Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-27 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Dear Paul,

I also register this behaviour both on sierra and on Catalina.  Mostly, these 
system dialogues are not that important but occasionally they are.  The way I 
explore them to act upon the ones that are important is to invoke application 
chooser menu.  Only then will you be able to arrow down the list of these 
windows and one of them will be system related.  Expand them if you need to 
with right arrow key and vo=spacebar or return on the ones that are either 
system alarms or notifications or something else calling for your attention.

If you don’t find anything interesting - as some of these windows are empty, 
escape will get you out of the application chooser menu.

Best wishes & stay well

Andrew
> On 27 Mar 2020, at 12:21, Brianna Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Never knew you could do it that way before. Thanks!
> 
> Brianna 
> 
> On Mar 26, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brianna,
>> 
>> This is a standard VO Trackpad Commander gesture, and it works without 
>> positioning your hand sideways, with the palm oriented toward the center of 
>> the trackpad.  Just keep your fingers close together, and the outside finger 
>> close to the edge of the trackpad, and the gesture will perform the action 
>> as you described.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:16, Brianna Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys, 
>> 
>> I have my trackpad commander turned on. Now, I don't remember if I had to 
>> set this up as I've had it for a while,  but with two fingers on the right, 
>> I double-tap and can see my system dialogues. On the other side, I can do 
>> the same thing and access the application chooser. 
>> Now, when you do this, you have to position your hands sideways, so that 
>> your palms face the part of the Mac where your wrists would go while typing. 
>> Hopefully I've explained that well enough. 
>> Just figured it was another way to help. 
>> 
>> Brianna
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I hear VO make these kinds of announcements and find there is nothing.  I 
>>> hear it frequently on the log-on screen.  It is nothing new to Catalina.  
>>> I'm still running High Sierra on my Mac mini, and hear these announcements 
>>> all the time.  I’ve learned to not worry about it.  
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 09:46, Paul Hopewell >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I have recently updated my iMac to the latest Catalina 10.15.4. From time 
>>> to time and after initial logon I hear a message that 5 system dialogues 
>>> are active. How can I find these dialogues and fix them?
>>> Many thanks and keep well … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-27 Thread Brianna Snyder 
Hi, 

Never knew you could do it that way before. Thanks!

Brianna 

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brianna,
> 
> This is a standard VO Trackpad Commander gesture, and it works without 
> positioning your hand sideways, with the palm oriented toward the center of 
> the trackpad.  Just keep your fingers close together, and the outside finger 
> close to the edge of the trackpad, and the gesture will perform the action as 
> you described.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:16, Brianna Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys, 
> 
> I have my trackpad commander turned on. Now, I don't remember if I had to set 
> this up as I've had it for a while,  but with two fingers on the right, I 
> double-tap and can see my system dialogues. On the other side, I can do the 
> same thing and access the application chooser. 
> Now, when you do this, you have to position your hands sideways, so that your 
> palms face the part of the Mac where your wrists would go while typing. 
> Hopefully I've explained that well enough. 
> Just figured it was another way to help. 
> 
> Brianna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I hear VO make these kinds of announcements and find there is nothing.  I 
>> hear it frequently on the log-on screen.  It is nothing new to Catalina.  
>> I'm still running High Sierra on my Mac mini, and hear these announcements 
>> all the time.  I’ve learned to not worry about it.  
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 09:46, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I have recently updated my iMac to the latest Catalina 10.15.4. From time to 
>> time and after initial logon I hear a message that 5 system dialogues are 
>> active. How can I find these dialogues and fix them?
>> Many thanks and keep well … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Brad Snyder 
Hi Brianna,

This is a standard VO Trackpad Commander gesture, and it works without 
positioning your hand sideways, with the palm oriented toward the center of the 
trackpad.  Just keep your fingers close together, and the outside finger close 
to the edge of the trackpad, and the gesture will perform the action as you 
described.

HTH

- Brad -


On Mar 26, 2020, at 13:16, Brianna Snyder  wrote:

Hi guys, 

I have my trackpad commander turned on. Now, I don't remember if I had to set 
this up as I've had it for a while,  but with two fingers on the right, I 
double-tap and can see my system dialogues. On the other side, I can do the 
same thing and access the application chooser. 
Now, when you do this, you have to position your hands sideways, so that your 
palms face the part of the Mac where your wrists would go while typing. 
Hopefully I've explained that well enough. 
Just figured it was another way to help. 

Brianna


On Mar 26, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

> I hear VO make these kinds of announcements and find there is nothing.  I 
> hear it frequently on the log-on screen.  It is nothing new to Catalina.  I'm 
> still running High Sierra on my Mac mini, and hear these announcements all 
> the time.  I’ve learned to not worry about it.  
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 26, 2020, at 09:46, Paul Hopewell  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have recently updated my iMac to the latest Catalina 10.15.4. From time to 
> time and after initial logon I hear a message that 5 system dialogues are 
> active. How can I find these dialogues and fix them?
> Many thanks and keep well … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Brianna Snyder 
Hi guys, 

I have my trackpad commander turned on. Now, I don't remember if I had to set 
this up as I've had it for a while,  but with two fingers on the right, I 
double-tap and can see my system dialogues. On the other side, I can do the 
same thing and access the application chooser. 
Now, when you do this, you have to position your hands sideways, so that your 
palms face the part of the Mac where your wrists would go while typing. 
Hopefully I've explained that well enough. 
Just figured it was another way to help. 

Brianna


> On Mar 26, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I hear VO make these kinds of announcements and find there is nothing.  I 
> hear it frequently on the log-on screen.  It is nothing new to Catalina.  I'm 
> still running High Sierra on my Mac mini, and hear these announcements all 
> the time.  I’ve learned to not worry about it.  
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 26, 2020, at 09:46, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have recently updated my iMac to the latest Catalina 10.15.4. From time to 
> time and after initial logon I hear a message that 5 system dialogues are 
> active. How can I find these dialogues and fix them?
> Many thanks and keep well … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Brad Snyder 
I hear VO make these kinds of announcements and find there is nothing.  I hear 
it frequently on the log-on screen.  It is nothing new to Catalina.  I'm still 
running High Sierra on my Mac mini, and hear these announcements all the time.  
I’ve learned to not worry about it.  

- Brad -


On Mar 26, 2020, at 09:46, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

Hello,
I have recently updated my iMac to the latest Catalina 10.15.4. From time to 
time and after initial logon I hear a message that 5 system dialogues are 
active. How can I find these dialogues and fix them?
Many thanks and keep well … Paul Hopewell

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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
   This is why I avoid changing defaults as much as possible. Keeps the 
confusion level low.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/26/2020 8:21 AM, Dave Carlson wrote:
Strange, Options +W works fine on my keyboard. Why is that? Ah. perhaps 
I’ve set this up in my keyboard preferences….sorry about that.



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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Dave Carlson 
Egads. Yet anohter VO hotkey I never used. My brain is starting to hurt…


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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Dave Carlson 
Strange, Options +W works fine on my keyboard. Why is that? Ah. perhaps I’ve 
set this up in my keyboard preferences….sorry about that.


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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Dave Carlson 
Yet one more way. Got to love the Mac. Also with a keyboard that has a full 
number pad, the forward slash button above the “8”.


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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Hi,

System dialogs usually don't appear under the Window Chooser because the Window 
Chooser pertains to the active application.  Use the Application Chooser 
instead, VO-f1-f1, then arrow down and one of the choices will be System 
dialogs.  Arrow right and down any active System dialogs.

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On Mar 26, 2020, at 09:09, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  No Dave. He got 5, very likely they are announcements. By they way. option
+ w is incorrect. It's VO + f2 twice.

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> Options+W opens your Window Chooser.
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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
   No Dave. He got 5, very likely they are announcements. By they way. 
option

+ w is incorrect. It's VO + f2 twice.

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On 3/26/2020 7:53 AM, Dave Carlson wrote:

Options+W opens your Window Chooser.

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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Matt Turner 
Hi, the window chooser is VO+F2 twice quickly.

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> Cool, yet another VO hotkey combination that I never used. But I think he 
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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Dave Carlson 
Cool, yet another VO hotkey combination that I never used. But I think he needs 
to use Options+W to open the Window Chooser.


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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 

   Possibly these are announcements. Try VO + n to access them.

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On 3/26/2020 7:46 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
I have recently updated my iMac to the latest Catalina 10.15.4. From time to 
time and after initial logon I hear a message that 5 system dialogues are 
active. How can I find these dialogues and fix them?
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Re: Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Dave Carlson 
Options+W opens your Window Chooser.

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Finding system dialogues on Mac 10.15.4

2020-03-26 Thread Paul Hopewell 
Hello,
I have recently updated my iMac to the latest Catalina 10.15.4. From time to 
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active. How can I find these dialogues and fix them?
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