RE: Firefox updates.

2020-12-20 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
I agree, and I'm glad Mozilla developers are working on it. Firefox is very 
accessible under Linux and Windows - I've used both. I haven't downloaded the 
Mac OS version yet.

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Subject: Re: Firefox updates.

The voiceover support in Firefox is coming along nicely. There are still a few 
gaps with how it works but it's definitely useable. And certainly having 
another accessible browser on the mac is a good thing.

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:38 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> A couple folks have asked me about why use firefox. I was going to grab some 
> information I had received in a different channel about Firefox and VoiceOver 
> support, but have not had a chance. Perhaps over the weekend, that will be 
> possible.
> but in terms of Safari vs Firefox I believe that Firefox more closely follows 
> the updates to  web standards. There are a couple places where the 
> accessibility development community has had to say you can't use this 
> technique if you plan to support VoiceOver on Macintosh. Hopefully, with 
> Firefox we can get more sites that we can access. Also, you might want to 
> reserve your banking activities to a browser different from news and 
> entertainment. Perhaps on  Youtube you have an extension that allows you to 
> downloads movies but you did not pay for the extension, so it is probably 
> getting paid by looking at your browsing habits and sharing that with 
> advertisers. Better to have a Browser free of such stuff for your money.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Firefox updates.

2020-12-20 Thread John Panarese
  On the Mac, you can change the default web browser in System Preferences in 
the general pane. I believe there is a similar setting on the iPhone in Safari 
settings.


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> On Dec 20, 2020, at 1:01 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> The only problem is that Safari always wants to load.  I have edge on my IOS 
> but safari will load if you press a web link.  So how can you get a browser 
> to load and you don’t want to use safari?
> 
>> On 19 Dec 2020, at 14:27, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> The voiceover support in Firefox is coming along nicely. There are still a 
>> few gaps with how it works but it's definitely useable. And certainly having 
>> another accessible browser on the mac is a good thing.
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:38 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A couple folks have asked me about why use firefox. I was going to grab 
>>> some information I had received in a different channel about Firefox and 
>>> VoiceOver support, but have not had a chance. Perhaps over the weekend, 
>>> that will be possible.
>>> but in terms of Safari vs Firefox I believe that Firefox more closely 
>>> follows the updates to  web standards. There are a couple places where the 
>>> accessibility development community has had to say you can't use this 
>>> technique if you plan to support VoiceOver on Macintosh. Hopefully, with 
>>> Firefox we can get more sites that we can access. Also, you might want to 
>>> reserve your banking activities to a browser different from news and 
>>> entertainment. Perhaps on  Youtube you have an extension that allows you to 
>>> downloads movies but you did not pay for the extension, so it is probably 
>>> getting paid by looking at your browsing habits and sharing that with 
>>> advertisers. Better to have a Browser free of such stuff for your money.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Firefox updates.

2020-12-20 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
The only problem is that Safari always wants to load.  I have edge on my IOS 
but safari will load if you press a web link.  So how can you get a browser to 
load and you don’t want to use safari?

> On 19 Dec 2020, at 14:27, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> The voiceover support in Firefox is coming along nicely. There are still a 
> few gaps with how it works but it's definitely useable. And certainly having 
> another accessible browser on the mac is a good thing.
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:38 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> A couple folks have asked me about why use firefox. I was going to grab some 
>> information I had received in a different channel about Firefox and 
>> VoiceOver support, but have not had a chance. Perhaps over the weekend, that 
>> will be possible.
>> but in terms of Safari vs Firefox I believe that Firefox more closely 
>> follows the updates to  web standards. There are a couple places where the 
>> accessibility development community has had to say you can't use this 
>> technique if you plan to support VoiceOver on Macintosh. Hopefully, with 
>> Firefox we can get more sites that we can access. Also, you might want to 
>> reserve your banking activities to a browser different from news and 
>> entertainment. Perhaps on  Youtube you have an extension that allows you to 
>> downloads movies but you did not pay for the extension, so it is probably 
>> getting paid by looking at your browsing habits and sharing that with 
>> advertisers. Better to have a Browser free of such stuff for your money.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Firefox updates.

2020-12-19 Thread Mike Arrigo
The voiceover support in Firefox is coming along nicely. There are still a few 
gaps with how it works but it's definitely useable. And certainly having 
another accessible browser on the mac is a good thing.

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:38 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> A couple folks have asked me about why use firefox. I was going to grab some 
> information I had received in a different channel about Firefox and VoiceOver 
> support, but have not had a chance. Perhaps over the weekend, that will be 
> possible.
> but in terms of Safari vs Firefox I believe that Firefox more closely follows 
> the updates to  web standards. There are a couple places where the 
> accessibility development community has had to say you can't use this 
> technique if you plan to support VoiceOver on Macintosh. Hopefully, with 
> Firefox we can get more sites that we can access. Also, you might want to 
> reserve your banking activities to a browser different from news and 
> entertainment. Perhaps on  Youtube you have an extension that allows you to 
> downloads movies but you did not pay for the extension, so it is probably 
> getting paid by looking at your browsing habits and sharing that with 
> advertisers. Better to have a Browser free of such stuff for your money.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Firefox updates.

2020-12-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Interesting idea to have one browser for entertainment, and another for 
banking. I'll mull that over. Thanks, as always, John.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:38 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> A couple folks have asked me about why use firefox. I was going to grab some 
> information I had received in a different channel about Firefox and VoiceOver 
> support, but have not had a chance. Perhaps over the weekend, that will be 
> possible.
> but in terms of Safari vs Firefox I believe that Firefox more closely follows 
> the updates to  web standards. There are a couple places where the 
> accessibility development community has had to say you can't use this 
> technique if you plan to support VoiceOver on Macintosh. Hopefully, with 
> Firefox we can get more sites that we can access. Also, you might want to 
> reserve your banking activities to a browser different from news and 
> entertainment. Perhaps on  Youtube you have an extension that allows you to 
> downloads movies but you did not pay for the extension, so it is probably 
> getting paid by looking at your browsing habits and sharing that with 
> advertisers. Better to have a Browser free of such stuff for your money.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
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Firefox updates.

2020-12-18 Thread Jonathan Cohn
A couple folks have asked me about why use firefox. I was going to grab some 
information I had received in a different channel about Firefox and VoiceOver 
support, but have not had a chance. Perhaps over the weekend, that will be 
possible.
but in terms of Safari vs Firefox I believe that Firefox more closely follows 
the updates to  web standards. There are a couple places where the 
accessibility development community has had to say you can't use this technique 
if you plan to support VoiceOver on Macintosh. Hopefully, with Firefox we can 
get more sites that we can access. Also, you might want to reserve your banking 
activities to a browser different from news and entertainment. Perhaps on  
Youtube you have an extension that allows you to downloads movies but you did 
not pay for the extension, so it is probably getting paid by looking at your 
browsing habits and sharing that with advertisers. Better to have a Browser 
free of such stuff for your money.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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