non USB connections for keyboards and 
mice. For either form or function, something better comes a long. People then 
adapt to that new thing. I don’t see why this is any different.

JMO.
> On Jan 18, 2016, at 8:49 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> None of that explains why they have to abandon the headphone jack. Your point 
> about the M4A encoding quality doesn't really address the issue, which is 
> that ITunes and Apple Music do not provide as good audio quality as other 
> providers. Surely, you are own guessing Apple's reasons for implimenting 
> this, just in the same way as I am. I am however prepared to accept that 
> there may be quite a lot of truth in what you've written my friend. I am 
> however able to take a seemingly more neutral and balanced approach to Apple. 
> I love their accessibility, but I do not appreciate the way they lock 
> customers into their products. I get the feeling that you might be an Apple 
> extremist, unable to find any fault with anything they do, advising people 
> not to speak up against their concerns. If their concerns are raised then at 
> least this helps Apple understand how their customers feel about their 
> productts, which is very valuable for any business. My Apple extremism 
> analogy seems further supported by your email signature. Apple is not a 
> religion; it is a business. There is no need to respond to critiques of said 
> business with suce emotive fervour.
> 
> Well I must say, this is out of character for me. I normally avoid 
> confrontations on email lists and forums, but I'm quite enjoying myself. Hope 
> you are too. 
> 
> .  ,
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 18 Jan 2016, at 12:09, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Frankly,  I think you are looking for a reason to abandin Apple anyway.  
>> Sounds like it to me.  I know that audio can both be received by the 
>> lightning jack as well as send it out.  Furthermore, the lightning jack can 
>> render true 5.1 channel sound.  Can your precious 3.5 MM jack do that?  Of 
>> course it cannot.  As for file resolution.  YOu are wrong in stating that 
>> .m4a only goes up to 256KBPS.  I can code it as high as 320KBPS.  I'm not 
>> sure if you bothered to really pay attention to what I said but, Apple is 
>> soon going to role out true high resolution audio.  I'm quite certain they 
>> will have the adapters for older headphone models.  
>> !
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 5:45 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does seem like a cynical money making scheme. There's no reason why they 
>>> can't have both options. All this means is that potentially people are 
>>> going to find there old headphones redundant. If Apple provide lightning to 
>>> headphone jack adapters then maybe this won't be so bad, but Apple are 
>>> pretty good at trying to corner their customers and force them into staying 
>>> Apple. You can only use ITunes  on iPhones and iPods, not android devices.  
>>> and IBooks can only be accessed on Apple devices. Whereas Kindle books can 
>>> be read on both Amazons own devices as well as iPhones and iPods. You can't 
>>> drag and drop files from your computer to your phone like you can with most 
>>> other phones. You can't get content out of your phone from other apps like 
>>> you can with other phones. As for audio quality: Apple music and ITunes 
>>> only go as high as 256 kbps. If they cared about audio quality then surely 
>>> this wouldn't be the case.  Spotify goes up to 320 kB per second, and 
>>> services like tidal have los less audio quality.
>>> 
>>> Finally, do we even know if a lightning to headphone jack would really be 
>>> possible? I do not want to be forced into buying proprietary headphones. If 
>>> this happens then I'll abandon Apple. I think it's important that people 
>>> let Apple know about their concerns. Maybe we should have done something 
>>> similar about their working conditions for their workers in China, but 
>>> that's another issue. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 11:17, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
 I would advise having nothing to do with this.  You are overlooking an 
 obvious benefit;  and it's not just more money for Apple:  rather it's 
 this.  The plain fact is that it's better to lose the headphone jack 
 because you can get much better audio out of the lightning connecter than 
 you can out of the 

Re: Having trouble reading a document with VO

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Been using a Mac since 2008. Provided your interacting with the body of the 
text, I’ve never had this problem. So that leads me to ask, are you interacting 
with the text?

Thanks.
> On Jan 18, 2016, at 7:22 PM, denise avant  wrote:
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> I wonder if this issue has been pointed out to Apple. I consider this a major 
> downer for a screen reader. I haven’t seen anything like this for any other 
> screen reader I’ve used. This is not to say that every screen reader does not 
> have some issue. but this is basic.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> For me also, every time I press vo+a, it starts reading from the beginning 
>> of the document which is just nonsense so I don't use this feature any more.
>>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 02:48, denise avant  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I have some rather lengthy documents to review. I’m using text edit to read 
>>> these documents.
>>> So, if I am on page 3 of a document, and want to do a read from the cursor 
>>> to the end of the document, rather than starting where I have arrowed to, 
>>> VO starts reading several paragraphs back when I do VO-a.
>>> Initially, I thought this was an MS Word issue. But even when I switch to 
>>> text edit, the problem persists.
>>> Has anyone seen this issue? thanks.
>>> Is there a work around.
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Re: Apple's headphone scam

[Ricardo Walker]

A couple reasons. The first being money. Why pay Apple to license airplay to 
put in your headphones, when you can just use bluetooth for wireless 
connectivity. Second is quality. I can tell you, I’ve had airplay drop far more 
than I’ve had bluetooth drop.

hth
> On Jan 18, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> One thing i am concerned about is why there’s not any airplay headphones 
> around yet?
> /A
>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 15:37, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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>> I’m afraid I just can’t quite bring myself to be sufficiently moved.  I 
>> don’t like planned obsolescence or proprietary standards either, but I’m 
>> also in the market for a new pair of travel headphones, and I actually would 
>> love a digital path between my iPhone and my headset.  I was not among those 
>> poor souls hurt by the 30-pin to Lightning transition, because I was not 
>> quite so silly as to buy expensive equipment with that connector.  And, yes, 
>> electronic waste is a terrible, terrible thing, but I doubt Apple will fail 
>> to provide a transition for users of the 3.5-mm plug.  I know it’s painful, 
>> but we do need to move forward.
>> 
>> JMO.
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Re: How to stop automatic downloads of IOS updates?

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Hi Donna,

I’m not sure there is a way to stop it all together. If its a poor cellular 
connectivity issue more than wifi/home broadband, your friend should try going 
into settings/cellular, and turning settings off. I believe this will prevent 
the update from being downloaded via cellular data at any rate.

hth.
> On Jan 19, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I'm actually posting this for a friend who lives in a rural area.  He has 
> lousy internet connectivity, and wants to stop automatic download of IOS 
> system updates.  anyone know of a way to do this?  The setting to disable app 
> downloads in iTunes?App Store settings only applies to purchased apps, not to 
> IOS upgrades. 
> thanks,
> Donna
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Re: I'll be incredibly terse, I promise! Sweetspots are not working.

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Hi,

Hotspots work pretty consistently for me in 10.11. Yes, there has been times 
where hotspots have been lost but, its been a rare thing for me. maybe 2 or 3 
times that I can recall.
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 4:16 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Just to add, hotspots don't work for me in El Capitan at all.  I set them and 
> maybe I would use a hotspot once and then they stop working.  I kept 
> reporting it to Apple during beta testing but they never fixed the feature.  
> I do miss them.  It's quite frustrating.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 12 Jan 2016, at 08:52, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Thank you so much for your response. It is greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> It's good to know that I am not the only one having this problem. I mean… 
>> Let me rephrase… It is good, but it is not good. If you know what I mean. 
>> it's good in the sense that I know I'm not crazy. It is not good in the 
>> sense that Apple really needs to either remove this feature altogether, or 
>> they need to get it fixed. It seems like if I remember correctly, it didn't 
>> work in Mountain lion, but that's been quite a while back. it might have 
>> work in the lien. I don't honestly remember, in this feeble brain of mine 
>> right now is too tired to analyze things.
>> 
>> sorry for the typos. I'm using Siri right now.
>> 
>> Anyway… Take care, and again, thank you for the help.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 22:05, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have found Sweet Spots to be quite inconsistent and I don’t recall them 
>>> working at all in Yosemite. I honestly haven’t tried them in El Capitan 
>>> because I thought Apple had gotten rid of them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 11, 2016, at 9:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 El Capitan 10.11.2.
 
 1.  Open Safari, and hit command+L.
 
 2.  Navigate to
 
 http://www.learningalley.org
 
 3.  VO+right arrow to the login link.
 
 4.  Press vo+Command+shift+right bracket right bracket to set the 
 sweetspot at that location.
 
 4.  Press command+L, then navigate to a different web site of your choice.
 
 5.  Press command+L to navigate back to the learning Alley web site.  
 Again:
 
 http://www.learningalley.org
 
 6.  Notice that Voiceover doesn't automatically focus you on the login 
 link, nor on any other link you might instead set up as the sweetspot.
 
 Note:  Apple Accessibility tried over the phone working with me on this, 
 and they reproduced the exact same behavior consistently, not just on the 
 Learning Alley web site, but on others as well.
 
 Is this a bug?  or is it that I'm not fully grasping the concept of 
 Sweetspots.
 
 For further reading, refver to the Voiceover user's guide, chapter 6.
 
 Chris.
 
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Re: Apple watch and multiple devices.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hmm,

I don’t think the situation you posed is possible actually. Your watch can only 
be paired to one IOS device at a time. And to my knowledge, that device has to 
be an iPhone. So your watch can only control music being played from the phone 
witch it is paired.

hth.
> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Ok, this might be an odd question.
> If i have my iPhone paired to my apple watch and then pair the watch with my 
> IPad Mini, when i want to play music from the apple watch or use the music 
> app there how would i know what the device the watch will play it through?
> /A
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Re: apple watch weirdness with bluetooth

[Ricardo Walker]

To me too.

When I was on the phone with Apple, the person had this attitude like, why 
would anyone want to do what your asking? They didn’t say that but, just by 
their tone. I’m like, ok. You have the ability to put music on your watch. So 
if your listening to music, jogging, cycling, etc, a calls come in, you gotta 
fish your iPhone out some pocket or bag if you would like a little privacy? And 
Keep in mind, you have headphones on already. Gotta take those off to have any 
hope of hearing the speaker on your watch. lol.

Is it a deal breaker for me? No. Mainly because my Sennheiser's support 
multiple device pairing. But it does speak to managing Expectations.

In my research on this topic, people were very annoyed that they would pair the 
watch to bluetooth in their vehicles, receive a call and instead of hearing it 
over the cars stereo, its playing on their wrist.
> On Jan 2, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
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> So, to me, this is weak sauce.
> 
> Why put the option in, you’re telling me you can’t set up a separate session 
> from the watch to phone and another from watch to headset?  Really?
> 
> Must be a hardware limitation but seems goofy to me.  But that’s me.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup,
>> 
>> Exactly. I called Apple yesterday, and this is indeed not a bug. Its a 
>> limitation caused by how they route calls. Basically, Your watch is already 
>> being treated as a bluetooth speaker/mic. So,The call is being defaulted to 
>> the watch speaker. I didn’t realize that calls were being relayed via 
>> bluetooth. I had assumed it was via wifi similar to hand off like when 
>> placing/receiving calls via a mac or iPad for example.
>> 
>> In my opinion, its quite an inconvenience.
>> 
>> Long story short, you want to take calls privately via your apple watch via 
>> bt headset? Not happening.
>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are calls heard through these Bluetooth headsets when connected to iPhone, 
>>> but are not on Watch?
>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>> I just got my pairing done with an Era.  I’ll test this and see if I can 
>>> replicate.
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
>>>> bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not 
>>>> routed to the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call 
>>>> routing to bluetooth headset. No dice.
>>>> 
>>>> So, I’ve tried 2 bt devices. My sennheiser momentum over ear wireless 
>>>> headphones, and a jawbone era.  I get the same behavior with both.
>>>> 
>>>> Any suggestions and, are others seeing this behavior?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
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Re: apple watch weirdness with bluetooth

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Just to clarify, your saying she can make and receive calls with a bluetooth 
headset that is only paired to an apple watch?
> On Jan 2, 2016, at 8:25 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My partner has never had that happen between her Apple Watch and her car's 
> bluetooth with phone calls. She also has no difficulties between her Apple 
> Watch and her bluetooth earpiece. Then again, her iPhone does the heavy 
> lifting. In other words, whilst her iPhone is near, it handles the BlueTooth 
> routing.
> 
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>> On 3 Jan 2016, at 09:27, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> To me too.
>> 
>> When I was on the phone with Apple, the person had this attitude like, why 
>> would anyone want to do what your asking? They didn’t say that but, just by 
>> their tone. I’m like, ok. You have the ability to put music on your watch. 
>> So if your listening to music, jogging, cycling, etc, a calls come in, you 
>> gotta fish your iPhone out some pocket or bag if you would like a little 
>> privacy? And Keep in mind, you have headphones on already. Gotta take those 
>> off to have any hope of hearing the speaker on your watch. lol.
>> 
>> Is it a deal breaker for me? No. Mainly because my Sennheiser's support 
>> multiple device pairing. But it does speak to managing Expectations.
>> 
>> In my research on this topic, people were very annoyed that they would pair 
>> the watch to bluetooth in their vehicles, receive a call and instead of 
>> hearing it over the cars stereo, its playing on their wrist.
>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, to me, this is weak sauce.
>>> 
>>> Why put the option in, you’re telling me you can’t set up a separate 
>>> session from the watch to phone and another from watch to headset?  Really?
>>> 
>>> Must be a hardware limitation but seems goofy to me.  But that’s me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yup,
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly. I called Apple yesterday, and this is indeed not a bug. Its a 
>>>> limitation caused by how they route calls. Basically, Your watch is 
>>>> already being treated as a bluetooth speaker/mic. So,The call is being 
>>>> defaulted to the watch speaker. I didn’t realize that calls were being 
>>>> relayed via bluetooth. I had assumed it was via wifi similar to hand off 
>>>> like when placing/receiving calls via a mac or iPad for example.
>>>> 
>>>> In my opinion, its quite an inconvenience.
>>>> 
>>>> Long story short, you want to take calls privately via your apple watch 
>>>> via bt headset? Not happening.
>>>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are calls heard through these Bluetooth headsets when connected to 
>>>>> iPhone, but are not on Watch?
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I just got my pairing done with an Era.  I’ll test this and see if I can 
>>>>> replicate.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
>>>>>> bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not 
>>>>>> routed to the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call 
>>>>>> routing to bluetooth headset. No dice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, I’ve tried 2 bt devices. My sennheiser momentum over ear wireless 
>>>>>> headphones, and a jawbone era.  I get the same behavior with both.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any suggestions and, are others seeing this behavior?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Pardon me for chiming in here but, I found the end of your message kinda 
amusing.

you wrote "Between scratching the itch of the telcos upon whose generosity 
their success is highly conditioned…” Not for nothing, that doesn’t make much 
sense. Especially when talking about the Samsung Galaxy lineup, and the iPhone. 
Telcos have their backs against the wall more than ever before when it comes to 
dealing with Hero handsets like those I mention. Do you recall how many people 
flocked to At in the U.S., and other carriers who had exclusive rights to 
sell the iPhone? If you recall, Verizon turned down Apple because they wanted 
to stick their logos all over the phone, and Apple refused. People leave 
carriers to get phones, no one dumps their phone just to switch carriers. So, 
in a nutshell, the situation is the exact opposite of what you wrote. Many 
carriers are looking for the generosity from Apple and Samsung to officially 
support their networks and include the bands that they operate on their radio 
chipsets.

For example, ask T-mobile how they did when Apple finally supported their ban, 
and the phone was officially carried by T-mobile. *Shrug*. I have no issues 
with cynicism, I am actually a fan. but lets come back to earth a bit here. lol.

And ill-gotten gains from the app store? lol. Ok. Have you noticed that most 
developers put apps out on the IOS platform before Android, Windows phone, and 
others? And, they usually spend the time and resources to create better apps on 
IOS? I don’t think FB, Twitter, etc would be doing that because they were 
losing on the investment. Just saying.

Not trying to be snarky here, I just wanted to point out some things. I enjoy 
reading your posts, and I find you to be a wealth of knowledge on a diverse 
range of topics.

Happy New Year.
> On Jan 1, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Is it just a matter of activating the FM chip, though?  I thought I remember 
> reading somewhere that part of the problem was getting an antenna that could 
> be shared among all the radio frequencies.  Some phones were using the 
> headphone socket to provide the radio with an aerial, and that of course 
> makes for some unseemly requirements on listening.
> 
> And let’s not forget that this is Apple.  Between scratching the itch of the 
> telcos upon whose generosity their success is highly conditioned, the “User 
> experience” of listening to FM, and—oh, I don’t know—filling their own 
> pockets on the ill-gotten gains of app sales, is it really that much of a 
> wonder, even if they could get it working, that they’d be reluctant to do so?
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Re: apple watch weirdness with bluetooth

[Ricardo Walker]

Yup,

Exactly. I called Apple yesterday, and this is indeed not a bug. Its a 
limitation caused by how they route calls. Basically, Your watch is already 
being treated as a bluetooth speaker/mic. So,The call is being defaulted to the 
watch speaker. I didn’t realize that calls were being relayed via bluetooth. I 
had assumed it was via wifi similar to hand off like when placing/receiving 
calls via a mac or iPad for example.

In my opinion, its quite an inconvenience.

Long story short, you want to take calls privately via your apple watch via bt 
headset? Not happening.
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Are calls heard through these Bluetooth headsets when connected to iPhone, 
> but are not on Watch?
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> I just got my pairing done with an Era.  I’ll test this and see if I can 
> replicate.
> 
> > On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
> > bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not routed 
> > to the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.
> >
> > I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call 
> > routing to bluetooth headset. No dice.
> >
> > So, I’ve tried 2 bt devices. My sennheiser momentum over ear wireless 
> > headphones, and a jawbone era.  I get the same behavior with both.
> >
> > Any suggestions and, are others seeing this behavior?
> >
> > Thanks.
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Re: apple watch weirdness with bluetooth

[Ricardo Walker]

Correct,

Thats really the only way to work around this limitation. I did this with my 
Sennheisers.
> On Jan 1, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Basioli George <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hay scott, i pair my platronics you told me to get with my phone and watch 
> every day.  the trick is you need a device that can pair to 2 devices at the 
> same time like the plantronics and they automatically switch. thus when the 
> watch rings if you answer on the watch it will work
>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup,
>> 
>> Exactly. I called Apple yesterday, and this is indeed not a bug. Its a 
>> limitation caused by how they route calls. Basically, Your watch is already 
>> being treated as a bluetooth speaker/mic. So,The call is being defaulted to 
>> the watch speaker. I didn’t realize that calls were being relayed via 
>> bluetooth. I had assumed it was via wifi similar to hand off like when 
>> placing/receiving calls via a mac or iPad for example.
>> 
>> In my opinion, its quite an inconvenience.
>> 
>> Long story short, you want to take calls privately via your apple watch via 
>> bt headset? Not happening.
>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are calls heard through these Bluetooth headsets when connected to iPhone, 
>>> but are not on Watch?
>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>> I just got my pairing done with an Era.  I’ll test this and see if I can 
>>> replicate.
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
>>>> bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not 
>>>> routed to the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call 
>>>> routing to bluetooth headset. No dice.
>>>> 
>>>> So, I’ve tried 2 bt devices. My sennheiser momentum over ear wireless 
>>>> headphones, and a jawbone era.  I get the same behavior with both.
>>>> 
>>>> Any suggestions and, are others seeing this behavior?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
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Re: confirming amount of storage on a used 6th-en iPod

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi donna,

if you have a macbook,

you can just plug it in and check in iTunes.
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hey Scot,
> 
> Sorry, I guess I should have been clearer.  I know you can find out the 
> amount of storage in settings, but am unsure about whether you can bypass the 
> configuration and setup and go directly to a home screen.  Is it possible to 
> exit the configuration screen so that I can go to a home screen and from 
> there to settings?  
> thanks,
> Donna
>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 4:13 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> You can triple press the home key if the iPod is booting for the first time 
>> and activate voiceover.  A sited person could verify what’s written on the 
>> hardware or if you boot fully could could go to settings, general and about 
>> and it lists the capacity as one of the first items.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 4:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm considering purchasing a used 6th-gen iPod that was advertised on 
>>> Craig's list.  I'll be going to see it this morning.  I assume that when I 
>>> turn it on, the configuration screen will come up.  Does anyone know if 
>>> there is any way I can confirm that the iPod actually has the amount of 
>>> storage advertised?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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apple watch weirdness with bluetooth

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello everyone,

I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not routed to 
the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.

I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call routing 
to bluetooth headset. No dice.

So, I’ve tried 2 bt devices. My sennheiser momentum over ear wireless 
headphones, and a jawbone era.  I get the same behavior with both.

Any suggestions and, are others seeing this behavior?

Thanks.

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Re: Removing an app

[Ricardo Walker]

I’m pretty sure it will.
> On Dec 29, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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> If I remove an app from my IPhone, will it also automatically get deleted 
> from my watch?
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Scott,

Thanks for this. You put me on the right track. Essentially, my issue was a 
wifi limitation of the watch, not supporting 5.0Ghz networks if you can believe 
that. In 2015. smh. So, I’m also using an airport router that won’t let you 
disable a 5.0ghz radio. So, I just connected to my Fios router from my iPhone 
instead, toggled bluetooth off/on, and all was good. 
> On Dec 29, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> Ok, Ricardo, I finally got this working but it took some finessing.
> 
> Here’s what I did, your milage may vary.  First, trouble out T-Mobile I 
> called them and they were surprised this feature worked but they said they 
> wouldn’t block other devices like laptops or iPads so the watch should work.  
> After ruling out the carrier I called Apple.
>   The problem I had was the following.  Under the settings glance, I 
> would see connected over iPhone and if the phone was disabled or turned off 
> it would say disconnected and never change.  I restarted the watch, no 
> change.  I then disabled WiFi Calling and other device calling on my iPhone 
> and reenabled.  Once reenabled I then opened the watch app and went to phone 
> where a WiFi and calls subsection now appear.  I set this option to on and 
> allow to sync.  Still no go.  I then open the iCloud section of settings on 
> my iPhone, click on the part that’s my name and wait, I’m prompted with a 
> password and a few times I’m told it fails do to an ID server error.  Once it 
> authenticates which I achieved by repeating the login process 3 times the 
> watch synced.  I turned off the phone and with in 10 seconds it said 
> connected to WiFi.  I then opened the phone app, clicked on recents and 
> picked a number where the call completed once I tapped on it’s label.  It 
> worked perfectly.  Incoming calls also work with the phone off.  Once the 
> phone restarts the connection reverts to the phone.  The watch should join 
> any simple access points I’ve joined previously now.  It won’t log in to 
> captive portals or cert based authentication environments etc.
> 
> Let me know if that helps at all.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup,
>> 
>> Exactly. In the United States, T-mobile, Sprint and AT now support wifi 
>> calling. Thats why I’m confused that it works on all my other apple devices 
>> but not the watch.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think this is another one of those features that has to be supported by 
>>> the carrier. When I first got my watch, Sprint did not have it, so if the 
>>> phone was on Wifi calling, the watch would simply not ring at all. If I was 
>>> away and the phone was on cellular, the watch did ring. Now that Sprint 
>>> enabled this feature, it works on both. I thought this phone calling 
>>> through the watch was over bluetooth, but I guess it is a direct connection 
>>> to the carrier you have.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" <sc...@qualityip.net>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
>>> tried this.
>>> 
>>> I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though.  When 
>>> I get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see if I 
>>> see something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue though but 
>>> I will confirm.
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices 
>>>> to use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as 
>>>> well. So I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The 
>>>> call fails every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad 
>>>> rings, my Mac rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed 
>>>> have a wifi connection, I double checked that.
>>>> 
>>>> I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
>>>> apple watch does not show up in this list.
>>>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ye

wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello everyone,

I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no luck. It 
works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the watch.

Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the T-mobile 
network.

Thanks.

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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices to 
use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as well. So I 
turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The call fails 
every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad rings, my Mac 
rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed have a wifi 
connection, I double checked that.

I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
apple watch does not show up in this list.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work.  I’m 
> able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue / 
> symptoms do you see with the watch?
> 
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no luck. 
>> It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the watch.
>> 
>> Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
>> T-mobile network.
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Yes.

There is definitely some lag. I’ve realized I have to swipe through certain 
screens slower than I would wish.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Another thing I’m noticing as a new Apple watch user.  When you two finger 
> swipe up through the various activities and views even if you swipe slowly 
> and allow the screen to redraw do you sometimes find that nothing updates?  
> Also, I find in other places a similar thing where changes don’t appear to 
> the display.  Anyone else notice this?   I’m running the latest Watch OS 2.1.
> 
> Thanks
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

Yup,

Exactly. In the United States, T-mobile, Sprint and AT now support wifi 
calling. Thats why I’m confused that it works on all my other apple devices but 
not the watch.

Thanks.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote:
> 
> I think this is another one of those features that has to be supported by the 
> carrier. When I first got my watch, Sprint did not have it, so if the phone 
> was on Wifi calling, the watch would simply not ring at all. If I was away 
> and the phone was on cellular, the watch did ring. Now that Sprint enabled 
> this feature, it works on both. I thought this phone calling through the 
> watch was over bluetooth, but I guess it is a direct connection to the 
> carrier you have.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" <sc...@qualityip.net>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch
> 
> 
> So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
> tried this.
> 
> I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though.  When I 
> get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see if I see 
> something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue though but I 
> will confirm.
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices to 
>> use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as well. So 
>> I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The call fails 
>> every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad rings, my Mac 
>> rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed have a wifi 
>> connection, I double checked that.
>> 
>> I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
>> apple watch does not show up in this list.
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work. 
>>> I’m able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue / 
>>> symptoms do you see with the watch?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no 
>>>> luck. It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the 
>>>> watch.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
>>>> T-mobile network.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
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Re: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think this has to do with the complication setup.

from the main clock face of your watch, press down hard, and you will be on the 
page to select your watch face. By default, I believe you are on the module 
clock face. 1 finger swipe from left to right navigates through the clock 
faces. swipe down with with 1 finger to customize and double tap. where you 
have the complication for the world clock, select your current timezone.  Keep 
in mind, if you want more option here, open the clock app on your iPhone. 
select the world clock tab, and you can erase Cupertino altogether, or add 
different cities that will then show up when you are customizing your 
complications for your clock faces.

hth.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On my clock face there’s the time in Cupertino if you swipe all the way left. 
>  I tap on this and select new york but it never changes with voiceover.  I 
> also removed Cupertino from my clock app.  Any suggestions would be most 
> appreciated.
> 
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Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Ronda,

Merry Christmas to you and Ben. :)

No, both are not needed to switch over to Windows. I have little experience 
with VM Ware but used boot camp quite a bit.

If you restart your Mac, and when you here the start up chime hold down the 
option key, you will be place on a screen to select which OS you want to boot 
into. Sadly there is no Voiceover on this screen. But you will only have 3 
options. Recovery HD, Mac OS X, and Windows. Pressing the left/ right arrows 
will navigate through the options, and enter will select. If you could possibly 
have someone tell you how many times you need to press the arrows to land on 
windows, you’ll be golden.

I hope this helps.

Again, great to see you on here.
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:
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> I am just wondering if both VM-Ware Fusion and Bootcamp are needed in order 
> to run Windows on a mac?
> I have both on my system  and have difficulty switching between windows and 
> the mac system; I do not see the bootcamp disc in the settings to select 
> which disc one wants to startup.
> Thanks for any thoughts.
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Re: My first minor complaint about the Apple Watch

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Hi,

I totally agree here. When handoff was first introduced, I wonder why you can 
shift the call from your non cellular device to your phone, Mac, iPad, etc, but 
not the other way around.
> On Dec 26, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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> It's not really a big deal over all, but I do think it's inconvenient.  
> Technically, this issue goes even further out though than just the Apple 
> Watch, as you can't do this with I O S devices in general that I know of.
>  
> Let's say I'm in the car, and I have my IPhone in my pants pocket.  Now, I 
> either get an incoming call, or need to make an outbound call.  No problem.  
> Just raise my wrist, and make it for now on the watch.  No need to yank out 
> my phone.  Once I get to my destination, get out of the car, grab my phone, 
> unlock it, and then quickly double tap on the status bar.  Bam!  I just 
> handed that call on my watch off to my phone, and now can continue on the 
> phone.
>  
> That's great, but, what if I'm at home, and all of a sudden time gets away 
> from me, now I have people downstairs waiting for me to leave with them.  I 
> don't want to have to be figetting around with my IPhone while trying to open 
> the cardoor, while trying to put on my seatbelt, while standing on my head, 
> barking like a dog.  My point is, There is no way that I see to hand an 
> IPhone call off to the watch.  I can go the other way, watch to phone, but 
> not phone to watch.
>  
> If I could go phone to watch, then come time to leave, I could just hand it 
> over to the watch, already happily on my wrist, throw the phone in my pocket 
> while walking downstairs, and be done with it.
>  
> I also don't see why Apple can't make this an option to go from the phone to 
> an IPad or a mac.  If you can go from them to the phone, then why not the 
> oppisit way.  Seems a little stupid to me that it wouldn't be A-Syncronis.
>  
> Maybe I'm just overthinking things.  Who knows!
>  
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Re: Apple watch keeps making a clicking sound

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Hi Scott,

I was lucky enough to get an Apple watch for Christmas as well. Try going into 
the watch app on your iPhone and then general/wake screen. Turn this off.  I 
think that should do the trick.
> On Dec 26, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I was lucky and received a nice new Apple watch under the tree.  I ended up 
> with the 42 millimeter stainless steel version with the metal magnetic type 
> band.  Love the fit and feel so far.  My question is this.  I have VO and 
> everything enabled but I notice that periodically and it can be anything from 
> a few seconds to a few minutes the watch makes like a click click sound, one 
> or two quick clicks and then it stops, waits and does it again.  Any idea 
> what this is?  Also, any general pointers would be great.
> 
> Thanks and happy holidays all.
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Re: Apple watch keeps making a clicking sound

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Just to add to this, you can also wake the watch by just tapping on the screen. 
I personally set the watch to stay on for 15 seconds. 70 is too long in most 
circumstances I find myself using the watch for.. I would also recommend going 
into voiceover settings and turning off speak on wrist raise.

hth
> On Dec 26, 2015, at 1:15 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Scott
> You need to go to the watch app on your phone and  general,  have wrist 
> detection on, and then go to  wake screen button just below rist detection 
> and open it and in there turn it off.  The clicking is everytime you move 
> your wrist the screen wakes up and then it goes to sleep and does the clicks.
> Then flick down to on tap and choose the 70 second time so voice over will 
> have time to read the entire screen to you when your doing something.
> 
> Now when set up like this when you move your wrist only the time will show 
> for sited persons.
> To have the watch tell you the time I found the best is to push the crown 
> button once and it will start speaking to you.  To put the screen to sleep 
> just put your palm of your hand on the screen and you hear those same 
> annoning clicks.
> 
> How is that
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 09:58
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Apple watch keeps making a clicking sound
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was lucky and received a nice new Apple watch under the tree.  I ended up 
> with the 42 millimeter stainless steel version with the metal magnetic type 
> band.  Love the fit and feel so far.  My question is this.  I have VO and 
> everything enabled but I notice that periodically and it can be anything from 
> a few seconds to a few minutes the watch makes like a click click sound, one 
> or two quick clicks and then it stops, waits and does it again.  Any idea 
> what this is?  Also, any general pointers would be great.
> 
> Thanks and happy holidays all.
> 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and dictation on iOS

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

there is a command to show/hide the virtual on screen keyboard. Depending on 
the keyboard your using, the command might differ. On the Apple bt keyboards, 
pressing the eject key will do the job. There is no way to do this from the IOS 
device itself. I guess a work around would be to turn off bluetooth, and turn 
it back on when you want to use the keyboard again.

hth
> On Dec 20, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I've just started using a Bluetooth keyboard with my new iPad air two, and 
> I'm finding that when I have the keyboard connected, I lose the capacity for 
> dictation. This doesn't work out too well as dictation is a major feature for 
> a drink text. Is there someway I can activate dictation in a nap, say like 
> pages or notes, whilst I have a Bluetooth keyboard connected?
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.

[Ricardo Walker]

My bad. Should have read further down the thread. haha.
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I think that was Sonos that doesn’t stream audible anymore.
> 
> Thanks.
>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve heard good things about their speaker systems as well.  I did hear 
>> though they just lost their ability to stream audible books which is a 
>> negative but I definitely have heard good things about the hardware.  The 
>> app is supposed to are very accessible as well.
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> They say Sonos is great too. Especially the Sonos app. Sonos connect 
>>> streaming device without speaker i.e. only a streaming box via wi-fi or 
>>> ethernet, then airplay via IOS device. This Sonos connect you can plug into 
>>> your stereo hifi system you already have and listen through your own 
>>> speakers if you prefer to listen that way. This can be a good solution 
>>> because you can within the Sonos app mix songs from apple music, spotify, 
>>> tidal, deezer and own ripped songs from cd’s or lp’s i.e. one playlist 
>>> containing songs from several streaming companys + songs from you own 
>>> downloads.
>>> 
>>> The only downside of Sonos connect that i can think of is that the device 
>>> hardware is about 10 years old. Can play cd quality files up to 16bit 
>>> 48Khz. Not 24bit 192Khz alac or flac files. This because Sonos developers 
>>> think it is no sound difference that humans can hear. But, i guess they 
>>> launch a new unit that can do next year because of the competition. 
>>> 
>>> About setup etc. you have to ask on the viph...@googlegroups.com list or 
>>> googel it. 
>>> 
>>> Take care
>>> 
>>> 2. nov. 2015 kl. 14:58 skrev george b <gbma...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> Then what are the best speakers 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 05:49
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.
>>> 
>>> B speakers are usually pretty good.  I’ve had good luck with them in 
>>> higher end audio installations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Kawal.
>>>> 
>>>> It's a great speaker if the reviews are any indication.
>>>> 
>>>> The control app seems to work well with VoiceOver although there are some 
>>>> unlabeled buttons.
>>>> 
>>>> Looking forward to the product.
>>>> 
>>>> Yours truly,
>>>> 
>>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/1/2015 8:07 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>>> I have certainly used the Zeppelin Air but may be not the one you speak 
>>>>> of.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Very easy to download the Control app from the app store and install the 
>>>>> Zeppelin Air by following the onscreen instructions.  I will have a look 
>>>>> at this new product as I loved the airplay speaker.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>> On 31 Oct 2015, at 16:25, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone have experience with these speakers?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any feedback on set up etc would be appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yours truly,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Scott,

I think that was Sonos that doesn’t stream audible anymore.

Thanks.
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I’ve heard good things about their speaker systems as well.  I did hear 
> though they just lost their ability to stream audible books which is a 
> negative but I definitely have heard good things about the hardware.  The app 
> is supposed to are very accessible as well.
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>> They say Sonos is great too. Especially the Sonos app. Sonos connect 
>> streaming device without speaker i.e. only a streaming box via wi-fi or 
>> ethernet, then airplay via IOS device. This Sonos connect you can plug into 
>> your stereo hifi system you already have and listen through your own 
>> speakers if you prefer to listen that way. This can be a good solution 
>> because you can within the Sonos app mix songs from apple music, spotify, 
>> tidal, deezer and own ripped songs from cd’s or lp’s i.e. one playlist 
>> containing songs from several streaming companys + songs from you own 
>> downloads.
>> 
>> The only downside of Sonos connect that i can think of is that the device 
>> hardware is about 10 years old. Can play cd quality files up to 16bit 48Khz. 
>> Not 24bit 192Khz alac or flac files. This because Sonos developers think it 
>> is no sound difference that humans can hear. But, i guess they launch a new 
>> unit that can do next year because of the competition. 
>> 
>> About setup etc. you have to ask on the viph...@googlegroups.com list or 
>> googel it. 
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 2. nov. 2015 kl. 14:58 skrev george b :
>> 
>> Then what are the best speakers 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 05:49
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.
>> 
>> B speakers are usually pretty good.  I’ve had good luck with them in 
>> higher end audio installations.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Kawal.
>>> 
>>> It's a great speaker if the reviews are any indication.
>>> 
>>> The control app seems to work well with VoiceOver although there are some 
>>> unlabeled buttons.
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to the product.
>>> 
>>> Yours truly,
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> 
>>> On 11/1/2015 8:07 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 I have certainly used the Zeppelin Air but may be not the one you speak of.
 
 Very easy to download the Control app from the app store and install the 
 Zeppelin Air by following the onscreen instructions.  I will have a look 
 at this new product as I loved the airplay speaker.
 
 Many thanks.
 
 Kawal.
> On 31 Oct 2015, at 16:25, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with these speakers?
> 
> Any feedback on set up etc would be appreciated.
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
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Re: No way to Post to Facebook through Notification Center in El Capitan

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Shift tab doesn’t do anything for me. I stay in the edit field.

Thanks.
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:20 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hello, if you have added the social widget to the notification center, and 
> you've selected Facebook, or Twitter. Whichever one you prefer, then what you 
> do after that, it is you navigate to the edit text field type what you want 
> to type in the text field, and shift tab backwards, and then the post button 
> will appear.
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> 
>> how do i get to the post to Facebook in the first place? is it a feature i 
>> need to turn in in the notifications preferences? All i see are my 
>> notifications from Facebook but no way to post.
>> best.
>> 
>> Michael Babcock
>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>> http://yourownpay.com/
>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I just found a way, I hope it works for others as well.
>>> When you are in the edit box and you have finished writing your post, press 
>>> CTRL + Tab and then, press Tab till you get to the Post button, and press 
>>> Return.  This works for Twitter and others as well, from their. That should 
>>> do it. :)
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jeffrey
 On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
 
 You’re not, if somebody finds a way please let me know as well. I’m stuck 
 and can’t get that post button to show. What are we missing here folks. 
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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> Hey all, I hope to hear that I might be missing something but here is yet 
> another bug I have discovered in El Capitan asI just got my social 
> networks back in to the Notification Center and tried posting to Facebook 
> which is now a nightmare as you no longer can interact when writing 
> something to post to Facebook, you have to tab around once you click 
> Facebook and then after writing something there is no post button. Hope 
> to hear I am missing something, but after using El Capitan it really 
> blows me away how many minor issues and oversights I have found.
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Re: Night Owl interrupts messages

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Why interact with the table? There is no need. Just arrow down through the 
list. You will also want to make sure the window is expanded go to the windows 
menu and hit zoom.

hth
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
> messages.
> 
> Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their entirety. 
> Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be read for.
> 
> I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.
> 
> Any solutions?
> 
> Antonio
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Re: What about Logic Pro?

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Hi,

More usable? I don’t think so. I think the level of accessibility is roughly 
the same between both applications. There are indeed way, way, more features in 
logic but, many are not accessible. Plus, it really depends on what tasks you 
are looking to perform.

Thanks.
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 Compared with Garageband 10.1, is Logic Pro more usable by a blind 
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 In your opinion, for a non advanced user, worth to buy Logic Pro instead of 
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Re: el capitan

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I doubt you will have any issues. I have it running on a 2010 MBP, and have 
seen others running it with no major issues on as far back as 2009 Macbook pros.

hth
 On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys. 
 I am trying to decide if I should go any higher than Yosemite with my current 
 computer. Someone recommended that I think about staying in Yosemite because 
 I have a early 2011 MacBook Pro. I have 8 gigabytes of memory because I 
 upgraded it. What do you guys think? I suppose I could go to El Capitan (I 
 might have trouble spelling that one, too) and then hastily down grade it 
 with my Time Machine if I had problems. I don’t remember if they talked about 
 what systems could run it or not. 
 
 Did you guys notice that Maps is getting the transit app? Does anybody know 
 what cities is going to be on it? I think they flashed them up there or 
 something. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Jun 9, 2015, at 4:08 AM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Half way through the WWDC stream. 
 
 It sounds like some nice features are coming to iOS 9. ( I might revive my 
 developer account so that I can grab the beta). 
 
 Siri becoming more contextually aware will be a huge plus. 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Certificate IV in International Trade 
 
 Vocational College of Business 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 LinkedIn: 
 
 https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ 
 
 https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/
  
 
 Sent using OS X Mail 
 
 
 
 
 On 9 Jun 2015, at 4:50 pm, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 If they ran Yosemite and iOS 8, then that's your answer.
 On 9 Jun 2015, at 00:01, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Will it work on a  early 2011 Mac and iPad mini first gen
 
 On Jun 8, 2015 7:58 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 
 They will be available in the public beta program in July.
 
 hth
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 6:49 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is iOS 9 and the next version of OS X available to download as part of 
 the public beta program?
 
 Totally missed the stream.
 
 It was being streamed at some disgusting time like  3 AM in Australia.
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 Certificate IV in International Trade
 
 Vocational College of Business
 
 RMIT University
 
 LinkedIn:
 
 https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/
 
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 Sent using OS X Mail
 
 
 
 
 On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:43 am, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I just found something out which maybe Apple might fix. I found out that 
 Alex doesn't know how to say El Capitan properly lol. But getting back 
 on topic, glad to know that I'll be able to use it on this thing. I 
 missed WWDC today so did they say when the public will be able to beta 
 test it? I know we get the beta for iOS 9in July but what about El 
 Capitan?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 4:48 PM, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The way I understood the situation is that iOS 9 and El Capitan will 
 work on all hardware supported by iOS 8 and Yosemite.
 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Wouldn't we beta testers get permission to download the El Capitan beta 
 automatically? That's really not my main concern, my main concern is 
 will I be able to run it on my mid 2010 white MacBook? From what I 
 heard on Twitter, it sounds like El Capitan has an advanced graphics 
 engine or something like that. So is this the end of the line for me? 
 Yosemite I mean.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
 dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 ok, thanks, i'll just have to wait to request again. :)
 On 08 Jun 2015, at 10:28 pm, Daniel topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Probably so. Not a hundred percent sure.
 
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Re: el capitan

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

They will be available in the public beta program in July.

hth
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 6:49 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is iOS 9 and the next version of OS X available to download as part of the 
 public beta program? 
 
 Totally missed the stream. 
 
 It was being streamed at some disgusting time like  3 AM in Australia. 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Certificate IV in International Trade 
 
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 RMIT University 
 
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 Sent using OS X Mail 
 
 
 
 
 On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:43 am, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I just found something out which maybe Apple might fix. I found out that 
 Alex doesn't know how to say El Capitan properly lol. But getting back on 
 topic, glad to know that I'll be able to use it on this thing. I missed WWDC 
 today so did they say when the public will be able to beta test it? I know 
 we get the beta for iOS 9in July but what about El Capitan?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 4:48 PM, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The way I understood the situation is that iOS 9 and El Capitan will work 
 on all hardware supported by iOS 8 and Yosemite.
 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Wouldn't we beta testers get permission to download the El Capitan beta 
 automatically? That's really not my main concern, my main concern is will I 
 be able to run it on my mid 2010 white MacBook? From what I heard on 
 Twitter, it sounds like El Capitan has an advanced graphics engine or 
 something like that. So is this the end of the line for me? Yosemite I mean.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
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 ok, thanks, i'll just have to wait to request again. :)
 On 08 Jun 2015, at 10:28 pm, Daniel topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Probably so. Not a hundred percent sure.
 
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Re: Selecting nonconsecutive files in a folder

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Hi,

it works just fine. First, make sure your interacting with the browser, second, 
press VO command enter on the file to select/deselect. now, when navigating to 
the next item, you have to use VO plus the arrow keys or, have quick nav turned 
on to navigate through the list. You can not just use arrow keys to navigate.

hth

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 I can’t seem to do this no matter what I do. How is it done in Yosemite, and 
 does it actually work?
 
 Thank you.
 
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Re: Use FaceTime for phonecalls?

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Hi,

First thing, if you want to place a call over wifi using the cell connection on 
your iPhone, you need to enable this in FaceTime preferences. So check iPhone 
cellular calls.

If you just want to use face time audio though, when you press the FaceTime 
audio button, and the pop up appears, select the first option which is FaceTime 
audio. If you wish to dial a phone number using the cell connection on your 
iPhone, select the phone number in the menu. Keep in mind, both your Mac and 
iPhone need to be on the same wifi network for this to work.

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker

 On May 29, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Gary Price garypric...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Afternoon everyone!
 
 Before I got this new Macbook Pro, fellow list member and my friend 
 Christopher Hallsworth said that you can use FaceTime on the Mac for phone 
 calls.
 How do I achieve this?
 
 I want to surprise my friend John Haill at some point. But see he is out an 
 awful lot, so need to ring his iPhone.
 
 I have used FaceTime for a friend Lewis Crack, and I see when I press the 
 FaceTime audio button a little menu pops up.
 
 Thanks very much. I look forward to any responses.
 
 Take care.
 Speak soon!
 
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 Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.
 
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Re: sorry, one more playlist question

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Hi Donna,

you can go ahead and delete the playlist with the 1 after it. Those are the 
duplicates. 

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker

 On Apr 13, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 so getting iTunes match turned back on did get my playlist onto my i-devices. 
 but now I have two of many of my playlists.  So for example, I have Donna and 
 Donna1, which show as having the same number of songs and the same time 
 duration.  why has this happened?  Can I delete one of them?  IF so, which 
 one?
 thanks again,
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Re: Set Default Send Address in Mail

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Hello,

Yes. In Mail Preferences, select the compose button in the toolbar.  There is a 
pop up button labeledSend new messages from: pop up button”. By default, 
this is set to use whatever account inbox you happen to be in.  You can select 
it to default to an individual account though.

hth

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 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Is there a way to set the default send e-mail address? It seems to choose at 
 random sometimes, and I can’t figure out how to fix it.
 
 
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Re: Anyone know how to record audio for a text message on the iPhone?

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Hi Donna,

there are 2 slightly different methods. You can double tap and hold, speak, 
then let go. After this, you’ll have to find and double tap the send button. I 
find it easier to double tap and hold, speak my message, and instead of letting 
go, swipe up. This automatically stops and sends the recording. This way a step 
is eliminated.

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 On Feb 4, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I tapped the Record Audio button, and when I did it said dimmed, even though 
 it didn't say dimmed when I tapped it.  What am I missing?
 Thanks,
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Re: Google Chrome doesn't perform well under Yosemite

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Yup.

Same here.  You have to navigate by elements. Heading, link, edit field, etc to 
get around. It’s quite annoying actually. lol.

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 On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:10 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Since upgrading to Yosemite, I don't seem to be able to use Google Chrome.  
 It gets stuck on a heading and nothing works apart from moving by headings. I 
 can't read any content on pages only by heading or links but I can no longer 
 use vo+arrow keys to move about in a page.  Has anybody else experienced 
 this?  Last night, I tried another browser for mac called Aviator and it 
 behaves in the same fashion as Google Chrome does now.  Any comments?
 
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Re: shutting down a Mac Mini

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Hi,

nope. turning your computer on/off doesn’t damage any hardware.

That being said, I leave my Mac on all the time as well. I’ll restart maybe 
once every 2 or 3 weeks for any number of reasons. From updates, to general 
maintenance.

Bottom line though, you don’t really gain or lose anything either way you go.

Here’s an article about this topic.

http://www.dyminsystems.com/2012/10/04/turn-off-computer/

hth

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 On Jan 3, 2015, at 11:42 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I've said it before and I'll say it again. I never shut down my MacBook 
 unless I take it somewhere. I don't see the reason to. I don't know if this 
 is the same thing with newer Mac models, but I heard from a trusted computer 
 technician that turning off and on a computer damages a hard drive after a 
 time. I keep my Mac on all day and night and it doesn't bother anything or 
 suck up power.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’m having trouble getting my Mac mini to shut down. I press the button and 
 vo-right arrow to shut down and vo-space on it but it doesn’t shut down. I 
 think the reason is because torrent is running in the background. sometimes 
 I can tell it hasn’t shut down, but more often it doesn’t talk so I don’t 
 know until I go to turn it on next day. what can I do to make sure it 
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Re: Reader in Safari for Mac

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Hi,

I personally always assume the reader is available and press command shift R. 
But the real answer to your question is, since Safari in IOS has no menus, the 
reader button is displayed right on screen unlike on the mac. where one would 
no the reader is available or not by if its dimmed or not in the view menu.

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 On Dec 8, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wonder why with IOS, it says Reader available  but with OS X it doesn't? 
 I really wish it would.
 
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 On Dec 8, 2014, at 15:04, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks everyone, it is indeed command-shift=r and it’s amazing! Played with 
 it today and wow, how’d I miss that feature? 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 8, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Isn't it command shift r.
 
 On 9/12/2014, at 2:16 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So I see how to activate the Reader feature in iOS for web sites but how 
 does one do this in Safari on the Mac? I’m probably missing something 
 really obvious here. Thanks.
 Jenine Stanley
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Suggestions on how to get handoff to work?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello list,

I have recently purchased 2 Macs. A 2014 Mac Mini, and a 2014 Macbook air. 
Handoff works just fine on my Mac Mini with my iPad and iPhone 6. But on my 
Macbook Air, nothing. So, my Macbook air is on the same network as my Mac Mini 
and my IOS devices, and bluetooth is turned on.

Thoughts?

Thanks.

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Re: Reader in Safari for Mac

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Honestly,

It’s the best thing about Safari. I absolutely love it.

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 On Dec 8, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 It’s cmd+shift+r. Esc to exit the reader. Damn useful, that.
 
 
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 On Dec 8, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So I see how to activate the Reader feature in iOS for web sites but how 
 does one do this in Safari on the Mac? I’m probably missing something really 
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Re: Suggestions on how to get handoff to work?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Yup.

It’s in system preferences under general. I have handoff checked.

Thanks.

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 On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:55 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Recardo,
 
 There is a place in system that you need to go to and turn hand off on and I 
 am sorry not at my m b p at this time but I remember having a apple emploie 
 tell and show me a month ago
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
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 Subject: Suggestions on how to get handoff to work?
 
 Hello list,
 
 I have recently purchased 2 Macs. A 2014 Mac Mini, and a 2014 Macbook air. 
 Handoff works just fine on my Mac Mini with my iPad and iPhone 6. But on my 
 Macbook Air, nothing. So, my Macbook air is on the same network as my Mac 
 Mini and my IOS devices, and bluetooth is turned on.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: DropBox for iOS more accessible

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Now,

If we could get them to make it more accessible on the Mac.

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 On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:39 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Just found this article where DropBox paired up with folks from AppleVis to 
 make the iOS app more accessible:
 
 https://blog.dropbox.com/2014/11/making-dropbox-for-ios-more-accessible/
 
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Re: hermes

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Hi,

you should check out current. It’s a pretty good facebook app you can get from 
the Mac app store.

thanks.

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 On Dec 2, 2014, at 6:12 AM, Juliette Swiler jmswi...@samobile.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am wondering where I might find this application? Thanks. Now if only we 
 could get an accessible Facebook application for the Mac.
 On Dec 2, 2014, at 12:56 AM, deedra waters dee...@the-brannons.com wrote:
 
 I’m wondering if anyone knows how to stop it’s notifications every time it 
 starts a new song. Normally i wouldn’t care but when working it’s rather 
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Re: OT: WebEx

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Hello,

I was just thinking, if it’s only a case of unlabeled buttons, could you have 
someone tell you what the buttons are, so you can label them yourself with 
Voiceover?

Thanks.

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 On Nov 30, 2014, at 12:08 AM, Ezzie Bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, friends:
 
 I appologize for the off-topic message; however, I'm not sure where
 else to turn with my question regarding WebEx. Do any of you have any
 experience using WebEx? (WebEx is a platform used to hold meetings
 online, where calls are not dropped--unlike Skype and FaceTime.) I'm
 taking music lessons online, and my instructor prefers WebEx over any
 other platform. I had a hard time connecting to the meeting that she
 started, as the buttons were unlabeled.
 Is there a work-around for being able to join meetings on WebEx? Or
 should I inform my instructor that WebEx will not work out for me?
 Any help/feedback is appreciated.
 
 Thanks! :-)
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Re: OT: looking for recommendations for good headphones

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Hi,

If your looking for over the ear, and something you can just wear for a long 
time in comfort, I recommend the Sennheiser Momentums. I’m using them right 
now, and absolutely love them. The ear pads are extremely plush, and the band 
is made of titanium. Very good build quality hear. And, the cable is 
detachable. You also get a cable with a mic and playback control for Apple 
devices.

hth 

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 On Nov 28, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Sadly, the deal was gone by the time I got to it. Trust me, it was all I 
 could do not to punch a wall. smile
 
 Now, it's between the Sonys and a set a friend swears by: the Grado SR80E. 
 Both are similarly priced. The only hesitation I have with the Sonys (which 
 another friend loves) is that reviews say they are studio monitors. That's 
 great for, well, monitoring, but it makes them (according to the review) 
 sound flat and not as good while gaming or just enjoying music. The guy I 
 know who uses them, though, says they work great. Needless to say, I'm 
 desperately wishing I could try all these in person, but that won't happen. 
 Any thoughts? I'll have to pick one or the other today… Thanks for all the 
 help so far.
 On Nov 28, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Aser Tolentino agtolent...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Most assuredly, yes! :)
 
 Respectfully,
 Aser Tolentino, Esq.
 
 On Nov 28, 2014, at 04:20, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Okay guys, here we go. The Sony MDRV6 with CCAW voice coil is currently 
 $50. However, a pair of Senheisser 598s is currently just $100, and those 
 puppies are apparently far more expensive normally. Again considering 
 accurate sound reproduction, wearing them for long stretches, and overall 
 quality, is the extra $50 worth it for the Senheissers? I'm leaning toward 
 yes, but I'm not sure. Here's the link:
 http://9to5toys.com/2014/11/28/amazon-goldbox-sennheiser-598-bose/
 agtolent...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If long-term comfort is a priority, Sennheiser's higher end headphones are 
 the way to go, their ear cushions are ridiculously soft. The MDRV6 has 
 replaceable ear pads, but I'm not sure about the cord. I'd say the Sonys 
 would be a good bet at that budget and for the application.
 
 
 On Nov 25, 2014, at 09:14, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I recommend Boes. Again, they’re expensive but I really believe it is 
 worth the price and you’re getting what you pay for. the QC 25 are 
 excellent and they even make bluetooth iPhone style earbuds as well.
 On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Great point, I hadn't considered that. So it looks like Sony and 
 Sennheiser are the favorites. I'm avoiding Beats, because they're just 
 over-priced, but are there any other brands/models people like? I'm 
 headed to Best Buy today to have a look at any demo units they have 
 available so I can hear and feel some of these headphones. Thanks again 
 for all the suggestions.
 On Nov 25, 2014, at 11:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Another thing to consider is longer-term investment. About 15 years ago 
 I bought some nice high-end Sennheiser studio headphones after years of 
 going through cheapie sets. They sound great and are super comfortable 
 with a hard outer shell which blocks a lot of noise. I guess you could 
 find that in any manufacturer's headsets but what pro ones have is 
 replaceable parts. About four years ago the pads which go around my 
 ears were starting to come apart and I was able to just order a 
 replacement set making them like new again. Likewise about a year ago 
 the cord finally started making intermittent connections after so many 
 years of be pulled and folded. Ordered another cord and was able to 
 replace it (each ear has a small plug). So I probably paid about $200 
 or so back then but I really have no plas of ever buying another set of 
 headphones as long as Sennheiser keeps making parts available.
 
 CB
 
 On 11/24/14, 5:30 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
 Hi Alex,
 It all depends on your price range. I'm a huge fan of Senheizer 
 headphones, Sony's are nice too.
 Of course, if you really want to get expensive, Bose headphones, or 
 even Beats by Dre.
 
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com
 
 On Nov 24, 2014, at 17:28, matthew dyer 
 ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex.
 
 Hope you find something good.  If you do please share as ,like you I 
 am looking as well.  
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Nov 24, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm looking to replace my current headphones. They were $10 or $20 
 from Radio Shack, but have been working great for at least eight 
 years. They still work perfectly, in fact

Re: up specking a new MacBook Air

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I wouldn’t bother with the processor up grade. I actually just got an 11 inch 
Macbook air today.

Just upgrade the RAM, and get as much storage as you can comfortably afford.

hth

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 On Nov 28, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 I'm thinking about purchasing the 11 inch MBA. Am I right in thinking that 
 adding more ram will be more beneficial to a blind person than upping the 
 processor from 1.4 to 1.7?
 Would 8 GB of ram be enough in the 11 inch, 256 Flash drive model? Does the 
 added processor speed really make a difference if you're not using many 
 graphics? Will I notice any improved speed from my 2011 MBP which is slow at 
 opening programmes sometimes. 
 
 It really gets expensive adding processor speed and ram.
 Any thoughts welcome.
 Also, like the other person, I really need simple instructions about how to 
 clean my old Mac for a new user. I don't know how to get into the recovery 
 petition and the thought terrifies me if Im honest. Isn't there a simple 
 Apple setting to restore to factory defaults like there is on the iPhones? 
 
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Re: mac mini 2012 and usb 3.0?

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Hello,

all 4 ports are USB 3.0.

Thanks.

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 On Nov 23, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 from left to wright what ports are usb 3? or is all the ports usb3?
 
 On 11/23/2014 12:15 PM, Kliph wrote:
 That is not correct.  I had a Mac mini 2012, and it had USB 3.0.  And all 
 the ports support it. The Mac mini and 2012 iMacs were the first to get it.
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
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 On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I’m almost certain its got USB 2. Even the mac book airs from last year 
 didn’t come with USB 3. to my knowledge, only the MBP and the mac pros got 
 USB 3, and this year the 5K iMac.
 On Nov 23, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
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 Hello on the mac mini 2012 model what ports are the usb 3 ones?
 
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Re: mac mini 2012 and usb 3.0?

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Hello,

This is not the case.  All Macs released from mid 2012 have been shipping with 
USB 3.0.

Thanks.

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 On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I’m almost certain its got USB 2. Even the mac book airs from last year 
 didn’t come with USB 3. to my knowledge, only the MBP and the mac pros got 
 USB 3, and this year the 5K iMac.
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Confirmation of a major VO bug in the latest version of Garageband.?

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Hi folks,

below is a link to audio I recorded demonstrating a bug in the latest version 
of Garageband. Basically, I no longer have the ability to work with regions. 
Meaning, looping and resizing them. As well as cut, cop, and paste them in my 
timeline.

Can others confirm this?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5326929/garageband%20Voiceover%20bug%20-%20content%20empty%20in%20regions.m4a

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Re: Confirmation of a major VO bug in the latest version of Garageband.?

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Hello,

Yes. If you could report this again to the apple accessibility team, I think 
that would help. 

Thanks.

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 On Nov 21, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Gabriele Battaglia 
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 Ricardo Walker, alle 13:41 del 21/11/2014, scrisse:
 Hi folks,
 
 below is a link to audio I recorded demonstrating a bug in the latest 
 version of Garageband. Basically, I no longer have the ability to work with 
 regions. Meaning, looping and resizing them. As well as cut, cop, and paste 
 them in my timeline.
 
 Can others confirm this?
 
 Hi Ricardo.
 All confirmed. Is the same here and I wrote a message both to thiis list and 
 to the Apple's accessibility team, as soon as GB were sent out.
 Could we notice it once again to them?
 
 Gabriel.
 
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Re: encountered the keyboard issue once again

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Hi,

This might be stating the obvious but, when this problem popped up for you, did 
you try turning Voiceover off and then back on?

Thanks.

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 On Nov 20, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I once again encountered the keyboard issue I had the last time I was using 
 Yosemite. to sum up, my keyboard completely stops working. I cannot arrow up 
 and down unless I enable quick nav and I am not able to close any apps as my 
 keystrokes fail to work. the only way to can do anything is with my trackpad 
 but I obviously can’t close any apps with it.
 This time around however, I will not downgrade back to Mavericks unless the 
 problem becomes unbearable. I’m somewhat hopeful the problem won’t be as bad 
 as it took me over four days of using OS 10.10.1 before the problem reared 
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Re: Interview recording mac

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Hi,

If your using skype or facetime to make the call, audio hijack pro is the best 
for this.

Thanks.

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 On Nov 15, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Krysti Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone I wanted to know what's the best recording software or way to 
 record an interview with someone like you and the person your interviewing on 
 the mac 
 
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Re: Alex voice

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Hi,

that's not what they meant.  They are saying, if you don't have a 5S, you can 
not get Alex on your iPhone.  It will only work on Apple devices with a 64 bit 
processor.  5S, iPad mini retina, and the iPad air.  And of course, the iPhone 
6 and 6+ come tomorrow.

hth

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 On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:29 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's interesting, I thought sense the 5s is a newer phone, it would support 
 Alex, so you have to upgrade to the 6, in order to get support for him?
 On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 There are a couple.
 
 First, no 5S, no Alex.
 
 Second, you have to download it. Go into settings / general / accessibility 
 / speech / voices and select it to download. Bear in mind, it's 869MB so 
 will take a while.
 
 Next, you'd probably have to switch your default voice to be Alex in 
 Voiceover. Even if it says default is Alex, it will still talk with 
 Samantha's voice. If memory serves, a reboot of your phone should set that 
 right. 
 
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 On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 wondering the same thing
 
 
 On 9/17/2014 5:07 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
 Is there some sort of secret to turning on Alex voice?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: controlling the mouse pointer help please

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Hello,

Pressing the option key 5 times quickly, toggles on/off mouse keys.

hth

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 On Aug 19, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I need to access a button on a flash based website that is just to the left 
 of a link. VoiceOver ignores this button as if it does not exist. The only 
 thing that I can think of is to use mouse keys to move the pointer to the 
 left and perform a mouse click. I did get this to work but I am having 
 difficulties because turning mouse keys on seems to make my usual keyboard 
 commands not work well. I was mainly wondering if maybe there is a quicker 
 method of toggling mouse keys on and off. I know about the option, command, 
 F5 to bring up the option to turn mouse keys on or off. However, I find this 
 extremely time consuming, especially since when mouse keys are on, I have a 
 lot of trouble navigating with voiceover to get to the check box to uncheck 
 mouse keys. I'd appreciate any help. I am open to any other ideas than what I 
 have tried thus far.
 
 BTW, I do not hav a num pad.
 
 Thanks so very much,
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Re: Torrent client recommendation?

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Hello,

Try uTorrent.  It's pretty simple, as well as accessible.

hth

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 On Aug 19, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can someone recommend a torrent client for the Mac other than MicroTorrent?  
 The interface on that one makes no sense to me at all.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: controlling the mouse pointer help please

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Hello Christine,

Go to system preferences/accessibility, and arrow down to  Mouse and trackpad.  
Vo right arrow over to the option button and select that.  on the next screen, 
make surePress the Option key five times to toggle Mouse Keys box is 
checked.

hth.

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 On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, but It's not working. What could I be doing wrong? I tried my left 
 and my right option key, not at the same time of course. :) 
 
 Thanks,
 Christina
 On Aug 19, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Pressing the option key 5 times quickly, toggles on/off mouse keys.
 
 hth
 
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a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

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 Hello list,
 
 TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has 
 just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the Mac.  
 For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by testing it, 
 and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it here.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html
 
 hth

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Re: a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

sure.  It's accessible.  It's just very buggy. They are asking Mac users, 
especially those who use Voiceover to try it out and report back to them on 
bugs, and enhancements.

Thanks.

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 On Aug 18, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi. Is it accessible? I liked it on Windows and am interested in trying the 
 Mac version.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Candler kjsc.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am testing TW blue right now and  it seems to be quite good! still
 bugs, as expected, but, I do like it a lot!
 
 On 8/18/14, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has
 just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the
 Mac.  For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by
 testing it, and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it
 here.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html
 
 hth
 
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Re: a possibliy new alternative for an accessible twitter client

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Yes.

Check out the link.  They have an .app file available for download.

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 On Aug 18, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 is there a binary file out yet? I don't want to have to build from source and 
 all that.
 
 On 8/18/2014 4:22 PM, Jonathan Candler wrote:
 I am testing TW blue right now and  it seems to be quite good! still
 bugs, as expected, but, I do like it a lot!
 
 On 8/18/14, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 TWBlue, which was an accessible twitter client on the Windows platform has
 just released what is basically an alpha version of their client on the
 Mac.  For those who want to help them get their client up to speed, by
 testing it, and reporting bugs, you can read about it and download it
 here.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55398785/software/readme.html
 
 hth
 
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Re: The new GarageBand version 9. Help?

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Hi,

Yes.  It is sort of a mixed bag in Garageband 10.  They've added accessibility 
in some areas, and took it away in others.  It's quite frustrating to be 
honest.  The audio feedback when moving through one's project is sorely missed. 
 Instead of using the arrows in GB 10, you can use the comma and period keys.  
Voiceover won't say anything but, this will move you by bars through the 
timeline.

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On Jun 4, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Sackville McLauchlan 
phantom.va...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all!
 
 Has anyone else found the new GarageBand (version 9) actually less accessible 
 than the previous version?  Specifically, I've found that VO no longer speaks 
 as you arrow up and down your tracks unless you interact with the track-pain. 
  Also, it seems that the left and right arrow-keys no longer move you back 
 and forth through your song unless you're in score-viewer.  Instead, you 
 apparently have to navigate over and click on a set of buttons.  Anyway, I'm 
 finding that these changes make it a lot trickier to be sure of where I am in 
 my song, and, in fact, have resulted in my accidentally recording over stuff! 
  So I'm wondering if anyone's found any good work-arounds?  Any help would be 
 greatly appreciated!
 
 Thanks.
 
 = Amy McLauchlan = Radical Dark Dreamer!
 
 http://www.reverbnation.com/radicaldarkdreamer
 
 http://www.facebook.com/radicaldarkdreamer
 
 http://amymclauchlan.wordpress.com/
 
 
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Re: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue

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Hi,

I would try turning off trackpad commander.  It sounds like it's turned on, and 
Voiceover focus is being moved around.

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On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Brent Harbolt harb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could part of your hand be touching the touchpad or trackpad? I notice this 
 happens for me sometimes. I wish there was a way to lock or disable the 
 trackpad like on windows laptops.
 
 Brent Harbolt
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 Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:03 PM
 Subject: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue
 
 
 I am so aggravated. For the past two days, when I write in email or Text 
 Edit, I hear beeps or clicks every few words or so, and focus is lost and 
 goes to the top or bottom of the screen, or after a clicking sound, something 
 pops up, like dock or preferences or reading menus. Something very odd 
 is going on. I have tried rebooting. I have asked a sighted person as I type 
 if anything is popping up on the screen, but nothing appears. The problem is 
 increasing in frequency and interfering with my ability to get work done. 
 Just now, it happened again, and the edit menu popped up, even though I did 
 not do anything which should have resulted in its coming up. Please help ASAP.
 
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Re: how to play on Itunes by album

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Hi,

Why not type in the artist and album title in the search field and press enter? 
 When you do this, the album show up in the songs table, and in chronological 
order.

hth

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On Apr 14, 2014, at 11:29 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 so what can we do now? i want to play an album called cruisin which there a 
 lot of artist and song on it. wish, they could bring back the 10th version of 
 the itunes
 On 15 Apr 2014, at 01:08 am, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've had that happen with a various artists compilation album/folder as 
 well, and have no idea what brings that on either, and find this really 
 annoying, considering the fact that I want these tracks played in 
 chronoligical order.
 On Apr 14, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 when im on the album view, the albums are not sorted aphabetically also, 
 then when i press what you did, ctrl + option M, it dowsn't apear play 
 album, it it only apear play the name of the song, and some other album 
 play the name of the album. can i trun back the itune 190, i prefer that 
 version
 On 13 Apr 2014, at 05:55 am, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well,
 
 If I understand your question a-right, in album view you bring up a 
 context menu--VO-Shift-m-- press play album title with VO-SpaceBar.  If 
 that's not what you're asking, could be more specific about the problem in 
 your next post?
 
 Thanks,
 
 CJ
 
 
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 dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 why cant i play an album with different artist continuosly, can you guide 
 me with this one, thanks in advance 
 
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Re: garage band and keyboard.

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Hello,

This depends on what version of Garageband your using.  If using Garageband 6 
or lower, It's command shift K to enable/disable musical typing.  If using 
Garageband 10, It's command K.

hth. 

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On Apr 7, 2014, at 4:26 AM, Gabriele Battaglia gabriele.battag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 
 
 You don't necessarily need a keyboard you can enable the typing window with 
 command-shift-k and parts of your keyboard turns into a musical one.
 
 GB: Hi Chris and all.
 I think the shortcut is just cmd+k, no shift needed.
 
 Gabriel.
 
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Re: Experience Switching to Mac

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Hi,

If your current e-mail account is set up as IMAP or exchange, I would just 
create a folder and just dump all the old outlook express e-mails into that 
folder.  I'm not 100% sure this will work but, I can't think of any reason why 
it wouldn't.

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On Apr 7, 2014, at 2:42 AM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Another deficit on the Mac is braille translation and music braille 
 translation. I have to continue to use Windows for this.
 I have also not found a way of importing my old Outlook Express emails into 
 Mac Mail. Supposedly some expensive apps do this, but it's not guaranteed to 
 work so haven't spent the money. Wy Apple doesn't make this work I don't know.
 That said, I love the Mac and use it exclusively for my personal needs. It's 
 just some professional tasks I still need Windows for. This includes word 
 processing which I, too find clunky on the Mac. But, maybe I need to take a 
 course and learn it properly.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 7/04/2014, at 2:06 pm, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Personally, I'm still having a tough time with word processing on the Mac. I 
 want to like and use pages, but I can't figure out styles and formatting 
 using pages. I still haven't found anything that compares with MS office and 
 JAWS for writing and formatting documents. JAWS really does work well with 
 Word and there's no getting around that. Pages seems clunky by comparison, 
 but I probably haven't given it a fair chance. Spreadsheeting with numbers 
 is great, but word processing is still a major deficit on the Mac in my 
 opinion.
 
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've been using a Mac here since February of 2008, and have not  had any
 reason to switch back to Windows.  Like a lot of people on this thread, , I 
 got tired of having to pay to keep a JAWS SMA updated, and I also had it 
 with their system of ILM authorizations.  I too, had  to have my 
 activations  reset a number of times as well.  And what got me really 
 interested, and wanting to go to the Mac, is the fact that we can do 
 complete reformats, and OS installs with VoiceOver.  Even with the 
 unattended install scripts that are out there for Windows,  and that 
 Winstaller app, which has become popular now, we still have nothing close 
 to being able to get the  OS, and do an install with full speech, or even 
 Braille.  
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 6:59 PM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well April, my offr is still on the table. If you like, I can teach you 
 how to use Voiceover. That goes for anyone that wants my help. Email me 
 off list and we'll set something up.
 
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of April
 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 4:52 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Experience Switching to Mac
 
 Hello.  About ten months ago, I was declared legally blind.  I have been 
 on the search for a full diagnosis and prognosis since.  No luck.
 
 In December, when my Windows 7 machine became totally unstable, and had 
 been reformatted three times in less than a month, I bought a  Mac.  I 
 figured, if I had to learn a screen reader, it was best to do so on one 
 where the screen reader came built in.
 
 So far, no luck learning how to use the screen reader though.  I can turn 
 on and off.  That's about it.  I have a 40 page list of random commands, 
 and can't figure out what any of the are supposed to do.  A dictionary 
 would help.  Perhaps the lines above or below that don't make sense are 
 supposed to tell me what they do?  
 
 I used to be a web designer, and I thought a screen reader should be easy 
 to learn to use.  After all, I'm good with with computers.  
 
 I'm also horrible with foreign languages, and figured braille would be 
 impossible to learn.  I started the first contracted braille book I'm 
 reading last night.  I started learning braille last November.
 
 I still use a Windows 7 computer at night.  It takes about 15 minutes to 
 turn on, and every scroll of the screen takes forever.  I don't count on 
 it for anything.
 
 On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:11:11 PM UTC-4, Scott Duck wrote:
 Hi,
 As I have said, I am thinking about switching to the Mac and have been 
 trying to gather more information about it.  To that end, I have been 
 asking specific questions.  I will continue to do that but I would like 
 some general feedback from people who have made the switch from Windows to 
 the Mac.  Why did you switch In the first place?  Having switched, do you 
 feel that it was the right choice for you?  Do any of you regret having 
 switched or have you even gone back to the PC?
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Re: garage band and keyboard.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I have my Old but decent M-audio  37 key Oxygen midi keyboard hooked up to my 
Macbook pro via USB when messing around in Garageband.  The M-Audio Axium has 
much more features, and I think there still updating the drivers for that one.

hth

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On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi, as the subject line says, which keyboard so y'all use with garage
 band if any? also, when i get the right one do i just connect it via
 the usb port?
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Identifying formatting characteristics of text with VO

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

To have text attributes read aloud, press VO T.

hth

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On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm doing more work with text in Pages and Numbers now and would like to know 
 how I can identify the format of text. Using JAWS with Office suite, there is 
 a keystroke that gives all the format info you'd ever want about the selected 
 text (insert + F). Is there anything similar on the Mac side? I only know 
 about the setting to announce text attributes  in the verbosity menu (VO Vee).
 I've also got a lot of formatting questions, but I'll parcel them out a few 
 at a time as they come up in my travels.
 Anything you care to share on that topic now would be welcome though.
 
 
 
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Re: Using Google Music Manager

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Hi,

The initial set up is not accessible on the Mac.

That unknown your hearing is the area where they are asking for your gmail 
address and password.  After that part, the manager is accessible.

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On Mar 24, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Mike M blinkin4...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
   I've been doing some research and I finally decided I wanted to try 
 uploading all my iTunes music up to Google using the Music Manager program 
 from the Play Store.
   I know others have made this work but now that I've tried it out I'm 
 wondering if any of them were on the Mac.
   Everything needs to be done in Google Music Manager but when I open it 
 up I only hear Unknown over and over. VO can't read any part of the program.
   Does anyone have any tips or solutions? Thanks and take care!
 
 Mike 
 
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navigating in the latest version of numbers

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Hello,

I know this has been asked in the past, I'm hoping I'm just missing something, 
or there has been some new improvements.  Is there a way in the latest version 
of Numbers for the Mac to jump to a specific cell?  For example, in Excel on 
windows using jaws, you can press control G, to type in the cell coordinates 
say A, 5, hit enter, and focus is brought to that cell.

Thanks.

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Re: navigating in the latest version of numbers

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Hi,

Command J?  That doesn't seem to do anything for me.

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On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:56 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can use command j to jump.
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I know this has been asked in the past, I'm hoping I'm just missing 
 something, or there has been some new improvements.  Is there a way in the 
 latest version of Numbers for the Mac to jump to a specific cell?  For 
 example, in Excel on windows using jaws, you can press control G, to type in 
 the cell coordinates say A, 5, hit enter, and focus is brought to that cell.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: navigating in the latest version of numbers

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

The tab key works fine from going from cell to cell in a linear fashion.  What 
I want to do is skip from for example, cell A, 1, to cell c35 without pressing 
tab like 100 times.

Thanks.

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On Mar 18, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you Tried the tab key?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 VO J doesn't jump from cell to cell. I haven't found a solution to jump from 
 cell to cell with numbers.
 
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Command J?  That doesn't seem to do anything for me.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:56 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can use command j to jump.
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I know this has been asked in the past, I'm hoping I'm just missing 
 something, or there has been some new improvements.  Is there a way in 
 the latest version of Numbers for the Mac to jump to a specific cell?  
 For example, in Excel on windows using jaws, you can press control G, to 
 type in the cell coordinates say A, 5, hit enter, and focus is brought to 
 that cell.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: VlC suddenly pausing itself after the computer going to sleep.

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Hi,

I find it odd that your Mac went to sleep while playing media.  As far as I can 
recall, that shouldn't happen .

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On Mar 15, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 This just suddenly started happening this afternoon after I managed to play 
 around with my bluetooth speaker and managed to get it connected, but now 
 every time my computer goes to sleep, vlc now pauses itself, so I have to 
 constantly bring it out of sleep mode, then unpause it again, which is really 
 frustrating.  I've never had to do this before, even after having to 
 repeatedly play around with my speaker to get it connected after upgrading, 
 so have no idea what brought this on, and would love to know if anyone else 
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Re: The bug for Messaging on the I phone.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

I halfway agree.  But, before we go off banishing those who are stubborn and 
resistant to change, let's remember that blindness is not the only disability 
in play hear.  I know a few who depend on peripheral keyboards because they 
have motor difficulties.  To those people, this is probably a bigger deal to 
them than someone who has no such physical limitations.

Just my 2 cents.

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On Mar 14, 2014, at 4:28 AM, Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Same here. I use the touchscreen nearly full time on both iPhone and iPad 
 mini because I know this is the future of interacting with devices whether we 
 like it or not. I can't be doing with people who are just plain stubborn and 
 hate change. I do use a bluetooth keyboard sometimes, or be it an emulated 
 one on the mac, and I do heavily use MBraille and Fleksy for typing, but 
 again these apps expect you to type on the touchscreen and offers no facility 
 for bluetooth keyboards and or Braille displays. I understand some on here 
 may have issues with my statement but this is reality so if I can be polite 
 here put up or shut up.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 13/03/2014 21:52, David Chittenden wrote:
 People are inherently lazy. I only use my braille keyboard for typing. I do 
 everything on the touchscreen itself. This is because I know everything will 
 eventually go to touchscreens, so I want to be as comfortable with 
 touchscreen as possible. Most people appear to hope that this will not 
 ultimately be the case, even though every trend and all the research 
 indicates it will be, so people keep trying everything they can to keep 
 things at the haptic comfort levels they have known from the past.
 
 The fact is, however, that as of 2011, touchscreen panels have become less 
 expensive to manufacture than static screen panels with separate physical 
 control buttons.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 14 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What's wrong with just touching the phone? I know it's a small bug but in 
 the scheme of things it's surely not a show stopper. Yes Apple needs to 
 know about it but to say it's unacceptable is a little strong methinks.
 
 
 On 13/03/2014, at 4:48 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 A point I myself have made several times here already.  Yesterday, Bill 
 Holton and I verified this issue.  My only suggestion is that we flood 
 Apple with this matter and indicate in blunt absolutely no uncertain terms 
 that this is positively unacceptable.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 The bug for Messaging, I messaging is still on the I phone, you type your 
 contact and you still can't arrow across to type your message unless you 
 touch the I phone some where else. Is this a bug or is there another way 
 of getting to the messaging field where you type the content of the 
 message?
 
 Jonathan is absolutely right about typing with the Focus blue as I 
 haven't been using mine very much but its lovely. The only problem is i 
 can't write true UEB as Apple have strange ways of writing Braille which 
 jonathan explained once in his article. Writing on the Focus blue is 
 better than writing on the Apex!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Another dropbox question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

perform a mouse click on the dropbox extras menu with VO shift space.  A menu 
should appear, press VO left arrow once and you should be on settings.  Press 
VO spacebar on it, and now you can down arrow to preferences.

hth

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On Mar 11, 2014, at 1:02 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am doing that too but nothing is happening. It just keeps going back to the 
 extras menu.
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm calling up the extras menu, then doing a control option spacebar  . Is 
 that how you're doing it?
 Bill
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Funny, I can access the Drop Box menus with out any trouble.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:31 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can try and install the app store version and see if that will work 
 for you. 
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 I was not able to access theDropbox settings from my e xtras menu, so I 
 went
 to check if I have the latest version.  I then noticed the Dropbox app is
 now in the app store.  Do you know if I can install the app store version
 overtop the version I downloaded directly from the site?
 Thanks.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:11 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Another dropbox question
 
 I believe so.  But, you should be able to access that quite easily with 
 the
 latest version of Drop Box.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not sure I spoke correctly.  I want to change the location of my main
 Dropbox folder.  Don't I have to use the Dropbox app or settings to do
 this?
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of isaac
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:58 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Another dropbox question
 
 First unshare the folder then next move the folder like you would move 
 any
 other folder then next reshare the folder.
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 How can I change where my dropbox folder sits?  I want to move it to a
 different drive where I have a lot more space.  Thanks.
 Bill
 
 
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Re: Making the Keyboard visible on an iPhone

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

This is pretty odd.  If there is no bluetooth keyboard in range, the virtual 
keyboard should appear as normal when you double tap on an edit field.

Ricardo Walker
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On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I regularly use the Apple bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone 4S and love it.  
 I should also mention that I am running iOS 7.06.
 
 Since I use the bluetooth keyboard in edit fields it really speeds up data 
 entry.  The problem I am having, however, is getting the keyboard to reappear 
 on the iPhone if I forget to make it visible from the bluetooth keyboard 
 itself.  I recently left home without the bluetooth keyboard and before 
 leaving, I had forgotten to hit the key on the upper right corner of the 
 keyboard to make the iPhone virtual keyboard visible.  How does one get the 
 keyboard on the iPhone back if there isn't a bluetooth keyboard around to let 
 you invoke the command?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Still Some Pretty Severe Bugs in Mavericks

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I haven't seen the sound bug.  I have encountered the Keyboard commander bug 
though.  I find that turning VO on/off will only fix it for a few minutes.  I 
have to restart my Mac for it to go away for a longer stretch of time.  This 
hasn't happened a lot but it's definitely noticeable.

Ricardo Walker
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On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 Curious if anyone else is having this issue. All of the sudden you lose all 
 sounds in Mavericks 10.9.2 meaning when you go to the end box and normally 
 get your error sound like a bonk letting you know you are at the newest 
 message instead of the bonk you get VO just repeating the name of the message 
 instead of the sound. I know this is an error or bug as if I cycle VO off and 
 back on I get the sounds back and it will work for awhile and then stop. Also 
 as soon as I lose the sounds I have also noticed that keyboard commander 
 stops working meaning if I hit command z the key I have set to bring up mail 
 nothing happens, but if I cycle VO off and on keyboard commander again starts 
 to work and command z will bring up my mail.
 
 I am also having a severe lag in typing but only when in mail it is really 
 behind what I am typing and very sluggish. Curious to know if anyone else is 
 experiencing any of this.
 
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Re: Amazon Kendle App versuses Audiblee App

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Why not just download both?  I mean, one is giving you access to ebooks, the 
other audiobooks.  In my opinion, the 2 are worlds apart.



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On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Angus MacKinnon thedog...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thiking of downloading the Amazon Kendle App and/or Audible App on my 
 iPhone 5 S. What is the point. Same owner and books. The Kendle Books can be 
 read by Siri. Which should I download? The Kendle App or Audible App.
 
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