MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Andrew Lamanche 
Hi,

Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that neither my 
old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I close the lid.  Once 
the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor menu items.  The only way I 
can put it to sleep if I want to close the lid is to switch of trackpad 
commander.  This makes me think that there’s something wrong here.  If the 
trackpad is on for Voiceover use, when I close the lid, it prevents the mac 
from sleeping.  Any experiences like this from anyone else?

Andrew

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Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Brandon A. Olivares 
My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs the 
laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants to, and it 
still stays sleeping.
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that neither 
> my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I close the lid.  
> Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor menu items.  The only 
> way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the lid is to switch of trackpad 
> commander.  This makes me think that there’s something wrong here.  If the 
> trackpad is on for Voiceover use, when I close the lid, it prevents the mac 
> from sleeping.  Any experiences like this from anyone else?
> 
> Andrew
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Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Scott Granados 
There’s also a checkbox under energy savings and power that controls sleep 
behavior as in what can or can’t wake up the device.  I haven’t noticed this 
problem but I usually click on the sleep option under the apple before closing 
the lid.

> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Brandon A. Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs the 
> laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants to, and 
> it still stays sleeping.
>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that neither 
>> my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I close the lid. 
>>  Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor menu items.  The 
>> only way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the lid is to switch of 
>> trackpad commander.  This makes me think that there’s something wrong here.  
>> If the trackpad is on for Voiceover use, when I close the lid, it prevents 
>> the mac from sleeping.  Any experiences like this from anyone else?
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Kevin Chao 
I've observed this (Apple Watch will unlock Mac, BLuetooth headset will
connect, and Alex will continue talking)and haven't figure out a solution
other than unplugging charger (end up with dead Mac)

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM Scott Granados 
wrote:

> There’s also a checkbox under energy savings and power that controls sleep
> behavior as in what can or can’t wake up the device.  I haven’t noticed
> this problem but I usually click on the sleep option under the apple before
> closing the lid.
>
> > On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Brandon A. Olivares <
> thepianist2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs
> the laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants
> to, and it still stays sleeping.
> >> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that
> neither my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I close
> the lid.  Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor menu
> items.  The only way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the lid is to
> switch of trackpad commander.  This makes me think that there’s something
> wrong here.  If the trackpad is on for Voiceover use, when I close the lid,
> it prevents the mac from sleeping.  Any experiences like this from anyone
> else?
> >>
> >> Andrew
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Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Tim Kilburn 
Hi,

I haven't experienced this exact issue, but have noticed that my MBP takes an 
extra 30 seconds or so to go to sleep.  I close the lid, then can tell that 
stuff is still happening, but it does wind down after about 30 seconds.  For 
those of you with Apple Watches and other devices that continue speaking with 
your Mac, or with machines that are Power Nap capable, you may wish to go under 
the Power Adaptor tab of Energy Saver in System Prefs, and uncheck the box that 
reads "Wake for Network Access".  This may help the issue.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 30, 2016, at 21:22, Kevin Chao  wrote:

I've observed this (Apple Watch will unlock Mac, BLuetooth headset will 
connect, and Alex will continue talking)and haven't figure out a solution other 
than unplugging charger (end up with dead Mac)

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM Scott Granados mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There’s also a checkbox under energy savings and power that controls sleep 
behavior as in what can or can’t wake up the device.  I haven’t noticed this 
problem but I usually click on the sleep option under the apple before closing 
the lid.

> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Brandon A. Olivares  > wrote:
>
> My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs the 
> laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants to, and 
> it still stays sleeping.
>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that neither 
>> my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I close the lid. 
>>  Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor menu items.  The 
>> only way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the lid is to switch of 
>> trackpad commander.  This makes me think that there’s something wrong here.  
>> If the trackpad is on for Voiceover use, when I close the lid, it prevents 
>> the mac from sleeping.  Any experiences like this from anyone else?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Kevin Chao 
I've unchecked/disabled PowerNap and Wake_Wi-Fi. Apple support has never
heard of this issue when I called last week

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:23 PM Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I haven't experienced this exact issue, but have noticed that my MBP takes
> an extra 30 seconds or so to go to sleep.  I close the lid, then can tell
> that stuff is still happening, but it does wind down after about 30
> seconds.  For those of you with Apple Watches and other devices that
> continue speaking with your Mac, or with machines that are Power Nap
> capable, you may wish to go under the Power Adaptor tab of Energy Saver in
> System Prefs, and uncheck the box that reads "Wake for Network Access".
> This may help the issue.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 21:22, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
> I've observed this (Apple Watch will unlock Mac, BLuetooth headset will
> connect, and Alex will continue talking)and haven't figure out a solution
> other than unplugging charger (end up with dead Mac)
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM Scott Granados 
> wrote:
>
> There’s also a checkbox under energy savings and power that controls sleep
> behavior as in what can or can’t wake up the device.  I haven’t noticed
> this problem but I usually click on the sleep option under the apple before
> closing the lid.
>
> > On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Brandon A. Olivares <
> thepianist2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs
> the laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants
> to, and it still stays sleeping.
> >> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that
> neither my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I close
> the lid.  Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor menu
> items.  The only way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the lid is to
> switch of trackpad commander.  This makes me think that there’s something
> wrong here.  If the trackpad is on for Voiceover use, when I close the lid,
> it prevents the mac from sleeping.  Any experiences like this from anyone
> else?
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
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Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-11-01 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
Also go to sharing in system prefs and uncheck the internet sharing checkbox.
That helped me with my mac mini.
/A
> On 31 Oct 2016, at 05:22, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I haven't experienced this exact issue, but have noticed that my MBP takes an 
> extra 30 seconds or so to go to sleep.  I close the lid, then can tell that 
> stuff is still happening, but it does wind down after about 30 seconds.  For 
> those of you with Apple Watches and other devices that continue speaking with 
> your Mac, or with machines that are Power Nap capable, you may wish to go 
> under the Power Adaptor tab of Energy Saver in System Prefs, and uncheck the 
> box that reads "Wake for Network Access".  This may help the issue.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 21:22, Kevin Chao  > wrote:
> 
> I've observed this (Apple Watch will unlock Mac, BLuetooth headset will 
> connect, and Alex will continue talking)and haven't figure out a solution 
> other than unplugging charger (end up with dead Mac)
> 
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM Scott Granados  > wrote:
> There’s also a checkbox under energy savings and power that controls sleep 
> behavior as in what can or can’t wake up the device.  I haven’t noticed this 
> problem but I usually click on the sleep option under the apple before 
> closing the lid.
> 
> > On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Brandon A. Olivares  > > wrote:
> >
> > My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs the 
> > laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants to, 
> > and it still stays sleeping.
> >> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that 
> >> neither my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I 
> >> close the lid.  Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor 
> >> menu items.  The only way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the lid 
> >> is to switch of trackpad commander.  This makes me think that there’s 
> >> something wrong here.  If the trackpad is on for Voiceover use, when I 
> >> close the lid, it prevents the mac from sleeping.  Any experiences like 
> >> this from anyone else?
> >>
> >> Andrew
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Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-11-01 Thread Kevin Chao 
Internet sharing is off, but issue persist

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:37 AM Anders Holmberg 
wrote:

> Hi!
> Also go to sharing in system prefs and uncheck the internet sharing
> checkbox.
> That helped me with my mac mini.
> /A
>
> On 31 Oct 2016, at 05:22, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I haven't experienced this exact issue, but have noticed that my MBP takes
> an extra 30 seconds or so to go to sleep.  I close the lid, then can tell
> that stuff is still happening, but it does wind down after about 30
> seconds.  For those of you with Apple Watches and other devices that
> continue speaking with your Mac, or with machines that are Power Nap
> capable, you may wish to go under the Power Adaptor tab of Energy Saver in
> System Prefs, and uncheck the box that reads "Wake for Network Access".
> This may help the issue.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 21:22, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
> I've observed this (Apple Watch will unlock Mac, BLuetooth headset will
> connect, and Alex will continue talking)and haven't figure out a solution
> other than unplugging charger (end up with dead Mac)
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM Scott Granados 
> wrote:
>
> There’s also a checkbox under energy savings and power that controls sleep
> behavior as in what can or can’t wake up the device.  I haven’t noticed
> this problem but I usually click on the sleep option under the apple before
> closing the lid.
>
> > On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Brandon A. Olivares <
> thepianist2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs
> the laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants
> to, and it still stays sleeping.
> >> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that
> neither my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I close
> the lid.  Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor menu
> items.  The only way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the lid is to
> switch of trackpad commander.  This makes me think that there’s something
> wrong here.  If the trackpad is on for Voiceover use, when I close the lid,
> it prevents the mac from sleeping.  Any experiences like this from anyone
> else?
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
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Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-11-02 Thread Andrew Lamanche 
Same here.  Internet sharing is off, various energy aspects are off too as 
waking the computer for various activities, and yet the issue does still happen.

Worryingly, the Accessibility Team at Apple has responded to my report by 
saying that they cannot reproduce the issue and advised me to speak to the UK 
support team.  I'm just nervous now to close the lid so when going out or last 
thing at night I shut my macbook pro altogether.  This is not what it should be 
like.  At least I'm comforted that it is not only me.  On my late 2010 Macbook 
air, I decided to downgrade to El Capitan.  Lots of work but my macbook air 
performs better now.  With my mid 2014 macbook pro, I have decided to leave 
Sierra hoping that future upgrades can solve the sleep issue.

Andrew
> On 2 Nov 2016, at 03:16, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> Internet sharing is off, but issue persist
> 
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:37 AM Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> Hi!
> Also go to sharing in system prefs and uncheck the internet sharing checkbox.
> That helped me with my mac mini.
> /A
> 
>> On 31 Oct 2016, at 05:22, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I haven't experienced this exact issue, but have noticed that my MBP takes 
>> an extra 30 seconds or so to go to sleep.  I close the lid, then can tell 
>> that stuff is still happening, but it does wind down after about 30 seconds. 
>>  For those of you with Apple Watches and other devices that continue 
>> speaking with your Mac, or with machines that are Power Nap capable, you may 
>> wish to go under the Power Adaptor tab of Energy Saver in System Prefs, and 
>> uncheck the box that reads "Wake for Network Access".  This may help the 
>> issue.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 21:22, Kevin Chao > > wrote:
>> 
>> I've observed this (Apple Watch will unlock Mac, BLuetooth headset will 
>> connect, and Alex will continue talking)and haven't figure out a solution 
>> other than unplugging charger (end up with dead Mac)
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> There’s also a checkbox under energy savings and power that controls sleep 
>> behavior as in what can or can’t wake up the device.  I haven’t noticed this 
>> problem but I usually click on the sleep option under the apple before 
>> closing the lid.
>> 
>> > On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Brandon A. Olivares > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs the 
>> > laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants to, 
>> > and it still stays sleeping.
>> >> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that 
>> >> neither my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I 
>> >> close the lid.  Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor 
>> >> menu items.  The only way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the 
>> >> lid is to switch of trackpad commander.  This makes me think that there’s 
>> >> something wrong here.  If the trackpad is on for Voiceover use, when I 
>> >> close the lid, it prevents the mac from sleeping.  Any experiences like 
>> >> this from anyone else?
>> >>
>> >> Andrew
>> >>
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Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-11-02 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
Can it be that the pram needs to be reset or the smc?
Not sure but it may worth looking in to.
/A
> On 2 Nov 2016, at 09:20, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Same here.  Internet sharing is off, various energy aspects are off too as 
> waking the computer for various activities, and yet the issue does still 
> happen.
> 
> Worryingly, the Accessibility Team at Apple has responded to my report by 
> saying that they cannot reproduce the issue and advised me to speak to the UK 
> support team.  I'm just nervous now to close the lid so when going out or 
> last thing at night I shut my macbook pro altogether.  This is not what it 
> should be like.  At least I'm comforted that it is not only me.  On my late 
> 2010 Macbook air, I decided to downgrade to El Capitan.  Lots of work but my 
> macbook air performs better now.  With my mid 2014 macbook pro, I have 
> decided to leave Sierra hoping that future upgrades can solve the sleep issue.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 03:16, Kevin Chao > > wrote:
>> 
>> Internet sharing is off, but issue persist
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:37 AM Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Also go to sharing in system prefs and uncheck the internet sharing checkbox.
>> That helped me with my mac mini.
>> /A
>> 
>>> On 31 Oct 2016, at 05:22, Tim Kilburn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I haven't experienced this exact issue, but have noticed that my MBP takes 
>>> an extra 30 seconds or so to go to sleep.  I close the lid, then can tell 
>>> that stuff is still happening, but it does wind down after about 30 
>>> seconds.  For those of you with Apple Watches and other devices that 
>>> continue speaking with your Mac, or with machines that are Power Nap 
>>> capable, you may wish to go under the Power Adaptor tab of Energy Saver in 
>>> System Prefs, and uncheck the box that reads "Wake for Network Access".  
>>> This may help the issue.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 21:22, Kevin Chao >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've observed this (Apple Watch will unlock Mac, BLuetooth headset will 
>>> connect, and Alex will continue talking)and haven't figure out a solution 
>>> other than unplugging charger (end up with dead Mac)
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> There’s also a checkbox under energy savings and power that controls sleep 
>>> behavior as in what can or can’t wake up the device.  I haven’t noticed 
>>> this problem but I usually click on the sleep option under the apple before 
>>> closing the lid.
>>> 
>>> > On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>>> > mailto:thepianist2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs the 
>>> > laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants to, 
>>> > and it still stays sleeping.
>>> >> On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche >> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that 
>>> >> neither my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I 
>>> >> close the lid.  Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor 
>>> >> menu items.  The only way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the 
>>> >> lid is to switch of trackpad commander.  This makes me think that 
>>> >> there’s something wrong here.  If the trackpad is on for Voiceover use, 
>>> >> when I close the lid, it prevents the mac from sleeping.  Any 
>>> >> experiences like this from anyone else?
>>> >>
>>> >> Andrew
>>> >>
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>>> >> Visionaries list.
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>>> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>> >> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>> >>  and your owner is 
>>> >> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>>> >> 
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