I guess I was misaken, JPR.  Read this from Alex.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Jurgensen [mailto:asquare...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:35 PM
To: Kevin Gibbs
Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB


Hi, 
Kevin:

You can use any old iTunes. It won't ask you to sync, or do any harm. It
will just let you turn on Universal Access features.

Please post this to the list, as I can't. Of course if you don't mind.

Regards,
Alex,


Alex Jurgensen,
AWEBSIGHT Administrator,
ICE Customer Care,
VoiceOver Trainer,
asquare...@visionmail.uni.cc 

Visit us on the web at: http://www.visionmail.uni.cc/

On 2009-09-25, at 6:41 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:


Yes, but you'd have to turn it on using the iTunes acount to which the
iPhone is conected. So, you'd have to use the iPhone owner's computer and
iTunes acount, not JPR's.
K.

-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB


or you can hook it up and turn it on in itunes I believe.

On 2009-09-25, at 7:27 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:


You have to ask the sighted friend to turn it on in preferences, I think.
K.

-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Rykiel
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:30 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB


Dear Chris,
a friend of mine has one of these. Can you simply tell me how to turn v o on
and off on his device so I can give it a try. 
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chris  <mailto:cblo...@aol.com> Blouch 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB

It's called voiceover and as something that makes a device accessible via
speech and controls, it is voiceover, but with a different voice (not Alex)
and a phone-specific set of gestures instead of keyboard controls. That
said, it's included on every iPhone 3GS and the newer iPod Touch. Previous
models didn't have the hardware performance to run this so there is no
upgrade to get VO on the older devices.

CB

Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: 

Sorry for a very down-to-earth question, but does the IPhone come with V O
as well?
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com>  
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB


Some have difficulty comprehending what is new and, by definition, not 
well understood. So they define the new in terms of what's known from 
the past, but when something is a revolution rather than an evolution 
the comparisons fail. Some will lodge those failures as the fault of 
what was being measured and dismiss it as being flawed. Others, more 
rarely, will correctly realize that the measurement framework has failed 
and reevaluate their worldview. The NFB has been measuring sharks for a 
long while and Apple brought in an leopard. It will take time for the 
definition of 'good' to be redefined.

CB

william lomas wrote:
> they can soon praise the iPhone yet slam the mac?
> hyppocrits
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