Re: multi select list boxes in safari
Funny apple never responded to me at all regarding my issue with I think it was the finder slowinfg down voice over to a crawl but glad you got a responce. all hail apple. On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Just to let everyone know, I got a response from Apple this morning. >> >> They'll pass it on to make them work without workarounds. I don't wanna be >> picky, but I prefer to have the control recognized properly and workable >> without having to disable some of my beloved VoiceOver settings. >> >> That's the sixth response this week starting Monday. Apple's on a roll! >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Good workaround. I still think they should be identified correctly, >>> however, and not to be picky, but it shouldn't be necessary to have to do >>> workarounds. Once they are properly identified, I'm sure it won't be >>> necessary either. Thanks, though. :) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all. >>>> >>>> The multiselectboxes works in the following way: >>>> Turn off the cursor tracking by pressing VO shift f3, and then you can >>>> read the choices without selecting them. If you don't stop cursor >>>> tracking, you'll select each item as you read it. To select an item in the >>>> listbox, you simply press VO command spacebar, and VO will say "selected." >>>> You can then read what items you have selected by moving the Vo cursor up >>>> and down. Don't turn the cursor tracking on until you've pressed the >>>> "continue" or what ever button which will accept your choice in the >>>> listbox. >>>> I only have access to a multiselectlistbox in a mailinglist management >>>> system where you need to log in, so I can't give you a link so you can >>>> check it out. >>>> I really love the way VOiceover work which is the reason for >>>> multiselectlistboxes works out of the box. I've seen many Windows >>>> screenreaders having issues with these... >>>> Best regards >>>> Søren Jensen >>>> Mail & MSN: >>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>>> Website: >>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>>> >>>> Den Apr 11, 2010 kl. 11:32 PM skrev Donal Fitzpatrick: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. >>>>> Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >>>>> >>>>> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in >>>>> which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed >>>>> a non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you >>>>> wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you >>>>> could select the areas you wished to look in. >>>>> >>>>> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it >>>>> used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Dónal >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
> Hi, > > Just to let everyone know, I got a response from Apple this morning. > > They'll pass it on to make them work without workarounds. I don't wanna be > picky, but I prefer to have the control recognized properly and workable > without having to disable some of my beloved VoiceOver settings. > > That's the sixth response this week starting Monday. Apple's on a roll! > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Good workaround. I still think they should be identified correctly, however, >> and not to be picky, but it shouldn't be necessary to have to do >> workarounds. Once they are properly identified, I'm sure it won't be >> necessary either. Thanks, though. :) >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: >> >>> Hi all. >>> >>> The multiselectboxes works in the following way: >>> Turn off the cursor tracking by pressing VO shift f3, and then you can read >>> the choices without selecting them. If you don't stop cursor tracking, >>> you'll select each item as you read it. To select an item in the listbox, >>> you simply press VO command spacebar, and VO will say "selected." You can >>> then read what items you have selected by moving the Vo cursor up and down. >>> Don't turn the cursor tracking on until you've pressed the "continue" or >>> what ever button which will accept your choice in the listbox. >>> I only have access to a multiselectlistbox in a mailinglist management >>> system where you need to log in, so I can't give you a link so you can >>> check it out. >>> I really love the way VOiceover work which is the reason for >>> multiselectlistboxes works out of the box. I've seen many Windows >>> screenreaders having issues with these... >>> Best regards >>> Søren Jensen >>> Mail & MSN: >>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>> Website: >>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>> >>> Den Apr 11, 2010 kl. 11:32 PM skrev Donal Fitzpatrick: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. >>>> Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >>>> >>>> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in >>>> which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed >>>> a non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you >>>> wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you >>>> could select the areas you wished to look in. >>>> >>>> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it >>>> used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Dónal >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
Has someone emailed apple accessibility about this? I would but I have not come across one fo these in years. Take care. On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Good workaround. I still think they should be identified correctly, however, > and not to be picky, but it shouldn't be necessary to have to do workarounds. > Once they are properly identified, I'm sure it won't be necessary either. > Thanks, though. :) > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> The multiselectboxes works in the following way: >> Turn off the cursor tracking by pressing VO shift f3, and then you can read >> the choices without selecting them. If you don't stop cursor tracking, >> you'll select each item as you read it. To select an item in the listbox, >> you simply press VO command spacebar, and VO will say "selected." You can >> then read what items you have selected by moving the Vo cursor up and down. >> Don't turn the cursor tracking on until you've pressed the "continue" or >> what ever button which will accept your choice in the listbox. >> I only have access to a multiselectlistbox in a mailinglist management >> system where you need to log in, so I can't give you a link so you can check >> it out. >> I really love the way VOiceover work which is the reason for >> multiselectlistboxes works out of the box. I've seen many Windows >> screenreaders having issues with these... >> Best regards >> Søren Jensen >> Mail & MSN: >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >> Website: >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >> >> Den Apr 11, 2010 kl. 11:32 PM skrev Donal Fitzpatrick: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. >>> Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >>> >>> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in >>> which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a >>> non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you >>> wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you >>> could select the areas you wished to look in. >>> >>> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it >>> used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Dónal >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
Ah thanks. I'll keep this in mind. On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > Hi all. > > The multiselectboxes works in the following way: > Turn off the cursor tracking by pressing VO shift f3, and then you can read > the choices without selecting them. If you don't stop cursor tracking, you'll > select each item as you read it. To select an item in the listbox, you simply > press VO command spacebar, and VO will say "selected." You can then read what > items you have selected by moving the Vo cursor up and down. Don't turn the > cursor tracking on until you've pressed the "continue" or what ever button > which will accept your choice in the listbox. > I only have access to a multiselectlistbox in a mailinglist management system > where you need to log in, so I can't give you a link so you can check it out. > I really love the way VOiceover work which is the reason for > multiselectlistboxes works out of the box. I've seen many Windows > screenreaders having issues with these... > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > Den Apr 11, 2010 kl. 11:32 PM skrev Donal Fitzpatrick: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is >> there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >> >> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in >> which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a >> non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you >> wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you >> could select the areas you wished to look in. >> >> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it >> used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >> >> Cheers >> >> Dónal >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
How do you select non conditus items though with vo. I only know how to select contigus items. On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > This is very interesting. > > I created my own multi-select listbox, and got some funny results. > > I opened it in Safari, and located it on my page. VoiceOver proceeded to read > all the options in the box without pausing, and did not seem to register it > as a listbox at all, but rather as a text element. I then hit down arrow, and > it would say the item name, then "clickable selected". > > They seem to work, but you don't know when they are listboxes or not. Also, > yes, you can select more than one by using regular selection keys. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi Nick, >> >> I actually came across it when I was using the back-end to a drupal site I'm >> setting up. Basically I'd set up a taxonomy to categorise content, and >> rather than use free-tagging I used a list of 4 elements from which the user >> could select any/all. >> >> I've also seen something like this on a site .myhome.ie but it was a >> while ago so I'm not sure if they're using it at the moment. >> >> Dónal >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen >> Sent: 12 April 2010 07:30 >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: multi select list boxes in safari >> >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to see one of these with VoiceOver. If you have a site containing >> such, please point out where it is so I can take a look. I never encounter >> them. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I've never come across them. how would one interact with them to select >> non contiguous items. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. >> Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >>>> >>>> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in >> which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a >> non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you >> wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you >> could select the areas you wished to look in. >>>> >>>> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it >> used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Dónal >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this m
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
Hi, Good workaround. I still think they should be identified correctly, however, and not to be picky, but it shouldn't be necessary to have to do workarounds. Once they are properly identified, I'm sure it won't be necessary either. Thanks, though. :) Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: > Hi all. > > The multiselectboxes works in the following way: > Turn off the cursor tracking by pressing VO shift f3, and then you can read > the choices without selecting them. If you don't stop cursor tracking, you'll > select each item as you read it. To select an item in the listbox, you simply > press VO command spacebar, and VO will say "selected." You can then read what > items you have selected by moving the Vo cursor up and down. Don't turn the > cursor tracking on until you've pressed the "continue" or what ever button > which will accept your choice in the listbox. > I only have access to a multiselectlistbox in a mailinglist management system > where you need to log in, so I can't give you a link so you can check it out. > I really love the way VOiceover work which is the reason for > multiselectlistboxes works out of the box. I've seen many Windows > screenreaders having issues with these... > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > Den Apr 11, 2010 kl. 11:32 PM skrev Donal Fitzpatrick: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is >> there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >> >> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in >> which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a >> non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you >> wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you >> could select the areas you wished to look in. >> >> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it >> used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >> >> Cheers >> >> Dónal >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
Hi all. The multiselectboxes works in the following way: Turn off the cursor tracking by pressing VO shift f3, and then you can read the choices without selecting them. If you don't stop cursor tracking, you'll select each item as you read it. To select an item in the listbox, you simply press VO command spacebar, and VO will say "selected." You can then read what items you have selected by moving the Vo cursor up and down. Don't turn the cursor tracking on until you've pressed the "continue" or what ever button which will accept your choice in the listbox. I only have access to a multiselectlistbox in a mailinglist management system where you need to log in, so I can't give you a link so you can check it out. I really love the way VOiceover work which is the reason for multiselectlistboxes works out of the box. I've seen many Windows screenreaders having issues with these... Best regards Søren Jensen Mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Apr 11, 2010 kl. 11:32 PM skrev Donal Fitzpatrick: > Hi all, > > I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is > there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? > > For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in > which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a > non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you wished > to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you could > select the areas you wished to look in. > > I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it used > has made me wonder how VO users have found them. > > Cheers > > Dónal > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
Hi, Well, given the way they actually work, I'd imagine it can be. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I haven't encountered one of these lately, and can't think where I > might have before at this point. > > However, could the selection toggle in VO (command-option-control-space) be > helpful at all? > > Teresa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: multi select list boxes in safari
I haven't encountered one of these lately, and can't think where I might have before at this point. However, could the selection toggle in VO (command-option-control-space) be helpful at all? Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: multi select list boxes in safari
Exactly the behaviour I encountered. Thanks for testing it Nick I thought I was doing something daft. It's a very useful UI element to have on a page (sometimes and carefully used ) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: 12 April 2010 14:02 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: multi select list boxes in safari Hi, This is very interesting. I created my own multi-select listbox, and got some funny results. I opened it in Safari, and located it on my page. VoiceOver proceeded to read all the options in the box without pausing, and did not seem to register it as a listbox at all, but rather as a text element. I then hit down arrow, and it would say the item name, then "clickable selected". They seem to work, but you don't know when they are listboxes or not. Also, yes, you can select more than one by using regular selection keys. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Nick, > > I actually came across it when I was using the back-end to a drupal > site I'm setting up. Basically I'd set up a taxonomy to categorise > content, and rather than use free-tagging I used a list of 4 elements > from which the user could select any/all. > > I've also seen something like this on a site .myhome.ie but it > was a while ago so I'm not sure if they're using it at the moment. > > Dónal > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen > Sent: 12 April 2010 07:30 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: multi select list boxes in safari > > Hi, > > I'd like to see one of these with VoiceOver. If you have a site > containing such, please point out where it is so I can take a look. I > never encounter them. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I've never come across them. how would one interact with them to >> select > non contiguous items. >> >> Take care. >> On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. > Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >>> >>> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI >>> element in > which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or > indeed a non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in > which you wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI > elements you could select the areas you wished to look in. >>> >>> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but >>> seeing it > used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Dónal >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to mac
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
Hi, This is very interesting. I created my own multi-select listbox, and got some funny results. I opened it in Safari, and located it on my page. VoiceOver proceeded to read all the options in the box without pausing, and did not seem to register it as a listbox at all, but rather as a text element. I then hit down arrow, and it would say the item name, then "clickable selected". They seem to work, but you don't know when they are listboxes or not. Also, yes, you can select more than one by using regular selection keys. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Nick, > > I actually came across it when I was using the back-end to a drupal site I'm > setting up. Basically I'd set up a taxonomy to categorise content, and > rather than use free-tagging I used a list of 4 elements from which the user > could select any/all. > > I've also seen something like this on a site .myhome.ie but it was a > while ago so I'm not sure if they're using it at the moment. > > Dónal > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen > Sent: 12 April 2010 07:30 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: multi select list boxes in safari > > Hi, > > I'd like to see one of these with VoiceOver. If you have a site containing > such, please point out where it is so I can take a look. I never encounter > them. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I've never come across them. how would one interact with them to select > non contiguous items. >> >> Take care. >> On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. > Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >>> >>> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in > which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a > non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you > wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you > could select the areas you wished to look in. >>> >>> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it > used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Dónal >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: multi select list boxes in safari
Hi Sarah, Exactly the question I am trying to figure out. I know how to do this on Windows, but alas not using VO. Dónal -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 12 April 2010 04:07 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: multi select list boxes in safari I've never come across them. how would one interact with them to select non contiguous items. Take care. On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? > > For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you could select the areas you wished to look in. > > I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. > > Cheers > > Dónal > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: multi select list boxes in safari
Hi Nick, I actually came across it when I was using the back-end to a drupal site I'm setting up. Basically I'd set up a taxonomy to categorise content, and rather than use free-tagging I used a list of 4 elements from which the user could select any/all. I've also seen something like this on a site .myhome.ie but it was a while ago so I'm not sure if they're using it at the moment. Dónal -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: 12 April 2010 07:30 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: multi select list boxes in safari Hi, I'd like to see one of these with VoiceOver. If you have a site containing such, please point out where it is so I can take a look. I never encounter them. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I've never come across them. how would one interact with them to select non contiguous items. > > Take care. > On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >> >> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you could select the areas you wished to look in. >> >> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >> >> Cheers >> >> Dónal >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
Hi, I'd like to see one of these with VoiceOver. If you have a site containing such, please point out where it is so I can take a look. I never encounter them. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I've never come across them. how would one interact with them to select non > contiguous items. > > Take care. > On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is >> there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? >> >> For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in >> which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a >> non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you >> wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you >> could select the areas you wished to look in. >> >> I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it >> used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. >> >> Cheers >> >> Dónal >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multi select list boxes in safari
I've never come across them. how would one interact with them to select non contiguous items. Take care. On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is > there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? > > For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in > which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a > non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you wished > to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you could > select the areas you wished to look in. > > I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it used > has made me wonder how VO users have found them. > > Cheers > > Dónal > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
multi select list boxes in safari
Hi all, I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indeed a non-continuous series. An example might be in a web site in which you wished to look at apartments to rent, using one of these UI elements you could select the areas you wished to look in. I haven't encountered one of these form controls very much but seeing it used has made me wonder how VO users have found them. Cheers Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: List Boxes.
I'm not totally sure, but I had heard that we could use them on web pages, as of Safari 4. On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: > > i all, > > Is there a way to use extended or multi select list boxes with VO? > > Thanks, > > Jesse > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
List Boxes.
i all, Is there a way to use extended or multi select list boxes with VO? Thanks, Jesse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
