Re: Accessibility with everybody
Forgot to say that last night the only way I was able to finish watching my video was to choose the iTunes link and pay Apple $1.99 for the download. I was going to do that again today, but I couldn't find the iTunes link for the one I wanted, unless I wanted to buy the dvd, which I didn't. Regards again, Gigi On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi guys > I just had a very bad accessibility hour. Luckily, this was not something I > had to do, but the better I got, be more I wanted to do it. > > I have an application on my iPhone which sort of works with VoiceOver. For > one thing, the links don't always tell you what they are, and there are some > existing buttons or whatever they are that you can't tell exist. So, if you > want to play a video like I did last night, you have to get sighted help to > turn VoiceOver off and activate the button to play. The other thing is that > if you watch the free ones like I started to last night, you get interrupted > with an ad, and there's no way to get back using VoiceOver, never mind that > VoiceOver tells you that your video will start up in 12 seconds, but it never > does. > > Then add insult to injury. You are asked to do a survey. You are suspicious > taht there might be some accessibility problems, but forge on anyway. They > sent me a message to my iPhone with the link for doing the survey. I should > have chosen the email option because , you guessed it, it didn't work with > the iPhone. I could read all the questions, and find all the choices, > including the part to make comments. However, when I double tapped on the > answers, their dumb computer didn't recognize that I had tapped on them. > > So, I got out my Mac, and this time it worked. You guys can imagine what I > had to say, and of course, it was not complimentary at all. At the end I told > them to contact Apple accessibility to improve their program. Then I told the > survey people that I had spent an hour on their survey. I told them I had to > do it twice. > > Regards, > Gigi > > On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> Hey Gigi, >> >> Well put. I know I was only speaking about fantasy games, but wanted to >> refer to the big picture as well, this was just my example, and I think you >> summed it up very well. There are far more important things that need to be >> made accessible to people with all sorts of disabilities. This was just my >> way of chiming in. Thanks again for your thoughts and comments. >> On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> I am not a sports fan like my brothers. However, your comments are not >>> small here. I think what is needed is that accessibility, especially for >>> sensory accessibility, be required as a course for all computer >>> programmers, including those doing iOS. This is because, and I see it in >>> the group that I belong to, it never even occurs to those folks what is >>> needed and why something doesn't work. A lot of them just plain flat don't >>> get it, and when you have a big group of people doing the project, then you >>> are probably going to have a whole bunch of them that have not gotten it >>> yet. So, what I think you are looking at, is a group of people that sat >>> down and looked at the program that they had gotten, and thought some >>> wonderful ideas that would work just great for our sided friends. I'll bet >>> they never even thought that someone like you would want to play the game >>> >>> Until programming for sensory disabilities is a required course at >>> universities for computer programmers, I think we are going to continue to >>> have our programs broken from time to time. We are all busy trying to get >>> companies to recognize the importance accessibility, and Apple, for one has >>> done a good job on that. However, until we get universities across the >>> board to recognize that, we will continue, in my opinion, to have an uphill >>> battle. There are too many people out there thinking "I think it's too bad >>> that these people can't do anything. That's a real shame." We have to get >>> people away from that centuries-old mindset, and that is not easy. >>> Sincerely, >>> Gigi >>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> Hey all, Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I wanted to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the big picture, I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has opened my eyes to where accessibility falls with big companies. Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I miss most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. One of the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games anymore is by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision has deteriorated and I have
Accessibility with everybody
Hi guys I just had a very bad accessibility hour. Luckily, this was not something I had to do, but the better I got, be more I wanted to do it. I have an application on my iPhone which sort of works with VoiceOver. For one thing, the links don't always tell you what they are, and there are some existing buttons or whatever they are that you can't tell exist. So, if you want to play a video like I did last night, you have to get sighted help to turn VoiceOver off and activate the button to play. The other thing is that if you watch the free ones like I started to last night, you get interrupted with an ad, and there's no way to get back using VoiceOver, never mind that VoiceOver tells you that your video will start up in 12 seconds, but it never does. Then add insult to injury. You are asked to do a survey. You are suspicious taht there might be some accessibility problems, but forge on anyway. They sent me a message to my iPhone with the link for doing the survey. I should have chosen the email option because , you guessed it, it didn't work with the iPhone. I could read all the questions, and find all the choices, including the part to make comments. However, when I double tapped on the answers, their dumb computer didn't recognize that I had tapped on them. So, I got out my Mac, and this time it worked. You guys can imagine what I had to say, and of course, it was not complimentary at all. At the end I told them to contact Apple accessibility to improve their program. Then I told the survey people that I had spent an hour on their survey. I told them I had to do it twice. Regards, Gigi On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey Gigi, > > Well put. I know I was only speaking about fantasy games, but wanted to refer > to the big picture as well, this was just my example, and I think you summed > it up very well. There are far more important things that need to be made > accessible to people with all sorts of disabilities. This was just my way of > chiming in. Thanks again for your thoughts and comments. > On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Hi there >> I am not a sports fan like my brothers. However, your comments are not small >> here. I think what is needed is that accessibility, especially for sensory >> accessibility, be required as a course for all computer programmers, >> including those doing iOS. This is because, and I see it in the group that I >> belong to, it never even occurs to those folks what is needed and why >> something doesn't work. A lot of them just plain flat don't get it, and when >> you have a big group of people doing the project, then you are probably >> going to have a whole bunch of them that have not gotten it yet. So, what I >> think you are looking at, is a group of people that sat down and looked at >> the program that they had gotten, and thought some wonderful ideas that >> would work just great for our sided friends. I'll bet they never even >> thought that someone like you would want to play the game >> >> Until programming for sensory disabilities is a required course at >> universities for computer programmers, I think we are going to continue to >> have our programs broken from time to time. We are all busy trying to get >> companies to recognize the importance accessibility, and Apple, for one has >> done a good job on that. However, until we get universities across the board >> to recognize that, we will continue, in my opinion, to have an uphill >> battle. There are too many people out there thinking "I think it's too bad >> that these people can't do anything. That's a real shame." We have to get >> people away from that centuries-old mindset, and that is not easy. >> Sincerely, >> Gigi >> On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I >>> wanted to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the >>> big picture, I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has >>> opened my eyes to where accessibility falls with big companies. >>> >>> Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I >>> miss most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. >>> One of the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games >>> anymore is by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision >>> has deteriorated and I have come to completely rely on voiceover technology >>> playing fantasy games has gotten harder and harder. >>> >>> The most important part and most fun is the live draft. It's where you >>> build your team for the year. Do to sites like Yahoo and ESPN using java >>> and flash to run these drafts, I have had to auto pick which doesn't allow >>> you to participate with everyone else, and leaves you with an inferior team >>> starting out. Two years ago, I was so excited when af
