RE: Blutooth connectivity and VoiceOver in the car

[Simon A Fogarty]

Petrus,

Your’s should be fine if it’s a 2018,

Mind you does the stereo support wha the iPhone has.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 18 May 2020 12:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blutooth connectivity and VoiceOver in the car

Ours is a 2018, not sure if anything has changed in the newer model  but I lose 
VoiceOver  with bluetooth as well. Unless there is something in the audio 
settings in the car we can change. But not really that bothered as my wife 
doesn’t like music or audio books while she is driving as it is too 
distracting. We’ve done it a few times but she prefers silence.


On 18/05/2020, at 11:55, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

My son has a 2014 Rav 4. I can connect my iPhone to his car using Bluetooth, 
and voiceover continues to work normally. You might give this a try.
- Brad -

On May 17, 2020, at 15:26, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, we only have the one USB port on the dash next to the stereo unit. 
Unfortunately our Toyota RAV4 does not have Apple car play so I lose Voiceover 
as soon as I connect my phone to the car. I can’t even seem to get VoiceOver to 
come through the car speakers, but I’m guessing Apple car play would allow 
voiceover through the phone while   connected.


On 18/05/2020, at 03:51, Bradford Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

That would be nice.
We have a 2012 Subaru Outback with only one USB port, which is located in the 
center console compartment.

- Brad -


On May 17, 2020, at 10:24, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Also, note that not all USB ports specifically connect to the audio system in a 
vehicle.  We have at least five in our machine, and only the one in the little 
cubby thing under the main controls area is actually connected to the audio 
system.  The rest are simply charging ports.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 17, 2020, at 8:33 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense to have a USB port in the compartment 
of the center console.  You can connect a device such as an MP3 or other player 
which can be kept in the console, and then controlled by the car’s radio.  Much 
better than plugging the MP3 player into the car radio itself and having the 
wire and the player in the way.  I think this is well thought out.

- Brad -



On May 17, 2020, at 05:33, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Makes a lot of sense,

Ask her to look in the centre console and see if there is a USB port in there,

Strangest place I’ve ever heard of putting a usb port but car manufacturers do 
some dum shit.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2020 1:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Writible CDs and DVDs

Absolutely’, met wife and I use bluetooth and our phones in the car, but as I’m 
burning these CDs for a work colleague of mine and she doesn’t think she has 
bluetooth or USB in her car I figured CDs were the way to go. She might have 
Bluetooth but as she parks about a 1klm away from work so she can get exercise 
walking to work I can’t really check her car.



On 15/05/2020, at 20:01, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

I wasn’t sure if you were burning them as mp3 or audio cd’s
But yes the mp3 will be fine if the car plays it,

Of course I don’t need to point out that if your car has Bluetooth or an input 
jack or even usb you could put the books on your phone or your wifes and they 
can play from there.

A lot more books on the phone and less cd’s in the car.

From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Friday, 15 May 2020 8:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Writible CDs and DVDs

Hi Simon,
I think you missed my original email where I said I was burning MP3  formatted 
audio books. So the play time is definitely more then 80minutes. I know the CD 
player in her car can play MP3 format. In fact the CD I burned the other day 
equates to about 18 hours play time. One thing, burning MP3  files on to a 
blank CD with the Mac is way easier then on my old windows machine. It took me 
about five minutes to work out how to do it.




On 14/05/2020, at 18:35, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

Yes you can also get DVDs that hold approximately 8.5GB

Dual layer dvd.

However if you are wanting to play these books as audio then it’s n

Re: Blutooth connectivity and VoiceOver in the car

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Come to think of it, I haven’t really tried since iOS 13 came out so I might 
have to give it another go. Actually I’ll just turn on Voiceover on my wife’s 
phone next time we get into the car to see what happens. 

> On 18/05/2020, at 12:38, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> As I mentioned in the other thread, we have the 2019 RAV4 Hybrid, and VO 
> voice will remain going through the iPhone and the music and audio book 
> stream will go through the vehicle audio system.  I believe that it is normal 
> to work this way.  Similar to when connecting your iPhone to a Bluetooth 
> speaker in your house, VO usually remains attached to the iPhone and the rest 
> goes out the Bluetooth speaker.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 17, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Ours is a 2018, not sure if anything has changed in the newer model  but I 
> lose VoiceOver  with bluetooth as well. Unless there is something in the 
> audio settings in the car we can change. But not really that bothered as my 
> wife doesn’t like music or audio books while she is driving as it is too 
> distracting. We’ve done it a few times but she prefers silence. 
> 
>> On 18/05/2020, at 11:55, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> My son has a 2014 Rav 4. I can connect my iPhone to his car using Bluetooth, 
>> and voiceover continues to work normally. You might give this a try.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 15:26, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, we only have the one USB port on the dash next to the stereo unit. 
>> Unfortunately our Toyota RAV4 does not have Apple car play so I lose 
>> Voiceover as soon as I connect my phone to the car. I can’t even seem to get 
>> VoiceOver to come through the car speakers, but I’m guessing Apple car play 
>> would allow voiceover through the phone while   connected. 
>> 
>>> On 18/05/2020, at 03:51, Bradford Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That would be nice.
>>> We have a 2012 Subaru Outback with only one USB port, which is located in 
>>> the center console compartment.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 17, 2020, at 10:24, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Also, note that not all USB ports specifically connect to the audio system 
>>> in a vehicle.  We have at least five in our machine, and only the one in 
>>> the little cubby thing under the main controls area is actually connected 
>>> to the audio system.  The rest are simply charging ports.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 17, 2020, at 8:33 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense to have a USB port in the 
>>> compartment of the center console.  You can connect a device such as an MP3 
>>> or other player which can be kept in the console, and then controlled by 
>>> the car’s radio.  Much better than plugging the MP3 player into the car 
>>> radio itself and having the wire and the player in the way.  I think this 
>>> is well thought out. 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 17, 2020, at 05:33, Simon A Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Makes a lot of sense,
>>>  
>>> Ask her to look in the centre console and see if there is a USB port in 
>>> there,
>>>  
>>> Strangest place I’ve ever heard of putting a usb port but car manufacturers 
>>> do some dum shit.
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  >> > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>>> Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2020 1:58 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Writible CDs and DVDs
>>>  
>>> Absolutely’, met wife and I use bluetooth and our phones in the car, but as 
>>> I’m burning these CDs for a work colleague of mine and she doesn’t think 
>>> she has bluetooth or USB in her car I figured CDs were the way to go. She 
>>> might have Bluetooth but as she parks about a 1klm away from work so she 
>>> can get exercise walking to work I can’t really check her car.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15/05/2020, at 20:01, Simon A Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Petrus,
>>>  
>>> I wasn’t sure if you were burning them as mp3 or audio cd’s
>>> But yes the mp3 will be fine if the car plays it,
>>>  
>>> Of course I don’t need to point out that if your car has Bluetooth or an 
>>> input jack or even usb you could put the books on your phone or your wifes 
>>> and they can play from there.
>>>  
>>> A lot more books on the phone and less cd’s in the car.

Re: Blutooth connectivity and VoiceOver in the car

[Brad Snyder]

That is how it works on my son’s Rav 4.  Same on the 2012 Subaru that my wife 
and I have.

- Brad -




On May 17, 2020, at 19:38, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Petrus,

As I mentioned in the other thread, we have the 2019 RAV4 Hybrid, and VO voice 
will remain going through the iPhone and the music and audio book stream will 
go through the vehicle audio system.  I believe that it is normal to work this 
way.  Similar to when connecting your iPhone to a Bluetooth speaker in your 
house, VO usually remains attached to the iPhone and the rest goes out the 
Bluetooth speaker.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 17, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Petrus Tuerlings mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ours is a 2018, not sure if anything has changed in the newer model  but I lose 
VoiceOver  with bluetooth as well. Unless there is something in the audio 
settings in the car we can change. But not really that bothered as my wife 
doesn’t like music or audio books while she is driving as it is too 
distracting. We’ve done it a few times but she prefers silence. 

> On 18/05/2020, at 11:55, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> My son has a 2014 Rav 4. I can connect my iPhone to his car using Bluetooth, 
> and voiceover continues to work normally. You might give this a try.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 17, 2020, at 15:26, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, we only have the one USB port on the dash next to the stereo unit. 
> Unfortunately our Toyota RAV4 does not have Apple car play so I lose 
> Voiceover as soon as I connect my phone to the car. I can’t even seem to get 
> VoiceOver to come through the car speakers, but I’m guessing Apple car play 
> would allow voiceover through the phone while   connected. 
> 
>> On 18/05/2020, at 03:51, Bradford Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> That would be nice.
>> We have a 2012 Subaru Outback with only one USB port, which is located in 
>> the center console compartment.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 10:24, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Also, note that not all USB ports specifically connect to the audio system 
>> in a vehicle.  We have at least five in our machine, and only the one in the 
>> little cubby thing under the main controls area is actually connected to the 
>> audio system.  The rest are simply charging ports.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 8:33 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense to have a USB port in the 
>> compartment of the center console.  You can connect a device such as an MP3 
>> or other player which can be kept in the console, and then controlled by the 
>> car’s radio.  Much better than plugging the MP3 player into the car radio 
>> itself and having the wire and the player in the way.  I think this is well 
>> thought out. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 05:33, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Makes a lot of sense,
>>  
>> Ask her to look in the centre console and see if there is a USB port in 
>> there,
>>  
>> Strangest place I’ve ever heard of putting a usb port but car manufacturers 
>> do some dum shit.
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2020 1:58 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Writible CDs and DVDs
>>  
>> Absolutely’, met wife and I use bluetooth and our phones in the car, but as 
>> I’m burning these CDs for a work colleague of mine and she doesn’t think she 
>> has bluetooth or USB in her car I figured CDs were the way to go. She might 
>> have Bluetooth but as she parks about a 1klm away from work so she can get 
>> exercise walking to work I can’t really check her car.  
>> 
>> 
>> On 15/05/2020, at 20:01, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Petrus,
>>  
>> I wasn’t sure if you were burning them as mp3 or audio cd’s
>> But yes the mp3 will be fine if the car plays it,
>>  
>> Of course I don’t need to point out that if your car has Bluetooth or an 
>> input jack or even usb you could put the books on your phone or your wifes 
>> and they can play from there.
>>  
>> A lot more books on the phone and less cd’s in the car.
>>  
>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > >On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Friday, 15 May 2020 8:00 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Re: Blutooth connectivity and VoiceOver in the car

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Petrus,

As I mentioned in the other thread, we have the 2019 RAV4 Hybrid, and VO voice 
will remain going through the iPhone and the music and audio book stream will 
go through the vehicle audio system.  I believe that it is normal to work this 
way.  Similar to when connecting your iPhone to a Bluetooth speaker in your 
house, VO usually remains attached to the iPhone and the rest goes out the 
Bluetooth speaker.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 17, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Ours is a 2018, not sure if anything has changed in the newer model  but I lose 
VoiceOver  with bluetooth as well. Unless there is something in the audio 
settings in the car we can change. But not really that bothered as my wife 
doesn’t like music or audio books while she is driving as it is too 
distracting. We’ve done it a few times but she prefers silence. 

> On 18/05/2020, at 11:55, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> My son has a 2014 Rav 4. I can connect my iPhone to his car using Bluetooth, 
> and voiceover continues to work normally. You might give this a try.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 17, 2020, at 15:26, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, we only have the one USB port on the dash next to the stereo unit. 
> Unfortunately our Toyota RAV4 does not have Apple car play so I lose 
> Voiceover as soon as I connect my phone to the car. I can’t even seem to get 
> VoiceOver to come through the car speakers, but I’m guessing Apple car play 
> would allow voiceover through the phone while   connected. 
> 
>> On 18/05/2020, at 03:51, Bradford Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> That would be nice.
>> We have a 2012 Subaru Outback with only one USB port, which is located in 
>> the center console compartment.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 10:24, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Also, note that not all USB ports specifically connect to the audio system 
>> in a vehicle.  We have at least five in our machine, and only the one in the 
>> little cubby thing under the main controls area is actually connected to the 
>> audio system.  The rest are simply charging ports.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 8:33 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense to have a USB port in the 
>> compartment of the center console.  You can connect a device such as an MP3 
>> or other player which can be kept in the console, and then controlled by the 
>> car’s radio.  Much better than plugging the MP3 player into the car radio 
>> itself and having the wire and the player in the way.  I think this is well 
>> thought out. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 05:33, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Makes a lot of sense,
>>  
>> Ask her to look in the centre console and see if there is a USB port in 
>> there,
>>  
>> Strangest place I’ve ever heard of putting a usb port but car manufacturers 
>> do some dum shit.
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2020 1:58 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Writible CDs and DVDs
>>  
>> Absolutely’, met wife and I use bluetooth and our phones in the car, but as 
>> I’m burning these CDs for a work colleague of mine and she doesn’t think she 
>> has bluetooth or USB in her car I figured CDs were the way to go. She might 
>> have Bluetooth but as she parks about a 1klm away from work so she can get 
>> exercise walking to work I can’t really check her car.  
>> 
>> 
>> On 15/05/2020, at 20:01, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Petrus,
>>  
>> I wasn’t sure if you were burning them as mp3 or audio cd’s
>> But yes the mp3 will be fine if the car plays it,
>>  
>> Of course I don’t need to point out that if your car has Bluetooth or an 
>> input jack or even usb you could put the books on your phone or your wifes 
>> and they can play from there.
>>  
>> A lot more books on the phone and less cd’s in the car.
>>  
>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > >On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Friday, 15 May 2020 8:00 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Writible CDs and DVDs
>>  
>> Hi Simon,
>> I think you missed my original email where I said I was burning MP3  
>> formatted audio books. So the play time is definitely more then 

Blutooth connectivity and VoiceOver in the car

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Ours is a 2018, not sure if anything has changed in the newer model  but I lose 
VoiceOver  with bluetooth as well. Unless there is something in the audio 
settings in the car we can change. But not really that bothered as my wife 
doesn’t like music or audio books while she is driving as it is too 
distracting. We’ve done it a few times but she prefers silence. 

> On 18/05/2020, at 11:55, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> My son has a 2014 Rav 4. I can connect my iPhone to his car using Bluetooth, 
> and voiceover continues to work normally. You might give this a try.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 17, 2020, at 15:26, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Yes, we only have the one USB port on the dash next to the stereo unit. 
> Unfortunately our Toyota RAV4 does not have Apple car play so I lose 
> Voiceover as soon as I connect my phone to the car. I can’t even seem to get 
> VoiceOver to come through the car speakers, but I’m guessing Apple car play 
> would allow voiceover through the phone while   connected. 
> 
>> On 18/05/2020, at 03:51, Bradford Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> That would be nice.
>> We have a 2012 Subaru Outback with only one USB port, which is located in 
>> the center console compartment.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 10:24, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Also, note that not all USB ports specifically connect to the audio system 
>> in a vehicle.  We have at least five in our machine, and only the one in the 
>> little cubby thing under the main controls area is actually connected to the 
>> audio system.  The rest are simply charging ports.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 8:33 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense to have a USB port in the 
>> compartment of the center console.  You can connect a device such as an MP3 
>> or other player which can be kept in the console, and then controlled by the 
>> car’s radio.  Much better than plugging the MP3 player into the car radio 
>> itself and having the wire and the player in the way.  I think this is well 
>> thought out. 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 05:33, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Makes a lot of sense,
>>  
>> Ask her to look in the centre console and see if there is a USB port in 
>> there,
>>  
>> Strangest place I’ve ever heard of putting a usb port but car manufacturers 
>> do some dum shit.
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2020 1:58 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Writible CDs and DVDs
>>  
>> Absolutely’, met wife and I use bluetooth and our phones in the car, but as 
>> I’m burning these CDs for a work colleague of mine and she doesn’t think she 
>> has bluetooth or USB in her car I figured CDs were the way to go. She might 
>> have Bluetooth but as she parks about a 1klm away from work so she can get 
>> exercise walking to work I can’t really check her car.  
>> 
>> 
>> On 15/05/2020, at 20:01, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Petrus,
>>  
>> I wasn’t sure if you were burning them as mp3 or audio cd’s
>> But yes the mp3 will be fine if the car plays it,
>>  
>> Of course I don’t need to point out that if your car has Bluetooth or an 
>> input jack or even usb you could put the books on your phone or your wifes 
>> and they can play from there.
>>  
>> A lot more books on the phone and less cd’s in the car.
>>  
>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > >On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Friday, 15 May 2020 8:00 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Writible CDs and DVDs
>>  
>> Hi Simon,
>> I think you missed my original email where I said I was burning MP3  
>> formatted audio books. So the play time is definitely more then 80minutes. I 
>> know the CD player in her car can play MP3 format. In fact the CD I burned 
>> the other day equates to about 18 hours play time. One thing, burning MP3  
>> files on to a blank CD with the Mac is way easier then on my old windows 
>> machine. It took me about five minutes to work out how to do it. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 14/05/2020, at 18:35, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Petrus,
>>  
>> Yes you can also get DVDs that hold approximately 8.5GB
>>  
>> Dual layer dvd.
>>  
>> However if you are wanting to play these books as audio then it’s not the cd 
>> capacity but the playing time.
>>  
>> The cd