Laz, is Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-11 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi all,
Because I shared this resource for Phil, I wanted to correct some of my 
information.

The contact for accessible  editions of the amazon fire etc. is laz,
l...@talkingmp3players.com
The site, I believe was correct.
www.talkingmp3players.com
I do not own these devices.  However I have witnessed first hand the 
attention to detail and dedication Laz has for helping those who desire 
using them do so in the most inclusive way possible.

Kare


On Mon, 9 Dec 2019, Phil Halton wrote:


I have an iPhone and I do use Prime Video on that. However, I was hoping that 
with my extremely limited site that remains to me I might be able to actually 
see something if I was viewing a larger screen like on an iPad or an Amazon 
fire tablet. Problem is I didn’t feel like spending several hundreds of dollars 
just to be able to watch a little bit of video. The price of fire tablets, I’ve 
never even checked them out but I hear they’re less expensive, might be a 
reasonably priced solution. Then again, maybe I should just get used to the 
fact that there’s not gonna be any more video viewing in my life. This is the 
same sort of phenomenon that found me buying a telescope years ago. Yeah, a 
blind guy buying a telescope. Someone forgot to tell my brain that my eyes 
don’t work.

Sent from my IPhone



On Dec 8, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

So if you have an iPad or iphone why not just down load the prime video app 
and watch prime through that,
Or the kindle book app,
Sounds cheaper to me than a new device which may not be accessible.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 2:46 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? How's 
the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime video and 
maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-10 Thread Phil Halton
Yeah, I could hook up my old Apple TV that I don’t use anymore to the 
television in the living room and share from the iPhone to that, but then again 
I can’t see that screen either., hmmm...The whole thing is starting to sink in 
now. Hey by the way, you can’t see your hand if it’s on your face you got a 
pull it away a little bit, come on man.🙂

Sent from my IPhone


> On Dec 9, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Can't see a problem with a blind guy owning a telescope, could be a good 
> pickup line.
> 
> Like my 4k ultra high def 55 inch tv  which is really a waist when I can't 
> see my hand when it's touching my face.
> 
> Speaking of tv 
> Can you not setup some kind of screen sharing between your phone and a tv or 
> computer monitor to watch your videos on that 
> I can connect my phone to my tv and play video that way so others can see on 
> a larger screen 
> And Samsung have an app that lets me share with my tv  although I've never 
> got it working properly!
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2019 3:12 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader
> 
> I have an iPhone and I do use Prime Video on that. However, I was hoping that 
> with my extremely limited site that remains to me I might be able to actually 
> see something if I was viewing a larger screen like on an iPad or an Amazon 
> fire tablet. Problem is I didn’t feel like spending several hundreds of 
> dollars just to be able to watch a little bit of video. The price of fire 
> tablets, I’ve never even checked them out but I hear they’re less expensive, 
> might be a reasonably priced solution. Then again, maybe I should just get 
> used to the fact that there’s not gonna be any more video viewing in my life. 
> This is the same sort of phenomenon that found me buying a telescope years 
> ago. Yeah, a blind guy buying a telescope. Someone forgot to tell my brain 
> that my eyes don’t work.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> So if you have an iPad or iphone why not just down load the prime 
>> video app and watch prime through that, Or the kindle book app, Sounds 
>> cheaper to me than a new device which may not be accessible.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Phil Halton
>> Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 2:46 PM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen 
>> reader
>> 
>> Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? 
>> How's the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime 
>> video and maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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RE: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-09 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Can't see a problem with a blind guy owning a telescope, could be a good pickup 
line.

 Like my 4k ultra high def 55 inch tv  which is really a waist when I can't see 
my hand when it's touching my face.

Speaking of tv 
Can you not setup some kind of screen sharing between your phone and a tv or 
computer monitor to watch your videos on that 
I can connect my phone to my tv and play video that way so others can see on a 
larger screen 
And Samsung have an app that lets me share with my tv  although I've never got 
it working properly!
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2019 3:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

I have an iPhone and I do use Prime Video on that. However, I was hoping that 
with my extremely limited site that remains to me I might be able to actually 
see something if I was viewing a larger screen like on an iPad or an Amazon 
fire tablet. Problem is I didn’t feel like spending several hundreds of dollars 
just to be able to watch a little bit of video. The price of fire tablets, I’ve 
never even checked them out but I hear they’re less expensive, might be a 
reasonably priced solution. Then again, maybe I should just get used to the 
fact that there’s not gonna be any more video viewing in my life. This is the 
same sort of phenomenon that found me buying a telescope years ago. Yeah, a 
blind guy buying a telescope. Someone forgot to tell my brain that my eyes 
don’t work.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Dec 8, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> So if you have an iPad or iphone why not just down load the prime 
> video app and watch prime through that, Or the kindle book app, Sounds 
> cheaper to me than a new device which may not be accessible.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 2:46 PM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen 
> reader
> 
> Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? 
> How's the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime 
> video and maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-09 Thread Karen Lewellen

Phil,
There is a company specializing is insuring Amazon fire tablets are 
accessible, configuring to  our specifications, and pricing them even 
better than Amazon.

www.talkingmp3players.com
I hope I have that correct.
If not, write me off list and I will connect you to the owner.
I cannot speak to their use first hand.  However, if anyone can answer 
your questions its Lars.

Kare


On Mon, 9 Dec 2019, Phil Halton wrote:


I have an iPhone and I do use Prime Video on that. However, I was hoping that 
with my extremely limited site that remains to me I might be able to actually 
see something if I was viewing a larger screen like on an iPad or an Amazon 
fire tablet. Problem is I didn’t feel like spending several hundreds of dollars 
just to be able to watch a little bit of video. The price of fire tablets, I’ve 
never even checked them out but I hear they’re less expensive, might be a 
reasonably priced solution. Then again, maybe I should just get used to the 
fact that there’s not gonna be any more video viewing in my life. This is the 
same sort of phenomenon that found me buying a telescope years ago. Yeah, a 
blind guy buying a telescope. Someone forgot to tell my brain that my eyes 
don’t work.

Sent from my IPhone



On Dec 8, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

So if you have an iPad or iphone why not just down load the prime video app 
and watch prime through that,
Or the kindle book app,
Sounds cheaper to me than a new device which may not be accessible.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 2:46 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? How's 
the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime video and 
maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-09 Thread Phil Halton
I have an iPhone and I do use Prime Video on that. However, I was hoping that 
with my extremely limited site that remains to me I might be able to actually 
see something if I was viewing a larger screen like on an iPad or an Amazon 
fire tablet. Problem is I didn’t feel like spending several hundreds of dollars 
just to be able to watch a little bit of video. The price of fire tablets, I’ve 
never even checked them out but I hear they’re less expensive, might be a 
reasonably priced solution. Then again, maybe I should just get used to the 
fact that there’s not gonna be any more video viewing in my life. This is the 
same sort of phenomenon that found me buying a telescope years ago. Yeah, a 
blind guy buying a telescope. Someone forgot to tell my brain that my eyes 
don’t work.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Dec 8, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> So if you have an iPad or iphone why not just down load the prime video app 
> and watch prime through that,
> Or the kindle book app,
> Sounds cheaper to me than a new device which may not be accessible.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 2:46 PM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader
> 
> Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? 
> How's the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime 
> video and maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.
> 
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RE: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-08 Thread Simon A Fogarty
So if you have an iPad or iphone why not just down load the prime video app and 
watch prime through that,
Or the kindle book app,
Sounds cheaper to me than a new device which may not be accessible.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2019 2:46 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? How's 
the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime video and 
maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-07 Thread David Chittenden
The Amazon Kindle Tablets are very restricted Android tablets. They are low 
cost. Unfortunately, the screen response, at least on mine, which is four years 
old, is quite laggy. I usually need to tap with extra-firm pressure in order to 
get the touch screen to react.

Also, Voice View is extremely locked down (not configurable or customisable).
There are many Android tablets which are significantly better than the Amazon 
Kindle tablets. Some are not much more expensive than the Amazon.
Personally, I will be upgrading to the next Samsung flagship tablet, the one 
which will replace the Samsung Tab S6. It has several features which I want. 
Also, I like having products from both Android and iOS.

I currently have an iPad pro 10.5 and a Samsung Note 10 + 5G.

I am planning to go to an iPhone 12 Pro Max, and the Samsung Tab S7.

I want Braille Screen Input and the significantly better selection and copying 
features in iOS. I am only frustrated that it appears that Apple will most 
likely not be upgrading to the USBC port from the Lightning port.
The Samsung Tab S6 allows Samsung Dex to run directly on the tablet, which 
allows up to 5 apps to be open in different windows on the tablet 
simultaneously, and allows me to do computer and file related tasks which iOS 
and iPadOS do not allow.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 8 Dec 2019, at 11:45, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? 
> How's the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime 
> video and maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.
> 
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Re: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-07 Thread Cameron Strife
I owned one and it was a headache. This was two years ago so perhaps
accessibility has improved a bit since then but still... One thing I
will say though is that it was really handy having Alexa right there!
I have an echo gen 2 in my kitchen now though and that works out fine
as far as needing Alexa is concerned. I use the kindel app and the
amazon app on my iPhone all the time and the accessibility is quite
good. I'd put down a bit more cash and go for the basic iPad for $329.
I'll be doing this at some point in the new year although part of me
wants to wait until the next generation because maybe they'll bump up
the storage and processor for the basic iPad model...



On 12/7/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I have had a couple of those tablets, and I have sworn off of them. The
> speakers are lousy. The screen lags something crazy. They have very little
> storage space, which means you need to buy cards, and then if you’re unlucky
> like I was, the card reader will die, and you need to buy a new device. Been
> there done that, no more.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 7, 2019, at 6:05 PM, Jessica Moss 
>> wrote:
>>
>> From the small amount of experience I’ve had with one, they’re pretty
>> decent, but at times can be very laggy.  Also, something interesting I’ve
>> run into with their version of the amazon app, as opposed to the amazon
>> app on my iPhone, voice view reads all buttons as “button” instead of them
>> being read correctly, and the layout can be a little confusing.
>>
>>> On Dec 7, 2019, at 8:45 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets?
>>> How's the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime
>>> video and maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.
>>>
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Re: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-07 Thread Mary Otten
I have had a couple of those tablets, and I have sworn off of them. The 
speakers are lousy. The screen lags something crazy. They have very little 
storage space, which means you need to buy cards, and then if you’re unlucky 
like I was, the card reader will die, and you need to buy a new device. Been 
there done that, no more.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2019, at 6:05 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> From the small amount of experience I’ve had with one, they’re pretty 
> decent, but at times can be very laggy.  Also, something interesting I’ve run 
> into with their version of the amazon app, as opposed to the amazon app on my 
> iPhone, voice view reads all buttons as “button” instead of them being read 
> correctly, and the layout can be a little confusing.
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2019, at 8:45 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? 
>> How's the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime 
>> video and maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-07 Thread Jessica Moss
>From the small amount of experience I’ve had with one, they’re pretty decent, 
>but at times can be very laggy.  Also, something interesting I’ve run into 
>with their version of the amazon app, as opposed to the amazon app on my 
>iPhone, voice view reads all buttons as “button” instead of them being read 
>correctly, and the layout can be a little confusing.

> On Dec 7, 2019, at 8:45 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? 
> How's the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime 
> video and maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.
> 
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Amazon fire tablets Accessibility with Voice view screen reader

2019-12-07 Thread Phil Halton
Has anybody use the Voice view screen reader on the Amazon fire tablets? How's 
the accessibility? I might want to get one just for watching prime video and 
maybe reading kindle books. They're a lot cheaper than iPads.

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