RE: Issues with Venmoe and Voiceover

[Robin Frost]

Hi sarai,

Do report this to them. When I’ve reported things to them in the past they’ve 
been very receptive to fixing things so it couldn’t hurt. Does it behave the 
same on all devices?

I have a different issue on Venmo I have one former Venmo friend who I can’t 
delete for love nor money as the saying goes hahahaha. When I click on them it 
gives me an error as though their profile contains nothing so there’s no remove 
or delete element to be rid of them. So I have to contact them myself. I’ll be 
happy to join you in reporting this issue to them as well.

Take good care,

Robin

 

 

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All :

Someone asked me to do a Venmo transaction for them since they don’t use it.

Looks like with Voice over, iOS 17.2.1, and Venmo version 10.32.07 you cannot 
type in a venmo user in the search field with VO running. Voiceover speaks and 
enters in letters and symbols that you are not typing.

You use to be able to dictate in the search field, but if you try, the 
information is blank in the search field.

Just an FYI.

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Re: Fastmail Issue

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

You can also access the profile via the QR code that appears on the page 
for generating app specific passwords via their web interface and 
settings and integrations tab. Once you select iPhone for device what 
you want it to access specifically and generate password the QR code 
will be on screen and i had no issue pointing my iPhone camera at it and 
grabbing it that way.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/13/2023 6:05 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Andrew,
   The app's interface is a bit funky but I did find the settings 
link. Nothing about  a profile.


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On 10/13/2023 1:07 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
When I installed fastmail app on my iphone, I found a link in the app 
“applications setings and guides” or something similar.  I tapped it 
and started reading through the various instructions and guides. One 
of them was on how to set up fastmail for iphone.  It’s there I found 
the link to download profile, which once installed generated the 
right password for fastmail.


Good luck

Andrew

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 I created the password. How would I do this QR code? Am 
assuming the profile is good to go, right?  The iPad is having the 
same problem.


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On 10/12/2023 6:47 PM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
Did you use the QR code to download the profile and let it set it 
up that way; or did you generate an app specific password as you 
did for your computer?
It seems to prefer the set up using the qr code and profile 
download on the phone. At least that's what's always worked here.

Take good care,
Robin
On 10/12/2023 7:48 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Decided to go with fastmail. Added my new account to Thunderbird 
on Windows, works fine.


Not on the iPhone. the IMAP/SMTP settings are good. But the first 
error was something like "password authentication is not 
supported". Both IMAP and SMTP have my password entered. Is this 
correct? If now, what should I check? Thanks.


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Re: Fastmail Issue

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Did you use the QR code to download the profile and let it set it up 
that way; or did you generate an app specific password as you did for 
your computer?


It seems to prefer the set up using the qr code and profile download on 
the phone. At least that's what's always worked here.


Take good care,

Robin


On 10/12/2023 7:48 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Decided to go with fastmail. Added my new account to Thunderbird on 
Windows, works fine.


   Not on the iPhone. the IMAP/SMTP settings are good. But the first 
error was something like "password authentication is not supported". 
Both IMAP and SMTP have my password entered. Is this correct? If now, 
what should I check? Thanks.


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Re: Email Providers

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

When I left GMail for the bulk of my email activities I went with a paid 
plan from www.fastmail.com. I know some balk at the idea of a paid email 
provider but the advantage is no ads, great support the few times I've 
needed to use it. Like GMail I can set up my rules server side and they 
sync across clients and devices and their web interface while not maybe 
the most intuitive is by and large accessible.


It behaves well whether i"m on a Windows based or apple based device and 
also gets along with groups.io which sometimes iCloud email tends not to do.


I hope that helps.

Take good care,

Robin


On 10/10/2023 5:41 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Other than Gmail, are there any reliable email services? I am 
considering changing Internet providers and if I change, I will need 
to update many accounts currently associated with my Internet 
provider. Thanks.


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Re: help venmo payment

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I sent a payment Monday and it went through. What I'm not certain of is 
if the app has updated between then and now so that might not help your 
situation.
I'm sorry but as of Monday the payment did go through.  What I can't 
make work is under more there's a button to view all of your friends on 
Venmo and

that button will not work for me with VoiceOver.

Take good care,
Robin


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Help!

Someone sent me a Venmo request. I chose pay. Then send and it won’t 
go through. Is it a voiceover thing?


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Re: Bluetooth Speakers

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

And technically speaking they are in fact bluetooth speakers so not sure 
why it'd not be considered a valid answer to the original question.



Take good care.

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On 7/6/2022 1:35 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries wrote:
The Sonos Roam which works on either Bluetooth or WiFi is $189. The 
Sonos Roam SL which does not have A L E X A is $159.

Merv



On Jul 6, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

 I have a power bank with USB charging capabilities, so I would 
imagine the Sonos Portable speaker would charge with that? I’m afraid 
to ask, but how much does that portable speaker cost?


On Jul 6, 2022, at 11:25, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


I would second this. We have one that we use out on the deck, and 
it’s super portable. The only thing I would add is that it does not 
come with any kind of power supply. It only comes with a USB cord. 
So if you want to have a way to charge it other than by connecting 
it to a computer, you’ll need to purchase that separately.

Thanks,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2022, at 9:21 AM, 'Nichole Keck' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


 Well, the Sonos roam is actually very portable.  It probably is 
more than what you’re looking for, but just in point of fact, it is 
portable.  For someone who already uses Sonos in their home, it’s a 
nice complement to devices you already have.  I know this may not 
be the original intent, but I wanted to point it out for others who 
might find this information helpful and are reading this thread.


Nicki,
Sent from my wonderful MacBook Air!
My husband and I have a WhatsApp group to discuss Mac audio 
applications, such as amadeus pro and Audio Highjack. 
 If interested, contact me privately.


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On Jul 6, 2022, at 11:22 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Exactly. I'm not into "smart" speakers. Just a Bluetooth 
speaker that will work with Mac of iPhone/iPad. And is easily 
moved around.


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On 7/6/2022 8:10 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:

I don’t think Sonos uses bluetooth.
Sonos is a wireless sound system, and doesn’t really compare to 
an individual bluetooth speaker.

- Brad -
On Jul 6, 2022, at 09:59, Herbie Allen  
wrote:
Are they plugged into a serge protector? Also, I believe this 
original thread had to do with Bluetooth speakers for the Mac 
which is not the same as a smart speaker experience. Can Sonos 
function as actual Bluetooth speakers?
On Jul 6, 2022, at 09:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Yeah, well, hope yours don’t all blow at the same time.  Let me 
tell you replacing that many involves a hefty price tag.  And I 
will say that when my husband posted our experience to the Sonos 
user list, we very quickly learned that we aren’t the first 
people that that has happened to.

Cheers,
Donna

On Jul 6, 2022, at 7:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via 
MacVisionaries  wrote:


I absolutely love the sound and quality of my Sonos S1 Gen 2 
speakers. We have four pair of them plus a Sonos Beam plus a 
Sonos Roam. Everything works well together. We use a 
combination of Lady A and Hey Sonos to do everything we want to 
do and have been using Sonos for years. We have the apps on our 
iPhones, iPads and windows machines. The only issue I have is 
that the Mac app is not accessible at this time.

Merv


On Jul 6, 2022, at 9:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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HI ET,

I would strongly advise against using Sonos speakers, or at 
least Sonos 1s.  They sound great, but they are hiccuppy with 
Siri - if there’s ever a room that doesn’t play when I tell it 
to, it’s always a room with a Sonos..  Also, about four weeks 
ago, all our four Sonos1s fried at the same time.  I assume we 
had some kind of power surge during the night while we slept, 
but the only place that it was evident was these four 
speakers.  All other appliances were fine, including our Sonos 
Amp and our Sonos Move.  None of our clocks needed to be 
reset, or anything like that. in fact were it not for the 
Sonos, we would never have known the power surge had even 
happened.  None of them was more than two years old.  My 
husband read online about how you can take them apart and 
replace the fuse, so thought he’d give it a try.  When he 
opened up the Sonos, he found that both the fuse and the 
capacitors were fried, as in brown.  It is our feeling that 
there is some kind of design flaw in the Sonos 1s that renders 
them susceptible to this, since none of our other Sonos 
speakers were damaged.  We’re so ticked off that we’ve decided 
to just replace the failed Sonos with the new HomePods when 
they come out.

Cheers,
Donna

On Jul 5, 2022, at 5:20 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,
I'd like to get

Re: Something very interesting I just learned about menus and VoiceOver

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

However, it is sometimes helpful to know what the visual symbols or cues 
are so that if a sighted person you know asks for help you can translate 
things into that which they would interact with and understand. I find 
knowing such helpful and intriguing in that context.


Take good care.

Robin


On 4/4/2022 6:53 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:

This is why I am a believer in teaching VO separat from visuals. This way, you 
learn how VO  interprets things and you don’t have to worry about differences.


On Apr 4, 2022, at 14:45, Steve Matzura  wrote:

My wife, who uses a Mac without VoiceOver because she can, pointed out 
something interesting today. Apparently, VO announces menu access shortcuts in 
a different order than the symbols are presented on the screen. For instance, 
in Mail, for Forward (on the Message menu) VO says Command-Shift-F, while the 
graphic shows the symbol for Shift first, then the pinwheel-like symbol for 
Command, then the F. In the thirteen years I've used VO with MacOS, starting 
with Leopard and then Snow Leopard, I've never known or noticed this. In fact, 
I've never bothered to learn the shapes of the graphic symbols for Shift (which 
I think is an up-pointing arrow), Command (the pinwheel), Option (which I think 
is a wavy line or lines), or Control (which I don't know at all). Would 
appreciate some confirmation and claraification on those. But isn't it 
interesting that VO reads them in a different order, which means it's not 
really reading anything at all--it's just reading the text from a symbols 
dictionary for certain things.


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Re: Problem ending a workout on Apple Watch

[Robin Frost]

Hi Paul,

I know exactly what you are experiencing.  I find that once I flick to 
page 1 exploring around the upper part of the watch screen gets me to 
the pause and end workout area but if I touch the lower part of the 
screen I more times than not run into the music starting and stopping 
stuff with which I do not want to deal. Perhaps that'll help.


Take good care.

Robin


On 10/18/2021 11:26 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
I am running Watch OS 8.0.1 on my Apple Watch SE.

I have problems ending a workout such as Outdoor Walk or Core Exercise. Before 
upgrading to Watch OS 8 when I had finished the workout I used to go to the 
appropriate workout and flick down to get to page 1 and then double tap the end 
button. That resulted in a summary of the workout showing duration, average 
heart rate, calories and so on. I then pressed the done button to get back to 
the watch face.

Since upgrading to Watch OS 8 I can no longer reliably get to the page where I 
can end the workout. Instead flicking down gets to a page about playing the 
next music track which does not work because the watch is not set up to play 
music. Note that I do not want to play any music anywhere during the workout. I 
do not know why the workout now wants to play music.

Any thoughts on why this is happening and what I can do to fix it?

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Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I’m with Mary I haven’t had any major problems with the standard ones that come 
with Apple devices. But I did want to chime in and say that it’s been my 
experience that if you upgrade to the 2 meter or 6ft long version of Apple’s 
lightning cable it does seem to be slightly thicker and thus seems to be 
sturdier than its shorter counterpart.  Perhaps that might be worth 
investigating as it might be more to the liking of those having difficulties.
I know that if one has Apple Care you can get a free standard cable replacement.
Robin


From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:14 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables

I have not noticed this problem on the 5S, a 6s, or an iPad mini. Just three 
devices, but no problems.
Mary



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On May 13, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


  OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.

  Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use lightning cables.  
Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S, a few Apple TV 4's, etc.

  Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it seems like the 
end of the insolation right where the lightning connector is that goes into the 
device, that area seems to keep getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that 
the cable stops working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the 
potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one cable now which 
is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both the insolation and the actual 
wire itself.  It's pretty pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables 
eventually are getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm 
just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.

  Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this issue.  If you 
just Google online, you'll find lots of forums and blogs, etc. of people who've 
had the same issue quite regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.

  Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold right now 
waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can replace a few of these 
chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They might, but I'm not counting on it.

  I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your cables tearing, 
getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis right at the tip of the cord like I 
am.  If so, what are you all doing to get around this, so you don't have to 
keep buying cord after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is 
starting to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with lightning 
connecters.

  Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion based soly 
on what I so far have observed.  Again, that's stated as an opinion, not a 
fact.  Keep that in mind.

  Chris.
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Re: comparing: Openbook vs K1000

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Not sure if this thread has been halted yet so I'll be brief and plead 
ignorance on its closure if it's happened. However, I have used both and 
find each to be comparable in terms of functionality. I can only speak to my 
own experience and in recent years tech support from Openbook has featured 
more blind people providing service and assistance than that of Kurzweil. 
That's not necessarily a detriment but what eventually drove me to OpenBook 
was a problem Kurzweil never could solve for me. Of course this was merely 
one specific situation and that's by no means an indication of how others 
would fare. But as I said for the basic daily functions one might use it for 
I found both programs to be quite on par one with another.

I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Joanne Chua

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 6:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone
Subject: re: OT: comparing: Openbook vs K1000

Hi,

Yes, it will be run on the virtual machine on the Mac as well as on a
window laptop itself.
The reason why I brought up this topic is because i'm rather bias
towards the k1000 has been for years. I just want to get some non-bias
opinion on it.
I think the pearl camera is around $1000US or there about. This is all
going to be funded, and the organization that doing the assessments
favor the openbook/pearl package, which is around $2000US or there
about. Like I said, because i'm bias to k1000, and also somewhat
against Freedom SCientific, i just want some clarification. Thus, I
just want to make sure that i'm not getting something that it is not
useful for me.
Also, there were talks that k1000 will be eventually available for the
MacOS, as far as when and how, is yet to be known.
And lastly, I do put OT = (off topic) on my subject line.

Thanks very much for those who reply off and on list.

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Re: Cleaning IPhone screen, perhaps an obvious question

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I usually use the iKlear moistened wipes for cleaning screens.
What’s the difference you might ask?
to me it’s not only the amount of moisture as these have less and what liquid 
is used dries almost instantly. It’s also tailor made not to conflict with the 
coating others have mentioned. I would think that baby wipes given their 
original intended purpose would have more liquid present on them than other 
sorts of moistened cloths for the stated purpose.
I also only go to them as a last resort if there’s a speck of dirt or something 
I can feel that a dry microfiber cloth doesn’t disperse.
I hope that helps.
Robin


From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Cleaning IPhone screen, perhaps an obvious question

This probably to most of you is gonna seem like a really dumb thing to do, but 
I'm curious, not so much if you all think it's a good idea, as much as how many 
of you all do this same exact thing.  I did this the other night when my mom 
was up in my room, and she just about strangled me, saying how bad of an idea 
it was.  Not sure why though.  I've done this now for so long, and every time, 
it's never caused dammage.

So, here's my question.  How many of you, when your screen gets really dirty 
will actually take a fully moisted babywipe straight from it's container, and 
apply it to the bare screen?  These I'm using are Huggy's non scented, non 
lotion.  They don't have powder, nor allo or anything in them.  So, I can't 
imagine why it would be that bad.  Now, if they did? That would be another 
story.  What do you all think.  Based on the fact they don't have any of that 
stuff, can you see any reason why this would be a dumb move?
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Re: CORRECTION TO: RE: Help with Gmail and storage

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It's also very easy to do this email client side if you operate your 
accounts via imap rather than pop as I've just switched to myself.
I haven't had to visit the web interface except to set up filters very often 
at all since going to the IMAP protocol and I used to have to visit the web 
interface multiple times daily for one thing or another like rescuing 
messages from the spam folder.

I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: CORRECTION TO: RE: Help with Gmail and storage

I inadvertently typed the word "older", in my previous post to this thread,
when I meant to type "newer".

The corrected version follows:

Mark

Hello Brian,

First, let me say that the native Apple mail application works just fine
with gMail in both Yosemite and in the soon-to-be-released El Capitan
operating system.

Second, the reason your gMail account reached its storage limit is because
of the way Google handles message tagging.

There is a lot of information on the web about how Google handles mail, with
regard to labels but the long and short of it is the following:

1.
In order to be considered gMail compatible, a mail client must automatically
move all deleted mail to the Trash folder on the gMail server.  That is to
say, the message must be labeled as Trash.  Both the latest version of Apple
Mail and MS Outlook 2010 and newer do this.

2.
If your mail client does not do this, then you, as the user, must move
unwanted messages to the Trash folder, manually from within the Mail client.
For example, when I use Office Outlook 2007, instead of simply pressing the
Delete key on my keyboard, I tap the Applications Key, then select Move To,
then select Trash.  This only takes about a second longer than just pressing
the delete key but it must be done if I want gMail to behave as expected.

Okay, okay, getting down to the answer to your question:

To reclaim your gMail storage space:

1.
Assuming you're in the United States, go to http:// mail.google.com and log
into your gMail account from your preferred web browser.

2.
Go to the All Mail Folder.

3.
Select all of the messages.

4.
Activate the Move To Trash Button.  Doing this will "move" all of your
messages to the Trash folder.  To be more exact, all of the messages will be
labeled as Trash.

5.
Open the Trash folder.

6.
Empty the Trash folder by clicking the Empty Trash button.

Finally, note that unless you change the default gMail settings, all
messages labeled Trash will automatically be deleted after 30 days.

Good Luck,

Mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 3:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Help with Gmail and storage

Hey all,

After the debacle that was I believe Mavericks and gmail not playing well
together I moved everything to Apple mail. I was able to set my gmail
account to forward everything to my Apple mail and all has been fine since
then until now. I just found out that my gmail account is now completely
full all free 15 gigs.. So my question to those of you who are still using
the gmail website with VoiceOver is how with this new look gmail which by
the way at first glance is awful with VO how do you first delete what is in
your inbox and then how in the world do you permanently delete old trash
mail so it is not taking up space. This new look gmail keeps wanting to tell
me social stuff and show me things from youtube. Very annoying and not very
straight forward. Thanks,

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Re: mail problem

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Sadly I suspected they’d make it an all or nothing proposition. thanks for the 
confirmation though as I never like to assume.
Robin


From: Deb Lewis 
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 4:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: mail problem

Yes, with comcast it’s one or the other. You can’t mix them. You make a request 
through a form to have your email changed to Imap. I think this is totally 
stupid, but that’s how they do it. 


  On Dec 28, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:

  Hi,
  Perhaps I wasn’t clear in my post I’ll try again.
  I understand fully the process of switching an account on one’s own device.
  What I was asking was this:
  Once enabling imap with comcast themselves can you then only access your 
account via that protocol or can you choose between them without comcast 
needing to make any further changes on their end. I.E. from comcast’s 
perspective is it all or nothing I.E. pick imap and that’s it or does this 
registration merely enable you to use imap should you wish while still 
maintaining pop access on another device?
  Is that better?
  Robin


  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 10:32 PM
  To: Mac Visionaries List 
  Subject: Re: mail problem

  IF you want to move from pop to imap or imap to pop, you must completely turn 
off and delete the one before switching to the other.  You are given the choice 
only upon setting up the new account.  For example, say you want to switch from 
pop to imap, as I did.  First, turn off the pop account.  Next, completely 
delete it from your Mac.  Now, set up a brand new account and set it for imap. 
it is not possible to switch an account from one account type to another. 


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray


  Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my Mac,
  the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,
Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop 
or can you choose between them after instituting this change?
Robin


From: Deb Lewis 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: mail problem

I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, 
can’t just do it. 

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

  I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are 
offering lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them to 
you if you want.


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly barefooted Ray,


  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my iPhone,
  the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:


I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped 
using their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks 
like you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in 
case anyone else needs to do this. 

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr  
wrote:

  Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone 
and Mac from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my 
mail in both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago. 


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray


  Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my Mac,
  the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan  
wrote:

Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If 
your iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
isn’t available for your Mac to get. 

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Mobile: 814-431-0962
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wrote:

  Hi all,
  I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on 
my iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
something wrong?
  Becky 

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Re: mail problem

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Perhaps I wasn’t clear in my post I’ll try again.
I understand fully the process of switching an account on one’s own device.
What I was asking was this:
Once enabling imap with comcast themselves can you then only access your 
account via that protocol or can you choose between them without comcast 
needing to make any further changes on their end. I.E. from comcast’s 
perspective is it all or nothing I.E. pick imap and that’s it or does this 
registration merely enable you to use imap should you wish while still 
maintaining pop access on another device?
Is that better?
Robin


From: Ray Foret Jr 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 10:32 PM
To: Mac Visionaries List 
Subject: Re: mail problem

IF you want to move from pop to imap or imap to pop, you must completely turn 
off and delete the one before switching to the other.  You are given the choice 
only upon setting up the new account.  For example, say you want to switch from 
pop to imap, as I did.  First, turn off the pop account.  Next, completely 
delete it from your Mac.  Now, set up a brand new account and set it for imap. 
it is not possible to switch an account from one account type to another. 


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray


Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

  Hi,
  Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop or 
can you choose between them after instituting this change?
  Robin


  From: Deb Lewis 
  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: mail problem

  I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, can’t 
just do it. 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are 
offering lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them to 
you if you want.


Sincerely,
The Constantly barefooted Ray,


Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my iPhone,
the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:


  I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped 
using their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks 
like you have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in 
case anyone else needs to do this. 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr  
wrote:

Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and 
Mac from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail in 
both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago. 


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray


Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:

  Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If 
your iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it 
isn’t available for your Mac to get. 

  — 
  Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
  Phone: 814-860-3194 
  Mobile: 814-431-0962
  Email: bu...@brannan.name




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wrote:

Hi all,
I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on 
my iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing 
something wrong?
Becky 

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Re: mail problem

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Hi,
Once you make this switch does that mean you can only use imap and not pop or 
can you choose between them after instituting this change?
Robin


From: Deb Lewis 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: mail problem

I found it. Just was annoyed that you have to register for it and wait, can’t 
just do it. 

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

  I don't know why Comcast does not make it more evident that they are offering 
lineup parameters. I could look up the part numbers and send them to you if you 
want.


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly barefooted Ray,


  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my iPhone,
  the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:


I didn’t know comcast is now offering Imap. This is useful. I stopped using 
their email when I got more devices bedew of the Pop3 problems. Looks like you 
have to request the change, it’s not just there to do for yourself in case 
anyone else needs to do this. 

  On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

  Very same point I was gonna make.  ever since I switched my iPhone and 
Mac from using Comcast's Pop3 protocall to using the Imap protocall, my mail in 
both has behaved much better.  Should have done this years ago. 


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray


  Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my Mac,
  the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:

Do you have both iPhone and Mac set up with your Email as IMAP? If your 
iPhone is set up as POP3, it will download and delete your Email, so it isn’t 
available for your Mac to get. 

— 
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Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: bu...@brannan.name




  On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:49 AM, becky sabo  wrote:

  Hi all,
  I am not getting all my mail.  I have  lot of email showing up on my 
iPhone but some reason it is not showing up on my mack .  Am I doing something 
wrong?
  Becky 

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Re: searching in iBird [was Re: iBird]

[Robin Frost]

Hey Esther
thank you for the thorough lessons which you share so generously. You don't get 
paid enough for this job (smile).
In your time with this app have you figured out how one easily adds a bird to 
favorites?
thanks so much for all your sharing on this list.
Robin



From: Esther 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: searching in iBird [was Re: iBird]


Hi Gigi and Christine, 


There's an extensive set of help instructions under the "help" button, but I'll 
try to summarize. The search button (second button of five on the bottom of the 
screen) brings you to a screen with different search categories as well as a 
search field where you can type in criteria. As you add criteria and move back 
to the search page, you're told how many birds match your criteria, and then 
you can either continue to set search criteria until you double tap the "View" 
button in the top right corner, or decide to start an entirely new search by 
double tapping the "Reset" button in the top left corner.


Here's an example.  Double tap the "search" button. The search categories are 
grouped under headings "Basic Group", "Song", "Body Related", "Flight Related", 
"Pattern Related", "Head Related", and "Miscellaneous".  So let's say I wanted 
to search for birds that are observed in Texas during May, according to a 
particular song pattern.  Under the "Basic Group" heading there's an option for 
"Observed State/Month". Double tap this, and on the State/Month page, first set 
the state to "Texas" using the picker item on the top half of the screen.  Then 
flick down to select the month of "May" by double tapping to check this box.  
Once you set this combination, the heading at the top of the screen will change 
to "State/Month" (424).  The button at the top right is "Clear All" to reset 
your choices on this screen, and at the top left is "Search, back button" to 
return to the main search screen, which will now announce "424 birds matched" 
for the heading at the top of the page. For this page, the "Reset" button is at 
the top left, and the "View" button is at the top right.  


Now, let's add a search by "Song Pattern", which is one of the two categories 
under the "Song" heading search category on the main search page.  The options 
are "Falling", "Flat", "Rising", and "Sing-song".  Each time you double tap a 
category, you'll get examples of this pattern as well as checking the button, 
which you can uncheck either by double tapping the category again, or by 
flicking to the button and double tapping. Each specific search screen lets you 
clear all search criteria with a "Clear All" button in the top right, and 
return to the main search screen with a "Search, back button" in the top left. 
In addition, once you return to the search field, the number of matched birds 
in the heading at the top of the page gets changed, and the entry under the 
search category gets amended.  (For the "Observed State/Month" category this is 
only the number of birds, since you could have selected multiple months).  So 
let's say I choose "Sing-song" for the song pattern and return to the search 
page.  There are still 95 birds.  I select "Song" under the "Song" heading 
search category, and double tap "Quack-quacking". (I'm not going to list the 
song types on this screen -- this is a really long list). Again, this 
demonstrates the song and also checks the button, and if I want to uncheck it I 
flick right and double tap or just double tap the category again.  As before, I 
can use the "Clear All" button at the top right or the "Search, back button" at 
the top left to return to the main search screen.  You can check multiple 
categories, before returning to the main search screen, but I'll just choose 
one.  I now have 4 birds matched that are observed in Texas in May, with a 
"Quack-Quacking" song and a "Sing-song" song pattern.  Each of these selections 
is noted as I flick through the relevant search categories.


To view the matched selections, double tap the "View" button at the top right.  
I get entries for "Gray Catbird", "Northern Mockingbird", "Northern Shoveler", 
and "Reddish Egret", with brief descriptions.  To actually play the song and 
get detailed information, double tap on a selection, then double tap the 
"Speaker small" button in the bottom left corner.  There are multiple sample 
tracks for this bird, and also a list of similar sounding bird calls.


If you want to just type in a search entry to add in the search field on the 
main search page, just double tap the "Search" button in the bottom right 
corner of the virtual keyboard to add it.  The problem is knowing what 
categories to use.  If I type in "red", the matched entries go down to 1 bird 
(the "Reddish Egret".  To remove my typed search keyword I have to flick to the 
"clear text" button in the search box and double tap to remove it.


Hope this helps.  I learned on one of the free, lite versions for iBird tha