Re: question re setting up new iPhone

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Good day Donna, 

I always restore from an iCloud backup. 

The iTunes backup is also an option. 

I guess is just personal preference. 

Kindest regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 25 Sep 2015, at 10:48 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hey all,
> 
> Getting ready for my 6S which I hope to get tomorrow.  I have a question.  
> When you set up a new iPhone, you are prompted to restore from Previous 
> Backup, or Set up as new iPhone.  I always choose the latter, as i didn't 
> know what the repercussions would be of choosing restore from existing 
> Backup.  But I've sometimes thought I was creating extra work for myself.  
> Just wondering what everyone else does?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

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I'd say, the Mac is your best bet here. The convenience of an integrated 
keyboard can't be beaten. 

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> On 23 Sep 2015, at 1:41 am, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Like David, I'd use braille too on my I phone.
> On 22 Sep 2015, at 00:26, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> As I am extremely proficient with braille screen input, I actually use my 
> iPhone or iPad for taking notes in meetings. I use a bluetooth earpiece for 
> audio feedback (words) as a double-check (something I even need when typing). 
> I am quicker and more accurate with braille.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2015, at 11:11, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> 
>> I always use my Mac for meetings such as this. It is just easier, more 
>> reliable.
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>> UT Chattanooga
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> I would go with the Mac.  It’s pretty intuitive and for what you want to do 
>>> you could learn that in a few minutes judging by your skill and sharpness 
>>> demonstrated on list.  Text edit is very easy to use and you could have the 
>>> mac in sleep mode, wake it up and be right in text edit removing a lot of 
>>> the pre navigation.  The IPAD isn’t bad but bluetooth isn’t it’s native 
>>> environment.  As you said you could get in to the weeds.  +1 on the Mac for 
>>> ease of use from me.
>>> 
 On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I have been asked to substitute as a minutes take her for an upcoming 
 meeting. I used to do this on a PC laptop in MS Word with complete 
 confidence and competence. However, that laptop is long since gone and 
 buried.
 At this point, my choices are to use my eye pad with a Bluetooth keyboard 
 and pray that I don't get bit by the Bluetooth bug in iOS 9, choosing 
 among apps such as voice dream writer or the new notes app. Or I could 
 borrow my husbands 11 inch MacBook air, with which I am not that familiar, 
 and use something like text at it. Neither prospect is exciting. I'm 
 looking for something that is going to be reliable and foolproof. As in me 
 being a fool and screwing up their minutes. What do people think would be 
 the easiest thing to do the most foolproof thing? This is, assuming I 
 don't get the Bluetooth bug that wipes out my iPad? Most about using the 
 MacBook is hitting that darned oversized touchpad and ending up somewhere 
 where I really don't want to be and not having a clue how to get back 
 where I need to be in the text writing app.
 Mary
 
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VMware.

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Hi all, 

Just wondering what’s new with VMWare 8.0? 

If I do end up purchasing is there a way to set up a dedicated JAWS key? 

I remember doing this in 6.0 but even after using Sharp keys some JAWS 
functionality didn’t work in the virtual machine. 

As always thanks for any assistance. 

Yours truley, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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Re: VMWare.

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Hi Jonathan, 

Thanks for the link and information. 

Will check it out tomorrow. 

Regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 22 Sep 2015, at 1:25 am, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
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> Hi Sadam, there's plenty of information on the VMWare site about what's new 
> in 8, but predominantly it's Windows 10 and El Capitan support.
> The best summary I have seen of how to get a JAWS key working in Fusion is in 
> this blog post.
> How to map your Mac’s CapsLock key to a NVDA or JAWS key in a Windows virtual 
> machine
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
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>> On 22/09/2015, at 1:25 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Just wondering what’s new with VMWare 8.0? 
>> 
>> If I do end up purchasing is there a way to set up a dedicated JAWS key? 
>> 
>> I remember doing this in 6.0 but even after using Sharp keys some JAWS 
>> functionality didn’t work in the virtual machine. 
>> 
>> As always thanks for any assistance. 
>> 
>> Yours truley, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> Sent from my 13-inch MacBook Pro 
>> 
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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

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Hi Kawal., 

The next version of OS X will be released September 30. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 20 Sep 2015, at 8:55 am, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> I'm she, rather than a he.
> On 19 Sep 2015, at 22:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
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> If I am thinking of the bug he is asking about, yes, yay it is fixed! It is 
> the bug that when you tapped delete it would go to reply. Yay, yay, at least 
> no doing this for a while using mail! I am so happy! 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
>> 
>> Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
>> haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
>>> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
>>> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, 
>>> is that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan 
>>> will be released as I don't know.
>>> 
>>> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions on 
>>> here now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: IOS 9 impressions?

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This feature is only available on the new phones. 

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> On 18 Sep 2015, at 5:25 am, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Well I upgrade then.  Is 3D touch available or is this just so on the new 6 
> plus S's or 6S's?
> On 17 Sep 2015, at 20:00, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I haven't noticed that actually.
>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> A friend of mine said there was a bug on IOS9 where if you put headphones in 
>> to make a call then took them out, Voice Over would die.  She said some 
>> phones did that and others didn't so I don't know if I should hold off.  
>> Should I put it on that is the question as I'm getting the next I phone 6S 
>> plus so I am pondering!
>> 
>> Thanks Scott for remarking on my adventure it was crazy wasn't it but no 
>> worries, I was just saying.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 13:41, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone else install IOS 9 and what are your impressions?
>> 
>> I have it running now for less than 24 hours of course.  Battery drain seems 
>> higher but I probably need a phone restart that usually clears battery 
>> issues.  I like VO saying cap and the letter now instead of uppercase or 
>> capitol, and the replacement for passbook seems easy to use.  Other than 
>> that not to many impressions yet.  What are you all experiencing?
>> 
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Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

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I, too, will be leaving if this doesn't clear up. 

To limit the discussion to Mac OS X is ridiculous. 

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> On 16 Sep 2015, at 9:57 pm, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> Can you please give me the irk for these lists?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 1:54 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm gonna wait until Cara and Mark make their final judgements. I posted my 
>> opinions in another thread so I won't post them again, but I will say that 
>> if this list develops the strict rule that we can only talk about the Mac, 
>> then sorry to say, I'll be doing the same as others have and or will do and 
>> take my talents elsewhere. I'm subscribed to three other lists that let 
>> people talk about Mac and iPhone in one list, one list, Peel The Apple, has 
>> an off topic weekend where people can talk about anything, Windows, Android, 
>> even Jaws. The other two are Joseph Hudson's Blind Apples list and John P's 
>> Mac For The Blind list. So as you can see I have a lot of resources at my 
>> disposal. One more thing, the sad day will be when I do unsubscribe because 
>> I share Kawal's sentiments in that I've met a ton of awesome people and I 
>> even have some of you on Skype and social media. So it will be sad if I do 
>> unsubscribe because these past 5 years with you guys were awesome and to 
>> those of you that don't have me on Skype or social media, I'll miss you a 
>> lot.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I agree with you Scott.  This is not the sentiment of the list that I 
>>> joined 10 years ago.  I will sign off of this one.  Can be more useful 
>>> elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:15, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought the rest of the list would be interested in this response from 
>>> Mark sent off list but I think he should have responded on list.
>>> 
>>> Obviously he has no interest in what we the users have requested.  Any 
>>> idiot knows that the Apple environment is an ecosystem of devices and 
>>> software as well as content.  The Mac is a part, the iPhone is a part, pad 
>>> still another.  So instead of having one logical place to discuss the 
>>> entire ecosystem your moderator wants to have super fragmentation and then 
>>> stifle conversations that don’t deal with the Mac specifically.  We know 
>>> the VIPhone list is over run with garbage messages and badly moderated.  As 
>>> several stated they wanted a place here to discuss the entire Apple product 
>>> line and also presented was this list predates any others and as such 
>>> previously was a clearinghouse for all things Apple not just Mac.  I will 
>>> of course comply by leaving the list as I have no interest in subscribing 
>>> to yet more lists and I hope his power trip was satisfying.  Mark, your 
>>> users don’t want this so why enforce something that doesn’t make sense and 
>>> doesn’t meet the needs of the many users who have spoken up?
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: "M. Taylor" 
 Subject: To Scott from Mark: Off-List:  RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?
 Date: September 15, 2015 at 2:09:33 PM EDT
 To: 
 Reply-To: 
 
 Hello Scott,
 
 As stated in the subject, I am replying to you, off-list.  I would have 
 appreciated the same courtesy.
 
 While I appreciate your sentiment on this, the bottom line is that this 
 list is dedicated to Mac OSX products and services only.  
 
 So I ask you to please respect this policy and close this thread.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:02 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?
 
 This is bogus.
 
 I absolutely ask you to reconsider.  Apple devices should be on topic.  
 Non apple devices should be on topic as long as the topic involves 
 interoperation with Apple devices or comparisons of Apple devices to that 
 product.
 
 This list should allow the watch as well and support all Apple products.  
 There may be an iPhone list and that’s all well and good but a lot of us 
 don’t want to bother with more than one list
 
 On Sep 15, 2015, at 4:15 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 As this is not an iOS forum, I ask that this topic be taken off-list.
 
 Thank you for 

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

[sadam . lists]

Glad you agree. :) 

There are many intelligent people on this list who know great deal about both 
platforms. 

It would be nice to get their opinions and viewpoints relating to both 
operating systems. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:35 am, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> In total agreement with you on that.
>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 2:52 PM, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Apples products and services are all interconnected. 
>> 
>> To limit the discussion to Mac OS X would be very shortsighted. 
>> 
>> Just my two cents. 
>> 
>> Kind regards, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
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>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2015, at 4:39 am, David Tanner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps the AppleVis list might be more open to discussion of all Apple 
>>> products.
>>> 
>>> Clearly the mod of this list is determined to rid the list of iOS 
>>> altogether. 
>>> 
>>> David Tanner
>>> 
>>> From my iPhone 6 
>>> 
 On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'd just like to add my +1 here.  these products are so interconnected 
 that to limit the list in that way would make for a much less useful list.
 Best,
 Donna
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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> Hi Mark,
> 
> I respectfully disagree.  It has been stated in the past that 
> MacVisionaries is an "Everything Apple" list where we can discuss just 
> that, MacOS, iOS, Apple hardware etc.  As the line between the MacOS, the 
> iOS and its related hardware continually fades, I feel that it is very 
> beneficial to be able to discuss a wider range of Apple hardware/software 
> as it relates to accessibility on this list.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 02:15, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As this is not an iOS forum, I ask that this topic be taken off-list.
> 
> Thank you for understanding.
> 
> Mark
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Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

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Apples products and services are all interconnected. 

To limit the discussion to Mac OS X would be very shortsighted. 

Just my two cents. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 16 Sep 2015, at 4:39 am, David Tanner  wrote:
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> Perhaps the AppleVis list might be more open to discussion of all Apple 
> products.
> 
> Clearly the mod of this list is determined to rid the list of iOS altogether. 
> 
> David Tanner
> 
> From my iPhone 6 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'd just like to add my +1 here.  these products are so interconnected that 
>> to limit the list in that way would make for a much less useful list.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> I respectfully disagree.  It has been stated in the past that 
>>> MacVisionaries is an "Everything Apple" list where we can discuss just 
>>> that, MacOS, iOS, Apple hardware etc.  As the line between the MacOS, the 
>>> iOS and its related hardware continually fades, I feel that it is very 
>>> beneficial to be able to discuss a wider range of Apple hardware/software 
>>> as it relates to accessibility on this list.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 02:15, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As this is not an iOS forum, I ask that this topic be taken off-list.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for understanding.
>>> 
>>> Mark
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Re: iPhone 6S?

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They can always find some way of improving the phone. 

Remember this device generated $102 billion last quarter. 

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> On 14 Sep 2015, at 11:00 pm, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know what they can do on the hardware side.  This version is a pretty 
> complete device.  The software has possibilities but you don’t need to sell 
> new hardware for that.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Agree, good uppgrade. Where do we go from here? Still many roads to walk. An 
>> iPhone car on battery completely accessible with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 14. sep. 2015 kl. 14:48 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> I really don’t see what they will add after this.  The phone has every thing 
>> now.  A really solid radio finally that works on all the networks fully, a 
>> nice high end camera, fast 64 bit processor, NFC, where do they go from here?
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, you'll have to let us know what you think!
>>> Donna
 On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:21 AM, george b  wrote:
 
 Ah,
 
 I got it, so I think it is awesome and I already ordered a 6s plus
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 06:57
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iPhone 6S?
 
 Well, that's certainly true.  I just wondered what the take-aways were 
 from thursday's event.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> We really won’t know anything until people actually get their hands on it 
> on the 25th. There are hands-on articles, but those don’t give any 
> indication of how voiceover will work with 3D Touch, naturally.
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any 
>> worthwhile developments?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: iPhone 6S?

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Not sure what they can add to iOS as well. 

Next year will be interesting. 

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> On 14 Sep 2015, at 11:09 pm, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> I’m sure they will I’m just trying to think what they will add.  It’s not 
> like I can think of new features the phone needs.:)  There will always be 
> faster processors ok there’s one, faster networking, there’s 2, then it thins 
> out quick.  What would I add that the phone needs that it doesn’t have?  Not 
> much I can think of.
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 9:02 AM, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> They can always find some way of improving the phone. 
>> 
>> Remember this device generated $102 billion last quarter. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
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>> 
>>> On 14 Sep 2015, at 11:00 pm, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t know what they can do on the hardware side.  This version is a 
>>> pretty complete device.  The software has possibilities but you don’t need 
>>> to sell new hardware for that.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 14, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Terje Strømberg  
 wrote:
 
 Agree, good uppgrade. Where do we go from here? Still many roads to walk. 
 An iPhone car on battery completely accessible with Voice Over?
 
 Take care
 
 14. sep. 2015 kl. 14:48 skrev Scott Granados :
 
 I really don’t see what they will add after this.  The phone has every 
 thing now.  A really solid radio finally that works on all the networks 
 fully, a nice high end camera, fast 64 bit processor, NFC, where do they 
 go from here?
 
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Well, you'll have to let us know what you think!
> Donna
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:21 AM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah,
>> 
>> I got it, so I think it is awesome and I already ordered a 6s plus
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 06:57
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 6S?
>> 
>> Well, that's certainly true.  I just wondered what the take-aways were 
>> from thursday's event.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> We really won’t know anything until people actually get their hands on 
>>> it on the 25th. There are hands-on articles, but those don’t give any 
>>> indication of how voiceover will work with 3D Touch, naturally.
>>> 
 On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any 
 worthwhile developments?
 Cheers,
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Re: 3 D touch.

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Can't wait to order my 6s. 

With the faster camera, faster processor, and 3 D touch it's going to be a good 
update. 

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> Oh wow, that sounds beyond amazing; wish I had the cash to afford those.
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 6:52 PM, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-iphone-news/apple-confirms-peek-and-pop-features-new-iphone-6s-will-be-accessible
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3 D touch.

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http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-iphone-news/apple-confirms-peek-and-pop-features-new-iphone-6s-will-be-accessible

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Re: windows 10

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Apple has updated the Boot Camp drivers to work with windows 10. 

No problems on my machine. 

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>> On 9/1/15, jeff `greene  wrote:
>> Hi, Well, I've got the old "get windows 10" message on my windows 7
>> bootcamp task bar. Was wondering if anybody has installed this under
>> bootcamp with apple's new drivers? Any problems? I know screen reader
>> access is a little iffy but was wondering if there were any driver
>> issues etc.
>> Thanks, Jeff
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IPhone 6 for sale.

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The device is 64GB and comes with AppleCare Plus. 

Write to 

sadamahmed1...@gmail.com for all querys. 

Do note I'm in Australia. 

Thanks for any interest. 

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Re: Chrome

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Glad you got it.

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 I’m not able to download Chrome for Mac. All I get on the downloadlink is a 
 blank page in Safari on Yosemite 10.10.4 and Safari 8.0.8.. 
 
 Could someone provide me with a download link from a personal Dropbox or so? 
 I tried it for weeks again and again. It’s not possible to download Chrome.
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 29.08.2015 um 00:01 schrieb sadam.li...@gmail.com:
 
 Google Chrome works well on the Mac. 
 
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 Is the Chrome browser voiceOver Accessible?
 
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Re: What devices support handoff?

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Hi, 

It looks like it does support handoff. 

The official list is below. 

https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204689. 

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 I have an iPhone 5.
 
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Re: Chrome

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Google Chrome works well on the Mac. 

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Re: Office 2016?

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2016. It's still rather clunky for my taste.

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 wrote:
 
 Wait a second.  You're saying the accessibility isn't any good in 2016, or 
 are you saying in 2011.  I'm a little confused.
 
 Chris.
 
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: Office 2016?
 
 
 Don't bother. The accessibility has regressed majorly.
 
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 On 28 Aug 2015, at 9:22 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks man. So under the  installation they don't have 2011 for the mac?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 OK, so I just called Microsoft for you to ask about this, as I was actually 
 curious myself.
 
 So, here's the deal.  Office 2016 for the mac is available, yes, not even 
 as the public preview.  It's out, but! hold on!  there is a little small 
 catch. It is out, yes, but right now, it's only available to Office 365 
 subscribers.  Not to official non-365 subscribers who just want it as is, 
 full fledged.  However, on the plus side of this, it is apparently supposed 
 to be fully released without the need for Office 365 come next month.
 
 Once this is done, they will also then be releasing Office 2016 for Windows 
 for both 365 members as well as non-365 full fledged users.
 
 Please realize that none of what I am saying here breaks any NDA.  I'm 
 telling you exactly what I was directly told by a Microsoft sales agent 
 named Hermon.
 
 If you want to get either of the versions out now of Microsoft Office for a 
 mac, or a Windows PC, then here's what you need to do.
 
 First off, be sure you're subscribed to Office 365.  You can do this through
 
 http://www.office.com
 
 Once you have done this, go back to the above link, and sign in with your 
 Microsoft passport.
 
 Once in, click on the link for my account.
 
 I think a more direct link actually is:
 
 http://account.office.com
 
 It might be
 
 http://myaccount.office.com
 
 It's one of the two, I just don't recall which.
 
 Once you're at this page and logged in, you  should see a section for 
 installation.  If you look under here, you'll see the option to download 
 either of these installers, for the mac, or for a PC.  Pick the one you 
 want, download it, and install it by running the installer.  Then, make 
 sure during the installer that you sign in with your Microsoft passport if 
 asked to do so.  It's been a while since I've needed to install, so I don't 
 recall exactly what that process is, but I know it's very very straight 
 forward.
 
 Once done, you're good to go.
 
 As for the accessibility, I've not used it in a while, but I did try one of 
 the older public previews, and for what it was worth, yes, there were some 
 major issues, but for the most part, unless you were doing really really 
 really heavy editting, it worked quite well.  Even MS Word finally has been 
 fixed where now you can read the document window.  Remember that this was 
 quite a few preview builds back though, so I'd honestly give it a shot.  I 
 think you'll be at least somewhat, if not very impressed.
 
 Chris.
 
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 Is ms office 2016 for the mac out yet? If so is it accessible?
 
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Re: Moderator Note - Important -was- Re: So is this list going to die or not?

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Very well put. 

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 On 27 Aug 2015, at 9:38 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I wasn’t going to chime in here but that was very well said.
 Thanks.
 /A
 27 aug. 2015 kl. 01:11 skrev Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com:
 
 Hello All,
 
 firstly, this list is not going to die.
 
 Now, to be completely frank and honest with you all. I have been in the 
 hospital for days now, visiting with a very dear one to me, who is passing 
 away.
 
 So honestly, I cannot address any of these matters right now.
 
 The fact is, you are all adults and you know enough to ignore posts or 
 posters who simply want (for whatever reason) to incite or stir the pot so 
 to speak.
 
 So if there is a message you do not wish to read, or do not agree with, just 
 delete it and move on. This is the adult thing to do.
 
 Neither a list owner or moderator are magic people who make everything 
 alright. Yes, we can ban people, etc, but in the end, this comes down to you 
 all managing yourselves in a way which you all are proud of.
 
 that is what makes this list worth something.
 
 So if you feel this list is a resource you wish to preserve and help to 
 grow, as you have been doing now for years, then just simply act in 
 accordance with those beliefs which you know to be right and the rest will 
 follow.
 
 I promise you, I will address this more fully when I can. I am sure (or at 
 least would hope) that in light of these circumstances, that you would 
 understand.
 
 My sincerest apologies that there have been issues of late. Some of these 
 are actually being dealt with already, in the background, but the fact that 
 this topic exists says that you need more.
 
 I will do more as soon as I can.
 
 For now, please use your own good judgement and simply act as you know you 
 should, and this list will be the kind and helping place that it has been.
 
 Thank you all for reading this and I will be in touch again soon.
 
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 Just wondering after reading all the messages of whether this list should be 
 or not be, is this list going to continue or is it going to die?
 
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Re: Office 2016?

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Don't bother. The accessibility has regressed majorly. 

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 On 28 Aug 2015, at 9:22 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks man. So under the  installation they don't have 2011 for the mac?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 OK, so I just called Microsoft for you to ask about this, as I was actually 
 curious myself.
 
 So, here's the deal.  Office 2016 for the mac is available, yes, not even as 
 the public preview.  It's out, but! hold on!  there is a little small catch. 
 It is out, yes, but right now, it's only available to Office 365 
 subscribers.  Not to official non-365 subscribers who just want it as is, 
 full fledged.  However, on the plus side of this, it is apparently supposed 
 to be fully released without the need for Office 365 come next month.
 
 Once this is done, they will also then be releasing Office 2016 for Windows 
 for both 365 members as well as non-365 full fledged users.
 
 Please realize that none of what I am saying here breaks any NDA.  I'm 
 telling you exactly what I was directly told by a Microsoft sales agent 
 named Hermon.
 
 If you want to get either of the versions out now of Microsoft Office for a 
 mac, or a Windows PC, then here's what you need to do.
 
 First off, be sure you're subscribed to Office 365.  You can do this through
 
 http://www.office.com
 
 Once you have done this, go back to the above link, and sign in with your 
 Microsoft passport.
 
 Once in, click on the link for my account.
 
 I think a more direct link actually is:
 
 http://account.office.com
 
 It might be
 
 http://myaccount.office.com
 
 It's one of the two, I just don't recall which.
 
 Once you're at this page and logged in, you  should see a section for 
 installation.  If you look under here, you'll see the option to download 
 either of these installers, for the mac, or for a PC.  Pick the one you 
 want, download it, and install it by running the installer.  Then, make sure 
 during the installer that you sign in with your Microsoft passport if asked 
 to do so.  It's been a while since I've needed to install, so I don't recall 
 exactly what that process is, but I know it's very very straight forward.
 
 Once done, you're good to go.
 
 As for the accessibility, I've not used it in a while, but I did try one of 
 the older public previews, and for what it was worth, yes, there were some 
 major issues, but for the most part, unless you were doing really really 
 really heavy editting, it worked quite well.  Even MS Word finally has been 
 fixed where now you can read the document window.  Remember that this was 
 quite a few preview builds back though, so I'd honestly give it a shot.  I 
 think you'll be at least somewhat, if not very impressed.
 
 Chris.
 
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 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Office 2016?
 
 
 Is ms office 2016 for the mac out yet? If so is it accessible?
 
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Re: Growl.

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Thanks Shawn, I'll make contact later. 

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 On 23 Aug 2015, at 1:45 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Sadam. Call me on Skype today and I'll be able to help you there.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 22, 2015, at 2:28 AM, Sadam Ahmed sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All, 
 
 Have downloaded the above app. 
 
 Does the program have to be open so I can get push notifications from 
 Trillian or other events? 
 
 Can’t seem to get into the status menu using VO. 
 
 Your help is appreciated. 
 
 With Best regards, 
 
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Re: tw blue

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Night owl works well for my needs. 

Too bad chicken nugget doesn't work for me. 

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 Hi, You know i wish that they’d not stopped the development of the Mac 
 version of TWBlue, i kinda liked the client even if the windowless interface 
 features didn’t work, but hey i guess it’s like that and we have to sorta 
 move on.
 /Krister
 
 
 On 17 Aug 2015, at 12:40, Sadam Ahmed wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Try this link.
 
 http://twblue.com.mx/index.en.html
 
 
 Do let me know if it works.
 
 When I tried it from my end I got a Page not displayed error.
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 
 On 8/17/2015 6:44 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hello, do you have a page where I can get this app for window's?   I tried 
 googleing it and seemed to get a load of nonsense thanks in advance.
 
 On 17/08/2015 02:46, May McDonald wrote:
 lol, there's always something wrong in regards to night owl. 'm always 
 checking to see if other twitter clients come out that will work on the 
 mac. I only asked about tw blue because it's the latest to get rid of the 
 140 char limit.
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2015, at 8:01 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey May. Unfortunately the developer stopped making TW Blue for the Mac 
 so there's no way to download it. Is there something wrong with Night Owl 
 that you need TW Blue?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 16, 2015, at 6:27 PM, May McDonald m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:
 
 Hey, does anyone know if tw blue twitter client is or will work on the 
 mac as well? If it does where can I get it?
 
 May and LD Luna Moon!
 www.canadianlynx.ca
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Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.

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Hi, 

This won't work for Fusion. 

Only if you're running Windows through BootCamp. 

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 hello I am using the latest thanks 
hello I am using the latest version thanks
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:38 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.
 
 What version of Fusion are you using?
 
 Shawn
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 On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:10 AM, wayne coles wayne...@gmail.com wrote:
 
hello will that work with fusion only when I tried to download win10 it 
 said some drivers where not supported so is that apple or vm fusion thanks 
 in advance
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
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 Subject: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.
 
 Greetings all,
 
 For those of you who updated to Windows 10 and found some hardware 
 features not working. Apple has released BootCamp version 6.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
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Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.

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No worries. 

Happy to help. 

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 Hi,   this is good news,  I don't have boot camp on this mac mini well I do I 
 just didn't install window's that way I made another partition and just 
 installed window's10 it worked with a bit of carrying on at first but works 
 well enough now but I do have the air and this thing is boot camped. thanks 
 for yr help.
 
 On 13/08/2015 22:34, Sadam Ahmed wrote:
 After booting into your current install of Windows, type Apple software
 update into the search box.
 
 From there it's pretty standard.
 
 I can confirm that the FN key now works as expected.
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 On 8/13/2015 9:19 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi, sorry to ask do we just go into software update and get this from
 the app store? if not please let me know how to get this with thanks.
 
 On 13/08/2015 12:12, Sadam Ahmed wrote:
 Greetings all,
 
 For those of you who updated to Windows 10 and found some hardware
 features not working. Apple has released BootCamp version 6.
 
 Kind regards,
 
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Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.

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First get Windows 10. Then get drivers from Apple software update. 

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 wrote:
 
 Quick question.
 
 I've actually not updated just quite yet from Win7 to Win 10 on my mac, just 
 because I didn't want to get myself into a situation where hardware wouldn't 
 correctly work.  So, should I first go in and run the Apple Software Update, 
 or should I first update to windows 10, then! run it?
 
 Or, does it really matter?
 
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 - Original Message - From: Sadam Ahmed sadam.li...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:34 PM
 Subject: Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.
 
 
 After booting into your current install of Windows, type Apple software 
 update into the search box.
 
 From there it's pretty standard.
 
 I can confirm that the FN key now works as expected.
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 On 8/13/2015 9:19 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi, sorry to ask do we just go into software update and get this from the 
 app store? if not please let me know how to get this with thanks.
 
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 Greetings all,
 
 For those of you who updated to Windows 10 and found some hardware
 features not working. Apple has released BootCamp version 6.
 
 Kind regards,
 
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Re: BootCamp drivers for Windows 10 now available.

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Possibly. You can always try Apple support page and manually download it. 

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 Hi,   I tried yr suggestion,   I got apple updater or something like this 
 desktop app,   I clicked on it and the only update I saw was quick time maybe 
 not relieced over in the UK yet?
 
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 Happy to help.
 
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Re: Learning the mac

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It's a free iBook. 

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 On 8 Aug 2015, at 4:19 pm, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 how much does the book cost?
 
 On 8/7/2015 10:22 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 There's a book, Mastering the Mac with VoiceOver, on iBooks that many 
 people like. Plus, AppleVis offers a page of resources:
 http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac
 That page includes a lot of things, among them a series of podcasts 
 detailing the basics of VoiceOver, guides for switchers from Windows, and 
 plenty more. Finally,
 www.macfortheblind.com
 offers a lot of good podcasts and other content. There are more, I'm sure, 
 but those come to mind straight away. Don't forget that Apple stores often 
 provide one-on-one training if you want to look into that and are close 
 enough to such a store. You can also call the accessibility phone number if 
 you have specific questions that we can't answer here.
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 are there any ebooks, podcasts ect. that a person can use to learn the 
 mac?
 
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Re: Learning the mac

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Here's the link. 

Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver by Tim Sniffen
https://itun.es/au/JTkM1.l 

You do you do need an Apple ID. 

Not sure about converting the book to text as I haven't done that before. 

Perhaps someone else can help you out with that question. 

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 where would i go to get it? and do you need an apple id to get it? also can 
 an ibook be converted to text?
 
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 It's a free iBook.
 
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Re: Keyboard on new 12 MacBook

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I also don't like the new connector. 

I regularly connect hard drives another peripherals to my MacBook Pro. 

So this computer doesn't work for me. 

It is a shame as the form factor is perfect for travelling between uni and 
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 Hi Matt/Alex,
 
 Thanks for the input (pardon the pun). I had hoped I was being too
 negative about the keyboard on the MacBook and maybe it was just me.
 
 As Alex says not something worth a thousand-plus of your currency of
 choice experiment if it proves to be difficult  long term.
 
 A real shame,  the machine is a perfect fit for my business travel
 needs. I'll have another play at an Apple Store but will try to leave
 the rose-coloured virtual glasses at home.
 
 Regards
 Garry
 
 On 8/6/15, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 That was my initial impression as well; the keys are nice and big, but you
 can't feel the edges. Perhaps with some reference dots it'd be doable, but
 I'm not sure. My first thought was something like, I could love this
 keyboard if only I could feel the keys better. I'm sure it looks visually
 wonderful, and the new key design lets users press anywhere on the key so
 that it made less sense to markedly separate them. It just kills touch
 typing, at least in my quick tests. I can't give a fair statement, of
 course, without having used it for a week or two, and unless someone wants
 to donate $1200 to me, that won't happen anytime soon. smile
 On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Gary,
 I've seen the new 12 inch macbook, I've typed on it for a long period of
 time, and I didn't like the experience too much. I too had trouble
 locating th
 God bless.e keys, and found that I still had to stop and count keys as
 they were too close together.
 
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
 U.S. number: 573-401-1018
 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
 
 On Aug 6, 2015, at 13:57, Garry Turkington gat.acc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Has anyone spent  time with the new 12 MacBook? If so how are you
 finding the keyboard?
 
 Playing with one in the Apple Store I found it really difficult to use
 -- the keys are a good size but there is very little space between
 them and I was finding it actually a little hard to always  detect the
 key edges when typing and in particularly when sliding across the
 keyboard. I think the keys are also quite flat so even the transition
 between bottom row of keys/space bar/top of trackpad tripped me up a
 few times.
 
 I am quite tall so standing at the  table in the store was a really
 odd typing angle so maybe that was it but curious if anyone else who
 relies on touch typing -- more than sighted users has had similar or
 different experiences?
 
 It's a  shame because I love the form factor of that thing. :)
 
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Re: OS X beta.

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Exactly. 

If I was asking about features like VO etc I might be possibly breaking this so 
called NDA. 

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 I have to say in this particular case, I agree with Sadam.  It's not like 
 he's asking for specifics.  He just wanted a general yes, or no.
  
 I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, admittedly, this is kind 
 of a grey area, as what one may think is unstable, someone else may not 
 really be as concerned about.
  
 Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to install, for what it's 
 worth.
  
 Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're to the point of being 
 debilitating.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Sadam Ahmed
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM
 Subject: Re: OS X beta.
 
 So, where in my message am I going into specifics? 
 
 Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there are a couple of issues. 
 That would suffice. 
 
 With Best regards, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Diploma of International Business candidate 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 Blog: 
 
 Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 
 
 Sent using OS X Mail 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 6 Aug 2015, at 9:30 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 With respect, I disagree.  You did ask for something to specific to discuss 
 with you either privately or otherwise.  To ask how stable a beta OS is 
 something that touches on a degree of specifity which is not something I for 
 one am willing to go in to.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:39 AM, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ray, 
 
 I'm not asking for specifics. 
 
 Only gauging the suitability of putting this on my Mac. 
 
 The question was quite broad. 
 
 Don't think it breaks NDA. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 
 
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 On 6 Aug 2015, at 7:23 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Let me gentally remind you that we cannot discuss beta findings here.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:40 AM, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, 
 
 I would like to install the current beta and am wondering how stable the 
 current release is? 
 
 If you would like to make contact off the list regarding this feel free 
 to reach out. 
 
 Thanks in advance, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
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Re: OS X beta.

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Ray, 

I'm not asking for specifics. 

Only gauging the suitability of putting this on my Mac. 

The question was quite broad. 

Don't think it breaks NDA. 

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 Let me gentally remind you that we cannot discuss beta findings here.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
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 Hi all, 
 
 I would like to install the current beta and am wondering how stable the 
 current release is? 
 
 If you would like to make contact off the list regarding this feel free to 
 reach out. 
 
 Thanks in advance, 
 
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 Sent from my iPhone 
 
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OS X beta.

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Hi all, 

I would like to install the current beta and am wondering how stable the 
current release is? 

If you would like to make contact off the list regarding this feel free to 
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Re: after upgqading to win10 in bootcamp, here's what happened!

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Yep. I have the same problem. I'm guessing the Boot Camp drivers have to be 
updated. 

Rerunning the installation doesn't help. 

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 anyone have this issue? my fn keys don't work. it's as if it doesn't exist. 
 whereas in win7, they worked fine! and yes, the option in bootcamp prefs is 
 checked to use all f keys as soft5 function keys, just like it was in 7. I 
 don't know if redownloading bootcamp setup files will work, guess I could 
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Re: after upgqading to win10 in bootcamp, here's what happened!

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Just sit tight and wait for Apple to update drivers. Alternatively you could 
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 good to know. then i won't waste my time redownloading the setup.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Yep. I have the same problem. I'm guessing the Boot Camp drivers have to be 
 updated. 
 
 Rerunning the installation doesn't help. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 
 
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Re: word count in text edit

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 You can find and download the script from this website.
 
 On 31 Jul 2015, at 2:10 pm, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jim, 
 
 Is this app available from the Mac App Store? 
 
 Thanks, 
 
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 If you look for an app called word service it will let you install several 
 services that work with many applications and one of them is a word count 
 service.  Also sorting is another handy service that I use quite a bit.
 Jim
 
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 Is there a way to get a word count for files in text edit? I've looked in 
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Re: word count in text edit

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Hi Jim, 

Is this app available from the Mac App Store? 

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Re: best word processor for mac and voiceover.

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No. It's a paid app. 

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 Is Scrivener free?
 
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 On Jul 30, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Scrivener is an excellent drafting app. It is more suited to writing large 
 documents like books etc. because it lets you outline and then fill in the 
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 no what i mean is for someone who is in the process of writing a book which 
 word processor would be the best to use on a mac?
 
 
 On 7/30/2015 9:59 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
 I'd think iBooks Author would be good for that.
 
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 What about features for writers? meaning making books and the like if you 
 want to become an author?
 
 On 7/30/2015 7:14 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
 It depends on what you need. Advanced formatting, the ability to insert 
 footers, all that? Pages is your cheapest bet. Something more basic, 
 including fonts, links, and other rich text features (but not the 
 advanced options of Pages), and Text Edit will do just fine. The latter 
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 On Jul 30, 2015, at 2:05 AM, Sadam Ahmed sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 
 For my research papers I use Nisus writer Pro available from 
 
 http://nisus.com/pro/ 
 
 Pages is an option as well. 
 
 Thank you,
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Diploma of International Business candidate 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 Blog: 
 
 Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 
 
 Sent using OS X Mail 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 I am looking for the best word processor for the mac that works with 
 voiceover. does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 On 7/29/2015 11:53 PM, Brandon A. Olivares wrote:
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 I’m looking for a good notes app. Preferably something I can use both 
 on the Mac and iPhone. I’d like something where I can group things 
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Facebook sounds.

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Hi all, 

As of a few updates I'm not receiving sounds related to Facebook events. 

These came through fine before updating. 

Have adjusted sound settings in the app but has made no difference. 

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Re: OS X bugs to test for in 10.11?

[sadam . lists]

Although I'm not running the beta. I believe the feedback assistant is still 
available. 

Glad I decided to stay away from running this on my primary system. 

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 On 27 Jul 2015, at 2:44 am, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I don’t see any discussions for voiceover in the developpers forum.
 So i wonder if one could mail the accessibility team for these purposes.
 /A
 25 juli 2015 kl. 01:52 skrev matthew dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi,
 
 There are some audio problems  that need to be fixed.  Speech cuts off for 
 no reason  at all.  There are also some mail problems with vo that need to 
 be worked out as well.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 
 On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:13 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Even a better one when starting the mbp on the log in screen when you 
 interact with users and interact with your account, voice over tells you 
 again your on a table and need to interact with the user in the tqable when 
 you are actually in the password edit field and that is what it should 
 read.  This just started in mt. capitan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcia Yale
 Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 14:00
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: OS X bugs to test for in 10.11?
 
 It would be nice if the cursor would land at the top of the inbox in Mail 
 again, rather than at the bottom. If anyone knows of a fix for this 
 annoyance, I'm interested. I know it's not difficult to interact with the 
 messages, hit fn-shift-VO-left-arrow, but there was no need to do this a 
 few OS's ago.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 11:30 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: OS X bugs to test for in 10.11?
 
 Report an issue where in system preferences, under the sound category, 
 VoiceOver automatically selects the tab your focused on, without you having 
 to press VO+space. This makes it rather difficult to navigate a tab, 
 especially if it’s not the tab you intended to stop on.
 On Jul 11, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm willing to do the same.  If you find something, let me know, and I'll 
 test it, and if I can reproduce, I'll file it, but again, I won't be 
 discussing its outcome, I'm sorry.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 10:53 PM
 Subject: OS X bugs to test for in 10.11?
 
 
 Hello list,
 Like some of you, I'm now testing 10.11. I'll not be discussing it, due to 
 the NDA, but I want to test as much as I can. Please let me know what bugs 
 you're experiencing so I can  confirm them; if they're fixed, great, but 
 if not, I want to tell Apple as soon as I can. I know about the bug list 
 AppleVis keeps, but there's no guarantee we have every bug on there. Note 
 that I can't test foreign language or braille display bugs, and remember 
 that I won't be reporting back on the status of anything you send. Thanks!
 
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Re: Installing the OS X beta on a secondary partition.

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Thanks for this Mark. Most helpful.

All the best, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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 On 25 Jul 2015, at 11:15 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Sadam,
 
 There are many ways to accomplish your goal.
 
 I will simply give you the broad strokes that I personally use and that 
 hopefully you find useful.
 
 1.
 Either create a new partition on your existing internal hard drive or, and 
 this is what I would recommend, purchase an external USB 2.0, 3.0, or Apple 
 Thunderbolt drive with plenty of disk space.  Understand that I am not 
 referring to a USB Thumb drive/key but an actual external hard drive.  
 
 2.
 Clone your existing primary boot-up partition using a third-party 
 application.  I strongly recommend Super Duper.  Doing this will allow you to 
 boot up from either partition be it on your original internal partition or 
 any secondary/external partition.  Note, it is best to give each partition a 
 very distinguishable name so as not to become confused when making the 
 Startup disk selection. 
 
 3.
 Making certain you have booted-up and are using the partition to which you 
 wish to install a beta, in Safari, go to http://beta.apple.com and follow the 
 prompts.
 
 Good Luck,
 
 Mark
 
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Installing the OS X beta on a secondary partition.
 
 Greetings to all, 
 
 I would like to install the currnet OS X beta on a secondary partition. 
 
 If someone could provide the steps on how to accomplish this it would be 
 greatly appreciated. 
 
 Thanks and kindest regards,  
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Diploma of International Business candidate 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 Blog: 
 
 Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 
 
 Sent using OS X Mail 
 
 
 
 
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Re: not getting all of my emails

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My mistake. Thanks for picking that up. 

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 On 23 Jul 2015, at 11:59 pm, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 The imap port is 993 not 995, which is for a pop setting. HTH. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Sadam Ahmed sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rebecca, 
 
 It sounds like something isn’t right with the username or password. 
 
 Click on Windows menu  connection-doctor and verify the settings there. 
 
 In particular you should check the Imap port and ensure that the port is set 
 to 995. 
 
 Hope this helps. 
 
 Best regards, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Diploma of International Business candidate 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 Blog: 
 
 Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 
 
 Sent using OS X Mail 
 
 
 
 
 On 23 Jul 2015, at 11:10 pm, Rebecca A Sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am looking at my emails on my mack this morning.  I do not have all of my 
 emails that I have on my iPhone?  Am I doing something wrong or why art 
 they all looking the same ?
 Becky Sabo 
 
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