Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-25 Thread ben J. Bloomgren
It's quite easy on the Mac. What I do is,

Open your menu extras with control F8 or Vieux M twice, and then locate the 
menu that's going to lease first Lee said the language is currently under. For 
example, mine says US. Then, either type in the first few letters of the 
language you want to go to, or aerobe down through the menu. Then, either hit 
VO space or enter, and it will change the language. If you want to get back to 
the Lynnwood you were in, I changed the keystrokes to say option space and 
option shift space. Otherwise, you're going to run into a conflict with the 
spotlight search. It's easy enough in iOS with the touch screen. You just go 
down to the button that says next keyboard. You double tap on it, and/or hold.

> On Feb 25, 2016, at 09:59, Seyoon Choi  wrote:
> 
> The only trouble though is that this will change the voice language, a 
> language in which Voiceover speaks in. I can’t seem to figure out how to 
> change the language input settings, such as when you type letter S for 
> example. I would like to type in a different language and easily able to 
> switch.
> Any ideas for both iOS and Mac?
> 
> Seyoon Choi
> syc20...@gmail.com
> YouTube Video Content Producer
> Head of Blindinsider
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> 
>> On Feb 25, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Ben,
>> 
>> I’m not sure what the make and model of my keyboard is, but it is bluetooth, 
>> and I bought it from the Apple store.
>> 
>> Like you, I work in a multilingual environment.  I also regularly use my 
>> bluetooth keyboard to switch input and output languages on my iPhone 6.
>> 
>> What you need to do is make sure that you have enabled the switch language 
>> feature in your Voice Over rotor options.  Then, on your bluetooth keyboard, 
>> simultaneously press the left and right arrow keys until you hear Voice Over 
>> say “Quick Nav on.”  This is a toggle command.  If, after simultaneously 
>> pressing these two keys, VO says “Quick Nav Off,” just press them again, and 
>> VO will let you know that Quick Nav is on.
>> 
>>   Once Quick Nav is on, you can go through your Voice Over rotor options by 
>> simultaneously pressing the up arrow and left arrow to select your previous 
>> rotor option or the up arrow and right arrow to select your next rotor 
>> option.
>> 
>> When you get to the language option, press either the up arrow or down arrow 
>> to select the language you want.  When you get to that language, just move 
>> to a different rotor option, and your new language will take effect.  You 
>> don’t need to hit enter or anything else in order to confirm your language 
>> selection.
>> 
>> Let me know if you have any problems.
>> 
>> Best regards from Austria,
>> 
>> Mike 
>>> On 20,Feb,2016, at 23:13, ben J. Bloomgren  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello List,
>>> 
>>> I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've got a 
>>> question though.
>>> 
>>> As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to do 
>>> it generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth 
>>> keyboard. I tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not 
>>> working.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ben
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Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-25 Thread Seyoon Choi
The only trouble though is that this will change the voice language, a language 
in which Voiceover speaks in. I can’t seem to figure out how to change the 
language input settings, such as when you type letter S for example. I would 
like to type in a different language and easily able to switch.
Any ideas for both iOS and Mac?

Seyoon Choi
syc20...@gmail.com
YouTube Video Content Producer
Head of Blindinsider
www.blindinsider.com
Technology news, podcasts, videos and lifestyle for blind and visually impaired

> On Feb 25, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hello Ben,
> 
> I’m not sure what the make and model of my keyboard is, but it is bluetooth, 
> and I bought it from the Apple store.
> 
> Like you, I work in a multilingual environment.  I also regularly use my 
> bluetooth keyboard to switch input and output languages on my iPhone 6.
> 
> What you need to do is make sure that you have enabled the switch language 
> feature in your Voice Over rotor options.  Then, on your bluetooth keyboard, 
> simultaneously press the left and right arrow keys until you hear Voice Over 
> say “Quick Nav on.”  This is a toggle command.  If, after simultaneously 
> pressing these two keys, VO says “Quick Nav Off,” just press them again, and 
> VO will let you know that Quick Nav is on.
> 
>   Once Quick Nav is on, you can go through your Voice Over rotor options by 
> simultaneously pressing the up arrow and left arrow to select your previous 
> rotor option or the up arrow and right arrow to select your next rotor option.
> 
> When you get to the language option, press either the up arrow or down arrow 
> to select the language you want.  When you get to that language, just move to 
> a different rotor option, and your new language will take effect.  You don’t 
> need to hit enter or anything else in order to confirm your language 
> selection.
> 
> Let me know if you have any problems.
> 
> Best regards from Austria,
> 
> Mike 
>> On 20,Feb,2016, at 23:13, ben J. Bloomgren  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello List,
>> 
>> I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've got a 
>> question though.
>> 
>> As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to do it 
>> generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth keyboard. I 
>> tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not working.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
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Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-25 Thread Mike Busboom
Hello Ben,

I’m not sure what the make and model of my keyboard is, but it is bluetooth, 
and I bought it from the Apple store.

Like you, I work in a multilingual environment.  I also regularly use my 
bluetooth keyboard to switch input and output languages on my iPhone 6.

What you need to do is make sure that you have enabled the switch language 
feature in your Voice Over rotor options.  Then, on your bluetooth keyboard, 
simultaneously press the left and right arrow keys until you hear Voice Over 
say “Quick Nav on.”  This is a toggle command.  If, after simultaneously 
pressing these two keys, VO says “Quick Nav Off,” just press them again, and VO 
will let you know that Quick Nav is on.

   Once Quick Nav is on, you can go through your Voice Over rotor options by 
simultaneously pressing the up arrow and left arrow to select your previous 
rotor option or the up arrow and right arrow to select your next rotor option.

When you get to the language option, press either the up arrow or down arrow to 
select the language you want.  When you get to that language, just move to a 
different rotor option, and your new language will take effect.  You don’t need 
to hit enter or anything else in order to confirm your language selection.

Let me know if you have any problems.

Best regards from Austria,

Mike 
> On 20,Feb,2016, at 23:13, ben J. Bloomgren  wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've got a 
> question though.
> 
> As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to do it 
> generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth keyboard. I 
> tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not working.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ben
> 
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Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-22 Thread Ben J. Bloomgren
Yes, that I can do. it's just that getting to the on-screen keyboard with the 
Bluetooth keyboard enabled is a bit tricky.

Ben
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anne Robertson 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 01:40
  Subject: Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard


  Hello Ben,


  If you have the virtual keyboard showing while using your external keyboard, 
can you get to the Next Keyboard button?
  Changing the spoken language changes the Braille input and output, but they 
are both part of VoiceOver which the keyboard is not.


  Cheers,


  Anne




On 22 Feb 2016, at 02:16, Ben J. Bloomgren  
wrote:


Seyoon, Ann and all,

Cmd+ctrl+space doesn't work either. Ann, by changing languages, I didn't 
just mean cycling through Voiceover languages in the language rotor. I'm trying 
to literally change the keyboard layout between languages as the next keyboard 
button would do on the touch screen.

Thanks,

Ben
  - Original Message - 
  From: Seyoon Choi
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 16:23
  Subject: Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard


  Try Command control space and see if that gets you anywhere. I am not 
100% sure though


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  Head of Blindinsider
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On Feb 20, 2016, at 4:13 PM, ben J. Bloomgren 
 wrote:


Hello List,

I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've 
got a question though.

As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to 
do it generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth keyboard. 
I tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not working.

Thanks,

Ben

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Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ben,

If you have the virtual keyboard showing while using your external keyboard, 
can you get to the Next Keyboard button?
Changing the spoken language changes the Braille input and output, but they are 
both part of VoiceOver which the keyboard is not.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 22 Feb 2016, at 02:16, Ben J. Bloomgren  wrote:
> 
> Seyoon, Ann and all,
>  
> Cmd+ctrl+space doesn't work either. Ann, by changing languages, I didn't just 
> mean cycling through Voiceover languages in the language rotor. I'm trying to 
> literally change the keyboard layout between languages as the next keyboard 
> button would do on the touch screen.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Ben
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Seyoon Choi <mailto:syc20...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 16:23
>> Subject: Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard
>> 
>> Try Command control space and see if that gets you anywhere. I am not 100% 
>> sure though
>> 
>> Seyoon Choi
>> syc20...@gmail.com <mailto:syc20...@gmail.com>
>> YouTube Video Content Producer
>> Head of Blindinsider
>> www.blindinsider.com <http://www.blindinsider.com/>
>> Technology news, podcasts, videos and lifestyle for blind and visually 
>> impaired
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 4:13 PM, ben J. Bloomgren >> <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello List,
>>> 
>>> I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've got a 
>>> question though.
>>> 
>>> As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to do 
>>> it generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth 
>>> keyboard. I tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not 
>>> working.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ben
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Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-21 Thread Ben J. Bloomgren
Being that Cmd+space invokes the spotlight, I've changed it to option+space and 
option+shift+space. Honestly, on the mac, I use the menu more than I use the 
keystroke. On iOS, there is no such menu as per my experience.

Ben
  - Original Message - 
  From: Seyoon Choi 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 18:18
  Subject: Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard


  I understand your situation, and was wondering that self to be able to do it 
on my Mac. I remember Command spacebar use to work, and now I don’t even know 
if there is any quicker way of switching languages that appears after the key 
combo is pressed.

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On Feb 21, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Ben J. Bloomgren  
wrote:


Seyoon, Ann and all,

Cmd+ctrl+space doesn't work either. Ann, by changing languages, I didn't 
just mean cycling through Voiceover languages in the language rotor. I'm trying 
to literally change the keyboard layout between languages as the next keyboard 
button would do on the touch screen.

Thanks,

Ben
  - Original Message - 
  From: Seyoon Choi
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 16:23
  Subject: Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard


  Try Command control space and see if that gets you anywhere. I am not 
100% sure though


  Seyoon Choi
  syc20...@gmail.com
  YouTube Video Content Producer
  Head of Blindinsider
  www.blindinsider.com
  Technology news, podcasts, videos and lifestyle for blind and visually 
impaired


On Feb 20, 2016, at 4:13 PM, ben J. Bloomgren 
 wrote:


Hello List,

I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've 
got a question though.

As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to 
do it generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth keyboard. 
I tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not working.

Thanks,

Ben

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Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-21 Thread Seyoon Choi
I understand your situation, and was wondering that self to be able to do it on 
my Mac. I remember Command spacebar use to work, and now I don’t even know if 
there is any quicker way of switching languages that appears after the key 
combo is pressed.
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Head of Blindinsider
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Technology news, podcasts, videos and lifestyle for blind and visually impaired

> On Feb 21, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Ben J. Bloomgren  
> wrote:
> 
> Seyoon, Ann and all,
>  
> Cmd+ctrl+space doesn't work either. Ann, by changing languages, I didn't just 
> mean cycling through Voiceover languages in the language rotor. I'm trying to 
> literally change the keyboard layout between languages as the next keyboard 
> button would do on the touch screen.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Ben
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Seyoon Choi <mailto:syc20...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 16:23
>> Subject: Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard
>> 
>> Try Command control space and see if that gets you anywhere. I am not 100% 
>> sure though
>> 
>> Seyoon Choi
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>>> As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to do 
>>> it generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth 
>>> keyboard. I tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not 
>>> working.
>>> 
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Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-21 Thread Ben J. Bloomgren
Seyoon, Ann and all,

Cmd+ctrl+space doesn't work either. Ann, by changing languages, I didn't just 
mean cycling through Voiceover languages in the language rotor. I'm trying to 
literally change the keyboard layout between languages as the next keyboard 
button would do on the touch screen.

Thanks,

Ben
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  Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 16:23
  Subject: Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard


  Try Command control space and see if that gets you anywhere. I am not 100% 
sure though


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On Feb 20, 2016, at 4:13 PM, ben J. Bloomgren  
wrote:


Hello List,

I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've got a 
question though.

As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to do 
it generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth keyboard. I 
tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not working.

Thanks,

Ben

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Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-21 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ben,

I don’t know whether this works, but have you tried the left and up arrows 
together to go through the rotor options, then when you land on Language, use 
the up or down arrow.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 20 Feb 2016, at 23:13, ben J. Bloomgren  wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've got a 
> question though.
> 
> As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to do it 
> generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth keyboard. I 
> tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not working.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ben
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Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-20 Thread Seyoon Choi
Try Command control space and see if that gets you anywhere. I am not 100% sure 
though

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> On Feb 20, 2016, at 4:13 PM, ben J. Bloomgren  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've got a 
> question though.
> 
> As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to do it 
> generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth keyboard. I 
> tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not working.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ben
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Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-20 Thread ben J. Bloomgren
Hello List,

I just bought an Apple Magic Keyboard today, and I'm loving it. I've got a 
question though.

As a major linguaphile, changing languages is essential. I know how to do it 
generally within iOS, but how does one do so with the Bluetooth keyboard. I 
tried to do it with cmd+space and option+space, but it's not working.

Thanks,

Ben

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