Re: Improving Voice Over in Zoom meetings
Too bad about the suboptimal microphone quality problem. While I like the notion of dual audio devices independently controlled a lot, inferior mic quality is a showstopper. Glad your workaround suffices for you. Best, Janina Robert Carter writes: > Hi Kare, > > The sound quality of the headset is fine. It is an over the ear headset. I > did not find the sound of the built-in microphone to be as good as the > microphones on my 16 inch MacBook Pro. So, I choose to use the MacBook Pro > microphones instead of the headset microphone. It is totally user choice. > > This headset can also be plugged straight into the headphone jack of the > MacBook Pro. Of course when you do this, you loose the advantage of the two > USB sound cards. > > Robert Carter > > > > > On Jul 11, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Karen Lewellen > > wrote: > > > > Oh, Robert, how is the sound quality? > > Janina, if you find other models, please share. > > Kare > > > > > > > > On Sat, 11 Jul 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > > >> I like the notion of dual DACs on a headset device. You've got me > >> shopping! > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Janina > >> > >> Robert Carter writes: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I purchased an Arctic 5 gaming headset. This headset has a USB interface > >>> and has two sound cards built-in. So, there is a volume control on the > >>> cable which allows you to control the volume of the two sound cards > >>> separately. You can set up the sound sources on the Mac so that you have > >>> VoiceOver on one sound card and Zoom on the other. This way, using the > >>> single volume control, you can turn either sound source up or down as > >>> needed. This is not panning as both sound from Zoom and Voice Over come > >>> through both speakers but the ability to grab the volume control and turn > >>> up or down either source instantaneously makes for a much more pleasant > >>> Zoom and VoiceOver experience. > >>> > >>> I learned about this headset from a podcast that David Woodbridge did > >>> about it. > >>> > >>> Robert Carter > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Jul 9, 2020, at 2:35 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hello All: > > Like many of you I spend a lot of time each week in Zoom meetings. > > I find there are many ways by which Zoom notifications read aloud by > Voice Over > enhance the experience. I very much appreciate knowing who just entered > the meeting, and who just left. This is only one example. > > But there's clearly also the problem of Voice Over obscuring what is > being said in the teleconference itself. Unfortunately, both speack at > exactly the same locus of a stereo field, because there's no facility to > pan these sound emmiters to different locations even though most of us > are likely stereo capable in our hardware. > > I believe the situation could be enhanced greatly if we had the ability > to > adjust the pan position of Voice Over speech. If the sound coming > from the meeting were in one location in the stereo field, while Voice > Over > speech were in a different pan location; we would have a greater > possibility to pay > attention to the one and ignore the other. Some of us would likely even > learn to comprehend both just as sighted people often comprehend > unrelated simoultaneous events in their visual field. > > What do you think? Is this something we should request of Apple? I > suspect it would be relatively easy to implement. > > Best, > > Janina > > -- > > Janina Sajka > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To
Re: Improving Voice Over in Zoom meetings
Do you have a link for this headset? > On Jul 12, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Robert Carter wrote: > > Hi Kare, > > The sound quality of the headset is fine. It is an over the ear headset. I > did not find the sound of the built-in microphone to be as good as the > microphones on my 16 inch MacBook Pro. So, I choose to use the MacBook Pro > microphones instead of the headset microphone. It is totally user choice. > > This headset can also be plugged straight into the headphone jack of the > MacBook Pro. Of course when you do this, you loose the advantage of the two > USB sound cards. > > Robert Carter > > > >> On Jul 11, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> Oh, Robert, how is the sound quality? >> Janina, if you find other models, please share. >> Kare >> >> >> >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> >>> I like the notion of dual DACs on a headset device. You've got me >>> shopping! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Robert Carter writes: Hi, I purchased an Arctic 5 gaming headset. This headset has a USB interface and has two sound cards built-in. So, there is a volume control on the cable which allows you to control the volume of the two sound cards separately. You can set up the sound sources on the Mac so that you have VoiceOver on one sound card and Zoom on the other. This way, using the single volume control, you can turn either sound source up or down as needed. This is not panning as both sound from Zoom and Voice Over come through both speakers but the ability to grab the volume control and turn up or down either source instantaneously makes for a much more pleasant Zoom and VoiceOver experience. I learned about this headset from a podcast that David Woodbridge did about it. Robert Carter > On Jul 9, 2020, at 2:35 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hello All: > > Like many of you I spend a lot of time each week in Zoom meetings. > > I find there are many ways by which Zoom notifications read aloud by > Voice Over > enhance the experience. I very much appreciate knowing who just entered > the meeting, and who just left. This is only one example. > > But there's clearly also the problem of Voice Over obscuring what is > being said in the teleconference itself. Unfortunately, both speack at > exactly the same locus of a stereo field, because there's no facility to > pan these sound emmiters to different locations even though most of us > are likely stereo capable in our hardware. > > I believe the situation could be enhanced greatly if we had the ability to > adjust the pan position of Voice Over speech. If the sound coming > from the meeting were in one location in the stereo field, while Voice > Over > speech were in a different pan location; we would have a greater > possibility to pay > attention to the one and ignore the other. Some of us would likely even > learn to comprehend both just as sighted people often comprehend > unrelated simoultaneous events in their visual field. > > What do you think? Is this something we should request of Apple? I > suspect it would be relatively easy to implement. > > Best, > > Janina > > -- > > Janina Sajka > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20200709193543.GE2033%40rednote.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or
Re: Improving Voice Over in Zoom meetings
Hi Kare, The sound quality of the headset is fine. It is an over the ear headset. I did not find the sound of the built-in microphone to be as good as the microphones on my 16 inch MacBook Pro. So, I choose to use the MacBook Pro microphones instead of the headset microphone. It is totally user choice. This headset can also be plugged straight into the headphone jack of the MacBook Pro. Of course when you do this, you loose the advantage of the two USB sound cards. Robert Carter > On Jul 11, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Oh, Robert, how is the sound quality? > Janina, if you find other models, please share. > Kare > > > > On Sat, 11 Jul 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >> I like the notion of dual DACs on a headset device. You've got me >> shopping! >> >> Best, >> >> Janina >> >> Robert Carter writes: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I purchased an Arctic 5 gaming headset. This headset has a USB interface >>> and has two sound cards built-in. So, there is a volume control on the >>> cable which allows you to control the volume of the two sound cards >>> separately. You can set up the sound sources on the Mac so that you have >>> VoiceOver on one sound card and Zoom on the other. This way, using the >>> single volume control, you can turn either sound source up or down as >>> needed. This is not panning as both sound from Zoom and Voice Over come >>> through both speakers but the ability to grab the volume control and turn >>> up or down either source instantaneously makes for a much more pleasant >>> Zoom and VoiceOver experience. >>> >>> I learned about this headset from a podcast that David Woodbridge did about >>> it. >>> >>> Robert Carter >>> >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 2:35 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hello All: Like many of you I spend a lot of time each week in Zoom meetings. I find there are many ways by which Zoom notifications read aloud by Voice Over enhance the experience. I very much appreciate knowing who just entered the meeting, and who just left. This is only one example. But there's clearly also the problem of Voice Over obscuring what is being said in the teleconference itself. Unfortunately, both speack at exactly the same locus of a stereo field, because there's no facility to pan these sound emmiters to different locations even though most of us are likely stereo capable in our hardware. I believe the situation could be enhanced greatly if we had the ability to adjust the pan position of Voice Over speech. If the sound coming from the meeting were in one location in the stereo field, while Voice Over speech were in a different pan location; we would have a greater possibility to pay attention to the one and ignore the other. Some of us would likely even learn to comprehend both just as sighted people often comprehend unrelated simoultaneous events in their visual field. What do you think? Is this something we should request of Apple? I suspect it would be relatively easy to implement. Best, Janina -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20200709193543.GE2033%40rednote.net. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is
Re: Improving Voice Over in Zoom meetings
Oh, Robert, how is the sound quality? Janina, if you find other models, please share. Kare On Sat, 11 Jul 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: I like the notion of dual DACs on a headset device. You've got me shopping! Best, Janina Robert Carter writes: Hi, I purchased an Arctic 5 gaming headset. This headset has a USB interface and has two sound cards built-in. So, there is a volume control on the cable which allows you to control the volume of the two sound cards separately. You can set up the sound sources on the Mac so that you have VoiceOver on one sound card and Zoom on the other. This way, using the single volume control, you can turn either sound source up or down as needed. This is not panning as both sound from Zoom and Voice Over come through both speakers but the ability to grab the volume control and turn up or down either source instantaneously makes for a much more pleasant Zoom and VoiceOver experience. I learned about this headset from a podcast that David Woodbridge did about it. Robert Carter On Jul 9, 2020, at 2:35 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hello All: Like many of you I spend a lot of time each week in Zoom meetings. I find there are many ways by which Zoom notifications read aloud by Voice Over enhance the experience. I very much appreciate knowing who just entered the meeting, and who just left. This is only one example. But there's clearly also the problem of Voice Over obscuring what is being said in the teleconference itself. Unfortunately, both speack at exactly the same locus of a stereo field, because there's no facility to pan these sound emmiters to different locations even though most of us are likely stereo capable in our hardware. I believe the situation could be enhanced greatly if we had the ability to adjust the pan position of Voice Over speech. If the sound coming from the meeting were in one location in the stereo field, while Voice Over speech were in a different pan location; we would have a greater possibility to pay attention to the one and ignore the other. Some of us would likely even learn to comprehend both just as sighted people often comprehend unrelated simoultaneous events in their visual field. What do you think? Is this something we should request of Apple? I suspect it would be relatively easy to implement. Best, Janina -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20200709193543.GE2033%40rednote.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA3BF316-5B6B-47BF-9EAD-44385F688F8A%40gmail.com. -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the runni
Re: Improving Voice Over in Zoom meetings
I like the notion of dual DACs on a headset device. You've got me shopping! Best, Janina Robert Carter writes: > Hi, > > I purchased an Arctic 5 gaming headset. This headset has a USB interface and > has two sound cards built-in. So, there is a volume control on the cable > which allows you to control the volume of the two sound cards separately. You > can set up the sound sources on the Mac so that you have VoiceOver on one > sound card and Zoom on the other. This way, using the single volume control, > you can turn either sound source up or down as needed. This is not panning as > both sound from Zoom and Voice Over come through both speakers but the > ability to grab the volume control and turn up or down either source > instantaneously makes for a much more pleasant Zoom and VoiceOver experience. > > I learned about this headset from a podcast that David Woodbridge did about > it. > > Robert Carter > > > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 2:35 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > wrote: > > > > Hello All: > > > > Like many of you I spend a lot of time each week in Zoom meetings. > > > > I find there are many ways by which Zoom notifications read aloud by Voice > > Over > > enhance the experience. I very much appreciate knowing who just entered > > the meeting, and who just left. This is only one example. > > > > But there's clearly also the problem of Voice Over obscuring what is > > being said in the teleconference itself. Unfortunately, both speack at > > exactly the same locus of a stereo field, because there's no facility to > > pan these sound emmiters to different locations even though most of us > > are likely stereo capable in our hardware. > > > > I believe the situation could be enhanced greatly if we had the ability to > > adjust the pan position of Voice Over speech. If the sound coming > > from the meeting were in one location in the stereo field, while Voice Over > > speech were in a different pan location; we would have a greater > > possibility to pay > > attention to the one and ignore the other. Some of us would likely even > > learn to comprehend both just as sighted people often comprehend > > unrelated simoultaneous events in their visual field. > > > > What do you think? Is this something we should request of Apple? I > > suspect it would be relatively easy to implement. > > > > Best, > > > > Janina > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka > > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > > Visionaries list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20200709193543.GE2033%40rednote.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA3BF316-5B6B-47BF-9EAD-44385F688F8A%40gmail.com. -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Arc
Re: Improving Voice Over in Zoom meetings
Hi, I purchased an Arctic 5 gaming headset. This headset has a USB interface and has two sound cards built-in. So, there is a volume control on the cable which allows you to control the volume of the two sound cards separately. You can set up the sound sources on the Mac so that you have VoiceOver on one sound card and Zoom on the other. This way, using the single volume control, you can turn either sound source up or down as needed. This is not panning as both sound from Zoom and Voice Over come through both speakers but the ability to grab the volume control and turn up or down either source instantaneously makes for a much more pleasant Zoom and VoiceOver experience. I learned about this headset from a podcast that David Woodbridge did about it. Robert Carter > On Jul 9, 2020, at 2:35 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hello All: > > Like many of you I spend a lot of time each week in Zoom meetings. > > I find there are many ways by which Zoom notifications read aloud by Voice > Over > enhance the experience. I very much appreciate knowing who just entered > the meeting, and who just left. This is only one example. > > But there's clearly also the problem of Voice Over obscuring what is > being said in the teleconference itself. Unfortunately, both speack at > exactly the same locus of a stereo field, because there's no facility to > pan these sound emmiters to different locations even though most of us > are likely stereo capable in our hardware. > > I believe the situation could be enhanced greatly if we had the ability to > adjust the pan position of Voice Over speech. If the sound coming > from the meeting were in one location in the stereo field, while Voice Over > speech were in a different pan location; we would have a greater possibility > to pay > attention to the one and ignore the other. Some of us would likely even > learn to comprehend both just as sighted people often comprehend > unrelated simoultaneous events in their visual field. > > What do you think? Is this something we should request of Apple? I > suspect it would be relatively easy to implement. > > Best, > > Janina > > -- > > Janina Sajka > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20200709193543.GE2033%40rednote.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CA3BF316-5B6B-47BF-9EAD-44385F688F8A%40gmail.com.
Re: Improving Voice Over in Zoom meetings
What I'd like to see as a significantly better way to Focus voiceover on Wayne from the List of participants that are leaving, and arriving enter the meeting. The other thing is I'd love to see a way to get captioning working so that it makes sense. This would help the deaf blind tremendously. Hope my two cents was help Sincerely Maurice Mies. > On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:35 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hello All: > > Like many of you I spend a lot of time each week in Zoom meetings. > > I find there are many ways by which Zoom notifications read aloud by Voice > Over > enhance the experience. I very much appreciate knowing who just entered > the meeting, and who just left. This is only one example. > > But there's clearly also the problem of Voice Over obscuring what is > being said in the teleconference itself. Unfortunately, both speack at > exactly the same locus of a stereo field, because there's no facility to > pan these sound emmiters to different locations even though most of us > are likely stereo capable in our hardware. > > I believe the situation could be enhanced greatly if we had the ability to > adjust the pan position of Voice Over speech. If the sound coming > from the meeting were in one location in the stereo field, while Voice Over > speech were in a different pan location; we would have a greater possibility > to pay > attention to the one and ignore the other. Some of us would likely even > learn to comprehend both just as sighted people often comprehend > unrelated simoultaneous events in their visual field. > > What do you think? Is this something we should request of Apple? I > suspect it would be relatively easy to implement. > > Best, > > Janina > > -- > > Janina Sajka > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20200709193543.GE2033%40rednote.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B24B5255-8D1D-4D41-8CC7-54709D55B604%40gmail.com.
Re: Improving Voice Over in Zoom meetings
Hi Janina, I agree 100%! That would be a great feature request. I know nothing about how it would be implemented, but I am pretty good at audio multi-tasking when the sound is coming from different sources, so this makes complete sense to me. Also, it would seem to fit well with Apple's goal of providing broader sound spatiality with the AirPods that was announced at the WDC keynote. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 9, 2020, at 2:35 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hello All: > > Like many of you I spend a lot of time each week in Zoom meetings. > > I find there are many ways by which Zoom notifications read aloud by Voice > Over > enhance the experience. I very much appreciate knowing who just entered > the meeting, and who just left. This is only one example. > > But there's clearly also the problem of Voice Over obscuring what is > being said in the teleconference itself. Unfortunately, both speack at > exactly the same locus of a stereo field, because there's no facility to > pan these sound emmiters to different locations even though most of us > are likely stereo capable in our hardware. > > I believe the situation could be enhanced greatly if we had the ability to > adjust the pan position of Voice Over speech. If the sound coming > from the meeting were in one location in the stereo field, while Voice Over > speech were in a different pan location; we would have a greater possibility > to pay > attention to the one and ignore the other. Some of us would likely even > learn to comprehend both just as sighted people often comprehend > unrelated simoultaneous events in their visual field. > > What do you think? Is this something we should request of Apple? I > suspect it would be relatively easy to implement. > > Best, > > Janina > > -- > > Janina Sajka > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20200709193543.GE2033%40rednote.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B09C65C5-C793-4F00-A1B1-9661BD4ADFE5%40me.com.
Improving Voice Over in Zoom meetings
Hello All: Like many of you I spend a lot of time each week in Zoom meetings. I find there are many ways by which Zoom notifications read aloud by Voice Over enhance the experience. I very much appreciate knowing who just entered the meeting, and who just left. This is only one example. But there's clearly also the problem of Voice Over obscuring what is being said in the teleconference itself. Unfortunately, both speack at exactly the same locus of a stereo field, because there's no facility to pan these sound emmiters to different locations even though most of us are likely stereo capable in our hardware. I believe the situation could be enhanced greatly if we had the ability to adjust the pan position of Voice Over speech. If the sound coming from the meeting were in one location in the stereo field, while Voice Over speech were in a different pan location; we would have a greater possibility to pay attention to the one and ignore the other. Some of us would likely even learn to comprehend both just as sighted people often comprehend unrelated simoultaneous events in their visual field. What do you think? Is this something we should request of Apple? I suspect it would be relatively easy to implement. Best, Janina -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20200709193543.GE2033%40rednote.net.
