Re: Logos Bible Software Accessibility Status

[Vinny Pedulla]

It all depends…
They have starter packages that are free and you can spend as much as you like 
into the thousands :-)


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> On May 27, 2021, at 8:27 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> How much does Logos cost?
> 
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> 
> Hey Brian,
> I have been using Logos for years now. I find that it’s very accessible on 
> iOS. In fact I’m on the beta team and get most builds. It works with the 
> braille display and it even works with Hebrew and Greek. It’s actually very 
> usable. As for Mac and windows, it’s not very usable there. So if you don’t 
> want to use it on your iOS device, then you probably won’t benefit as much. 
> They also have a web portal that you can access your resources on, but I find 
> iOS to be the most practical. Hope this helps,
> 
> Vinny
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>> On May 26, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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>> Good morning everyone,
>> Wanted to check the accessibility status of Logos bible software. The 
>> last time I checked into it, it was still not accessible, but wanted 
>> to Check again. Thanks everyone, Brian
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Logos Bible Software Accessibility Status

[Vinny Pedulla]

Hey Brian,
I have been using Logos for years now. I find that it’s very accessible on iOS. 
In fact I’m on the beta team and get most builds. It works with the braille 
display and it even works with Hebrew and Greek. It’s actually very usable. As 
for Mac and windows, it’s not very usable there. So if you don’t want to use it 
on your iOS device, then you probably won’t benefit as much. They also have a 
web portal that you can access your resources on, but I find iOS to be the most 
practical. Hope this helps,

Vinny
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> On May 26, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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> Good morning everyone,
> Wanted to check the accessibility status of Logos bible software. The last 
> time I checked into it, it was still not accessible, but wanted to Check 
> again. Thanks everyone,
> Brian
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> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: When Safari gives you a password, how do you put it in the websites?

[Vinny Pedulla]

Also pressing command shift a while you are on the user name field will 
automatically enter the username and password, if it is available. Another 
method is to arrow down, while you’re in one of the fields and the suggested 
passwords will also appear. and pressing return will except the choice.
Hope that helps,


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> On Dec 19, 2020, at 7:22 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
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> There's a button on screen that VoiceOver reads as "Password." If you press 
> that button, a window will open with suggestions. Move to the one you want 
> and press RETURN to use it.
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2020 4:51 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hello. I have just started using the method where when you do signing to an 
>> account or make a new account Safari is filling in the password for you by 
>> giving you a strong password.
>> 
>> So when you do go back into the website, how do you get the Safari to put in 
>> the password for you or does that happen automatically?
>> 
>> Thank you very much. I have been dictating this message using Siri so I 
>> apologise if there is anything wrong with it.
>> 
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Re: karabeaner help

[Vinny Pedulla]

Hi Jonathan,
I actually just figured this out…
If you remap the caps lock key to the scroll lock he using karabearner, you 
could then use Sharpkeys in the VM to remap the scroll lock back to the caps 
lock key. This should pass the key through to the screen reader.
Hope that helps,

Vinny
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> On May 10, 2017, at 8:20 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Yes, but using the caps lock as a Screen Reader modifier with VM Fusion has 
> consistently been a problem. Even when I use an external Windows keyboard  
> exclusively for my my VM's I have not been able to find a way to fully pass 
> the caps lock through to the VM. The caps lock state gets transferred no 
> problem, but the ability for the Screen Reader to notice that the caps lock 
> is down at the same time as another key has been missing. 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2017, at 12:05 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>   VMware Fusion supports key remapping.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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>>> On 5/9/2017 8:51 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> Do you have a program called Sharp Keys?  I think you need a program
>>> like this to remap keys.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 9, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Jessica Dail >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 I’m trying to make my caplock key into an insert key, for use with
 NVDA, under VMWare fusion.
 
 Can anyone help?
 
 What code do I enter?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Logos Bible Software

[Vinny Pedulla]

I actually have been using the Logos app on iOS for the last couple years. It 
is very usable and I can also read both Greek and Hebrew  Braille on my braille 
display. 
There are times where you have to actually use your finger to get to different 
parts of the screen, however, it is still very accessible and you can read all 
of your text. 
I also have found that using vertical navigation helps at times.

HTH,
Vinny
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> On Feb 18, 2017, at 1:34 PM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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> Great, thanks mike. How does the logos app work? I tried to read books using 
> android app and that didn't work so well on my tablet, was just curious to 
> see how the iPhone app worked
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> There is another way to read logos content. Go to http://biblia.com
>> The mobile version of the site works much better with screen readers, so as 
>> soon as you get to the site, click about biblia and then choose to switch to 
>> the mobile view. At this point, sign in with your email address and 
>> password. You should then be able to access your content.
>>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 6:49 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I saw that logos bible software has a basic free version.  I tried 
>>> downloading to check accessibility progress, but sadly, it is still 
>>> inaccessible.  What a shame.  Just thought I would update the accessibility 
>>> status.  Voiceover just kept saying “window”  Thanks,
>>> Brian
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Re: Cannot find an accessible bible library. Need help!

[Vinny Pedulla]

Good afternoon everyone,
Actually you have two choices currently:
The first choice is using logos. You can access all your logos books online or 
use the iOS apps. They are accessible and even support braille in Hebrew and 
Greek.
The second choice you have is to contact Optasia  ministry at 
http://optasiaministry.org/
and speak to Tom Vos. He distributes a textbased library of resources that you 
can load onto any computer or portable note taker. He's constantly upgrading 
all the resources and has a very vast library that he can send out on a DVD for 
you to load onto whatever platform you choose.
Hope this helps,

Vinny
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Thanks,
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> On Apr 18, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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> Chuck,
> Can you give a little more info on accordance?  I know Logos bible software 
> used to be accessible, but from what I have been told, it is not now.  I am 
> working on my master’s in music and worship now and have to take some bible 
> courses, it would be nice to have access to logos or something like it like 
> accordance?  Thanks Chuck,
> Brian
>> On Apr 18, 2016, at 11:03 AM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Percy & all,
>> 
>> 
>> Contact Helen Brown 
>> 
>> and ask her whats the status with accordance on the  mac using VoiceOver?
>> I also encourage all those on the list to do the same as she might think I'm 
>> the only one out here that would like to use accordance again! ;)
>> Last time we spoke she said VoiceOver  was on the radar and coming soon. :)
>> HTH
>> Chuck
>> 
>> CHUCK REICHEL
>> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com
>> 954-742-0019
>> Isaiah 26 : 3
>>  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
>> he trusteth in thee.
>> 
>> In GOD I Trust
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Percy Garrett wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I have downloaded biple pro, desktop bible and 
>>> accordance to my Mac. The desktop bible has limited accessibility and the 
>>> others seem to allow no accessibility. There are tons of unlabled and 
>>> nonresponsive buttons. Any good suggestion will be appreciated. I am trying 
>>> to leave the windows based computers and go all of the way with the Mac, 
>>> but locating an accessible bible library is prohibiting my progress.
>>> Percy Garrett
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: David Griffith
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 4:20 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Problem with Logging On after Update.
>>>  
>>> I hope that my earlier email came through explaining in detail what I found 
>>> and the eventual solution.
>>> In brief you have to treat the user group element on the logon as a 
>>> unannounced button on the logon screen.
>>> 
>>> The problem was caused by a login required after a maintnance update which 
>>> required a restart.
>>> I have never before encountered this screen before when I have agreed any  
>>> OS maintenance update. Normally after an update the Mac restarts into the 
>>> updated OS without any intervention on my part.
>>> 
>>> . On this latest update though the update stalls and will not complete 
>>> unless you start Voiceover manually and log in using the instructions I 
>>> posted earlier.
>>> Now the update has completed hopefully this problem will disappear.
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
 On 17/04/2016 21:32, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 I have the latest update on my I Mac and Mac Mini and I have never seen 
 the screen that David has referred to.  However, if a login screen did 
 come up, I have it set like my work windows machine, where I put in my 
 name and password.  Other than that, if I don’t do that, then it would 
 automatically log me in.  I’m sure you can set your login in preferences 
 if you go to usernames and accounts can’t you?
  
 As stated before, I haven’t encountered many bugs as I did a clean install 
 before I put Elcap on both machines.
  
 Kawal.
> On 17 Apr 2016, at 17:35, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>  
> David,
> 
> Just to be clear, the only options available are Password, Shutdown, 
> reboot?
> 
> What does VO-F1 say for this screen.
> 
> What happens if you type escape.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Apr 2016, at 11:47, David Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> dthanks - I was not  clear enough in my explanation of the issue.
>> This problem suddenly appeared after a normal maintenance  update today, 
>> not a install of any kind.
>> In addition my User account is identical to my apple ID so there should 
>> not be any issue there.
>> However on this new logon screen, which has appeared in defiance of my 
>> system settings not to require a log on,  and which has never appeared 

Re: Logos Bible Software

[Vinny Pedulla]

Hi Amelio,
Unfortunately Logos is not accessible on the Mac. However, it does work pretty 
well on iOS. It is very usable and you can even use a refreshable braille 
display to read both Greek and English text.
HTH,
Vinny

 On Mar 29, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Emilio Hernandez emilio.s.hernan...@gmail.com 
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 Hello everyone,
 
 Has anyone downloaded Logos, a Bible software program for the Macintosh?
 If so, has anyone found it to be voiceover accessible?
 
 Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
 
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Re: Is Winclone 4 usable with Vo?

[Vinny Pedulla]

Good morning Graham,
Yes the program is usable, however there are some few workarounds that you need 
to get in place. The real issue I had in the past was selecting The target 
volume in the scroll area. Sometimes I needed sighted assistance. I think now 
with Yosemite it does a better job with the area and you can interact with the 
area and you're able to select the drive.

HTH,
Vinny
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 On Jan 26, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Graham Roby grahamnr...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have just bought a new MacBook Pro. I have ccc and a Time Capsule so 
 porting the Mac HD hopefully shouldn't be a problem.
 I have just read that if you use a program called Winclone you can copy your 
 Bootcamp partition.
 I just wonder if anyone has used it with VO and found it usable before I 
 purchase?
 
 Kind regards
 
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Re: Logos progrm on Mac or iPad

[Vinny Pedulla]

   Hi Mike and Helena,
I just tried Logos 5 on my iPad and it's slightly more accessible than the 
iPhone app. Both let you read the text of each book. It's just a little 
tricky bringing up the resource area. Once you are on it though, you can do 
a two finger swipe down and VO will read each page and scroll to the next 
page.
The difference with the iPad app is that the screen layout is more 
accessible. VO speaks more items and doesn't loose focus as much as the 
iPhone app does.
As for the Mac app, so far it's not as accessible. You can bring up a book 
and have the program read back to you, however, VO cannot access the text.

I also have it running on Windows 7 with a little more success.
Right now your best bet is either the website biblia.com or running the iOS 
apps. You can access all your books and read them either with speech or a 
braille display. You can even do searches and bring up bible passages. I am 
working with the developers at Logos to make all their apps accessible. The 
iOS apps were made accessible recently and I have been talking to the 
Windows programmer to make it more accessible as well. The last area we need 
to push them on is the Mac. I did send them Apple's guidelines and gave them 
feedback as to what needed to be fixed.
It might be helpful if we continue to email them about getting the Mac 
version accessible. Currently the main issue is just like Accordance: most 
things work accept reading the actual text.
Feel free to write me off list for some work arounds and the contacts at 
Logos.

Vinny
PS If you need access to bibles and resources, contact Optasia Ministry
http://www.optasiaministry.org
They provide simple text files that can be viewed on both Mac and Windows as 
well as all the braille notetakers.


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: Logos progrm on Mac or iPad


Last I checked, these programs were not very accessible, but there is a 
work around. If you go to http://biblia.com you can log in with 
your email address and password and read your purchased books in your web 
browser. If you do this on a desktop computer, choose the option to switch 
to mobile view. This will disable the automatic scrolling which will make 
each section easier to read.

Original message:
Hi, all! Does anyone know if the logos bible program is accessible with 
VoiceOver either on the Mac or the iPad? I could use this program, or at 
least something like it for Bible-studies and such things, cause I'm 
going to a Bible college. I have three bible programs on my computer, and 
none of them work; the accordance program is completely inaccessible; you 
can do everything with it except get VoiceOver to read the Bible (Sheesh, 
what else is a Bible program for if you can't actually read the Bible on 
the darned thing), and my River Bible program doesn't work at all, and 
neither does MacSword, at least not with Mavericks.  (It just barely 
worked the last time, never mind now; it won't even launch, and with the 
river Bible, it just keeps crashing and saying that there's a problem 
report). I really need something that'll work soon, so if someone can 
tell me what to do, that'l be awesome. I'm leaving for a Mission Exposure 
trip in January, and if my computer won't work, I pretty much won't be 
able to take my Bible with me, except the ones on my iPhone, but the 
iPhone ones go crazy after awhile when I have no service; either that or 
they work so slowly it takes forever to find one passage. Does anyone 
have an iPad they'd like to get rid of? I'd want it to be in decent shape 
obviously, but I'd be willing to pay a decent price for it, and if all 
the cases and what-not could come with it too, that'd be all the more 
awesome, and my professor promised to bring his iPad to school and he has 
logos on it, so hopefully we'll be able to find out if it works with 
VoiceOver, which I don't think it did on my phone. Sorry, but I'm kind of 
desperate, cause my braille Bible's huge, and you'd pretty much need a 
van or a decent sized car to carry it alone, never mind me and my other 
stuff and the rest of our group, so I can't take it along on the mission 
exposure trip.

Thanks!



God Bless!!!
Helena


May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy 
because of you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give 
you His peace.

(Numbers 6;24)



In Jesus' Name.
Amen



Helena Fehr
helena.torch.li...@gmail.com





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Re: winclone for bootcamp back-up

[Vinny Pedulla]

I used to use when clone when it was open source as well, but unfortunately the 
new version at least the pro one is not as accessible as it used to be. You 
will need sighted assistance to select the drive you want to clone. It's a 
shame because the old open-source version was totally accessible and was very 
usable to backup Windows partitions.
Hope this helps
Vinny

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On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Oriol Gómez ogomez@gmail.com wrote:

 I used winclone back when it was open source and it was certainly 100%
 accessible.
 Greetings
 
 On 8/19/13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anybody used this app? It costs 30 bucks and is recommended by MacWorld
 if you use a bootcamp partition. Back up, move to a different Mac etc. Since
 it is 30 bucks, I was wondering if it is VO-friendly.
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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Re: Accessible Mac Bible App

[Vinny Pedulla]

Hi Gavin,
The best Bible option we have currently is a Bible ministry that offers 
different Bible versions as electronic text. You can contact them at 
http://www.optasiaministry.org
Tom is a pastor and his visually impaired as well. He will send you a DVD with 
all text files that you can load on either platform Mac or PC as well as all 
the common notetakers. 
Hope this helps,
Vinny

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On May 9, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Gavin Grundlingh g.batw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone know if there are any accessible bible apps for the Mac that have 
 offline versions of the entire bible? I'd like to use my computer in church 
 and follow along with everyone else. I've just downloaded Bible Plus from the 
 app store, but the scroll area containing the contents of what I want to read 
 is always reported as being empty, and I can't copy text from it, nor can I 
 print. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 Gavin
 
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Re: motu digital purformer??

[Vinny Pedulla]

Hi Trahern,
Yes back in the OS 9 days I did use DP, but currently  I believe that it is not 
accessible.  Both Slau and I contacted MOTU and didn't get very far. I don't 
know if they have made some changes, but if you hear anything new, please let 
us know.
Thanks,
Vinny 
 

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On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:55 PM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 hey all motu's digital purformer is multy track recording software for
 mac much like pro tools ive herd it use to to be accsessabel in mac
 os9 but is it accsessabel in the latest verssion of mac osx??
 
 your help with this question would be most welcome!!!
 
 kind regards trahern.
 
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New Logic Accessibility Group

[Vinny Pedulla]

Hi folks,
For those of you who are using Logic or interested in discussing its current 
state of accessibility, I started a Google Group to explore these areas.
If you are interested in joining the information is as follows:
* Group name: Logic Accessibility
* Group home page: http://groups.google.com/group/logic-accessibility
* Group email address logic-accessibil...@googlegroups.com
Hope to see you on the list,
Vinny

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Re: Papa Sangre: Anyone Finish This Game, and What Do You Think?

[Vinny Pedulla]

I finished it as well a few nights ago and really enjoyed it. One question: 
is the ending a little strange? Without spoiling it for everyone, do both 
doors give the same outcome? That was the only part of the game that left me 
wondering, but I may be missing something visual. Need to get sided 
assistance at that point...

Vinny
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Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Papa Sangre: Anyone Finish This Game, and What Do You Think?


I finally finished it two nights ago.  Personally loved it and can see
myself playing it more.  I hope they do more games like it and can't
wait to see more from these developers.  Now I'm on the hunt for more
like it and the soul trapper type games.  I haven't been lucky so far,
though.

Caitlyn


On 12/01/2011 1:09 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Hi, all,

Personally, I loved the game; one of the best I've ever played on any 
platform. I still play the levels I like most, or try and see how much I 
can play nonstop when I'm on the bus. BTW, for those who don't know, this 
is a game for IOS4 on the mobile devices.


Thanks,
Teresa



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