Re: Change to quick key behaviour in Safari in Mavericks

2013-10-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

before, and still now, VO command F brought you to pop up boxes and buttons 
rather quickly.

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:

> Ed -
> Although I can sympathize with your frustration with having combo boxes/popup 
> buttons mixed in the b quick key, it is also a reason to celebrate since it 
> was not possible that I could find to quickly navigate to a popup 
> button/combo box before.  This was equally as frustrating to me.  I haven’t 
> experimented with this yet but any way to quickly navigate to them is better 
> than no way at all.  Maybe I was just missing something before since I am a 
> very new user.  I would like a way to move to these elements separately.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Edward Green  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use quick keys to navigate web elements in Safari.
> 
> In Mountain Lion, when I pressed b to move between buttons, it would cycle 
> through what I traditionally think of as buttons which might be search, go, 
> submit etc.  However, using b now seems also to bring in pop up buttons (what 
> Windows calls combo boxes).  Has anyone else noticed this? While I suppose 
> they are buttons according to Safari, I find it a bit annoying.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed
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Re: Change to quick key behaviour in Safari in Mavericks

2013-10-23 Thread Geoff Stephens
I would encourage everyone who was using these keyboard apps to update them or 
completely uninstall them.  Don’t just let them linger unattended if you 
upgraded from Mountain Lion.
Several very odd keyboard anomalies have been solved since I updated them.
  One very strange thing was that when I opened an app from Finder, then closed 
the app, I could no longer open another app from finder without moving focus 
away from Finder and returning.  I also think VO-J was affected in certain 
circumstances.  There were other keyboard weirdnesses that I can’t adequately 
document at this point.

Now that I have updated both and checked to make sure everything is set 
correctly, things have smoothed out considerably for me with Mavericks and the 
keyboard.



On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

No, I believe the companion app is called PC Keyboard Hack. It’s an alternative 
to Sharpkeys.
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On 24/10/2013, at 1:27 pm, Geoff Stephens  wrote:

> Ed -
> Although I can sympathize with your frustration with having combo boxes/popup 
> buttons mixed in the b quick key, it is also a reason to celebrate since it 
> was not possible that I could find to quickly navigate to a popup 
> button/combo box before.  This was equally as frustrating to me.  I haven’t 
> experimented with this yet but any way to quickly navigate to them is better 
> than no way at all.  Maybe I was just missing something before since I am a 
> very new user.  I would like a way to move to these elements separately.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Edward Green  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use quick keys to navigate web elements in Safari.
> 
> In Mountain Lion, when I pressed b to move between buttons, it would cycle 
> through what I traditionally think of as buttons which might be search, go, 
> submit etc.  However, using b now seems also to bring in pop up buttons (what 
> Windows calls combo boxes).  Has anyone else noticed this? While I suppose 
> they are buttons according to Safari, I find it a bit annoying.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed
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Re: Change to quick key behaviour in Safari in Mavericks

2013-10-23 Thread Jonathan Mosen
No, I believe the companion app is called PC Keyboard Hack. It’s an alternative 
to Sharpkeys.
Jonathan Mosen
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On 24/10/2013, at 1:27 pm, Geoff Stephens  wrote:

> Ed -
> Although I can sympathize with your frustration with having combo boxes/popup 
> buttons mixed in the b quick key, it is also a reason to celebrate since it 
> was not possible that I could find to quickly navigate to a popup 
> button/combo box before.  This was equally as frustrating to me.  I haven’t 
> experimented with this yet but any way to quickly navigate to them is better 
> than no way at all.  Maybe I was just missing something before since I am a 
> very new user.  I would like a way to move to these elements separately.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Edward Green  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use quick keys to navigate web elements in Safari.
> 
> In Mountain Lion, when I pressed b to move between buttons, it would cycle 
> through what I traditionally think of as buttons which might be search, go, 
> submit etc.  However, using b now seems also to bring in pop up buttons (what 
> Windows calls combo boxes).  Has anyone else noticed this? While I suppose 
> they are buttons according to Safari, I find it a bit annoying.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed
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Re: Change to quick key behaviour in Safari in Mavericks

2013-10-23 Thread Geoff Stephens
Ed -
Although I can sympathize with your frustration with having combo boxes/popup 
buttons mixed in the b quick key, it is also a reason to celebrate since it was 
not possible that I could find to quickly navigate to a popup button/combo box 
before.  This was equally as frustrating to me.  I haven’t experimented with 
this yet but any way to quickly navigate to them is better than no way at all.  
Maybe I was just missing something before since I am a very new user.  I would 
like a way to move to these elements separately.






On Oct 23, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Edward Green  wrote:

Hi,

I use quick keys to navigate web elements in Safari.

In Mountain Lion, when I pressed b to move between buttons, it would cycle 
through what I traditionally think of as buttons which might be search, go, 
submit etc.  However, using b now seems also to bring in pop up buttons (what 
Windows calls combo boxes).  Has anyone else noticed this? While I suppose they 
are buttons according to Safari, I find it a bit annoying.

Thanks,

Ed

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Change to quick key behaviour in Safari in Mavericks

2013-10-23 Thread Edward Green
Hi,

I use quick keys to navigate web elements in Safari.

In Mountain Lion, when I pressed b to move between buttons, it would cycle 
through what I traditionally think of as buttons which might be search, go, 
submit etc.  However, using b now seems also to bring in pop up buttons (what 
Windows calls combo boxes).  Has anyone else noticed this? While I suppose they 
are buttons according to Safari, I find it a bit annoying.

Thanks,

Ed

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