Re: Book "Mastering the Mac"

[jaan ali]

Hi, can you also send me the book my apple id is jaan@icloud.com
Thanks

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Petrus Tuerlings 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 3:47:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Book "Mastering the Mac"

Hopefully it’ll work as I wasn’t going to comment until you brought it up, but 
you tried sending it to me back in January and it didn’t work. I was hoping it 
was something I did wrong. And it would work for the others.

On 23/08/2019, at 1:09 AM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Well like I stated to a previous requester,

Send me your iTunes / apple id email and I'll send it / share it with you,

However this may not be working now that the book is not available in the book 
library.

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From: 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2019 11:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Book "Mastering the Mac"



How can I get this book?

Kristeen
On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:18 PM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Dave,

I did
I'll get that on it's way later today.

Cheers.


Simon

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2019 4:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Book "Mastering the Mac"

Simon,
Not sure if you got my reply, but the Apple ID is 
dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net Please let me know 
where I can find the book once you’ve sent it over. Thanks again.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer



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Re: Few questions regarding my Mac laptop

[jaan ali]

Hi Terry, yes you can connect your external hard drive to the mack, for your 
other questions, I suggest you to visit an Apple store and attend the 
accessibility or Mac basic session on Mack,
once you get the foundation of how to use the Mac then you can visit 
applevis.com and follow the guides and podcast from there
Hope this helps

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Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 3:08:25 PM
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Subject: Few questions regarding my Mac laptop

Hello everyone,


I have had my Mac laptop for a while now. It is something I really want
to learn how to use. But I seem to be struggling with it.


First of all, can I connect my 2 external hard drives to the mac?

They are currently connected to my windows laptop, and so I wasn't sure
if they could be connected to the Mac.


Also, a while back, I asked about Zoom Text for the Mac, and possibly
using the Mac's magnification. My boyfriend is visually impaired, and
has some useable vision.


We tried the command that was recommended. But this just seemed to turn
on and off the bacllight for the keyboard. So I don't know if we did
something wrong. Or if this Mac I have is different, or works differently.

It's running Yosemitte.


Any thoughts are much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: iPad Pro & Apple Pencil

[jaan ali]

Nice question, I think you can use voice-overs handwriting mode with Apple 
Pencil to write, not sure about drawing and sketching with voice-over.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:05:33 AM
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Subject: iPad Pro & Apple Pencil

Hi Listerrs,

Ok so a craziesh question for those who like being crazy.

Has anyone on the list got or know of a VO user with an iPad pro that also uses 
an apple pencil?

I’ve tried using the pencil previously and thought it was a joke being blind 
and trying to do precission detail work on an iPad with the pencil,
But now that I own and want to do more with my iPad pro I’m starting to wonder 
if the pencil might be of use for somethings  such as signing of documents via 
word or pages / pdf files etc,
Or handwriting for taking notes
And just because I can  trying to draw / sketch  things if tring to demonstrate 
or for reports etc.

I’m just wondering how if anyone else has tried, how did they get on?

Thanks for any info folks can provide.


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Re: iPhone X cases?

[jaan ali]

Hi, you can also check the spec  clear case as well it offers good protection 
as well and it is very slim  as compare to otterbox case

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:37:13 AM
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Subject: Re: iPhone X cases?

Hi Kliph and Simon,

Thanks for this info, Kliph.  Simon, I think I'm going to go with the one that 
Kliph has, but thanks.
Donna
> On Dec 11, 2017, at 4:06 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>
> donna, that case doesn’t stay closed, and it is not real secure, the reason I 
> didn’t like it is the phone stays in it unless you remove it from the inside 
> holder, whitch is more trouble than it is worth, especially since the phone 
> would be fullly exposed.  JMO
>> On Dec 11, 2017, at 4:13 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Donna,
>>
>> Would you by any chance want the apple folio x wallet case?
>> Leather unused ?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, 11 December 2017 1:44 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone X cases?
>>
>> Hi Kliph, Simon, and Aleeha,
>>
>> Thanks for the case suggestions.  I've used an OtterBox case  before, but 
>> like Kliph, I found it bulky.  I was looking at the LifeProof cases 
>> yesterday, but they're expensive, and now that phones are water-resistant, 
>> I'm not sure it's worth the money.  I'll take a look at the commuter series, 
>> though, to see if it's any less bulky, and the Apple leather case sounds 
>> intriguing.  Thanks, Kliph, for that, I didn't even know Apple made a 
>> leather case.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Dec 9, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried to use the folyo case, but it didn’t stay closed, so I went with 
>>> the apple leather case and temperd glass.  I usually go with the oterbox 
>>> serious, but this time I wanted my phone to be less bulky.
 On Dec 9, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

 Hi all,

 Have started looking at cases for my X.  Those of you who have this phone, 
 I'd love to hear what case you are using, and how well you like it.
 Cheers,
 Donna

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Re: it's here, the X

[jaan ali]

Hi, congratulations for your new phone, I have the ten aswell , I’m just 
wondering when you put your finger on to the battery status even if you are not 
connected with the charger will it  tell you not charging with the percentage? 
thanks

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:51:03 AM
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Subject: RE: it's here, the X

Great Report, Simon.

I look forward to your next one, especially your Face ID experience.

Yes, the phone is surprisingly slim when compared to iPhone 8 Plus.

Based on your statement, may we assume that you are using a pass code to unlock 
your 10? or are you, "going commando", (big smile) with no password protection 
whatsoever.  (smile)

Mark

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On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: it's here, the X

Hi Mark,

 Well I have to admit that I didn't get it until 5:30pm lastnight so when I got 
to the setting up face id section I skipped it as the light was getting low and 
it seemed I couldn’t' look directly at the screen.

 So I'll leave that until the weekend and set it up then.

Interesting the using the device without a home button but it's not that 
difficult once you get use to the slide up the screen.

 What I really have noticed is its speed and simple quickness when performing a 
task on screen.

 And I am very surprised by the size,
I thought it would be larger than it is.

 After using a 7+ I'm inclined to think it's even sdmaller than the 7 or 8, yet 
I believe it's slightly larger.

 Still a lot of working things out before I really get use to it.


More to report as things move forward.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
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Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2017 6:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: it's here, the X

Hello Simon.

Your post made me smile.

Congratulations on your iPhone 10.  I’m not certain but, so far, I believe you 
and Cliff are the only two who have received the unit.  I know several other 
people on the list are expecting theirs, any day now.

I have no doubt but that you will continue to love the device.

What do you think of Face ID, so far?

Also, please keep us informed on your Apple Pay experiences with Face ID, okay?

Mark


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: it's here, the X

Hi List,

So today I received notification from my mobile provider that my iPhone X had 
arrived,

And quite frankly it’s like being on a first date,

I’m kind of concerned  about touching it in case I do something wrong,

I will say that setting up the device out of the box and using iCloud backups  
doesn’t work when your back ups are on IOS Public beta versions, and the new 
device was IOS 11 production release…

A bit of playing allowed me to reset the device back to the factory start point 
and run through without an issue

So far after playing around for an hour or so, I’m actually really impressed 
with what they have done,

Once you get passed the fact there is no home button it’s actually easy to work 
with the slide finger up to get the app switcher and home screens.

The device is very quick, and although smaller physically it’s stil got great 
screen realestate to work with,

So I’d say so far it’s been worth the wait but still more playing around to 
come over the next couple of days

At least the iPhone x doesn’t slap me if I put my hand in the wrong place.
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Re: Apple Accessibility is great.

[jaan ali]

I heard that there VoIP software is not accessible for blind people

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:50:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility is great.

Re: Apple phone support:

Apple has their At Home service team. The At Home Support workers work from 
their homes. This is all of Apple's phone support, whether general or 
accessibility. The calls are all managed on VOIP, and the support person is 
using a specially set up iMac Pro. Apple currently has a few blind people 
working in this position.

I went through the first interview for this position in Australia, but found a 
beter position, in my chosen field, so removed myself from Apple's hiring cycle.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

> On 26/04/2017, at 21:37, Scott Granados  wrote:
>
> I’ve had mixed support from Apple but consistently good responses from 
> accessibility.  I also had similar experiences in fact I think I may have 
> gotten a blind support engineer at one point.  I had folks on the regular 
> support line generally not know as much as I do when it comes to the products 
> but Accessibility support has always been good.  They have also been quick to 
> answer my questions when new products come out like how to start VO on the 
> new model with fingerprint censor etc.
>
> I won’t bash accessibility help either, so far so good.  Regular support has 
> been about 50 / 50
>
>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Before any of you slag Apple off, just listen to my story then you can slagg 
>> Apple to high heaven!
>>
>> Today I found an e-mail which said that my Apple Storage plan was under 
>> threat.  So I got really worried because recently I had a lot of e-mails 
>> which were all phishing e-mails and wanted to make sure this was not another 
>> one.
>>
>> So I called the normal number which I normally called and after talking to 
>> an apple advisor, he put me through to Apple accessibility who really helped 
>> with everything.  I'll tell you, he was great.  He also said that the 
>> department was open 24 7 and he gave me the UK Accessibility phone number 
>> which I paste below for those who live in the UK.
>>
>> The number is:
>>
>> 0800 048 0754.
>>
>> Please give this number to your friends who use Apple.
>>
>> I cannot praise the person on the other end highly enough as he solved my 
>> problems in about 5 minutes.  However we chatted for at least 20 minutes.  
>> He was so imporessed with my voice over skills as he said he spoke to a lot 
>> of people who had lost their vision or who had come to use voice over after 
>> switching from jaws.
>>
>> So now who ever wants to, can slag Apple off to their heart's content!  I 
>> won't this evening.
>>
>> Kawal.
>>
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Re: Question regarding protools for mac

[jaan ali]

Hi i downloadet it
Thanks

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From: Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>


ok, so will remove it now

On 3/23/17, joseph mailto:joseph.bi...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
> Hi
> I downloaded it on my machine and sorry for the late reply
> Best
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 22 Mar 2017, at 7:48 pm, jaan ali 
>> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi i downloaded it
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>
>> From: 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on
>> behalf of Ramy Moustafa 
>> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:34:25 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac
>>
>> Ok, with pleasure, but please, tell me when finishing
>>
>> On 3/22/17, joseph mailto:joseph.bi...@gmail.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Rami
>> > Thank you for uploading the tutorial, I am planning to download it on
>> > my
>> > machine this evening so please do not remove it quite yet.
>> > Regards
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On 22 Mar 2017, at 12:50 pm, Ramy Moustafa 
>> >> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Johna dn all:
>> >>
>> >> did you get the Podcasts, may I remove them from my Drop box?
>> >>
>> >> if not, tell me.
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>> On 3/20/17, jaan ali 
>> >>> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>> hi thankyou so much for these you are a lifesaver:)
>> >>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Ramy Moustafa
>> >>> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com><mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello John and all:
>> >>> Here is my dropbox link for the 7 Apple vis podcasts, about Pro
>> >>> tools,
>> >>> Thanks so much Chris for them
>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wib65aopswv7sb1/Apple%20vis%20protools%20podcasts.rar?dl=0
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/19/17, Ramy Moustafa
>> >>> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com><mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>> Hi John:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ok, I'm compressing them now, and will send them on a link, once they
>> >>> are uploaded, I will send you the link
>> >>>
>> >>> Feel free to ask, am not so good in using the app, but I can help as
>> >>> much as I can
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/19/17, jaan ali
>> >>> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com><mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> They are not working, can you send me those that you have it?
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> >>> From:
>> >>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> >>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> >>> on
>> >>> behalf of Ramy Moustafa
>> >>> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com><mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:46:22 AM
>> >>> To:
>> >>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> >>> Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac
>> >>>
>> >>> Aha, great that you found themn,
>> >>> but you will need the protools with speech, tutorial.
>> >>> I'm sure
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/17/17, jaan ali
>> >>> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com><mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> Hi i j

Re: Question regarding protools for mac

[jaan ali]

Hi i downloaded it
Thanks


Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Ramy Moustafa 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:34:25 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac

Ok, with pleasure, but please, tell me when finishing

On 3/22/17, joseph  wrote:
> Hi Rami
> Thank you for uploading the tutorial, I am planning to download it on my
> machine this evening so please do not remove it quite yet.
> Regards
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 22 Mar 2017, at 12:50 pm, Ramy Moustafa 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Johna dn all:
>>
>> did you get the Podcasts, may I remove them from my Drop box?
>>
>> if not, tell me.
>> Thanks
>>
>>> On 3/20/17, jaan ali  wrote:
>>> hi thankyou so much for these you are a lifesaver:)
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Ramy Moustafa
>>> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello John and all:
>>> Here is my dropbox link for the 7 Apple vis podcasts, about Pro tools,
>>> Thanks so much  Chris  for them
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wib65aopswv7sb1/Apple%20vis%20protools%20podcasts.rar?dl=0
>>>
>>> On 3/19/17, Ramy Moustafa
>>> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi John:
>>>
>>> Ok, I'm compressing them now, and will send them on a link, once they
>>> are uploaded, I will send you the link
>>>
>>> Feel free to ask, am not so good in using the app, but I can help as
>>> much as I can
>>>
>>> On 3/19/17, jaan ali
>>> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> They are not working, can you send me those that you have it?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From:
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> on
>>> behalf of Ramy Moustafa
>>> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:46:22 AM
>>> To:
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac
>>>
>>> Aha, great that you  found themn,
>>> but you will need the  protools with speech, tutorial.
>>> I'm sure
>>>
>>> On 3/17/17, jaan ali
>>> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi i just found these podcasts of protools
>>> I will  listen tonight,
>>> thought to share with you all
>>>
>>> http://www.digitalpodcast.com/feeds/39532-applevis-podcast?page=27
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From:
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> on
>>> behalf of Singing Sparrow
>>> mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:50:57 PM
>>> To:
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac
>>>
>>>
>>> Could I get the pro tools totorials for this daw please? I would be
>>> really
>>> interested in learning how to use this daw!
>>>
>>> On 3/16/2017 4:59 PM, Esubalew Johnston wrote:
>>> Hi, I am the stand your struggle as far as Proto's in college. I had to
>>> take
>>> audio production class and it was hard because I've never use the Mac
>>> before
>>> but it would've been a good program to learn because we had to write
>>> commercials promotions and other things that we were going to do. Is
>>> there
>>> a
>>> way I can give it to toils to? Thanks so much.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2017, at 2:45 PM, jaan ali
>>> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com><mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, may you send mE the applevis tutorials  for ProTools? My class is on
>>> tomorrow afternoon
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>
>>> 

Re: Question regarding protools for mac

[jaan ali]

hi thankyou so much for these you are a lifesaver:)
On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello John and all:
Here is my dropbox link for the 7 Apple vis podcasts, about Pro tools,
Thanks so much  Chris  for them
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wib65aopswv7sb1/Apple%20vis%20protools%20podcasts.rar?dl=0

On 3/19/17, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi John:

Ok, I'm compressing them now, and will send them on a link, once they
are uploaded, I will send you the link

Feel free to ask, am not so good in using the app, but I can help as
much as I can

On 3/19/17, jaan ali 
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
They are not working, can you send me those that you have it?
Thanks

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
on
behalf of Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:46:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac

Aha, great that you  found themn,
but you will need the  protools with speech, tutorial.
I'm sure

On 3/17/17, jaan ali 
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi i just found these podcasts of protools
I will  listen tonight,
thought to share with you all

http://www.digitalpodcast.com/feeds/39532-applevis-podcast?page=27

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
on
behalf of Singing Sparrow 
mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net>>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:50:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac


Could I get the pro tools totorials for this daw please? I would be
really
interested in learning how to use this daw!

On 3/16/2017 4:59 PM, Esubalew Johnston wrote:
Hi, I am the stand your struggle as far as Proto's in college. I had to
take
audio production class and it was hard because I've never use the Mac
before
but it would've been a good program to learn because we had to write
commercials promotions and other things that we were going to do. Is
there
a
way I can give it to toils to? Thanks so much.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 16, 2017, at 2:45 PM, jaan ali
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com><mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>>
 wrote:

Hi, may you send mE the applevis tutorials  for ProTools? My class is on
tomorrow afternoon
Thanks


Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From:
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
on
behalf of Ramy Moustafa
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com><mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 4:30:08 PM
To:
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac

Hi John:
Am a pro tools user, of cores on mac not the windows side at all,
yes, it's accessible,.
there is a very very starting tutorial called, protools with speech,
you can get it from:
www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com><http://www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com>>
and, all the Applevis tutorials regarding pro tools are with me, if
you need them.

Feel freee to ask, even on private.

Thanks



On 3/16/17, jaan ali
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com><mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>>
 wrote:
Hi friends hope you all are good, i am takeing a audio course in which
i
have to use protools, i never used this softwhere before, can someone
tell
me is it accessible with voiceover? If yes then where can i find its
guides
or podcats? I tryed applevis but was unable  to find the podcast
Any help will be appreciated


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Re: Question regarding protools for mac

[jaan ali]

hi thankyou so much for these you are a lifesaver:)
On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello John and all:
Here is my dropbox link for the 7 Apple vis podcasts, about Pro tools,
Thanks so much  Chris  for them
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wib65aopswv7sb1/Apple%20vis%20protools%20podcasts.rar?dl=0

On 3/19/17, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi John:

Ok, I'm compressing them now, and will send them on a link, once they
are uploaded, I will send you the link

Feel free to ask, am not so good in using the app, but I can help as
much as I can

On 3/19/17, jaan ali 
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
They are not working, can you send me those that you have it?
Thanks

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
on
behalf of Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:46:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac

Aha, great that you  found themn,
but you will need the  protools with speech, tutorial.
I'm sure

On 3/17/17, jaan ali 
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi i just found these podcasts of protools
I will  listen tonight,
thought to share with you all

http://www.digitalpodcast.com/feeds/39532-applevis-podcast?page=27

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
on
behalf of Singing Sparrow 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:50:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac


Could I get the pro tools totorials for this daw please? I would be
really
interested in learning how to use this daw!

On 3/16/2017 4:59 PM, Esubalew Johnston wrote:
Hi, I am the stand your struggle as far as Proto's in college. I had to
take
audio production class and it was hard because I've never use the Mac
before
but it would've been a good program to learn because we had to write
commercials promotions and other things that we were going to do. Is
there
a
way I can give it to toils to? Thanks so much.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 16, 2017, at 2:45 PM, jaan ali
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, may you send mE the applevis tutorials  for ProTools? My class is on
tomorrow afternoon
Thanks


Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From:
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
on
behalf of Ramy Moustafa
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 4:30:08 PM
To:
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac

Hi John:
Am a pro tools user, of cores on mac not the windows side at all,
yes, it's accessible,.
there is a very very starting tutorial called, protools with speech,
you can get it from:
www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com>>
and, all the Applevis tutorials regarding pro tools are with me, if
you need them.

Feel freee to ask, even on private.

Thanks



On 3/16/17, jaan ali
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi friends hope you all are good, i am takeing a audio course in which
i
have to use protools, i never used this softwhere before, can someone
tell
me is it accessible with voiceover? If yes then where can i find its
guides
or podcats? I tryed applevis but was unable  to find the podcast
Any help will be appreciated


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Re: Question regarding protools for mac

[jaan ali]

They are not working, can you send me those that you have it?
Thanks

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Ramy Moustafa 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:46:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac

Aha, great that you  found themn,
but you will need the  protools with speech, tutorial.
I'm sure

On 3/17/17, jaan ali  wrote:
> Hi i just found these podcasts of protools
> I will  listen tonight,
>  thought to share with you all
>
> http://www.digitalpodcast.com/feeds/39532-applevis-podcast?page=27
>
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on
> behalf of Singing Sparrow 
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:50:57 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac
>
>
> Could I get the pro tools totorials for this daw please? I would be really
> interested in learning how to use this daw!
>
> On 3/16/2017 4:59 PM, Esubalew Johnston wrote:
> Hi, I am the stand your struggle as far as Proto's in college. I had to take
> audio production class and it was hard because I've never use the Mac before
> but it would've been a good program to learn because we had to write
> commercials promotions and other things that we were going to do. Is there a
> way I can give it to toils to? Thanks so much.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 2:45 PM, jaan ali
> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi, may you send mE the applevis tutorials  for ProTools? My class is on
> tomorrow afternoon
> Thanks
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
> 
> From:
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on
> behalf of Ramy Moustafa
> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 4:30:08 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac
>
> Hi John:
> Am a pro tools user, of cores on mac not the windows side at all,
> yes, it's accessible,.
> there is a very very starting tutorial called, protools with speech,
> you can get it from:
> www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com>>
> and, all the Applevis tutorials regarding pro tools are with me, if
> you need them.
>
> Feel freee to ask, even on private.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On 3/16/17, jaan ali
> mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi friends hope you all are good, i am takeing a audio course in which i
>> have to use protools, i never used this softwhere before, can someone
>> tell
>> me is it accessible with voiceover? If yes then where can i find its
>> guides
>> or podcats? I tryed applevis but was unable  to find the podcast
>> Any help will be appreciated
>>
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>
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Re: Question regarding protools for mac

[jaan ali]

Hi i just found these podcasts of protools
I will  listen tonight,
 thought to share with you all

http://www.digitalpodcast.com/feeds/39532-applevis-podcast?page=27

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Singing Sparrow 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:50:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac


Could I get the pro tools totorials for this daw please? I would be really 
interested in learning how to use this daw!

On 3/16/2017 4:59 PM, Esubalew Johnston wrote:
Hi, I am the stand your struggle as far as Proto's in college. I had to take 
audio production class and it was hard because I've never use the Mac before 
but it would've been a good program to learn because we had to write 
commercials promotions and other things that we were going to do. Is there a 
way I can give it to toils to? Thanks so much.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 16, 2017, at 2:45 PM, jaan ali 
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, may you send mE the applevis tutorials  for ProTools? My class is on   
tomorrow afternoon
Thanks


Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on 
behalf of Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 4:30:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac

Hi John:
Am a pro tools user, of cores on mac not the windows side at all,
yes, it's accessible,.
there is a very very starting tutorial called, protools with speech,
you can get it from:
www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com>
and, all the Applevis tutorials regarding pro tools are with me, if
you need them.

Feel freee to ask, even on private.

Thanks



On 3/16/17, jaan ali 
mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi friends hope you all are good, i am takeing a audio course in which i
> have to use protools, i never used this softwhere before, can someone tell
> me is it accessible with voiceover? If yes then where can i find its guides
> or podcats? I tryed applevis but was unable  to find the podcast
> Any help will be appreciated
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Re: Question regarding protools for mac

[jaan ali]

Hi, may you send mE the applevis tutorials  for ProTools? My class is on   
tomorrow afternoon
Thanks


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
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Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 4:30:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Question regarding protools for mac

Hi John:
Am a pro tools user, of cores on mac not the windows side at all,
yes, it's accessible,.
there is a very very starting tutorial called, protools with speech,
you can get it from:
www.protoolswithspeech.com<http://www.protoolswithspeech.com>
and, all the Applevis tutorials regarding pro tools are with me, if
you need them.

Feel freee to ask, even on private.

Thanks



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> Hi friends hope you all are good, i am takeing a audio course in which i
> have to use protools, i never used this softwhere before, can someone tell
> me is it accessible with voiceover? If yes then where can i find its guides
> or podcats? I tryed applevis but was unable  to find the podcast
> Any help will be appreciated
>
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Question regarding protools for mac

[jaan ali]

Hi friends hope you all are good, i am takeing a audio course in which i have 
to use protools, i never used this softwhere before, can someone tell me is it 
accessible with voiceover? If yes then where can i find its guides or podcats? 
I tryed applevis but was unable  to find the podcast
Any help will be appreciated


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Re: the face on my Apple watch came off!

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Hi go to a apple store and show them

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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:04:59 PM
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Subject: the face on my Apple watch came off!

Yep, really.  I have no idea why.  I didn't hit the watch on anything, drop it 
etc., but the face came loose from the watch.  It's still attached by the cable 
underneath, but it's not attached to the frame, it just hangs there loose.  I 
can literally put my finger underneath and feel what's in there.  Has anyone 
seen or heard of this?  does anyone know if it's fixable?  At the moment, I 
have it taped down with scotch tape, just to keep debris out.
TIA,
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Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

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Hi, the delete all button is also gone, that's why am using the outlook mail 
instead of the regular mail app


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On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:09 PM -0400, "Phil Halton" 
mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

message threading seems to have changed substantially in IOS10. I can no longer 
3 finger flick from message to message in a thread, instead I have to use the 
“pre and next” message buttons. Also, the list of messages in a thread no 
longer appears, but instead I am thrown into the first message in the thread 
and then have to navigate between messages using the next and pre message 
buttons. What a screw up this is! is 3 finger flicking from message to message 
gone in ios10?
Also how about the thread message list? is that gone too? or are there some 
settings that need tweaking?


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Re: Restoring to factory settings

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Glad that your problem got solved
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> On Jun 29, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
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> Hi. I have pressed the option key five times as you have just suggested and I 
> think it might have sold the problem. I was on the main desktop when I 
> pressed it five times. First letter navigation is now working. 
> 
>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 23:31, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Try pressing the Option key five times in a row.  If a certain checkbox is 
>> checked in the Accessibility pane of System Prefs, then this set of 
>> key-presses will toggle Mouse keys on/off.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
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>> 
>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 16:26, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. How do I turn the mouse mode off?  This is my final throw of the dice 
>> before I attempt to reset the machine. 
>>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 23:14, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If its a Voiceover issue then bring up Voiceover Utility and on the menu 
>>> bar, under File you will find "Reset all Voiceover preferences". If that 
>>> does not do it, try this.
>>> 
>>> Resetting PRAM.
>>> 
>>> Shut down.
>>> Locate following keys on keyboard:
>>> Option-Cmd-P-R
>>> Hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
>>> 
>>> Turn Mac on.
>>> Immediately press and hold the four keys. You must press this key 
>>> combination before the black screen with Apple logo appears.
>>> 
>>> Continue holding keys until Mac restarts, and you hear startup sound for 
>>> second time.
>>> 
>>> Release keys.
>>> After resetting PRAM, you may need to update your speaker volume, display 
>>> resolution, and startup disk preferences.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 6/29/2016 2:28 PM, Saqib Hussain wrote:
 Hi. If you have read my emails about keyboard behaving oddly! This is the 
 reason why I need to reset my Mac because I can't find a solution for the 
 problem
 
> On 29 Jun 2016, at 21:45, jeff `greene  wrote:
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> Hi Saqib,
> 1 backup all your data
> 2 shut down your mac
> 3 reboot holding down command+r which will get you into recovery mode
> 4 wait like a minute then hit command+f5 to bring up VO
> 5 you'll find yourself in a table, choose disc utility and erase your hdd
> 6 close disc utility, interact with that table again and choose
> install mac osx. You'll have to enter your apple id and password and
> then you should be all set!
> Hope this helps! Jeff
> 
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>> On 6/29/16, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>> Hi. How do I restore my Mac to factory settings. I can't fix this 
>> keyboard
>> issue
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Re: Restoring to factory settings

[jaan ali]

 I press come on plus; for unlock the command key
Oar may be you head quik nav on turn it off
Or lastly may be you have voiceover keys lock press voiceover keys and ; to 
unlock and lock 
Thanks

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> On Jun 29, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
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> Hi. My other issue that I can no longer navigate by first letter when in 
> system preferences! I still am getting this command key locking up. 
>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 22:52, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There is no setting that will disable specific keys on your keyboard after 
>> time has elapsed.  I wonder if you're accidentally turning on Mouse keys?  
>> Mouse keys, when enabled often disables the use of the cmd key.  If this is 
>> happening with multiple keyboards, then it's guaranteed to be a software 
>> setting, such as something in the Keyboard pane of System Prefs, something 
>> in the Accessibility pane of System Prefs or something to do with the 
>> VoiceOver Utility.  If VO Utility is the culprit, then look in the Keyboard 
>> commander area.  If in the Accessibility pane, then check if Mouse keys is 
>> enabled.  It's also possible that the Modifier keys have been changed in 
>> some way within the Keyboard pane.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 15:28, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. If you have read my emails about keyboard behaving oddly! This is the 
>> reason why I need to reset my Mac because I can't find a solution for the 
>> problem 
>> 
>>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 21:45, jeff `greene  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Saqib,
>>> 1 backup all your data
>>> 2 shut down your mac
>>> 3 reboot holding down command+r which will get you into recovery mode
>>> 4 wait like a minute then hit command+f5 to bring up VO
>>> 5 you'll find yourself in a table, choose disc utility and erase your hdd
>>> 6 close disc utility, interact with that table again and choose
>>> install mac osx. You'll have to enter your apple id and password and
>>> then you should be all set!
>>> Hope this helps! Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/29/16, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
 Hi. How do I restore my Mac to factory settings. I can't fix this keyboard
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Re: Mac book recommendation please

[jaan ali]

I want to contribute as well the thing is that that in 15 inch there is more 
space on the side which I don't like it personally  but 13 inch pro is best I 
have 13 inch Pro  2015 core i7  16gb ram   512gb storage 
I bought it refurnish from the Apple directly


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> On Jun 28, 2016, at 7:43 PM, Andy  wrote:
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> Hi Scott.
>  
> This is exactly the kind of information I've been seeking for some days now 
> with no luck.  You've gave me a bit to ponder but I'm very atracted to the 
> Macbook Air 13 inch with the better keyboard at this time.
> See.  Now we are getting somewhare.  It's easy for me now to get my mate to 
> search on Ebay, though a re-furnished model from the Apple Store may very 
> well be worth considering.  So a phone call tomorrow is on the cards and who 
> knows, I may be able to go for my first training session after next week?
>  
>  
> Very best wishes.
> Andy.
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Scott Granados
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please
> 
> Hi Andy, ah that clears it up then.  I thought from the original post you 
> just needed the laptop for a one time use for training.
> 
> There’s a lot of ways to go.
> 
> 
> The air is the thinnest model.  It has a real keyboard with discrete keys.  
> The spread between the keys is surprisingly good especially for the size.  
> I’d go with the larger 13 inch model for more hand room.
> 
> Let me try to clear up some of the confusion on the different models.
> 
> The Macbook is the least powerful version.  It uses a mobile processor and 
> probably isn’t for you in that it is very under powered.  I’m not sure what 
> Apple was thinking market wise with this device but if I were you I’d skip it.
> 
> The Air is a nice super thin model.  Would be great for your traveling and 
> fits nicely in a bag or you can get it a nice hard shell covering.  It’s 
> maybe a quarter inch thick, has great battery life and you can get an I5 or 
> I7 model depending on your processing needs.  This model has been around a 
> while so you may also buy previous years versions or on the second hand 
> market to save some extra money.
> 
> Then you have the pro of where there are two types, the 13 inch an 15 inch.  
> Other than screen size difference the 15 inch model can have more
> processing power.
> 
> About processing power, I know that can be confusing.  Typically with Apple 
> you’re dealing with either an I5 or I7.  These are Intel processors where 
> think of the number as a grade or class.  A 7 is a more powerful processor 
> than a 5.
> When you hear the word cores mentioned, processors now have more than one 
> physical processing component or core on a single piece of silicon.  So in 
> one slot you may actually have 2 or 4 processors in the case of Apple or 
> other devices 12 or more cores or processors per slot.  The more cores means 
> more processing units to bring to bare on your tasks.  The way these get 
> assigned and used is way outside the scope here and I don’t want to confuse 
> you worse.  Just as a general  rule the more cores and better quality 
> processor the better for performance.  You need to decide whether you want to 
> spend more or less here.  
> 
> The 13 inch and 15 inch pros have been around a good long while so you have 
> lots of previous year options if you want to save some money and you can also 
> go with a factory refurbished option direct from Apple.  Again you can speak 
> to your budget needs best.
> 
> The 15 inch model has a bit better graphics card, obviously slightly larger 
> screen and all models of the pro have a very good keyboard.  Feels a lot like 
> the air but with a little more throw on the keys but not enough to 
> drastically impact your experience I don’t think.
> 
> The best thing I could suggest is if you can have a feel of the units.  I 
> don’t know what your computer buying options are in Scotland but here in the 
> states we have stores where they are all set up to touch and type on.  I know 
> you have an Apple store there but you may have another store geographically 
> closer to you for convenience.
> 
> If I were you I’d go with the air for portability reasons if you like to 
> travel a lot or if you feel you need a lot of horsepower in a mobile package 
> the 13 inch pro should have more than enough juice.  If you want to go top of 
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Re: Adobe Reader DC

[jaan ali]

Hi, if you talking about the Mac then the same thing happened with me as well
I am very disappointed with the PDF with Mac so that's why I'm using Windows 
only for this purpose

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> On Jun 26, 2016, at 12:35 AM, Chris Meredith  wrote:
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> So I downloaded Adobe Reader DC, confident* in its ability to allow access to 
> PDF files using VoiceOver.  Upon selecting a PDF, I was dropped into, 
> astoundingly enough, an accessible view of the document.  Now, here’s the 
> good bit—when I moved out of that accessible area, I was completely unable to 
> get back to the document.  Did Acrobat actually design things such that you 
> have only one chance at viewing your PDF document, or am I making some sort 
> of newbie error?
> 
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Re: Looking for audio or even txt tutorials to get me started with VO and my new Mac

[jaan ali]

Hi, can you also send this to me please thank you waiting for your positive 
reply

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> On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:46 PM, zoe fiogkos  wrote:
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> Me to Karen please, and thank you so much
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of elayneh
> Sent: June 14, 2016 8:51 AM
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> Subject: Re: Looking for audio or even txt tutorials to get me started with 
> VO and my new Mac
>  
> hi will you send me a copy of the text and any other audio information. I 
> am a new mac user also and this will really help me.thank you 
> 
> On 6/14/2016 12:44 AM, Andy wrote:
> Hi again Karen. 
> 
> Yes absolutely!  This is exactly the type of thing I'm looking for.  I'd love 
> to have copies of each please if you can give me a download link. 
> 
> I've had a number of very kind responses from members offering individual 
> support by telephone.  I live in Scotland so the phone bills would lead to a 
> hammering from my wife Pauline.  Not too good at going through training by 
> telephone in anycase as you cannot really consentrate on taking notes.  Much 
> better to have text files, or better, audio tutorials. 
> 
> Very best wishes. 
> Andy. 
> - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" 
>  
> To:  
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:09 PM 
> Subject: Re: Looking for audio or even txt tutorials to get me started with 
> VO and my new Mac 
> 
> 
> 
> Ho again Andy, 
> You are most welcome. 
> I found, rather simply I might add, both a text copy of keyboard shortcuts 
> for el captain, and the voiceover users guide in text. 
> If you  require them write me off list and I can either send them along or 
> tell you where they can be found. 
> Kare 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Andy wrote: 
> 
> 
> Hi Karen. 
> 
> Thank you for responding to my enquiry. 
> 
> I am aware of John's site, Mac for the Blind and indeed, John is currently 
> assisting me resolve my problems and does have a number of audio podcasts 
> available, which I have already downloaded two of them. 
> 
> However, I floored myself saving up for my new Imac and simply cannot afford 
> these. 
> 
> This is why I'm trying to locate some text tutorials or something like that, 
> to get me going. 
> 
> Thanks for your advise. 
> 
> Very best wishes. 
> Andy. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" 
>  
> To:  
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 6:28 PM 
> Subject: Re: Looking for audio or even txt tutorials to get me started with 
> VO and my new Mac 
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi, 
>  No idea which os you are running but John, who is a member here, keeps all 
>  of the voiceover users guides in test on his website. 
>  www.macfortheblind.com 
>  Or I think that is correct. 
>  I cannot say if it remains, but there is or was  a training built into the 
>  voiceover utility itself. 
>  Loads of free options out there for you. 
>  HTH, 
>  Kare 
> 
>  On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Andy wrote: 
> 
> >  Hi all. 
> > 
> >  I've jumped ship from Win 7 to a beutiful 27 inch Imac with Elcapitan > 
> > and I'm stuck. 
> > 
> >  I cannot for the life of me find affordable tutorials, in any format, > to 
> > get me started. 
> > 
> >  I bought the new computer and jumped ship because I was convinced > that 
> > there must be lpoads of training materials available to help me, > but 
> > unfortunately, the lovely shine is quickly leaving my new > computer. 
> > 
> >  So I need some form of formate media to help me learn about voice > over 
> > and how to get started . 
> > 
> >  Any information would be absolutely appricieated. 
> > 
> >  Andy. 
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Re: Iphone Se.

[jaan ali]

Hi, i tryed it and it was very nice, battery life is very good and audio is 
also good, speed is very nice sometime i thought it is more responsive then my 
6s plus, and you can also end calls from power key in that phone, look vice  
it's completely like a five s

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> On 16-Apr-2016, at 12:35 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Has anyone had their hands on the Iphone SE yet?
> I am not very happy with my Iphone 6S since its to big for me as i really 
> want a small phone.
> As small as possible.
> I therefore Bought me an android Motorola Moto g and i have done some testing.
> But i really don’t feel comfortable with the way talkback works and also the 
> way many people on the Eyes-free list is handling the movement from apple to 
> Android and all i ask for.
> Maybe i am to sensible but thats the way i am.
> So now when the Iphone SE came out i was really excited about how good it 
> seems to be.
> The only thing it doesn’t have is the 3d touch.
> But i don’t use that myself.
> So whats your thoughts?
> How about battery life?
> How about audio quality and such?
> I can ofcourse go and get my hands on one myself.
> But i want to hear others opinion first.
> Thanks in advance and sorry for my klunky english.
> /A
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Re: iPhone 6S Plus Extreme Heat Issue

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Hi, you must go to the apple store and get the replacement asap

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> On 29-Mar-2016, at 11:17 PM, syc20...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> At first i thought it was pretty normal but that's probably right choice. I 
> keep my brightness at auto but even with that, the phone should not supposed 
> to get this hot. When doing light work even
> I was able to figure out that I do have a Samsung manufactured A9 processor 
> but still that should not let the phone to become this hot
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>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 10:06 PM, ben J. Bloomgren  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Seyoon-si,
>> 
>> Yeah, it looks like you may have a lemon on your hands. I've seen sighted 
>> people with 100% brightness, but they don't see major heat unless they're 
>> doing heavy graphics stuff like gaming, broadcasting on Periscope or 
>> whatever, or if it's actually hot outside while they use it.
>> 
>> Annyeong,
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 19:41, Seyoon Choi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello listers,
>>> I was wondering and had question about my 6S Plus and wanted an input from 
>>> you guys and see if anyone else has this issue. So couple weeks ago I got a 
>>> new iPhone 6S Plus and during the use I’ve noticed that the phone heats up 
>>> quite frequently, even with light use like checking messages or scrolling 
>>> through tweets with VoiceOver. I am wondering if this is specifically 
>>> VoiceOver problem and if anyone has the same issue. The event that really 
>>> occurs is when I start streaming videos that are longer than 2 in a half 
>>> minutes. I was continuously streaming videos from my YouTube subscription 
>>> box and the phone was very hot. I had 5S previously, and because the phone 
>>> is doing and processing it’s resources I would expect a little bit of heat 
>>> at the back of the phone but haven’t seen it getting this hot. It was so 
>>> hot that the phone even displayed temperature warning. To me, the top right 
>>> hand side, majority being underneath the camera seem to be the hottest 
>>> spot. It’s interesting how the newer phone exposes more heat and because 
>>> it’s a bigger phone I thought the heat would dissipate throughout the 
>>> phone. Anyone else ran into this issue? If it’s getting frequent 
>>> temperature warning I certainly think Apple store might be a trip that I 
>>> would have to plan on.
>>> 
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Re: Iphone 6s plus audio problim

[jaan ali]

   yes I agree with you, I just went to the apple store today and got my 
phone replaced, got another new box of 6s plus, but same problim, so it’s a 
over all problim and I think I have to deal with it till september when the 
I phone 7 comeout





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Subject: Re: Iphone 6s plus audio problim

Yes.  Noticeable decrease in speaker performance from iPhone 6 Plus to 
iPhone 6S Plus.  It was quite a disappointment, and I know it’s not just me 
either.  I’m not going back, though, because the 6S Plus still has the 
better specs and wicked-fast Touch ID.


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Re: Iphone 6s plus audio problim

[jaan ali]

so this is I also find out 
So I switched to the 6s plus today from a regular 6 plus and when playing music 
I noticed it seemed a little muffled. I played the same song next to my 6 and
definitely a quality difference. Can tell if it's worse quality or not but it 
seems muffled. No case on either. Has anyone else noticed this?

check this foram few users also faceing same problim

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/3mf5sm/speaker_quality_not_as_good_on_6s_plus/

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Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 3:46 PM
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Weird, ever since I got my 6S back last October, I've never noticed too much 
distortion.  Maybe a little bit, but it's very suttle if any, and I normally 
do! run mine if not all the way up, at least maybe 1 notch away from all the 
way.  Granted, I'm using the Siri Male voice, but even when I used Alex a few 
times, I don't recall having this issue.  I think the only voice I've found 
that does! distort like crazy is Symantha.
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  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Iphone 6s plus audio problim

  If it’s on a full volume any iPhone speaker will definitely distort the 
volume. I had an issue with my 6S Plus when i purchased about 3 weeks ago where 
Alex would often chop off and clip out but updating to 9.3 resolved the issue. 

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    On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:35 PM, jaan ali  wrote:

Hi yes there was the earpod problim, but when i listen to any podcast on 
speaker of the phone and full the volume so the voice feels  littlebit 
distorted even flicking on keyboard with Alex it feels same 
 
I dont know i  Should replace the phone or not


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On 26-Mar-2016, at 4:48 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:


  I have a 6S plus and have no problems with the audio. How is the audio 
without EarBuds? Maybe the problem is with earbuds that you're using.


  Sent from my IPhone


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Hi friends hope all are good, i bought iphone 6 s plus 3 days a go and 
found that the audio on headphones is not good, i mean it has a slite buzzing, 
i dont know how to describe but want to know is anyone also faceing this 
problim? I face this problim when i was listening to music   with the earpods, 
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Re: Iphone 6s plus audio problim

[jaan ali]

Hi yes there was the earpod problim, but when i listen to any podcast on 
speaker of the phone and full the volume so the voice feels  littlebit 
distorted even flicking on keyboard with Alex it feels same 
  
I dont know i  Should replace the phone or not


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> I have a 6S plus and have no problems with the audio. How is the audio 
> without EarBuds? Maybe the problem is with earbuds that you're using.
> 
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>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 2:10 PM, jaan ali  wrote:
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>> 
>> Hi friends hope all are good, i bought iphone 6 s plus 3 days a go and found 
>> that the audio on headphones is not good, i mean it has a slite buzzing, i 
>> dont know how to describe but want to know is anyone also faceing this 
>> problim? I face this problim when i was listening to music   with the 
>> earpods, 
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Iphone 6s plus audio problim

[jaan ali]

Hi friends hope all are good, i bought iphone 6 s plus 3 days a go and found 
that the audio on headphones is not good, i mean it has a slite buzzing, i dont 
know how to describe but want to know is anyone also faceing this problim? I 
face this problim when i was listening to music   with the earpods, 
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Re: blue tooth headsets

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I think voiger edge is better 
> On 19-Mar-2016, at 8:50 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Scott,
> 
> I've not tried the Plantronics legend but know it was a great device back in  
> the day,
> 
> Would you still put it above the Edge?
> 
> 
> And I used one of the early era devices but at that point it's accessibility 
> wasn't great. Still it was an excellent device, 
> I just need to stop being so hard on headsets.
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 4:53 AM
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> Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets
> 
> Max, your brother is misinformed.  Bluetooth is a series of specifications 
> that are standardized so aside some special features in general most things 
> work pretty well with each other.  There are headsets in general though that 
> work better than others.  This is one of the favorite topics of mine and also 
> the moderator’s Mark I believe.
> 
> In my mind there are two ways to go and there have been the 2 same players on 
> top for a while now.  There is the plantronics legend and the era by jawbone. 
>  The Jawbone is the most stylish / smallest headset and the plantronics is 
> the largest most utilitarian of the two.  Depends on what your goal is.  If 
> you want to look cool, have good noise reduction, medium battery life and 
> have the same toys as the cool kids buy a Jawbone.  If you want your headset 
> to work in all conditions, want fantastic noise reduction, don’t care about 
> the fact there’s a boom microphone and you need great battery life then the 
> plantronics voyager pro legend is the way to go.  Hands down the plastrons 
> works the best it’s just whether your concern is mostly function or you want 
> some style.
> 
> How’s that?
> 
> BTW I use the voyager pro legend almost exclusively now although I carry 
> both.  I find the plantronics just more stable and for my professional calls 
> and work environment the only option.
> 
> 
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>> hello; I'm wanting to buy a blue tooth headset to go with my iPhone. my 
>> brother said that when he looked online he heard that a lot of them don't 
>> work with the iPhone. so what would you all recommend? I may just need the 
>> headphones because today i did a Skype call using my iPhone and the guy was 
>> really impressed with the quality. thanks for your help, max 
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Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

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Try to change it again and this time from a  different browser

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> O its ok
> No problim☺️ 
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>> i'm sorry about those messages my account was hacked. i changed my
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Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

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O its ok
No problim☺️ 


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> i'm sorry about those messages my account was hacked. i changed my
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Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

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sorry but this message was not for you, it was for jason
kindly read the last messages of the trillion topic and you will get the idea 

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Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

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do not show your class on the list
> On Feb 23, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Jason Shaw  wrote:
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> learn to use fucking punctuation you little dibshit
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> On 2/23/2016 6:14 AM, Jaan Ali wrote:
>> hi download the new version of trillion it is the beta 5 thats why its
>> not on mac store, i got it from trillion’s webside it came on 18 feb
>> 2016 and working great with voiceover below is the link for download
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trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

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hi download the new version of trillion it is the beta 5 thats why its not on 
mac store, i got it from trillion’s webside it came on 18 feb 2016 and working 
great with voiceover below is the link for download
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Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

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there you go
https://www.dropbox.com/s/75yimmphe5x9tdr/Trillian.app.zip?dl=0

> On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> Ok cool.
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>> Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so
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>>>> Ok, I don't see anything to download.  I see something that says 
>>>> "attachment available until," but don't remember the date, but the save 
>>>> attachment option is dimmed.
>>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 8:50 PM, Jaan Ali >>> <mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Attachment available until Mar 23, 2016
>>>>> hi kindly remove the version that you are useing and download thisone and 
>>>>> copy it in your app’s folder i am running it perfectly without any problim
>>>>> i think it is 3.2
>>>>>  but it is working like a charm
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Jessica Moss >>>>> <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> k, I'm not sure if this is the version you were telling me about or not, 
>>>>>> but when I click the link, it just temporarily goes busy, then says 
>>>>>> "empty html content," then I see a file name called "trillian," but have 
>>>>>> no idea what version, but it's just as enaccessible as any of the 
>>>>>> other's I've ever tried, aside from the older version that I was sent 
>>>>>> which I could somewhat use, but couldn't access any of my on line 
>>>>>> contacts, and couldn't figure out how to start a chat with anybody, on 
>>>>>> line or not just to test it.  I really just want something simple that I 
>>>>>> can use to chat with people on fb through my computer, sense it takes 
>>>>>> forever on my phone, and this is frustrating the heck out of me.
>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:21 PM, BBS >>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here is the link to get Trillian 3.4. Sorry Scott Berry for the wait as 
>>>>>>> well. www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.4/ 
>>>>>>> <http://www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.4/>.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
>>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>>>>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>>>>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
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>>>>>>> 
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Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[jaan ali]

Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so

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>> On 22-Feb-2016, at 8:55 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I don't see anything to download.  I see something that says "attachment 
>> available until," but don't remember the date, but the save attachment 
>> option is dimmed.
>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 8:50 PM, Jaan Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Attachment available until Mar 23, 2016
>>> hi kindly remove the version that you are useing and download thisone and 
>>> copy it in your app’s folder i am running it perfectly without any problim
>>> i think it is 3.2
>>>  but it is working like a charm
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Jessica Moss  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> k, I'm not sure if this is the version you were telling me about or not, 
>>>> but when I click the link, it just temporarily goes busy, then says "empty 
>>>> html content," then I see a file name called "trillian," but have no idea 
>>>> what version, but it's just as enaccessible as any of the other's I've 
>>>> ever tried, aside from the older version that I was sent which I could 
>>>> somewhat use, but couldn't access any of my on line contacts, and couldn't 
>>>> figure out how to start a chat with anybody, on line or not just to test 
>>>> it.  I really just want something simple that I can use to chat with 
>>>> people on fb through my computer, sense it takes forever on my phone, and 
>>>> this is frustrating the heck out of me.
>>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:21 PM, BBS  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Here is the link to get Trillian 3.4. Sorry Scott Berry for the wait as 
>>>>> well. www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.4/.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 7:12 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where are you finding this?  I've done google searches for it, and the 
>>>>> latest I've been able to find is 3.3, which I tried after the older 
>>>>> version still refuses to show my contacts as being on line, and the 3.3 
>>>>> version is just as useless.
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 5:12 AM, BBS  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, it's not the old version. This is 3.4 that he gave me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
>>>>>> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
>>>>>> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[jaan ali]

Click on the download button which is in the starting of the message 

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> On 22-Feb-2016, at 8:55 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I don't see anything to download.  I see something that says "attachment 
> available until," but don't remember the date, but the save attachment option 
> is dimmed.
>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 8:50 PM, Jaan Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Attachment available until Mar 23, 2016
>> hi kindly remove the version that you are useing and download thisone and 
>> copy it in your app’s folder i am running it perfectly without any problim
>> i think it is 3.2
>>  but it is working like a charm
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> k, I'm not sure if this is the version you were telling me about or not, 
>>> but when I click the link, it just temporarily goes busy, then says "empty 
>>> html content," then I see a file name called "trillian," but have no idea 
>>> what version, but it's just as enaccessible as any of the other's I've ever 
>>> tried, aside from the older version that I was sent which I could somewhat 
>>> use, but couldn't access any of my on line contacts, and couldn't figure 
>>> out how to start a chat with anybody, on line or not just to test it.  I 
>>> really just want something simple that I can use to chat with people on fb 
>>> through my computer, sense it takes forever on my phone, and this is 
>>> frustrating the heck out of me.
>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:21 PM, BBS  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Here is the link to get Trillian 3.4. Sorry Scott Berry for the wait as 
>>>> well. www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.4/.
>>>> 
>>>> Shawn
>>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 7:12 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>>>> 
>>>> Where are you finding this?  I've done google searches for it, and the 
>>>> latest I've been able to find is 3.3, which I tried after the older 
>>>> version still refuses to show my contacts as being on line, and the 3.3 
>>>> version is just as useless.
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 5:12 AM, BBS  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, it's not the old version. This is 3.4 that he gave me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
>>>>> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
>>>>> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 1:09 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you talking about the old version that was brought up about a week 
>>>>> ago? I got that one up and running, but can't find that option anywhere.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 11:38 AM, BBS  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kevin from Trillian gave me the link to downlad it. What's your email 
>>>>>> address? I'll forward the link to you off list unless other people want 
>>>>>> it as well.
>>>>>&g

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[Jaan Ali]

Attachment available until Mar 23, 2016
hi kindly remove the version that you are useing and download thisone and copy 
it in your app’s folder i am running it perfectly without any problim
i think it is 3.2
 but it is working like a charm

> On Feb 22, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> k, I'm not sure if this is the version you were telling me about or not, but 
> when I click the link, it just temporarily goes busy, then says "empty html 
> content," then I see a file name called "trillian," but have no idea what 
> version, but it's just as enaccessible as any of the other's I've ever tried, 
> aside from the older version that I was sent which I could somewhat use, but 
> couldn't access any of my on line contacts, and couldn't figure out how to 
> start a chat with anybody, on line or not just to test it.  I really just 
> want something simple that I can use to chat with people on fb through my 
> computer, sense it takes forever on my phone, and this is frustrating the 
> heck out of me.
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:21 PM, BBS  wrote:
> 
>> Here is the link to get Trillian 3.4. Sorry Scott Berry for the wait as 
>> well. www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.4/.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 7:12 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>> 
>> Where are you finding this?  I've done google searches for it, and the 
>> latest I've been able to find is 3.3, which I tried after the older version 
>> still refuses to show my contacts as being on line, and the 3.3 version is 
>> just as useless.
>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 5:12 AM, BBS  wrote:
>> 
>>> No, it's not the old version. This is 3.4 that he gave me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
>>> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
>>> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 1:09 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>>> 
>>> Are you talking about the old version that was brought up about a week ago? 
>>> I got that one up and running, but can't find that option anywhere.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 19, 2016, at 11:38 AM, BBS  wrote:
 
 Kevin from Trillian gave me the link to downlad it. What's your email 
 address? I'll forward the link to you off list unless other people want it 
 as well.
 
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
 shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
 bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
 Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 6:47 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
 
 Oh cool, how did you manage to get it?
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:40 PM, BBS  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why 
> that isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which 
> fixes the accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet 
> but I have it.
> 
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:26 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
> 
> Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and 
> running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on 
> facebook, which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a 
> pain in the neck to deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or 
> not.  Is there any way to hide my off line contacts?
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
>>

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[Jaan Ali]

> On Feb 22, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> k, I'm not sure if this is the version you were telling me about or not, but 
> when I click the link, it just temporarily goes busy, then says "empty html 
> content," then I see a file name called "trillian," but have no idea what 
> version, but it's just as enaccessible as any of the other's I've ever tried, 
> aside from the older version that I was sent which I could somewhat use, but 
> couldn't access any of my on line contacts, and couldn't figure out how to 
> start a chat with anybody, on line or not just to test it.  I really just 
> want something simple that I can use to chat with people on fb through my 
> computer, sense it takes forever on my phone, and this is frustrating the 
> heck out of me.
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:21 PM, BBS  wrote:
> 
>> Here is the link to get Trillian 3.4. Sorry Scott Berry for the wait as 
>> well. www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.4/.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 7:12 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>> 
>> Where are you finding this?  I've done google searches for it, and the 
>> latest I've been able to find is 3.3, which I tried after the older version 
>> still refuses to show my contacts as being on line, and the 3.3 version is 
>> just as useless.
>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 5:12 AM, BBS  wrote:
>> 
>>> No, it's not the old version. This is 3.4 that he gave me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
>>> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
>>> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 1:09 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>>> 
>>> Are you talking about the old version that was brought up about a week ago? 
>>> I got that one up and running, but can't find that option anywhere.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 19, 2016, at 11:38 AM, BBS  wrote:
 
 Kevin from Trillian gave me the link to downlad it. What's your email 
 address? I'll forward the link to you off list unless other people want it 
 as well.
 
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
 shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
 bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
 Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 6:47 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
 
 Oh cool, how did you manage to get it?
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:40 PM, BBS  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why 
> that isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which 
> fixes the accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet 
> but I have it.
> 
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:26 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
> 
> Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and 
> running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on 
> facebook, which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a 
> pain in the neck to deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or 
> not.  Is there any way to hide my off line contacts?
> 
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