Re: APFS or Mac Extended Journal for backup drive
You can convert it if you wish, but it's not necessary. I have the same set up, it works fine. > On Jul 19, 2019, at 1:12 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Dear List, My Mac is APFS, but my backup drive is Mac Extended Journal, > Should I convert the USB external drive to APFS? > Thanks in advance, > Rob > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBD01D2B-655E-4E27-A6AB-8AB5394A57A4%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A50D7AC4-03B9-4401-8D0C-857F746312E1%40charter.net.
Re: APFS or Mac Extended Journal for backup drive
CCC will do just fine under Mojave with a backup drive formatted to Mac Extended Journaled. This will change after Mojave however where the backup drive will have to be APFS but CCC should be ready for that by September. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 7/19/2019 7:11 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote: I will be cloning using carbon copy cloner. The USB Drive is not SSD. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2019, at 8:28 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Robert, This is just my opinion, but the answer kind of depends upon whether or not you intend to run Mac OS on your USB external drive. If the USB device is a solid-state drive (SSD) and you plan on using it as a boot partition, for instance by cloning your internal drive such as one would do using an application such as Super-Duper, then the drive must be formatted APFS. However, if the USB device is not an SSD, then you may boot from it using the Extended Journal format. Again, my assumption is that you intend to clone your internal boot partition; because when I think of a backup drive, cloning is what comes to mind. Now some people elect to employ proprietary software techniques for backing up a drive, for instance using Time Machine. I do not use such methods because, if something goes wrong, even a little thing, then you could lose some or all of your data. To me, the only true reliable backup of any drive is to clone it, bit-for-bit using good old copy and paste, such is what is done in Super-Duper. Just my opinion. Mark -Original Message- From: 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 10:13 AM To: Email Groups Subject: APFS or Mac Extended Journal for backup drive Dear List, My Mac is APFS, but my backup drive is Mac Extended Journal, Should I convert the USB external drive to APFS? Thanks in advance, Rob -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBD01D2B-655E-4E27-A6AB-8AB5394A57A4%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000301d53e92%24153d3da0%243fb7b8e0%24%40edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/fb189efe-547e-275b-1b33-c9a30abfb050%40icloud.com.
Re: APFS or Mac Extended Journal for backup drive
I will be cloning using carbon copy cloner. The USB Drive is not SSD. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2019, at 8:28 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Robert, > > This is just my opinion, but the answer kind of depends upon whether or not > you intend to run Mac OS on your USB external drive. > > If the USB device is a solid-state drive (SSD) and you plan on using it as a > boot partition, for instance by cloning your internal drive such as one would > do using an application such as Super-Duper, then the drive must be formatted > APFS. > > However, if the USB device is not an SSD, then you may boot from it using the > Extended Journal format. > > Again, my assumption is that you intend to clone your internal boot > partition; because when I think of a backup drive, cloning is what comes to > mind. > > Now some people elect to employ proprietary software techniques for backing > up a drive, for instance using Time Machine. I do not use such methods > because, if something goes wrong, even a little thing, then you could lose > some or all of your data. > > To me, the only true reliable backup of any drive is to clone it, bit-for-bit > using good old copy and paste, such is what is done in Super-Duper. > > Just my opinion. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 10:13 AM > To: Email Groups > Subject: APFS or Mac Extended Journal for backup drive > > Dear List, My Mac is APFS, but my backup drive is Mac Extended Journal, > Should I convert the USB external drive to APFS? > Thanks in advance, > Rob > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBD01D2B-655E-4E27-A6AB-8AB5394A57A4%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000301d53e92%24153d3da0%243fb7b8e0%24%40edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6B9CBC9F-9BB1-4A03-9F01-90EAADADE89A%40icloud.com.
RE: APFS or Mac Extended Journal for backup drive
Hello Robert, This is just my opinion, but the answer kind of depends upon whether or not you intend to run Mac OS on your USB external drive. If the USB device is a solid-state drive (SSD) and you plan on using it as a boot partition, for instance by cloning your internal drive such as one would do using an application such as Super-Duper, then the drive must be formatted APFS. However, if the USB device is not an SSD, then you may boot from it using the Extended Journal format. Again, my assumption is that you intend to clone your internal boot partition; because when I think of a backup drive, cloning is what comes to mind. Now some people elect to employ proprietary software techniques for backing up a drive, for instance using Time Machine. I do not use such methods because, if something goes wrong, even a little thing, then you could lose some or all of your data. To me, the only true reliable backup of any drive is to clone it, bit-for-bit using good old copy and paste, such is what is done in Super-Duper. Just my opinion. Mark -Original Message- From: 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 10:13 AM To: Email Groups Subject: APFS or Mac Extended Journal for backup drive Dear List, My Mac is APFS, but my backup drive is Mac Extended Journal, Should I convert the USB external drive to APFS? Thanks in advance, Rob -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBD01D2B-655E-4E27-A6AB-8AB5394A57A4%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000301d53e92%24153d3da0%243fb7b8e0%24%40edu.
Re: APFS or Mac Extended Journal for backup drive
No. But. When Catalina is released in the fall, the answer would then be yes. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 7/19/2019 10:12 AM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote: Dear List, My Mac is APFS, but my backup drive is Mac Extended Journal, Should I convert the USB external drive to APFS? Thanks in advance, Rob -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3b8e9c75-67fe-7f55-1fa8-bc3f5beffb99%40icloud.com.
APFS or Mac Extended Journal for backup drive
Dear List, My Mac is APFS, but my backup drive is Mac Extended Journal, Should I convert the USB external drive to APFS? Thanks in advance, Rob -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FBD01D2B-655E-4E27-A6AB-8AB5394A57A4%40icloud.com.
