RE: lousy web page
Hi Jim, I just took a look and I'm having the same problem. It's not just a Safari or VO issue either because I'm having the same problem with Internet Explorer 10 and JAWS 15. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Gatteys Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: lousy web page Hi Andrew! Well there probably was only one page for the bakery. Thanks for taking a look at it. I have been able, sometimes, to route the mouse to the image and have it read the text in its entirety. The text is expanded for sighted users and I can't figure out what they have done to make it abbreviated when voiceover reads it. Thanks again, Jim On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:31 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote: Hi Jim, I've just visited the page of your supermarket. I'm afraid you are right: I was able to choose the department but thereafter things get complicated. I too can read only a part of the text label for an item. I wonder whether the labels are also truncated for a sighted user who probably has an advantage over you because they can see the image of the product. I had trouble selecting further pages unless of course it was because there was no more than one page of products. I visited bakery department. I tried to set Safari to imitate a different browser under develop menu but that did not seem to improve matters. I have no more suggestions. Andrew On 10 Apr 2014, at 08:03, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I am trying to use my supermarket's web page to read the current weekly ad specials. Just wondered if somebody would take a look at this page to see if you have any ideas. Just general feedback would be good as well. I think its a pretty poorly designed web page and I've talked to the store several times with no success. I can find popup buttons with the departments listed such as dairy, produce and the like but once there there is an image and truncated text info. Sometimes if I mouse over the information I can get it to read a better description. This is not always reliable. Any ideas would be very helpful. Jim http://www.marketstreetunited.com/RS/WEEKLYAD#STOREID=135storeid=135 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Spell Check On The Mac
Hi Everyone, How does spell check work on the Mac? In IOS, you have to read through the document, looking for misspelled words, and bring up the suggestion list one misspelled word at a time. I find this rather cumbersome. Is it better on the Mac? With Windows, In Word or Outlook, I can press F7 and spell check the entire document and the suggestion list comes up automatically for each misspelled word. Does the Mac offer something similar? Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Experience Switching to Mac
Hi, As I have said, I am thinking about switching to the Mac and have been trying to gather more information about it. To that end, I have been asking specific questions. I will continue to do that but I would like some general feedback from people who have made the switch from Windows to the Mac. Why did you switch In the first place? Having switched, do you feel that it was the right choice for you? Do any of you regret having switched or have you even gone back to the PC? Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Exchanging Documents Between Mac and PC
Hi Everyone, How well does it work out for a Mac user and a PC user to exchange documents? I assume that Pages and Numbers documents would have to be exported/imported to Word and Excel. When one does this, how well is formatting retained? Recently, someone on this list mentioned that this can be a problem. I have heard this said a couple times on various podcasts too. I would like to hear from those who have some experience with this. Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Numbers on the Mac
Hi Everyone, I gather that word processing is very accessible on the Mac. How about spreadsheets? How well does Numbers work with Voiceover? Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: How to adjust web URL detected
Hi, In IOS, in the vo settings, there is a on off switch for pitch change. Not sure if the Mac has something similar. Thanks, Scott Duck From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 1:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to adjust web URL detected I thought there was in voiceover utility under speech or something. Or announcements. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. There isn't a way to turn this feature off, I wish we had a way of turning off pitch change. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Brian Unitt bcun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, When I am reading an e-mail and encounter a web link, a voice like a chipmunk says web URL detected I can't find anything in the VoiceOver utility that seems to control this. The message itself disrupts the reading and I would like to turn it off altogether, but failing that, I would like to at least adjust the pitch so it is not so annoying. Thanks for any help, Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Productivity Software on the Mac
Hi Everyone, OK, so far, so good. It sounds like OSX is about as stable as IOS, which is what I had hoped. My next question regarding the Mac involves productivity. How well does VoiceOver do with word processing and spreadsheets? It is my understanding that Text Edit is very accessible. Is this correct? What about Pages? Spell check is very cumbersome on IOS if you are working with a large document. I assume that spell check is better on the Mac. Is it? I am also very interested in Numbers. I do a lot of work with spreadsheets. Numbers for IOS is better than it used to be but, in terms of using it with VoiceOver, it's still rather cumbersome and not all that great if you have much work to do. Is Numbers for the Mac better? Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Simulating a Mac on a PC
Hi, Is there a relatively easy way to run OSX in a virtual environment on a PC? I know that, doing it that way, I wouldn't get the stability of a Mac but it would give me a taste of using one. And, by relatively easy, I don't mean in 246 easy steps. LOL Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Simulating a Mac on a PC
Hi Chris, You very well may be correct and it may be illegal any way that you do it, if it is even possible. However, just so there is no confusion, I wasn't talking about pirating it. I assume that, if I were to purchase a copy of OSX, I could legally install it on anything that I like, just as one can install Windows on a Mac if they own the copy of Windows that they are installing. However, it may not even be possible to purchase OSX without a Mac. Probably isn't, now that I think about it, as I don't think that they sell it on CD any more. Anyway, just didn't want you to think that I was trying to do something that I shouldn't. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Apple boy Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Simulating a Mac on a PC I'm sure this is actually illegal under the Apple License terms for Mac Os X but someone can prove me wrong if they like. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 02/04/2014 16:17, Scott Duck wrote: Hi, Is there a relatively easy way to run OSX in a virtual environment on a PC? I know that, doing it that way, I wouldn't get the stability of a Mac but it would give me a taste of using one. And, by relatively easy, I don't mean in 246 easy steps. LOL Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
New to the List
Hi everyone, I just joined the list. I do not have a Mac. I have been a JAWS user for about 17 years. I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS and Windows in general. I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put down that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would be getting into. I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver. I have a iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs. I have been very impressed with the performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac. As I do not have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you Mac users but please bear with me. I have a feeling that, eventually, I will be a Mac user too. Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Stability of the Mac
Hi Everyone, As I said previously, I am thinking about getting a Mac and the main reason is that I am tired of the increasing instability of the PC environment. My first question is, is this really different on a Mac? I am using JAWS 15 with Windows 8. Both are not all that stable. I have been a JAWS user for 17 years and I have noticed a definite progressive increase in instability with the last few releases. JAWS crashes frequently and, even if it doesn't crash, it often stops talking when errors occur with other applications. Then, there's Windows 8. I don't mind the Windows 8 interface but several times per week, I will have a problem that requires me to restart my computer. I did not have that nearly as much with Windows 7. Also, it isn't unusual for me to install a program which will, either directly or through add ins, make Windows and/or JAWS more unstable. I then have to decide rather the additional functionality is worth the increased instability. I'm just tired of all the crashes and reboots and having to use three or four screen readers because I have to run one when another one crashes. By contrast, my iPhone and iPad, while not perfect, are certainly more stable. VoiceOver seldom just stops working. Of course, every single app is not accessible and they do not all work correctly but any problems with an app are almost always confined only to that app. When an app crashes, it usually does not also cause VoiceOver or the device to crash. Is this also true of the Mac? I have certainly used technology enough to know that none of it is perfect. However, I would like something that is better than the PC, when it comes to stability. Over all, in your experience, is the Mac more stable? Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
