Re: IOS 9 siri voices now available

[sadamahmed1992]

Exactly, no need to be unpleasant. 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 10 Jun 2015, at 10:27 am, The Believer  wrote:
> 
>   Is there a reason to not be respectful of one's opinion? Can we not 
> disagree on points without being childish and disagreeable? It serves no 
> purpose to take pot shots at anyone.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
>   By way of the Chariots of the
> Gods cameth the Aliens who
> dwelt amongst the humans,
> and bringeth much knowledge.
> 
>> On 6/9/2015 4:27 PM, Shaf wrote:
>> Or better yet, accept the right to the free flow of information.
>> 
>>> On 6/9/2015 11:58 PM, BBS wrote:
>>> Hi Yuma. That's awesome that we can use the Siri voices in iOS 9. I
>>> hope some time in El Capitan they let us use those voices on there
>>> too. And guys, sorry but I'm gonna have to take Yuma's side with this
>>> one too. A friend of mine posted the news on Twitter last night so I
>>> heard it long before Yuma posted this information. So if you want to
>>> blame something, blame the people that posted it on Twitter.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White Macbook
>>> - Original Message - From: "Yuma Decaux" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 11:42 AM
>>> Subject: IOS 9 siri voices now available
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Just to let you know that Siri voices are now available to use as
>>> standard voice over too. This is cool as it normalises the experience
>>> between asking siri stuff and voice over. Or let’s say voice over is
>>> now siri :)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
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Re: el capitan

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi Ricardo, 

Thanks for confirming. 

Looking forward to downloading. 

Regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:58 am, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> They will be available in the public beta program in July.
> 
> hth
>> On Jun 8, 2015, at 6:49 PM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Is iOS 9 and the next version of OS X available to download as part of the 
>> public beta program? 
>> 
>> Totally missed the stream. 
>> 
>> It was being streamed at some disgusting time like  3 AM in Australia. 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> LinkedIn: 
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>> https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ 
>> 
>> https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/
>>  
>> 
>> Sent using OS X Mail 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:43 am, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just found something out which maybe Apple might fix. I found out that 
>>> Alex doesn't know how to say El Capitan properly lol. But getting back on 
>>> topic, glad to know that I'll be able to use it on this thing. I missed 
>>> WWDC today so did they say when the public will be able to beta test it? I 
>>> know we get the beta for iOS 9in July but what about El Capitan?
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my White MacBook
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 4:48 PM, gs  wrote:
 
 The way I understood the situation is that iOS 9 and El Capitan will work 
 on all hardware supported by iOS 8 and Yosemite.
 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
 
 Wouldn't we beta testers get permission to download the El Capitan beta 
 automatically? That's really not my main concern, my main concern is will 
 I be able to run it on my mid 2010 white MacBook? From what I heard on 
 Twitter, it sounds like El Capitan has an advanced graphics engine or 
 something like that. So is this the end of the line for me? Yosemite I 
 mean.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
> On Jun 8, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
>  wrote:
> 
> ok, thanks, i'll just have to wait to request again. :)
>> On 08 Jun 2015, at 10:28 pm, Daniel  wrote:
>> 
>> Probably so. Not a hundred percent sure.
>> 
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BlindSquare V3.00 is out.

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi all, 

Blind Square a great application for navigation on the iOS platform has 
received a significant update. 

The highlight in this release include supporting iBecons Apples implementation 
of indoor mapping. 

Here's the change log: 

NEW: BlindSquare now supports BlindSquare BPS (Beacon Positioning System), an 
indoor navigation system based on iBeacons. It is currently available at a few 
places only, but will hopefully become available at more venues soon.

NEW: 3d sounds. If you use a stereo headset with BlindSquare, you will now hear 
the alert sound played from the direction of the POI that is being announced.

NEW: BlindSquare now supports the TransitTimes+ public transport app

NEW: If you use BlindSquare on an iPhone 6 or 6plus, you can check changes in 
elevation. Based on your device’s barometer, the GPS-Info screen shows your 
elevation compared to when you started BlindSquare. There is also a button 
letting you reset your elevation to the current reading.

CHANGE: Optimized to use less memory

CHANGE: Updated Open Street Map data, more intersection information available 
in some areas now.

FIX: Resolved a timing issue in the Audio Menu that made it harder to select 
the intended item.

note: You can control BlindSquare‘s Audio Menu from your Apple watch. Start 
BlindSquare on your phone, swipe up with two fingers to bring up your glances, 
and double-tap the Pause button. Double-Tap again to activate an Audio Menu 
item. 

Best wishes. 

Sadam Ahmed 

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Re: Learning the Mac from a sighted perspective?

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Hi Alex, 

Try the following resource. 

It sounds like it might fit the bill. 

Direct link to the iBookstore for this book is: 

100 Things Every Mac User Should Know by Macworld Editors

Https://itun.es/au/V2rOz.l. 

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> On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:28 am, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Thanks to a very generous person, my (sighted) mother is finally using a Mac 
> instead of her old, dying, Vista laptop. The difference is amazing; her 
> Windows machine was so bad that, when I reminded her today she could just 
> leave a few apps open at once on the MBP, she was surprised, and asked if 
> that wouldn't lock up the Mac like it did on her other machine.
> 
> Anyway, the transition is surprisingly smooth so far. However, there are tons 
> of tricks I don't know, and/or don't even know about to research. Things like 
> split screen, moving windows around, scroll gestures, drag and drop modes and 
> commands, what icons do what, and so forth. Sure, I can tell her all the 
> keystrokes I know, and most will carry over as they aren't VO-specific, but 
> the point remains that she can do a great deal with the trackpad that I 
> can't, so I'm not the best teacher for that aspect. Does anyone know what 
> resources are out there? Perhaps a good web series, or  a book similar to 
> Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver--but for sighted users? I know this is 
> slightly off-topic, but I'm not sure where else to ask.
> 
> Thanks for any ideas. Sorry if you get this twice; I'm posting it to two Mac 
> lists I'm on.
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Re: apple mail questions

[sadamahmed1992]

Thanks Alex. 

Will send them an email outlining my concerns. 

Here's a patch release addresses this particular issue. 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 6 Jun 2015, at 1:54 am, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Yes, in Mavericks and below VoiceOver would read the filename, as I recall. 
> Certainly, in Mavericks, it would speak the name and identify it as an 
> embedded object, which was great. I've reported this bug several times to 
> Apple, but they have yet to fix it. As always, I strongly encourage anyone 
> else affected by this to let accessibil...@apple.com know about the problem, 
> and that it is impacting you negatively.
>> On Jun 5, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> That first bug mentioned is pretty bad and rather tiresome. 
>> 
>> I work with many attachments throughout the day. It would certainly increase 
>> my productivity if I could hear what those damn attachments were. 
>> 
>> In previous versions of OS X did VO announce the different file types Alex? 
>> 
>> Best wishes to all. 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed  
>> 
>>> On 6/5/2015 11:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 1. That's a Yosemite bug I keep hoping will be fixed in an incremental 
>>> update. So far, though, no luck. You could always put your cursor on the 
>>> file and use the context menu (vo-shift-m) to Quick Look it. In that window 
>>> you can see the name and content.
>>> 
>>> 2. Yes, but it's a bit tricky. Once you choose the address, interact, then 
>>> hit vo-left to get to the start. Press vo-shift-m and, if you've done it 
>>> right, you'll get a popup menu where you can edit the address, choose a 
>>> different one for that contact, and so on. The first item in that menu is 
>>> the selected email address, which you can spell with vo-w-w. If no menu 
>>> appears, you may have interacted once too many times, or you might not be 
>>> at the start of the name. As I said, it's a bit tricky.
 On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:56 AM, denise avant  wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I have a couple Apple mail with vo questions.
 1. When I attach a file, vo will only read it as an image file, rather 
 than the name of the file. Is there a way to change this?
 2. When I type in an address, sometimes, I want to make sure the e-mail 
 address is spelled correctly, but vo will only show this an image of some 
 kind. Can I read the e-mail address using vo?
 thanks.
 
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Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

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Facebook needs a dedicated Messenger client for the Mac. 

I shall try this solution when I am back at the office, but something tells me 
it's not going to work. 

Surprisingly Adium is still functioning on my computer somewhat. 

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> On 5 Jun 2015, at 2:20 am, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I believe that this can still be done from within the Internet Accounts of 
> System Preferences.  Could be mistaken, but FaceBook is still an account type 
> when setting things up there, and my FaceBook account is still showing up as 
> available from within that pane.  I have it disabled at the moment, but 
> there’s no indication that it won’t work if I was to enable it.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 4, 2015, at 09:10, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but it has been deprecated.
> 
> 
>> On 6/4/2015 4:04 PM, Traci wrote:
>> Is this the same as Facebook chat that people were looking for? Interesting 
>> article.
>> 
>> Tips & Tricks
>> Mac OS X
>> iPhone
>> iPad
>> News
>>  
>> April 25, 2015 ↔ 13 comments
>> How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App
>> 
>> Paul Horowitz
>> 
>> Share Tweet + 1 Mail
>>  Facebook Messenger is a popular means of communicating, but the Mac doesn’t 
>> have a dedicated Facebook messaging app like the iPhone or Android does… or 
>> does it!?! Indeed, you can use Facebook Messenger to message friends from OS 
>> X, and in moments you can set up the Mac Messages app to function as a 
>> Facebook Messenger client in OS X.
>> 
>> Using Facebook Messenger from the Mac is really quite simple, but it’s 
>> entirely separate from configuring Facebook sharing from the Mac, so if you 
>> have done one but not the other, you’d need to complete both to have the 
>> full Facebook functions of sharing, posting, and messaging available to you 
>> in OS X.
>> 
>> 
>> How to Add Facebook Messenger to Messages in OS X
>> 
>> This basically turns your Messages app into a full fledged Mac Facebook 
>> Messenger client, you’ll be set up in just a few seconds with these 
>> instructions:
>> 
>> Open the Messages app on the Mac if you haven’t done so yet
>> 
>> 
>> Pull down the “Messages” menu and choose “Add Account…”
>> 
>> 
>> From the message account screen, choose “Other messages account…” and click 
>> on “Continue”
>> 
>> 
>> Pull down the menu next to “Account Type” and select ‘Jabber’ from the list
>> In “Account Name” enter your Facebook account user name as follows: 
>> yourusern...@chat.facebook.com (a Facebook username is whatever your 
>> Facebook profile URL is, for example: ‘www.facebook.com/your_name_here’ the 
>> username would be “your_name_here” and the account name would then be 
>> your_name_h...@chat.facebook.com)
>> Enter your Facebook account password in the password field, this is the same 
>> one you use to login to Facebook from the web or the apps
>> 
>> 
>> Ignore all other settings and choose “Create” – this will setup Facebook 
>> messaging client and in a moment you’ll see your Facebook Friends list 
>> populate as a buddy list, complete with friend names and friend profile 
>> pictures
>> 
>> 
>> Message anyone in the list as usual, the conversations are going through 
>> Facebook Messenger
>> 
>> 
>> If you’re on a Mac, the ability to have Facebook Messenger conversations 
>> right in the Messages app of OS X is really quite nice, the conversations 
>> will appear alongside other text messages and iMessages, Google Chat, Yahoo 
>> Messenger, or AOL / AIM communications.
>> 
>> Once you have Facebook Messenger added to Messages, you will be 
>> automatically logged into Facebook Messenger when the Messages app opens. To 
>>   log out of Facebook Messenger in Messages, simply pull 
>> down the “Messages” menu item and choose “Log out of chat.facebook.com” – 
>> similarly, you can log in that way as well.
>> 
>> You can access the Facebook Friends buddy list at any time from the 
>> “Windows” menu item in Messages app, where you can also set your status to 
>> be online or offline, or away.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This certainly beats having a web browser window open to Facebook.com on a 
>> Mac, and if you have set up Facebook posts and sharing in OS X you now have 
>> much of the Facebook functionality right in OS X without having to go to the 
>> website to talk to friends, share stuff, or post status updates.
>> 
>> What if you don’t have Messages for OS X? All modern Macs should, but if 
>> you’re using an older version of Mac system software that has the iChat app 
>> instead, don’t worry, you can also use Facebook chat in iChat too. The 
>> configuration and setup process is a little bit different, but the protocol 
>> is the same as is the ability to have a full conversation with your Facebook 
>> buddies. So, whatever your version of OS X on whatever your Mac, you’ll be 
>> Facebooking. Good for you. And no, if Facebook has been blocked on the 
>> network or 

Re: PDF Pen Pro was Re: iWork accessibility on the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

Thanks all for the recommendations. 

Will download the trial of PDF Pen. 

It's AU$159 in my Mac App Store however the software wil no doubt be useful in 
the classroom. 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> 
> I agree, even though we can’t do everything that software is able to do. 
> Maybe that will change some time, who knows. But it is faster than using 
> Windows with JAWS, at least it was when I was using Windows. The OCR feature 
> is instantaneous, practically. Also, with the Pro version, you can create 
> text files, Excel files from pdf tables, and I can’t remember if there is 
> anything else. 
> 
> We can’t do this directly, but you can get a sighted Mac user to rename form 
> fields on some of these inaccessible pdf files. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Chris  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> PDF Pen Pro is awesome. I currently have the demo but plan to buy it in the 
>> future. One feature I like is the ability to automatically OCR PDF documents 
>> that are just images, usually done from a scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 02/06/2015 20:08, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> Hi there
>>> I use Pages and Numbers all the time in my business. Also, I have a program 
>>> I got called PDF Pen Pro for PDF files. You may or may not need it, but you 
>>> might want to check it out. You might want it especially if you need to 
>>> fill out pdf forms.
>>> 
>>> I haven’t seen it myself, but there is also a book on learning the Mac 
>>> published by National Braille Press. You can get it in more than one format 
>>> with them.
>>> 
>>> Gigi
>>> 
 On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 iWork is very accessible and would work for the tasks you mention. The 
 preview of MS Office, at least when it comes to Word, is a long way behind 
 iWork.
 
 However, don’t expect Pages to be like Word. It does most of the same 
 things, but in a different way.
 
 If you haven’t got it already, get the book “Mastering the Macintosh with 
 VoiceOver” by Tim Sniffen. It’s a free iBook.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
> On 2 Jun 2015, at 19:07, sadam ahmed  > wrote:
> 
> Greetings to all,
> 
> In preparation for one of my subjects called ( write complex documents) 
> I’m gaging the suitability of the iWork productivity apps.
> 
> I’ll need to insert tables, get somewhat accurate formatting information, 
> and be able to manipulate Basic spreadsheets.
> 
> Can all or some of these tasks be accomplished using Pages, Numbers, and 
> Keynote respectively?
> 
> Could I get away with using the Office Preview for the above scenarios?
> 
> Suggestions and or notions on how to proceed would be appreciated.
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Certificate IV in International Trade
> 
> Vocational College of Business
> 
> RMIT University
> 
> LinkedIn:
> 
> https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ 
> 
> 
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>  
> 
> 
> Sent using OS X Mail
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Can't Connect to Facebook with Third Party Apps on the Mac

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Shawn, 

Would certainly appreciate the info. 

Have a good one, 

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> On 1 Jun 2015, at 10:26 am, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi. I just found out from a friend of mine that he uses Jabber to connect to 
> Facebook with Adium. If he tells me how I can do this, I'll forward it along. 
> My account with Facebook might be saved after all.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2015, at 8:23 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Very sad indeed. 
>> 
>> Adium was my main communication method whilst using Facebook on the Mac. 
>> 
>> Might just have to link Facebook with Skype. 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>>> On 5/31/2015 5:58 PM, Piotr Machacz wrote:
>>> Here’s the blog post I mentioned
>>> https://adium.im/blog/2015/04/adium-1-5-11-beta-2/
>>> And the relevant part of the text, "Facebook Chat will also stop working on 
>>> April 30. We have no plans to continue support.”
>>> I guess the reason your adium is still working is that you still have a 
>>> valid authorisation token. Facebook requires apps to authorise again every 
>>> month or so, which is probably a security feature. Enjoy your adium while 
>>> it lasts. :D
 On 30 May 2015, at 18:14, sadam ahmed  wrote:
 
 I can use Adium just fine here. 
 
 Would also be interested to read the blog post that claims support for the 
 above app is going away. 
 
 When it comes to the Facebook app for the iPhone however they’ve dropped 
 the ball. 
 
 Safari with the new key combinations is the solution for me now until 
 someone at Facebook accessibility fixes the iOS app. 
 
 If anyone can suggest a truly more elegant way of accessing Facebook on 
 the Mac I’d love to hear about it. 
 
 Kind regards, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Certificate IV in International Trade 
 
 Vocational College of Business 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 LinkedIn: 
 
 https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ 
 
 https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/
  
 
 Sent using OS X Mail 
 
 
 
 
> On 30 May 2015, at 10:29 pm, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm. If that's the case, I may just have to bite the bullet and link 
> Facebook with Skype or just not use it at all if this is the direction 
> that Facebook's going. Although it's weird because my friend Zack says 
> his Adium still works. I'd like to see that blog you were talking about. 
> Could you point me to it?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 30, 2015, at 2:34 AM, Piotr Machacz  wrote:
>> 
>> The reason apps are stopping to work is caused by Facebook API changes 
>> that happened on APRIL 30th. Your existing session had expired, so this 
>> is why things don’t work. The changes are quite big, FB are really 
>> trying to push their own apps like Messenger. This can be gotten around, 
>> Miranda NG on Windows still works. On the Mac side, my Adium also died 
>> yesterday, and according to their blog they’re sadly not planning to fix 
>> this. You should try and contact trillion support and ask what’s their 
>> take on this because right now I’m using my phone for notifications, 
>> then the mobile site to reply to people which is a bit clunky.
>>> On 29 May 2015, at 04:39, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Traci. Can you use Facebook Chat with MenuTab Pro or is it only for 
>>> checking news feeds for Facebook? I tried Trillian again and it gave me 
>>> the same message that it needs permission.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my White MacBook
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 28, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
 
 No problems with MenuTab for Facebook — so far.  ;)
 
 
 On May 27, 2015, at 7:50 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
 wrote:
 
> Hey all. Subject line says it all. Let me start from the beginning 
> though. As you all know, I use an app called Trillian for Facebook. 
> Somewhere around midnight, I get a 
> message saying that Trillian needs permission to connect to Facebook. 
> So I removed it and added the account again which usually fixes the 
> problem but not this time though. It still said it needed permission. 
> I tried again just now and I got the same result. Also, a friend of 
> mine is having the same problem but he's using Adium on the Mac and 
> the SamNet Socializer on Windows. So I have a couple questions. 
> First, is anyone else on this list experiencing this issue? Secondly, 
> has Facebook stopped supporting third party apps? If so, you'd think 
> they would give us warning before terminating such support. Third, (I 
> lied 'cause I said 

Re: How to view email messages individually on the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

Thank you very much Matthew! 

Everything is working to my satisfaction now. 

You're help has been exemplary. 

Have yourself a pleasant afternoon, 

Sadam Ahmed 

LinkedIn: 

https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed 

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> On 23 May 2015, at 4:53 am, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> It will say checked, and you need to press enter to uncheck it.
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
> 
> On May 22, 2015, at 14:40, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hello Matthew, 
> 
> I just tried you’re instructions, the organise by conversation option is 
> checked but Mail still shows messages in threaded view. 
> 
> Thank you, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
> Certificate IV in International Trade 
> 
> Vocational College of Business 
> 
> RMIT University 
> 
> LinkedIn: 
> 
> https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ 
> 
> https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/
>  
> 
> Sent using OS X Mail 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 May 2015, at 4:32 am, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>> Good afternoon.
>> To view individual messages, go to the menu bar with VO M, type in view, and 
>> down arrow to "Organize by conversation".
>> HTH.
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
>> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
>> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
>> 
>> On May 22, 2015, at 14:31, sadam ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Windering if someone can help with the following quiry. 
>> 
>> I would like to view my Mail messages individually rather than in threaded 
>> conversations. 
>> 
>> This is the way I have things setup when I’m working with email  on the  
>> iPhone and find it very efficientt. 
>> 
>> How can I accomplish the same task in OS X? 
>> 
>> Version 10.10.3 and Mail 8.2 ( 2058). 
>> 
>> Any suggestions or help is appreciated. 
>> 
>> Yours respectfully, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> Certificate IV in International Trade 
>> 
>> Vocational College of Business 
>> 
>> RMIT University 
>> 
>> LinkedIn: 
>> 
>> https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ 
>> 
>> https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/
>>  
>> 
>> Sent using OS X Mail 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: How to view email messages individually on the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi Trevor, 

Totally my mistake. 

It's nearly 5 AM here in Australia. 

Definitely time to go to sleep. 

Once again  thank you for you're help. 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 23 May 2015, at 4:38 am, trevor  wrote:
> 
> If you do VO m, go over to view and uncheck where it says view as 
> conversations and that is it sorted.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Trevor
> From: sadam ahmed
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:31 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How to view email messages individually on the Mac.
>  
> Hi all, 
>  
> Windering if someone can help with the following quiry.
>  
> I would like to view my Mail messages individually rather than in threaded 
> conversations.
>  
> This is the way I have things setup when I’m working with email  on the  
> iPhone and find it very efficientt.
>  
> How can I accomplish the same task in OS X?
>  
> Version 10.10.3 and Mail 8.2 ( 2058).
>  
> Any suggestions or help is appreciated.
>  
> Yours respectfully,
>  
> Sadam Ahmed
>  
> Certificate IV in International Trade
>  
> Vocational College of Business
>  
> RMIT University
>  
> LinkedIn:
>  
> https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ 
>  
> https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/
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Re: getting started guide with veryoiceover for 10.10

[sadamahmed1992]

Grant, 

Thanks for providing Joe with the correct link! 

I guess I haven't looked closely enough when I posted my initial URL. ( Very 
observant). 

With kind regards, 

Sadam 

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> On 2 May 2015, at 4:58 pm, Grant Hardy  wrote:
> 
> The guide for OS X Yosemite may be read here: 
> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.10/
> 
> Best,
> 
> Grant
> 
>> On May 1, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I was looking for a more updated guide.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2015, at 11:07 PM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello David Tanner, 
>>> 
>>> Whilst the guide does mention 10.6. 
>>> 
>>> The Basic  concepts of how to use VO can most certainly be applied to Mac 
>>> OS X Yosemite. 
>>> 
>>> Where there's deviation between operating systems the AppleVis website can 
>>> be consulted. 
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed 
>>> 
>>> Blog: 
>>> 
>>> Http://SadamAhmed.com 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 May 2015, at 1:00 pm, David Tanner  wrote:
 
 The only problem with this guy is it is for OS 10.6 Snow Leopard and would 
 not be very current and all with new additions to voiceover since then.
 
 David Tanner
 
 From my iPhone 6 
 
> On May 1, 2015, at 8:37 PM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe, 
> 
> The following URL maybe of assistance: 
> 
> https://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/. 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
> website: 
> 
> Http://SadamAhmed.com 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 May 2015, at 11:27 am, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> I mean where you can read it on a non mac device
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> vo-h g.
>>> 
>>> On May 1, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> wht's the url for the getting started guide for using voiceover with os 
>>> x yosemite? Thanks!
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Re: getting started guide with veryoiceover for 10.10

[sadamahmed1992]

Hello David Tanner, 

Whilst the guide does mention 10.6. 

The Basic  concepts of how to use VO can most certainly be applied to Mac OS X 
Yosemite. 

Where there's deviation between operating systems the AppleVis website can be 
consulted. 

Sadam Ahmed 

Blog: 

Http://SadamAhmed.com 

Sent from my iPhone 



> On 2 May 2015, at 1:00 pm, David Tanner  wrote:
> 
> The only problem with this guy is it is for OS 10.6 Snow Leopard and would 
> not be very current and all with new additions to voiceover since then.
> 
> David Tanner
> 
> From my iPhone 6 
> 
>> On May 1, 2015, at 8:37 PM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joe, 
>> 
>> The following URL maybe of assistance: 
>> 
>> https://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/. 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> website: 
>> 
>> Http://SadamAhmed.com 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 May 2015, at 11:27 am, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I mean where you can read it on a non mac device
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 1, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
 
 vo-h g.
 
 On May 1, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
 
 
 
 wht's the url for the getting started guide for using voiceover with os x 
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Re: getting started guide with veryoiceover for 10.10

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi Joe, 

The following URL maybe of assistance: 

https://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/. 

Sadam Ahmed 

website: 

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> On 2 May 2015, at 11:27 am, Joe Quinn  wrote:
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> I mean where you can read it on a non mac device
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>> 
>> vo-h g.
>> 
>> On May 1, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> wht's the url for the getting started guide for using voiceover with os x 
>> yosemite? Thanks!
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Re: More Nisus writer questions.

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi David, 

Thanks for the precise instructions. 

I'm sure this will be of immense importance. 

Thanks once again for your exemplary support and quick response! 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 1 May 2015, at 10:19 pm, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I am presuming that you know that you get the word count by making the 
> Statistics window visible. You can make this visible by going to the window 
> menu and under palettes pressing enter on statistics.
> 
>  Then you can consult the word count at any time by bringing up the window 
> chooser and switching to the statistics window.
> When you bring up window chooser you will hear the name of your document in 
> one window and the statistics window will be labelled by the number of 
> characters in your document. However switching to this window will enable you 
> to also check words  paragraphs etc as well.
> 
> Personally` I use  Numpad commander so I can bring up the window chooser 
> simply by pressing the slash key on the numpad  so access  to the statistics  
> window is pretty slick and easy but you could also assign a keystroke to 
> window chooser in keypad commander. Perhaps option W which would be useful in 
> more applications than Nisus.
> 
> David Griffith 
> 
>> On 1 May 2015, at 02:39, sadam ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,  
>> 
>> I’ve recently invested in the purchase of Nisus writer pro for my Mac. 
>> 
>> My question is how does one get the word count using a direct VO keystroke? 
>> 
>> On the Windows side one presses F6 arrows down twice  and the word count is 
>> spoken. 
>> 
>> Another list member did suggest terminal. ) But I’d rather invoke a VO 
>> keystroke as productivity is very important when I’m writing my 
>> assignments). 
>> 
>> As usual thanks in advance for any help provided. 
>> 
>> Kind regards, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> Web: 
>> 
>> Http://SadamAhmed.com   
>> 
>> Social media: 
>> 
>> FaceBook:   
>> 
>> Http://SadamAhmed.12 
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>> Twitter: 
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Open office for the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi all, 

I am wondering how accessible the current Version  of open Office is for the 
Mac? 

Thanks in advance. 

Best wishes, 

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Re: Am I crazy or is the iPhone Facebook app totally messed up?

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi Donna, 

Sure even I found the keystrokes  useful. 

Particularly as I utilise Facebook from my Mac these days. 

I definitely concur with your opinion that they need a more consistent 
interface. 

For a couple of months the Facebook application was perfect. 

Then they changed something in the algorithm and it became totally messed up 
once again. 

Endeavor to send them feedback and see what happens in the next version when 
it's released at the end of next month. 

Warm regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 27 Apr 2015, at 2:42 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sadam,
> 
> Actually, I do think that article contained some useful info, at least for 
> me.  I didn't know about all of the keyboard shortcuts that article 
> mentioned.  It's funny though.  at that point, I strongly preferred reading 
> FB on my phone, now it's much easier to do on my Mac - not easy mind you, but 
> easier. (sigh)  I do wish they'd get their act together.  It's particularly 
> frustrating given that they broke something that previously worked just fine.
> Take care,
> Donna
>> On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:42 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> I couldn't agree with   you more.
>> 
>> The other month the AFB featured an article where the Facebook guys boasted 
>> about   how they approach accessibility.
>> 
>> It was all just talk.
>> 
>> The mobile website is you're best bet until they get this sorted out.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
>> Blog:
>> 
>> Http://SadamAhmed.com
>> 
>>> On 4/26/2015 10:30 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> thanks, Sadam.  You know, it's funny, when you click What's new when an 
>>> update is available, they proudly announce that they release updates every 
>>> four days.  Maybe they should get a release that works, and just leave well 
>>> enough alone.
>>> 
>>> I much prefer the app--or at least I used to--to the mobile site, but if 
>>> they don't get the notification thing sorted out, I may have to switch to 
>>> using that as well.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:15 AM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Facebook is definitely messed up.
 
 They keep changing the damn layout of the news feed!
 
 I tend to use
 
 M.facebook.com for now.
 
 They seriously need to get on top of this nonsense.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> as of the last to FB updates, I don't seem to be able to read anything in 
> notifications except upcoming birthdays.  I've tried tapping on all kinds 
> of stuff, but can't seem to read anything.  Other than people who've had 
> birthdays, all I see is "press two-finger double-tap to interact with 
> this story."  When I do that, my phone starts playing whatever music I 
> was last listening to.  Anyone know what on earth is up?  This is really 
> annoying!  My iPhone used to be my favorite way to read FB, but it 
> totally sucks now!
> thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Am I crazy or is the iPhone Facebook app totally messed up?

[sadamahmed1992]

Facebook is definitely messed up. 

They keep changing the damn layout of the news feed! 

I tend to use 

M.facebook.com for now. 

They seriously need to get on top of this nonsense. 

Kind regards, 

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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> as of the last to FB updates, I don't seem to be able to read anything in 
> notifications except upcoming birthdays.  I've tried tapping on all kinds of 
> stuff, but can't seem to read anything.  Other than people who've had 
> birthdays, all I see is "press two-finger double-tap to interact with this 
> story."  When I do that, my phone starts playing whatever music I was last 
> listening to.  Anyone know what on earth is up?  This is really annoying!  My 
> iPhone used to be my favorite way to read FB, but it totally sucks now!
> thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Niseis Writer Pro questions.

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Hi again Jason, 

Thanks for providing the terminal command. 

I'm wondering if there's a direct keystroke to get VO to announce the word 
count when using Nisus Writer Pro? 

Kind regards, 

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> 
> sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
>> Wondering if there’s a way of checking the  word count when using the above 
>> app? 
>> 
>> I haven’t discovered a way to get VO to announce these changes whilst using 
>> itext Express. 
>> 
>> It is quite critical that my assignments conform to the word limit set via 
>> my lecturers.
> 
> If you can save your document as a text file, run
> wc -w < filename
> from the terminal shell prompt and it will give you a word count.
> 
> These days, I write my work in Markdown format and then use Pandoc to convert
> it to HTML, PDF via LaTeX, MS-Word, ODF or whatever I want. If I want finer
> control over the presentation, I can write it in LaTeX. For OS X, you can
> install MacTeX, which is freely available from the TeX Users' Group.
> 
> Both Pandoc and LaTeX can automate the generation of citations and
> bibliographies.
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Re: Niseis Writer Pro questions.

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi Jason, 

Thank you ever so much for you're help with this query. In situations where I 
need to be precise with my word count when composing lengthy essays  this 
information will be very handy. 

Thanks once again. 

Have yourself a wonderful day! 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> 
> sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
>> Wondering if there’s a way of checking the  word count when using the above 
>> app? 
>> 
>> I haven’t discovered a way to get VO to announce these changes whilst using 
>> itext Express. 
>> 
>> It is quite critical that my assignments conform to the word limit set via 
>> my lecturers.
> 
> If you can save your document as a text file, run
> wc -w < filename
> from the terminal shell prompt and it will give you a word count.
> 
> These days, I write my work in Markdown format and then use Pandoc to convert
> it to HTML, PDF via LaTeX, MS-Word, ODF or whatever I want. If I want finer
> control over the presentation, I can write it in LaTeX. For OS X, you can
> install MacTeX, which is freely available from the TeX Users' Group.
> 
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> bibliographies.
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Re: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

Hello Gigi, 

Thanks for your comprehensive feedback regarding PDF pen pro. 

Have yourself a wonderful day! 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 25 Apr 2015, at 1:06 am, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi again.
> I forgot to say that it has a very fast image OCR on it. If you have a pdf 
> file that is an image, it automatically OCR’s the thing. The other thing is 
> that Greg told me that a sighted person could, and I forgot exactly how he 
> said to do this, go into an inaccessible file and rename the form fields. If 
> you open a file that is not set up for us, and you tell the program to find 
> the form fields, they don’t have names we can recognize; they are numbered. A 
> sighted person can go in there and rename the fields. At least, that’s the 
> way I understood it. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gigi, 
>> 
>> Thanks for the info regarding this app. It's  greatly appreciated. 
>> 
>> I'll endeavour to purchase from the  website in that case. ( And make sure I 
>> pick up version 7.1).  
>> 
>> Best wishes, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>>> On 4/25/2015 12:28 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> Hi Sadam 
>>> If you get the program, please be aware that, to my knowledge, you need to 
>>> read pages with PDF Pen page by page by interacting with each one 
>>> individually. You want to make sure you get version 7.1; I say that because 
>>> if you go to the app store, I’m not sure version is available from it. 
>>> 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
 On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
 
 Hi George, 
 
 Thanks for the quick response! 
 
 I've heard some good things about the above app. Because I work with some 
 PDF documents for college it will come in handy for those times when a 
 lecturer sends me a PDF document. 
 
 What a disappointment Adobe DC for the Mac   turned out to be. 
 
 Thanks once again! 
 
 Kind regards, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
> On 4/25/2015 12:07 AM, George b wrote:
> That is it
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sadam ahmed
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 06:57
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: PDF Pen reader for the Mac.
>  
> Hello all, 
>  
> I believe this app was mentioned recently. 
>  
> I did a quick search on Google and came accross the below link for said 
> app: 
>  
> http://smilesoftware.com/pdfpen/support.html. 
>  
> Just want to make sure it’s the correct one? 
>  
> It costs $124 at least from the website. 
>  
> Is it also available to purchase from the Mac app Store? 
>  
> Thanks for any help provided. 
>  
> Kind regards, 
>  
> Sadam Ahmed 
>  
> Blog: 
>  
> Http://SadamAhmed.com 
>  
> Sent from my 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro 
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Re: Eloquence for the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

Anders, 

Thanks for your diligence. 

Hopefully all these reports generate a positive outcome. 

Enjoy the rest of your day. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

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> On 21 Apr 2015, at 6:14 am, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I’ve written to them to get the espeak on the mac.
> Eloquence might be good but it doesn’t  have swedish.
> /A
>> 20 apr 2015 kl. 10:23 skrev sadam ahmed :
>> 
>> Not a bad notion at all. 
>> 
>> I’m currently drafting an email to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com so will mention it. 
>> 
>> The perfect solution would be for them to include ETI eloquence in the next 
>> version of OS X. I can’t be the only person who would like that synth on the 
>> Mac. 
>> 
>> It took a while but we did get Alex on the iOS products eventually. 
>> 
>> Thanks once again for your feedback regarding this matter. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
>> 
>> B.A. Business Information Systems 
>> 
>> RMIT University 
>> 
>>> On 20 Apr 2015, at 4:45 pm, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I second that. Espeak would be far better. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 19, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Why not ask them to add espeak.
 It has more languages.
 /A
> 18 apr 2015 kl. 22:55 skrev gs :
> 
> Hmm. When you tried it, it worked but you are no longer using it yet you 
> wish it was supported. This is confusing. I don't want to waste the time 
> with it if it really isn't useable. However, I do enjoy Eloquence and if 
> it really worked well, I would use it exclusively on the Mac OS.
> 
> 
> On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:27 AM, sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
>   When I tried it a couple of months ago it worked okay. 
> 
> I wish Apple acctually supported this synth officially. 
> 
> Kind regards,  
> 
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
> 
> B.A. Business Information Systems 
> 
> RMIT University 
>
> 
> — 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Apr 2015, at 2:51 pm, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think this will be doable because I can't  get the wine.app.  
>> Anybody have it? Even when I go to the homepage, the download link for 
>> the wine app don't seem to exist. And the one that is in the README file 
>> simply isn't found.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2015, at 9:44 PM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> The file is at: 
>>> 
>>> http://allinaccess.com/software/ 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards, 
>>> 
>>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
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>>> 
>>> 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 11:28 am, Debbie April Yuille 
  wrote:
 
 How would you go about running eloquence on the Mac? I wasn't aware 
 that was possible.
 
 Debbie
 
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 Subject: Eloquence for the Mac.
 
 I know there are ways of running the above synthesiser on a Mac. 
 
 But it's horribly unstable. 
 
 Putting aside the Infovox voices are there any text to speech products 
 that can be used on OS X that rival eloquence for responsiveness? 
 
 Kind regards, 
 
 Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
 
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Re: iCloud drive, is it accessable

[sadamahmed1992]

Greetings Stacy, 

ICloud Drive is totally accessible. 

It's integrated with Finder. 

For your information as well as anyone else who is interested the below link is 
a podcast  by David Woodbridge on this topic. 

URL: 

http://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/e/using-icloud-drive-in-yosemite-with-voiceover/.
 

I hope this helps. 

Best, 

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> On 20 Apr 2015, at 7:12 am, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Well,
> The subject line says it all.
> is the iCloud drive accessable or would I be doing better to stick with 
> dropbox?
> 
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>   
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: VoiceOver training

[sadamahmed1992]

Fair enough. 

I'll check it out later hopefully the server will be up by then. 

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> wrote:
> 
> It's correct. There clearly is a server problem at their end. I double 
> checked with Google hence my correct assumption this time.
> 
>> On 19/04/2015 19:47, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello Chris,
>> 
>> You may want to recheck your URL.
>> 
>> After I  clicked on the link I got a " 500 page not found error".
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
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>> 
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Re: VoiceOver training

[sadamahmed1992]

Hello Chris, 

You may want to recheck your URL. 

After I  clicked on the link I got a " 500 page not found error". 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Here is something else I am going to venture in to: VoiceOver training 
> voluntarily. As a refresher I am going to use this tutorial-based site 
> located here
> www.voiceover-easy.net
> 
> I may have work very soon.
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

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Thanks for clearing that up Jonathan. 

That's disappointing as I am a big believer in being as productive as possible. 

I will get one eventually just not in the initial phase. 

Let the early adopters work out the bugs for the rest of us. 

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> On 19 Apr 2015, at 12:39 pm, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> You can't actually reply to email on the Apple Watch, only read it.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 19/04/2015, at 10:35 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> It does seem like using the watch to do email would be incredibly tedious.  
>> I still seem myself doing that from my phone, too.  I would only advise 
>> getting the watch if you want to do the health tracking.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Interesting. After ordering mine on the first day I've subsequently hit 
>>> the cancel button.
>>> 
>>> I came to the conclusion that my iPhone can already do most of the things 
>>> I'd use the Watch for anyway.
>>> 
>>> Also me being a productivity nut I can't see myself powering through my 
>>> email on said Watch  like I can on the phone.
>>> 
>>> Maybe I'll get the second generation but at this point it appears to be not 
>>> worth it.
>>> 
>>> Most first gen Apple products come with a quirk.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
>>> 
>>> B.A. Business Information Systems
>>> 
>>> RMIT University
>>> 
 On 4/19/2015 7:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
 It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am going for 
 an advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so I will have the 
 perfect occasion to really test it out against my initial opinion. If it 
 really doesn’t fit my needs, I can always send it back via the local apple 
 store. it really bogs down to battery life for me. But I’m sure next 
 generations will get much better, especially with the upcoming leaps in 
 battery life.
 
 All the best,
 
 
 
 
 
 
> On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs  wrote:
> 
> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 
> days. I just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have 
> said. I keep my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods 
> around my neck. I don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried 
> work with VO and just don't see how having something on my wrist is 
> really going to make that much difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. 
> For visual users I do understand it though.
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take 
> a look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure 
> what I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to 
> tell much because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the 
> form factor, and thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was 
> pretty cool.  Since I have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, 
> I decided to go ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports 
> model, because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when 
> newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in shelling out 
> the extra $200.  Looking forward to its arrival and getting to actually 
> put it through its paces.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Eloquence for the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

When I tried it was quite early. 

At that stage I believe the software  was designated  Alpha. 

My friend who runs it says it works well except for the odd freezing and 
stability  issues. 

I've been meaning to put it back on my system but just haven't gotten around to 
doing it what with university assignments coming at me from all angles. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

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> On 19 Apr 2015, at 6:55 am, gs  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. When you tried it, it worked but you are no longer using it yet you wish 
> it was supported. This is confusing. I don't want to waste the time with it 
> if it really isn't useable. However, I do enjoy Eloquence and if it really 
> worked well, I would use it exclusively on the Mac OS.
> 
> 
> On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:27 AM, sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
>   When I tried it a couple of months ago it worked okay. 
> 
> I wish Apple acctually supported this synth officially. 
> 
> Kind regards,  
> 
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
> 
> B.A. Business Information Systems 
> 
> RMIT University 
>
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Apr 2015, at 2:51 pm, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think this will be doable because I can't  get the wine.app.  
>> Anybody have it? Even when I go to the homepage, the download link for the 
>> wine app don't seem to exist. And the one that is in the README file simply 
>> isn't found.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2015, at 9:44 PM, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> The file is at: 
>>> 
>>> http://allinaccess.com/software/ 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards, 
>>> 
>>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 11:28 am, Debbie April Yuille 
  wrote:
 
 How would you go about running eloquence on the Mac? I wasn't aware that 
 was possible.
 
 Debbie
 
 Sent from my PC
 
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 Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 4:18 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Eloquence for the Mac.
 
 I know there are ways of running the above synthesiser on a Mac. 
 
 But it's horribly unstable. 
 
 Putting aside the Infovox voices are there any text to speech products 
 that can be used on OS X that rival eloquence for responsiveness? 
 
 Kind regards, 
 
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Re: How do I go about installing Microsoft Office on to my Mac?

[sadamahmed1992]

Yes it is. 

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Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

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> On 18 Apr 2015, at 6:31 am, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Is Microsoft Office accessible for the I phone now too?
> On 17 Apr 2015, at 07:43, sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Eleanor, 
> 
> You can access the preview at the below link: 
> 
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=523849. 
> 
> Once it's downloaded open the file and proceed with the regular software 
> installation. 
> 
> Then open word and use your screen reader commands to check for updates. 
> 
> Relaunch word from the doc or applications folder and you should be good to 
> go. 
> 
> Regarding Office 365 I don't believe you need to pay again. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
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> 
> 
>> On 17 Apr 2015, at 4:33 pm, Eleanor Roberts 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi list 
>> 
>> Please forgive my ignorance and hope you can help me. I've currently got 
>> Office 365 running on my IPad and IPhone so I can use Word etc. However, 
>> having read recent e-mails and seeing how accessible Office for Mac seems to 
>> have become I'm quite keen to try and install it on my Mac tooo. So was 
>> wondering if anyone could send me sone instructions on how I go about 
>> installing it please? Also, bearing in mind I'm already paying for Office 
>> 365, will I need to create a new account for my Mac?, or will I be able to 
>> use the same one? 
>> 
>> I'm also quite keen to do this as I have an interview on Monday, and think 
>> it'd be great to be able to tell them that I can successfully use Word etc 
>> on my Mac as well as my IPad. 
>> 
>> So any help anyone can give with this on how to install the programme would 
>> be much appreciated. 
>> 
>> Many thanks. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: How do I go about installing Microsoft Office on to my Mac?

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi Eleanor, 

You can access the preview at the below link: 

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=523849. 

Once it's downloaded open the file and proceed with the regular software 
installation. 

Then open word and use your screen reader commands to check for updates. 

Relaunch word from the doc or applications folder and you should be good to go. 

Regarding Office 365 I don't believe you need to pay again. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

Sent from my iPhone 

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>  wrote:
> 
> Hi list 
> 
> Please forgive my ignorance and hope you can help me. I've currently got 
> Office 365 running on my IPad and IPhone so I can use Word etc. However, 
> having read recent e-mails and seeing how accessible Office for Mac seems to 
> have become I'm quite keen to try and install it on my Mac tooo. So was 
> wondering if anyone could send me sone instructions on how I go about 
> installing it please? Also, bearing in mind I'm already paying for Office 
> 365, will I need to create a new account for my Mac?, or will I be able to 
> use the same one? 
> 
> I'm also quite keen to do this as I have an interview on Monday, and think 
> it'd be great to be able to tell them that I can successfully use Word etc on 
> my Mac as well as my IPad. 
> 
> So any help anyone can give with this on how to install the programme would 
> be much appreciated. 
> 
> Many thanks. 
> 
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Eloquence for the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

The file is at: 

http://allinaccess.com/software/ 

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> On 17 Apr 2015, at 11:28 am, Debbie April Yuille 
>  wrote:
> 
> How would you go about running eloquence on the Mac? I wasn't aware that was 
> possible.
> 
> Debbie
> 
> Sent from my PC
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> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Eloquence for the Mac.
> 
> I know there are ways of running the above synthesiser on a Mac. 
> 
> But it's horribly unstable. 
> 
> Putting aside the Infovox voices are there any text to speech products that 
> can be used on OS X that rival eloquence for responsiveness? 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: Help please! My MacBook is not turning on

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi Ezzie, 

Please see this support article: 

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204267. 

If the issues persist it might be worth taking it into an Apple store so that a 
genius can have a look. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

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> On 17 Apr 2015, at 8:50 am, Ezzie Bueno  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends:
> 
> The subject says it, my MacBook is not turning on, despite the charger being 
> plugged in. The last time I used it, I only shut the lid for the night and 
> the next day it wouldn't power on. I plugged it into the charger thinking 
> that it might have died, but it still doesn't turn on. I've tried using 
> different outlets, and different chargers and I get no results. What advice 
> do you have for me that I could try? And by the way, this is a MacBook Pro 
> 2012.
> Any help is greatly appreciated. :-)
> 
> Thanks,
> Ezzie
> 
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Eloquence for the Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

I know there are ways of running the above synthesiser on a Mac. 

But it's horribly unstable. 

Putting aside the Infovox voices are there any text to speech products that can 
be used on OS X that rival eloquence for responsiveness? 

Kind regards, 

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Office 365.

[sadamahmed1992]

Thinking of purchasing an  Ofice 365 subscription. 

Do  the new improvements relating to VO extend to 365? 

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Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements

[sadamahmed1992]

I collaborate with a lot of professors for my assignments  who insist on using 
Windows. 

It'll be inordinately liberating to be able to use word! 

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> On 16 Apr 2015, at 3:59 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Naam. Naam.  Aiwa!  I totally agree.  Let's hope that they do!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
> 
> 
> It will be interesting to see whether they maintain accessibility right 
> through to the final release.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> 
> 
>> On 16 Apr 2015, at 3:36 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Acording to what he says, it is.  I'm incredibly incredibly excited!  I'm 
>> really hoping this is really true!
>> 
>> Here's crossing my fingers!
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
>> 
>> 
>> Downloading it now.
>> 
>> Hopefully it's reasonably usable.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Apr 2015, at 3:26 am, Piotr Machacz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe Microsoft hasn’t updated their main downloads. If that’s the case, 
>>> you can update inside any of the office apps which is how I got it in the 
>>> first place. Open Word, Excel or any other office app, then go to the help 
>>> menu and check for updates. The update tool may have to update itself 
>>> first, but after that you should see updates for all of the office apps. 
>>> Now, if Windows update worked as well…
>>> 
 On 15 Apr 2015, at 19:12, sadam Ahmed  wrote:
 
 I’ve just donloaded.
 
 Not seeying any VoiceOver improvements.
 
 No feedback is given from BoiceOver when typing.
 
 Furthermore interacting with text doesn’t work.
 
 Unless I’m downloading an older build.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
 
 B.A. Business information Systems
 
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> On 16 Apr 2015, at 2:47 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's true George.  Good point.  So, if! it's not the update we're 
> talking about, then how do you update it through the app itself, or would 
> that actually happen through Software Update in the Apple menu? I 
> apologize for my ignorance.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "george b" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:40 PM
> Subject: RE: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
> 
> 
> Ok just remember it might be a lower 16 . number and updates come through 
> the app.
> 
> thanks
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
> Gilland
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 09:35
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
> 
> I found a download, but I'd hate to give you the link just quite yet, as I
> want to be sure this is the version that was mentioned. It did say 
> preview,
> but it wasn't totally clear if it was specifically 16.9, so let me install
> it and have a go.  If it is, I'll upload it to my server and get you a 
> link,
> just to make things easier.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "george b" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Where can I get the office 16.9 to install?
> 
> thanks
> 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
> 
> Microsoft just updated the office 2015 preview and it now seems to work 
> with
> VoiceOver quite a bit better. I had a brief play with Word and the 
> document
> is now readable, and formatting information - spelling errors, font, etc 
> are
> exposed properly and can be seen. It also announces it automatically when 
> it
> changes, so you know when you’re moving into a heading or whatever. Links
> and tables also seem to work and you can select across pages, unlike with
> iWork I also briefly looked at Excel and VO now recognizes the grid, so
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Re: iOS 8.3 Accessibility bugfix list

[sadamahmed1992]

Maybe it's just me but it seems like The lower quality voices have been messed 
up in this update. 

Compact Daniel doesn't sound as good as he did prior to the update. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

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> On 16 Apr 2015, at 4:08 am, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> I agree with Kim. I had to play a form of chess trying to outsmart the
> system in to moving apps around to where I wanted them. It was very
> timely too, as the list of Apple apps that they put on your phone that
> you can't remove got an adition for me in the form of the Apple Watch
> app. Just another app I was more  easily able to move to the "useless
> apps" folder.
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On 4/15/15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> hi,
>> 
>> It was very consistent for me.  I could move anything I wanted as long as it
>> didn’t reside in the bottom row of the visible page.  So, I could move items
>> between pages, create folders, even drop something onto the bottom row, just
>> couldn’t move something from the bottom row unless I did some sneaky thing
>> where I pushed something from the bottom row up to the above row then placed
>> it where I wanted it.  It worked for me, just took some thinking and
>> planning to make sure I moved things in the correct order.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2015, at 09:01, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm happy to see that they fix the bug where you couldn't always move icons
>> on the home screen. Some apps would move and some wouldn't, there was no
>> rhyme nor reason to it, it was just a bug and it was making me really
>> buggy.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 3:39 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In case you haven't taken the plunge yet, here is what Apple says is fixed
>>> for accessibility in the iOS 8.3 update:
>>> 
>>>  •Fixes an issue where using the back button in Safari causes
>>> VoiceOver gestures to not respond
>>>  •Fixes an issue where VoiceOver focus becomes unreliable in draft
>>> Mail messages
>>>  •Fixes an issue where Braille Screen Input cannot be used to type
>>> text in forms on webpages
>>>  •Fixes an issue where toggling Quick Nav on a Braille Display
>>> announces that Quick Nav is off
>>>  •Fixes an issue keeping app icons from being moveable on home screen
>>> when VoiceOver is enabled
>>>  •Fixes an issue in Speak Screen where speech will not start again
>>> after pausing
>>> 
>>> CB
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Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements

[sadamahmed1992]

It will be interesting to see whether they maintain accessibility right through 
to the final release. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

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> On 16 Apr 2015, at 3:36 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Acording to what he says, it is.  I'm incredibly incredibly excited!  I'm 
> really hoping this is really true!
> 
> Here's crossing my fingers!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
> 
> 
> Downloading it now.
> 
> Hopefully it's reasonably usable.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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> 
> 
>> On 16 Apr 2015, at 3:26 am, Piotr Machacz  wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe Microsoft hasn’t updated their main downloads. If that’s the case, you 
>> can update inside any of the office apps which is how I got it in the first 
>> place. Open Word, Excel or any other office app, then go to the help menu 
>> and check for updates. The update tool may have to update itself first, but 
>> after that you should see updates for all of the office apps. Now, if 
>> Windows update worked as well…
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2015, at 19:12, sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve just donloaded.
>>> 
>>> Not seeying any VoiceOver improvements.
>>> 
>>> No feedback is given from BoiceOver when typing.
>>> 
>>> Furthermore interacting with text doesn’t work.
>>> 
>>> Unless I’m downloading an older build.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
>>> 
>>> B.A. Business information Systems
>>> 
>>> RMIT University
>>> 
>>> —
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 16 Apr 2015, at 2:47 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 That's true George.  Good point.  So, if! it's not the update we're 
 talking about, then how do you update it through the app itself, or would 
 that actually happen through Software Update in the Apple menu?  I 
 apologize for my ignorance.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "george b" 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:40 PM
 Subject: RE: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
 
 
 Ok just remember it might be a lower 16 . number and updates come through 
 the app.
 
 thanks
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 09:35
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
 
 I found a download, but I'd hate to give you the link just quite yet, as I
 want to be sure this is the version that was mentioned. It did say preview,
 but it wasn't totally clear if it was specifically 16.9, so let me install
 it and have a go.  If it is, I'll upload it to my server and get you a 
 link,
 just to make things easier.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "george b" 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:28 PM
 Subject: RE: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Where can I get the office 16.9 to install?
 
 thanks
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Piotr Machacz
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 08:26
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
 
 Microsoft just updated the office 2015 preview and it now seems to work 
 with
 VoiceOver quite a bit better. I had a brief play with Word and the document
 is now readable, and formatting information - spelling errors, font, etc 
 are
 exposed properly and can be seen. It also announces it automatically when 
 it
 changes, so you know when you’re moving into a heading or whatever. Links
 and tables also seem to work and you can select across pages, unlike with
 iWork I also briefly looked at Excel and VO now recognizes the grid, so
 things seem to be better there as well.
 
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Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements

[sadamahmed1992]

Thanks Chris for these  instructions. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

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> On 16 Apr 2015, at 3:29 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> You are!  You gotta do like George said.
> 
> I'm uploading the preview to my public Dropbox for you guys now to make it 
> easier.  This way you guys have a direct download link to the .pkg file. But, 
> meanwhile, here is what you need to do.
> 
> Open up Word.
> 
> Get yourself into a document, be it a blank document, or whatever.
> 
> Go to your menu bar with VO+M.
> 
> VO+Right arrow over to the help menu and open it up with vo+down arrow.
> 
> Vo+down arrow until you get to Check for updates, then hit VO+Space.
> 
> Hit VO+Space on the check for updates default button.
> 
> Now, you'll get a table.  By default, you'll probably see an update to 
> Microsoft Updater in this table.  You'll also see it's checked to be 
> installed and that its size is just over a meg.
> 
> Go ahead and navigate with Voiceover to where you need to be in order to 
> install that update.  I won't talk you through that, as the screens here are 
> 100% accessible.
> If it asks you to close updater before installing, or to choose install 
> later, go ahead and hit vo+space on the option to close and install.
> 
> Once it's installed go back to that same window you were at after going into 
> the help menu and to check for updates.  It should still be up, but you might 
> have to possibly command+tab to find it.  Once you've done this, again, hit 
> the check for updates default button.
> 
> Now, in the table, you should see Microsoft Word Preview 15.9.  Now mind you, 
> I don't know if you have to update to this in order to then get up to the 
> accessible 16.9, or if the original poster made an error in that version 
> number.  I've not quite yet gotten that far.  I'm in the process of doing 
> this with you right now as I type this, so I'll let you know if there are 
> further steps, once I know.  Anyway, this Word Preview 15.9 installer should 
> say it's about 700MB in size, give or take a little bit here or there. Again, 
> it already should be checked.  Just navigate as usual, let it download, then 
> once it's done, go through the installer like normal.  Then, close Word, if 
> it doesn't make you do so already, and once this 15.9 update has been 
> installed, relaunch Word, then try it out.  If it still doesn't work, then 
> perform these steps to check for updates again until it says there are no 
> updates available.  If then it doesn't still work, then I will need to 
> research things further.
> 
> Chris. 
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Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements

[sadamahmed1992]

Downloading it now. 

Hopefully it's reasonably usable. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

Sent from my iPhone 

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> On 16 Apr 2015, at 3:26 am, Piotr Machacz  wrote:
> 
> Maybe Microsoft hasn’t updated their main downloads. If that’s the case, you 
> can update inside any of the office apps which is how I got it in the first 
> place. Open Word, Excel or any other office app, then go to the help menu and 
> check for updates. The update tool may have to update itself first, but after 
> that you should see updates for all of the office apps. Now, if Windows 
> update worked as well…
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2015, at 19:12, sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve just donloaded. 
>> 
>> Not seeying any VoiceOver improvements. 
>> 
>> No feedback is given from BoiceOver when typing. 
>> 
>> Furthermore interacting with text doesn’t work. 
>> 
>> Unless I’m downloading an older build. 
>> 
>> Kind regards, 
>> 
>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
>> 
>> B.A. Business information Systems 
>> 
>> RMIT University 
>> 
>> — 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Apr 2015, at 2:47 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's true George.  Good point.  So, if! it's not the update we're talking 
>>> about, then how do you update it through the app itself, or would that 
>>> actually happen through Software Update in the Apple menu?  I apologize for 
>>> my ignorance.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "george b" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok just remember it might be a lower 16 . number and updates come through 
>>> the app.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>>> Gilland
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 09:35
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
>>> 
>>> I found a download, but I'd hate to give you the link just quite yet, as I
>>> want to be sure this is the version that was mentioned. It did say preview,
>>> but it wasn't totally clear if it was specifically 16.9, so let me install
>>> it and have a go.  If it is, I'll upload it to my server and get you a link,
>>> just to make things easier.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "george b" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:28 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Where can I get the office 16.9 to install?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Piotr Machacz
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 08:26
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
>>> 
>>> Microsoft just updated the office 2015 preview and it now seems to work with
>>> VoiceOver quite a bit better. I had a brief play with Word and the document
>>> is now readable, and formatting information - spelling errors, font, etc are
>>> exposed properly and can be seen. It also announces it automatically when it
>>> changes, so you know when you’re moving into a heading or whatever. Links
>>> and tables also seem to work and you can select across pages, unlike with
>>> iWork I also briefly looked at Excel and VO now recognizes the grid, so
>>> things seem to be better there as well.
>>> 
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Mail drop in OS X Yosemite.

[sadamahmed1992]

Greetings to all, 

Has anyone used or have experience with the Mail Drop feature introduced in 
Yosemite? 

As usual thanks for any help provided. 

Kind regards, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

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Re: Google Drive for Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

Very funny. 

If you're going to make stupid remarks Why don't you leave it to other people 
to answer the question. 

Kind regards, 

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> On 15 Apr 2015, at 3:59 am, george b  wrote:
> 
> What is the name of the app?  Is it "hi all"
> 
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> Subject: Google Drive for Mac.
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Wondering if the above app is accessible with VO? 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
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Google Drive for Mac.

[sadamahmed1992]

Hi all, 

Wondering if the above app is accessible with VO? 

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